741. K+L Catch Up: Navigating Marriage Post-Baby, Dating Billionaires + Preparing for Book Launch
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Welcome to the Almost 30 Podcast. I'm Lindsay. And I'm Krista. And we're your hosts, guides, and friends on this path. Almost 30 is not about your age. It's about the feeling. All of us are almost something, seeking community and resources to support the rumblings of transformation within us. Our conversations are deep dives, shepherded by our insatiable curiosity and desire for connection, enduring inspiration, and a sense of levity that we can all benefit from.

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Hello and welcome to Almost 30 Podcast. How are you guys? My name is Krista. This is my best friend, Lindsay. We're coming to you live from New York right now. New York City, baby. We're downtown in a new studio. So happy to be here. Thanks for just being with us. Maybe a lot of you have been with us since the beginning. So you remember our like little kikis early on on our closet floors talking about all the things. Really, can we just kick off this recording week with a little

I just wanted… I saved a lot. Yeah. She saves everything, which I love. I save everything. I save as much as I can. Yeah. So we just wanted to catch up today. It's like…

January 2025, we are starting the new year and it's been another year together. It's been another year of almost 30. It's been another year of change. I feel like there's been so much that's happened in your life, so much that's happened in mine. And it's been so crazy to look over the years with almost 30 because we've been doing this since 2016. Like how different we are and how much has happened and even how much our community has grown. Like there's just so much happening. So this is our little 2025 catch up with your girls. Yeah.

I was just telling her, I'm in New York. I forgot to book my room at the Soho, at Soho House, at the Soho. Kill me. You're like, that's why she forgot. She booked it at the Soho instead of the Soho House. Yeah, I was like, get her out. Like, call the cops. I literally got dropped off and I knew in that moment that I forgot to book my room. I was like, I forgot to book my room.

It's all good. I walked in and I was like, okay, guys, I forgot to book my room. Let's figure it out. And when you're in a good mood, everyone's going to help you. And everyone's in a good mood. So I got the biggest room in the whole place. Heck yeah. At a discount. Amazing. I know. They were like, actually, the only room we have is this big one. I'm like, that's fine. They're like, let's see what we can do with our manager to see if we can like hook it up. I'm like, great. Perfect. It was perfect. It's the most haunted weird room, but it all worked out. But on Tuesday night when I'm here, I need to figure out another place because

All every place in New York is like $2,000 a night on Tuesday. I don't know what it is. The public hotel was $4,500. What? Wait, Tuesday. Okay. Tuesday, the what? The 10th. 10th? I have no idea what that is. Is it the tree lighting? Like what's up? It has to be something. Like there's literally something going on in the city where every, also too, this room hotels now being at least $1,000 a night for like, is so wild. I know.

Remember when it used to be like $159? Oh, remember Motel 8 was like $88? I mean, I don't because I never stayed there. That was Ohio, baby. What do you mean? Those are my roots. Motel 8. Like we used to like get a room in like party in Ohio. Or like Red Roof, where we're from. Red Roof Inn. Yeah, it used to be $300 was like a splurge. Totally. I remember that. It was between $100 and $300. And now hotels are like $1,200. I wonder what that is. Dude.

Yeah. I think probably taking advantage of people who just like need to get out. And inflation, like for sure. I think it's now normalized to pay that much. I don't know, but it's. So you have to go somewhere else Tuesday night. Yeah, Tuesday. I have to figure out where I'm going. They're like one catch. No, they said they're like one catch, only two nights. And I was like, okay. And I've looked at other places. I might just have to stay in like a dump. That's so crazy. I know. It's so crazy, but it feels good to be back. Sometimes when I'm back in New York, I'm

I don't love it, but today it's warm. It's like feeling, it's feeling good to be back. Yeah. It was actually perfect. I mean, it was free. That's why I was like, bring layers. Yes. We can't do a walk at 5 PM. It's going to be too cold. Like it's, yeah, it's been, it's been freezing. I was wearing shorts yesterday. Oh really? I went to the Soho. That's a little extreme. I know it's a little short. I went to the Soho in Greenwich where that guy that I dated was, and I was just like, wow, I can't believe this has been a year.

Oh my God. It's been a whole year? It's been a whole year. And I was like, and then Soho Greenwich and just like, wow, you used to work out here. So weird. Soho or Equinox? Sorry, Equinox Greenwich. Yeah. Sorry, Equinox Greenwich, which is a dump. Wait, I'm like actually tripping on the timing. That's kind of crazy. How do you feel about time this year? Because I kind of feel... Yeah, tell me how you feel about time. That's a great question. I want to hear how you feel about time too. I think I was sitting at the bar last night eating dinner

And I was just like, this is my whole struggle right now is I'm either doing this incredibly or I'm fucking it all up. Yeah. And I mean that like I'm having so much fun. I'm enjoying my life so much. I couldn't be happier.

happier with dating or whatever I'm doing. And I could be literally fucking myself because I'm not taking family seriously or wifehood seriously. And it's like, is there a point where I've taken it too far and now I'm screwing myself? I know what you mean. You know, it's like, especially with kids, I was telling you before. So I got my eggs tested. I've never had my eggs frozen.

It's not been something I've ever wanted. I don't think anyone wants it, but it's been something I've just not, I kind of didn't even recognize it as something that would happen. And so I went to the gyno for the first time since 2021 when I was married. And I walked in and she's like, hey, how's your husband? I was like,

Not around. Sister. Yeah. I was like, let me tell you. Check my chart. I just like open up my legs. I'm like, where do you think my husband is? Can you get anything in there? Honestly, I was like, you tell me what's going on in there if there's a husband. Cobwebs. And I was like, oh, you know, since I last saw you, we were not together. She's like, oh, okay. She's like, how old are you? I'm like, X years. And she's like, okay, you want to be a mom? And I'm like, yeah, I want to be a mom.

And she's like, you need to get your eggs frozen. And I was like, I don't like, I was like, okay. Like, I think there is a way that a lot of people approach it. What's fear mongering. I do think she's just being straight where she's like, you need to get your eggs frozen at this point. And it's also one of those doctor things where like, yeah.

She's covering her ass a little bit in a way. So true. You know, because you could say, like, why didn't you tell me to blah, blah, blah. So true. I agree. It was fine. It was pretty neutral. She did seem disappointed that I was divorced. Maybe I was projecting. I don't know. Like, it was weird the way she was looking at me. It was very weird. She was like, oh, are you, like, sexually active? You know, they ask you that, and then you're like, whatever. So...

I got my eggs tested, though, and she sent me my results yesterday. She's like, your result was whatever. And she's like, which is really good and reassuring, period. And that's all she said. I was like, reassuring to who? You or me? Dude. I was like, what's up with you, lady? Yeah. Like... She's like, don't say I didn't tell you. She's like, don't say I didn't tell you. Wow. I know. I know. I was like... No, I think, you know, I... Listen, we never know, right? Yes. We never know. Yes. And...

Like my thing is the egg thing is just insurance. Yeah, I agree. Like I would feel pretty confident myself or you that like it would happen naturally. Yeah. But again, it's just like insurance. Yes. Like I, I would think, and I don't know the stat that most people don't use them. That's the, my whole thing with it is that it's not guaranteed that it works. Um,

If it was guaranteed, I'd be like, cool. But I think for me, where I came to is that the risk is too great. Like the end goal of having children is too important to me to not do insurance with it. Sure. You know, like I trust myself and my body and I feel really healthy. But it's like you probably should do whatever you can. So I'm going to do it sometime next year after book launch. Yeah. Yeah.

Because it's a thing. It's like, what's how many weeks? That's the whole thing. It's like a whole process. Then you get a surgery. Then you're like. It happens in a very short period of time, like the intensity of it. Because I went through the whole, I didn't myself, but I watched the whole process way back in the day. With spring fertility. With Dr. Bob. Yes. Oh, and spring fertility, we like talked about it. But Dr. Bob, I literally went behind the scenes at every point in the process with him.

Were you going to then? No. Okay. No, it was for the pod. Okay, I know that. But it's so weird because I just... The reason why I ask is because...

I could imagine you were at that single period. You know what I mean? You were in such a single identity that I could imagine you being like, should I? Oh, yeah. I honestly didn't even think I thought about it then. Because we were young. Yeah. Like, we're still young. We're very young. We're still very young. Yeah. But it was right when we started the pod. Probably the first two years, I think. So I wasn't even thinking about it. I think he said, you know, when you get to this age, let's talk.

whatever. And I was like, okay. That's what my plastic surgeon said about me wanting to get my eyes done. Dude. Talk to my Nana. She's gotten it three times. He's like, dude, wait till you're this age and then we'll talk. And I'm like, okay. Thank you. Who did I just saw got it done and showed it on Instagram? I'm not doing it. It was just a joke. Yeah. Eyes are an interesting thing though. I don't even think it counts as plastic surgery. You know who I think got it done? Alex Cooper.

Oh, interesting. Yeah. I think she got an upper and lower bleph and a brow lift. I think it looks amazing. That's my thought. Interesting. Cool. Could be true or not. Yeah. The human body is amazing.

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watching a child grow, go so fast, but it's like, what is that like? I mean, I was just watching a friend of mine sent me like a video about being a boy mom. Dude, two seconds in, I'm like, I'm just tearing up because I think in those early days,

Of it being just so precious yet so intense. Like you're trying to be as present as possible, but you're so in it that like all of a sudden you kind of like come up out of the fog and they're a little person. He's walking. He's smiling with like a full mouth of teeth. And you're like, oh my God. Like if this is how much he's grown in literally less than a year, like...

This is just going to be a crazy wild ride. I think what's been challenging for me is just like noticing like where my work is. And I know we always have that inclination to like better ourselves and like do the work and whatever. But I'm like, as a mom, you know, like looking at where I feel guilty when I'm not with him yet, what makes me feel really good is

is doing things for myself or working and then going back to him and just kind of noticing, is that taking me away during times when I really want, like I should be seeing him do certain things or like watching him grow. It's just like, it's that constant, will I regret this? Um, am I doing enough? Um, but then also like at the same time, a reminder of like, you know,

I'm a really great mom and I'm doing my best. So it's so many things at once that sometimes I get a little, yeah, just overwhelmed with all the thoughts because life is so fucking amazing and beautiful and I'm so blessed.

And like, I've never been more tired. You know, I don't know what the next quote next thing is or should be. I am anticipating an incredible fun next year with our book. And also I'm stressed because I'm like, I have a kid. How do we balance? How do I be away from him? You know, like it's kind of that. And so I just want to catch myself and be like,

my therapist and I talked about this just on another topic, but it applies. And that is what you're saying is actually telling the universe, God, your life, that you don't trust it. You don't trust that you'll be supported. You don't trust that you'll be taken care of. You don't trust that it'll work out. Basically, I was trying to control certain things. And so, yeah, I'm just wanting to like,

be mindful when that's like at the forefront of things that I do or I'm trying to control or I'm trying to overanalyze how I'm doing things with him or not doing things with him. So weird. I don't see you controlling at all. It's funny. Maybe because I'm more. Yeah, maybe. Maybe because I'm so controlling that you can't be, but I don't see you as controlling at all. But I think that's the thing about

like personal control. It's like, it's so sneaky. Yeah. You know, like I don't, I don't want to control you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like, um, like if we're talking about like, if I want to get pregnant, we were talking about, that's what I was talking about with my therapist. And she's like, oh, so you want to wait until after all the book stuff and whatever. And I was like, yeah, cause I would be like totally stressed. She's like, okay.

Dude, I fucking hate when therapists do that. Shut up. But she was just like… No, she's amazing. When your therapist goes… Okay. I know. She made a face and she's like… Dude, she's like… I can't. But what does that say? You know, what if it were to happen before then? Like… Yeah, of course. She's like… It just feels like a lower vibrational… Yeah. Intention. Totally. Rather than… I trust my life. Yeah. I trust that no matter what, it'll be like…

the best thing for me as a person, best thing, you know, externally, whatever. Yeah. So it was just really, yeah, it was really interesting. I think too, there's like with God, you know, it's like we can have preferences and I can even, I'll sometimes even say this, like God, my preferences for this man to text me and we go on a date. But hey, you, if you, if something's, you do you, if something I don't know about you're going to do, like just make it happen. But yeah, I mean, I totally, totally agree. I'm just laughing because it's,

I sometimes say therapists will do that. And I'm like, I know what you're thinking. And I don't want to go there. Yeah. You know what I mean? I know what you're thinking. I get that. But I want to like stay here or whatever. My humans like, no, this is this is like the schedule I want to go by. Yes. No, I get it. Like this is but this is what I want. And then you like kind of fight for your limitation.

You know, you fight for it. You're like, no, it's not going to be, you know, kind of double down on, on that being possible. But yeah, that'll be really beautiful. Life is more fun when, you know, if I look back on things that I've like let go of control over, it does become a little bit more fun. What have you let go of control over? Trying to think of what I have. I think mine's my body, dude. Oh yeah. Just letting go of control of my body and letting my body be.

Yeah. And then everything else kind of falls into place, whether it's internally, externally, like just everything. Yeah. Yeah. So many things. I feel like when I was dating, you know, because I was like really wanting whoever was going to come into my life to be a certain way, look a certain way, like just kind of fit into my life a certain way.

- That's a good one. - Control on like my career early on before the pod and just then like allowing it to like evolve and not be the like one thing that I always wanted to be. - Yeah, it's like, this is the, it's almost like this, this is the human expression acting.

But actually there's a whole energetic of what is powerful about that for you or what works that for you. But in our minds, we're like, this feeling of acting can only be expressed as an actor, but it actually can be done in so many different ways. And ways that are much more fulfilling. Much more. But what's so funny, and maybe I'll, I don't even know, once more things come out in Hollywood, but like- I've been talking about that since 2020. How crazy that like,

I, I never felt, I never felt in it. I never felt a part of it. I never felt chosen by it. It's kind of like in college when no one offered me Coke. Do you know what I mean? No one offered me Coke in college though. I don't know people that did Coke in college. Everyone did Coke in my college. People had money. You know what I mean? My sister, I remember in high school, my sister, people told my sister that I was doing Coke.

That's cool. That's sick. That's like the cool thing. I was like, well, yeah. But like with Hollywood, like, I mean, I'm so glad. And there was probably something like about like my soul knew we ain't. Mm-hmm.

We're good on that. Yeah. Because this is all inauthentic and fake. It's also changing. It's also like a dying industry. Completely. Like it's, you know… And bless all the actresses and actors out there who are so fucking talented and do this for the love of the craft. Yeah. Because there's so many out there that don't get the recognition they deserve. But yeah. I hope it, you know, kind of has a renaissance eventually. Yeah. I think when I think about this year too…

It's like there was a lot of... It was like changes. And a lot of things that happened in my life happened really easily. Like there was a lot of really beautiful things that have just...

sort of worked out or sort of happened naturally. Like it's been a year of less effort. Yes. I've worked harder. I've worked more hours. I've worked a lot more than I have in a really long time. I think the year after the divorce, I was kind of like off the grid. Yeah. I don't know if I was working that much. So it's been working more, but everything's sort of happened with much more ease and much more flow. What's an example?

Just with work. Like, even like coaching. Like, you know what I mean? I just love… Like when you put that out, it was like… Yeah. I was just like, this is what I want to do. Well, I had to get through my shadow around it. You know, I had so much judgment about it. I was like, coaches are fake. Like, you know, I don't know. I just was… What was my thought? I thought that coaches were scam artists. I thought that they…

I think in this space, though, there's a lot that actually don't have the emotional maturity or depth or processing or regulation to be a coach. I think that for me…

coaching is so much more spiritual and energetic than maybe another coach who's more focused on outcome. And so my style is just different. So I had to kind of like remove myself from my own judgments about what other people are doing and just focus on like, who am I? How am I here to serve? What am I here to do? And it's been nice actually to go from the podcast being super wide with people to go in

Like I actually really love going deep one-on-one. Most people start one-on-one and then get kind of bigger and then, but I kind of went the other way and actually really enjoy that because there's just like such a presence. Like you never know what's going to happen. You never know what's going to come up. You from the outside can see people clearly in their fear or their protection or their judgment or like their, their thing. And then to lovingly guide people back to,

to themselves or the truth is like such a pleasure and to have access to people's psyche and parts in that way is just so good. So that just has been such a gift for me and in, in my life and happening really easily. And now working with so many women that I literally am obsessed with. Like I just, I feel like, especially with the, the, the type of coaching that you do,

Because there's not that, and people can have goals and I'm sure you're bringing them to those, but like because it is that like felt sense of support, you're actually only going to get the people that are like very aligned to like what you provide and be able to connect to them in a really true authentic way. Because I can imagine that in the coaching world, that's like six figures after six weeks, it's actually...

you, 50% of the time you might not really jive with the person because there's a lot of like static in between of like, why do you want this? You're getting to kind of the root of everything. Yeah. I'm like, you know, my girls have changed their lives and they love themselves more. That's like my goal is like them being like, I found myself, like I found the home within is like, and to give people that and to have people experience that is like,

the best thing in the world. And so that's just been a pleasure. And then the retreats has been so much fun. Like it's just, it's stretches me and it allows me to be in and same with coaching my healer self, you know, which I've talked about, but I think that's just the ease of that has shown me how, when things are right, they are easy. And it's kind of annoying to me because I'm like, okay, I have to bulldoze everything, but it does happen. Yeah.

when things are easy and right. And I think that has been such a gift this year is really seeing that unfold for me in a way that I resisted for so long and I doubted for so long. And now I'm like, okay, I surrender. Like if it's meant to be, it'll be in, like, I'm going to show up, you know, as myself. Why do you think it was the perfect time for it to kind of blossom? I think to blossom, I think, um, because of everything that I went through with the divorce, um,

And, you know, with the divorce came me finding myself in a way that I didn't have before. I don't think I would have been equipped to have my center and my core and to be a nonjudgmental mirror and to have the experience of divorce, had the experience of codependency, had the experience of being in narcissistic relationships.

have the experience and awareness of all these things that I can now pull on with people where I'm like, oh, I've been in relationship that's this or I've done this. And even dating now, like dating now too, I'm able to like bring my learnings to people in things. So it's like just the experience, you know, I think that's the thing with coaching is you can be a great coach at a young age. It's not always about your experience, but like you having like actual data and embodiment of the things that you're teaching or talking about is like so much better.

more important, you know? Yes. But I think for the hard parts of the year, for me, I think I've pushed myself a little too much. Like, I think there have been many points where I've been people-pleasing so much that I'm running around the town, doing all the things, being so social, you know, just like burning myself out because I'm such a people-pleaser undercover that I can't find a space to like actually say no.

You know, the other day I was like in my car and I'm like, oh my God, I think freedom is my value. And I think freedom is the most important thing to me, but I'm actually doing, I'm actually going to all these places this weekend because I don't want people to be mad at me or I don't want people to like, let me down or I want them to think I'm a good friend. And I'm actually not living a life of freedom because I'm completely disregarding my own desire for rest for other people. And I just didn't see it. And I think that is something I'm really learning on learning about. Um,

And really wanting to focus on. And then my dad stuff, you know, my dad being so sick has been so hard and so fascinating. You know, there's like a fascination I have about it. Just being in grief and in the process. And so that's been like the, you know, the thorn. Yeah. If the other was the rose. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To have like that.

Yeah, I feel like the last couple years have just been like this beautiful contrast for you where it's just like… Yeah. As like beautiful and full and high things can be. But also, do you feel like you've allowed yourself to really feel both? No. No. I don't think I've allowed myself to feel my dad's stuff. Yeah. It'll come and I'll make space. Yeah. But it's weird, man. I don't even know how to describe it. Like… Totally. It's weird. It's like…

Because my, you know, the soul knows this isn't the end. The soul knows this is fine. The soul knows all this stuff. And then the human is like, okay, my dad. And then it becomes normal. Like I think his illness is normal now for me where I kind of don't expect him to be present or he can't, he doesn't really know what's going on. So that's now my normal. So the normalization makes it easier. But, and for people listening, my dad has Parkinson's and Alzheimer's.

Alzheimer's came later. Parkinson's came before. And the normal, yeah, the normal makes it just like, okay, it's happening. So I don't think I've been the best about processing it, but also I'm not going to like poke around

And be like, hey. I also think the soul knows when it's time to process. I agree. I do have a fear, though. Now that I feel so good, there's a huge fear that I have. There is a part of me that's like, I can't let this go back. Or I have a fear of going back to how I felt before or who I was before. And so it's funny. When you become that version of you that you want, it's like then you grip it. And I'm gripping it so hard. I'm like, okay, what is like...

I don't want this to go away. I don't want this feeling to go away. I don't want this freedom to go away. I don't want this sense that I have in myself to go away. And it could be something that like gets me in trouble down the line. Not in a bad way, just as like, hey, you're not allowing for the next version, whatever that is. Sure. It's also, it's like to allow like your experience of your life to be

so dynamic. So like to be able to feel the grief and the depth and like also it is a hard balance like at the end of the day. Like it almost feels like you're two people. That gets exhausting. You know, and then to your point, just being afraid of like, what if I don't come out of that for a while? Like I can't afford to do that. I can't afford to do that. I'm in a season where I'm

Just, yeah, like... And it's almost like your identity now. I'm like, oh, I'm the glow-up girl. Everyone thinks I'm thriving. And then I'm like, fuck, what if I don't? I also think too, and, you know, this might be true, might not be true, but like when you're with your person soon, it's like to be able to like...

feel all of that. Oh, I can't wait. And just being like witnessed and held for that. I'm going to cry because it's so true. You're going to be like seen for like all of that and just really held, you know? I mean, you deserve that. You've always deserved that. But I think that's the gift of like being in a relationship. Like you can just be a fucking mess and like come up, you know? Love you. It's coming. That's how I know it's coming. It's like very close.

That's what I've said for a year. God's like, time doesn't work like that. You guys, literally, me and Victoria were crying laughing because over a year ago, we did a podcast and we're like, we are spiritually claimed right now. Our man is right around the corner. Here I am, a year later, dating this billionaire from a different country, just like doing whatever. No man in sight.

As my husband. It's so fucking funny. Can we talk about that? Do you want to talk about that? Dude. Let's talk about. Dude. Okay, you guys. This is just a little tea. Side tea. And then we're going to go to Lindsay. So the dating this year. Let's talk about the dating. Get comfortable. Has been. What's been your approach? My approach is. Let me just say this first of all. Then I'm going to say my approach. I have not dated one man that's my type. This entire time. That's great.

I like that. I need to make that clear. I have a type. And not one of these men have been my type. And it just is... I'm so proud of myself. I'm so...

I've even all my friends know they're like, you are really going for it. You're really not, which is embarrassing and true. Like I was laughing the other day too with Jenna. It's like, you could not get me to spend more than four minutes with a woman that I don't like. But if a man wants to ask me on a date, when and where? Totally. When and where? I'll go. I'll go. I'm available. So my approach has been,

Intention to have interesting experiences and like have just stories for my life book. Yeah. For the plot, as they say. Meet interesting people. Learn. Experience different parts of myself. Have fun. It's been very maiden energy, I would say. I actually realized the other day. I was like, oh, who was I with? I was with someone. I don't know. But I was actually like, I think the men I'm attracting are not…

I'm very much approaching men like Maiden where I'm like very... And Maiden is like an archetype. So it's like Maiden mother crone. And so Maiden is the young, like people pleaser, you know, just play play, has fun, sexy, vivacious, but like not someone that's in like full wife energy. And I think the reason why I've been in the play cinema because I'm in very play Maiden energy because I was in wife mom energy for so long. So that's been my approach. And I think it's been...

Very fascinating to see how I actually am like avoidant. And I never, I don't know if I was before, but I'm really like, I don't know, man, when they get too close, I'm like, oh no. Like I just find myself doing the things that maybe I would have been hurt by in the past. And I find myself being the one that's scared of intimacy. And I find myself being like,

I'm just, yeah, I'm pretty avoidant. Like I have not, they're always in different countries. They're always like other places. Like when something is close to real, I'm like, I'm good. Do you, is it, like, has anyone been like,

someone you thought like, oh wow, like I could see myself with this person and you've also still been avoidant with them? No, I think New York guy, not him as like a person is not, but like our energy together was yes. Like that was like the closest.

Um, and I was, no, I was, I wasn't, I was, I didn't want a relationship, but I wanted to continue what we were doing. Yeah. And so I think that, but any men that have been like, this is what I, you know what my thing too is though. I have a hard time with men because they're like, this is what I want. I want this. And they're like, what do you want? And I'm afraid that when I say what I want, they're just going to say it back. And that's happens to me all the time. I'll be like, I want this.

You know, with billionaire, I'm like, I want to live in the Palisades. He's like, okay, what's your budget for a house? I'll buy a house there. And I'm like, in my head, thinking a budget. And he says, four times the budget. And I'm like, yeah, that could work. I'm like, I'm— For my house or your house? Yeah, literally. I'm like, I get the house and you come sometimes. And then, or like, they'll just say things. I don't know. I'm afraid men are always saying things I want to hear or something. Well, I also think in that echelon, they can say whatever. Oh, yeah.

you know, to draw you in. And I do believe them because like it's nothing to them. Literally. That's what's been so crazy about this billionaire is that like, if he's love bombing me, it's different when you're being love bombed by someone who's broke. Yeah. Because it's actually a little more dangerous. No.

No, for real. I'm being loved, mom, for real. So he's like, with a broke dude, he's like, yo, girl, I'm going to get you this and I'll get you that and we're going to have a family and we're going to have a farm and we're going to do all these things and it could sell you the picture. Homeboy cannot do it. But billionaire can do it. Billionaire's like, you want that house?

You want care around the clock. Yeah. You want a chef at the house. You want this type of car. You want to take your friend, 10 of your friends on a trip. Take 10 of your friends on a trip. You want to always have the best seat in the house at this restaurant. Let me give the manager 10 G's. You always get the… It is like… Yeah. It's a different… It's just so like… It's been so… I'm so grateful for it because it's been so expansive for me and just seeing like…

The way that he moves is different than like any man I've ever met. Like we were at this restaurant on Tuesday and we got there and he was there before me. And then he was talking to the person at the front, the hostess. And they were like, oh, okay, Mr. X, like your table's going to be ready in like 10 minutes. And I was like, oh, that's weird. Like I thought you had a reservation. I'm surprised our table's not ready.

All that push comes to shove. He basically gave her $500 to get the best seat in the house. And so we got the best seat in the house at the restaurant. Like it's in a corner, it's in a booth. Like

And it's funny because a man like that would never be caught dead sitting at a table in the middle of the restaurant. It's almost like Godfather vibes where King Energy has to be in the corner. King Energy has to seat private. Back behind them or the wall behind them. Wall behind them. Can see everything. Very comfortable. Very cozy. Best experience. And you just don't think like that. I don't think like that. You know? It's like…

just making the world go any way that you want around you. Like you do whatever you want. Like it's just so crazy. But anyways, so yeah, this man is, I'm either being pursued or loved bombed and I'm not sure, but I'm sort of consciously enjoying the love bomb. Yeah, totally. I don't know. Like, I mean, I don't, I don't know him and I don't, you know, I haven't like witnessed it, but like,

I don't know if it's like love bomb flavor or if it's just like... That's the thing. He's also older, so he knows what he wants. Yeah. It's just like, it's like clear. It's direct. He's rich. It's like, it just feels like that's how he would move about like wanting to pursue someone. Yeah. And I guess my question only because this is the only reason why I have a friend who is...

kind of an acquaintance who is now married to someone who is also incredibly wealthy. And for her, from what I've observed and heard from people, so this is hearsay, but it's come at a cost. Oh, 100%. So there's a...

There's almost like a contractual without there being a true contract as to what she's able to do, what she's... This is extreme. A lot to wear, where she goes, what she can do for work, she can't do for work. You know, like just what's expected of her. And like some people don't care. Some people that's perfect. And like I'm not really judging it. I probably have an opinion about it. But like that's what I wonder. It's no 100% a trade-off. I would be...

I need to be available. Yeah. At any time. Yeah. We're going to Italy Friday. You need to be available. Yeah. Like, it's like, you need to be available. And then there's also like, it's funny because being out with him, I thought I'd be really uncomfortable going out with an older man. Yeah. Cause I'm like, Oh, who's going to see me. Yeah. But it's funny because when I go out, like when we're out, I'm like, Oh, people know what it is.

You know what I mean? I like kind of laugh about it. I'm like younger, hot blonde with older men. Y'all know what's up. Yeah, totally. Y'all know what the exchange is. You know what I'm doing here. You know what he's doing here. Like, you know what's up. And so I actually kind of like that, but I don't think I'm,

I don't... It's not probably going to work because... For a lot of reasons. But I don't... I'm not willing to give up my life for that. Like, I love my life too much. And I think that there's a woman that's perfect that is, like, excited to plug her life into his completely. And then there's also, like... Yeah, there's some... Someone... Money is great. And also...

I don't know if you get that much money being good all the time. Yeah, 100%. I think there's some things… 100 million percent. Yeah. And I've… You know, in conversation that we've had, there's some business things that are like… It's kind of like mafia vibes. For sure. At that level. Yeah. So just hearing that, I'm like, okay. I don't know. I'm like… Totally. I don't know. I'm just like… Also, you're…

If not, it's like someone like that has access to or is associated with potentially that type of energy. Because it's access. Like money gets you access to anything you want. Anything you want. It doesn't matter. Like he takes PJ or takes commercial. He was late for the commercial flight. You can call LAX. They can hold the plane for you. Like…

Just every restaurant you go to, the whole people know who you are. People move around you. People like treat you different. How does he treat like wait staff and all that? Incredible. Oh, amazing. That's great. Tipped $2,500. Wow. The first night. Change your life. Yeah. Literally the guy was like, thank you so much. This was like amazing. Like it's like so – yeah, that's been really beautiful to see and kind to everyone. That's great. Like great communicator in that way. Yeah.

But yeah, it's, I think that, and also, you know, so the level of depth, I think he also expects from women is not at a level that I am. So, you know, we've gotten really deep for him. And I'm like, yeah, that was. That was light work. Literally light work. That was like, that was me in the barista. Yeah, totally. That was me and my Uber driver. Depth, depth level. So that is the thing is just my level of depth and depth.

you know, spirituality and sensitivity and all of that. I don't know if my trophy wife level is there. It's a fun experience. It's the best. Honestly, the abundance is so, the abundance to be around it is like so fucking, so, so fun. Cause now I'm just looking at men differently. I'm like, wow, it's the being, cause that's what I haven't been around men that have

haven't been this was the missing puzzle piece to all of my puzzle of men that i've dated was daddy provider energy sure and it's not even like he's you know it hasn't i haven't been like paid off or i'm not on payroll right yet yeah i'm not on payroll but it's like seeing just like someone that's like i'm always taking care of you i'm thinking one step ahead yep it doesn't even matter like when you have that type of money it doesn't matter it like he oh my god it was so fucking funny

We were checking out the other night. He goes, I was telling him about a previous situation with someone. And he starts laughing. He's like, can you believe that you split the bill and put two credit cards down before? Yeah.

You're like, you're telling me. I was crying laughing. He's like, yo, you had times where you put both cards down. I was like, I know. Wow. Don't remind me. Wow. Don't remind me. I had times at the end, I was like in certain relationships. I was like, dude, just take my fucking card. I don't even. Yeah. Don't care. Just fucking. Don't care. Don't care. We're out of that energy. I feel like you're. Yeah. Oh, I mean, that's what I've been thinking about too is my journey and trajectory. They've all gotten better.

Because the last one was paid very. And then this one, the most. Not even that that matters. It's just the way that we're stepping up the scale, getting closer is great. Yeah. Trillionaires next. Trillionaires next. I'm looking for a Rothschild. I'm going Rothschild. I'm going Vanderbilt. I'm talking more powerful than the president. Honestly. I actually don't even want them to be known or like...

They're just like full reptilian. Yeah, it's... Okay, that's the last thing about the money thing is it's in the end, you don't even know if you want that level of wealth because of all the trade-offs that you have with it and because of the... Yeah, and so... I just think there's a sweet spot with wealth and also being in a relationship in that wealth, whether it's combined or one person. Like, I just think there's a sweet spot where you can have a baller-ass life. Exactly. And also...

like being it together. Yes. You know, I don't know. Yeah. I can't describe it other than that. I thought I wanted, I thought I wanted a man that was fully in his kingdom. Yeah. And I do. I have really liked that, but it is different because if you are building together with a man that there's a different, um,

It allows me the freedom to build more because I think a man in his kingdom is going to want you to be in his kingdom too. Yes. Rather than you both building the kingdom together. But yeah, and to that point, I think like the feminine has such a like…

specific and important and necessary role in building the kingdom. A hundred percent. So it's like, that's how the relationship I think becomes even more, even stronger, even with more depth because like in times when he's thinking strategically about this, you're like, look at, okay, the energy here, the spiritual. Yes. My dream. You know what I mean? My dream. It's like,

It's funny too. And you don't have to really lift a finger. You just channel. And honestly, being with someone who's just wheeling and dealing is like hot. Oh, yeah. Because it's like I've been with men before who like were like wanted to be that. But like when they're actually talking like… Yeah. You know, he was talking… I was like, oh, who's your favorite… I was like, who's your favorite business partner? I'm asking these like dumbass questions.

And he's like, oh, there's this person. He's like, you know, he's so good to me because he needs to, if I need, you know, 200 yards, he'll spot me. And I'm like, oh, like 200 K. He's like, I know what that means. I had no idea. He just like patted me. I'm like, yo, like, cause so many people, so many men in my world or in the world that I was in talk and dream about talking that way and being that way.

And it's not that, again, it's not that they're any better, but to be around someone that's actually doing that and making it happen, obviously it has a trade-off, but it's like, it's really fun. Yeah. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. The confidence, the. Yeah. Yeah. The swagger about it. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. A hundred percent. Is style good? Is his style? Actually incredible. Great. It's like, cause he has a stylist. Sometimes when you're that rich, it could go either way. You know what? Yeah, that's true. Actually, you know what? Okay. I'll say this. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

It's not my preferred style. But it's rich. My preferred style is like basketball hat. Right. Like has a swag. I like swaggy basketball-y, sporty style. It's like I'm wearing a Celine jacket. Right. I have really tailored pants. Ferragamo shoes. Ferragamo shoes. You know, it's like kind of like Guido-y. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. You know, so it's not my… But also your own old man. But you can convince yourself to like it. If you're…

His age, if you're wearing swaggy basketball clothes, that's weird. Totally. I'm just picturing basketball shorts. Dude, I don't know why. That's like my... It's like, what's like hot? No, I know what you mean though. It's also like the way he moves. Like this is... I don't know how to describe a swagginess, but it's like...

There's like a way that you move. There's a flexibility of your thumbs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just picturing him kind of like sliding on the floor. Just like being able to like move. Do you want to spin move to the hostess? He's like, all right, let's get it. We were like sitting in the booth too. I had like a fur jacket on. He's like, I love this fur. And then he like flips it over and there's like Zara. And I'm like, just put it back. Put that back.

I was like, just mind your business, okay? Be like, is this a copy of anything that you can pick up for me? I was like, literally mind your business. I have three designer things that I'll wear on our next date all at once, okay? That's the other thing. So when I was dating, I had an experience where I was set up with a couple of rich guys. You guys can kind of fill in the blanks of why that happened.

And I went on a date. Prostitution. Prostitution. And I went on a date with, I don't know if he was a billionaire. I think he was like a hundred million or whatever. He lived at the Plaza. Like it was kind of corny like that. Yes. But I just remember my experience was like the extreme lack of swag, but it was confusing at that point in my life because I was like, but you know, they could provide, you know, like it was just like so attractive. Yeah.

Um, but it was like the contrast of absolutely not attracted to them at all. No swag, almost like asexual on their end. Right. And they were probably, you know, pushed to like be set up with people or whatever. But it was just such an interesting day at that point in my life. I think now I'd be like, yeah, no, like there's no chemistry there. Like yours sounds like there's chemistry. Like there's absolutely no chemistry, but I did go so far as to like go down to Miami on a trip.

put me up at a hotel. We would like hang out every day. No, didn't kiss, didn't hug. There was no like sexual energy. It was very interesting. So I think like sometimes with money, there's like, because this is my assumption when all of those other things are so stimulating,

You either like pay for sex or whatever, whatever. Or you're just, you're kind of neutral about the relationship realm because everything else is kind of like. Totally. My guy is not. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure. It's not. And that's actually not my preference to be so overtly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Boner at the table. Dude, what is going on with that? I like, for real, I'm like, I need to like, I think it's me though because I just like, dude, homeboy, this is crazy, you guys. Homeboy at dinner goes crazy.

How much do you weigh? Stop. Swear to God, Holy Bible. Stop. You guys, I'm just, I'm like, okay. And I go X. He's like, oh, okay. It's like, you could, you could actually stand to put on some weight. And I'm like, is this actually reverse psychology where you figured this out from women to say this stuff? You know what I mean? I'm like, what kind of psychoticness is this? And I'm like, okay. And I'm like, what's, I just, I just keep going. Like, I'm insane. I'm like, what's my range?

what is like the weight I can be okay at yeah and he like goes in and I'm like this is how I get man to reveal their cards as I play along oh yeah and I just get in their psyche and he's like oh this is the thing this is the rate like da da da da you're like how many inches oh my god literally he's like wow okay so I'll do liquids for like okay so I can be this range but this and like I mean that's the it's almost like a little yeah it's

If you're approaching every deal, wheeling and dealing, money, numbers, whatever, you're going to go to your girl and be like, how much do you weigh today? Yeah, dude. That's so interesting. It's also such an older guy thing to fucking ask because it's like no filter. No, it's psychotic. I literally go, as soon as you said that, I was like, take it easy. Yeah. I was like, what planet are you on? Wait, that's so crazy. And then I was like, I'll play. I was like, let's play. And then I was like, your turn. How much do you weigh? Okay.

But I think because I don't give a F, I think he's obsessed with that. Yeah, of course. Because everyone says, yes, these girls are nervous around, because I don't need anything. Yeah, exactly. What do I need? A freaking Dior saddlebag? Yeah. Like. Totally. I don't need like a peacoat. Like in a trip to Italy, I'm good. Yeah, totally. But, hey.

I'm free in February. Honestly, I'm like, hey, I was like, bring 10 of my girls on the way. Like, but it's tempting. Last thing is that I think I'm being, I think it's the test to be tempted because I think my, what I realized is if I'm staying with this, it means I don't believe that I can make wealth for myself.

Because I'm saying, oh, this is my access to wealth. This is my ticket to wealth. This is my ticket to living a life that I want is by being with this person. And I don't think that's true because I think I can actually have in build. I'm already living a life that I want, but like a life of, you know, the home and all of that stuff that I do crave and desire on my own. Yeah. And there's a part of me that just doesn't trust him, to be honest. Yeah. I mean, trust all those feelings. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. But it's good. It's like, that's the thing about dating is like,

You'll look back even now you're aware and reflective, but like it all makes sense. You know, it's like what do you kind of need to experience and learn and blah, blah, blah, blah. Yes. Because, and that's what's fun about dating. If you look at it that way, you're like, okay, God, what are you sending me? Yeah. What is my test? What is my lesson? Like, how can this bring me closer to myself? I just see it all as fun. I'm like, oh, this is fun. This is interesting. Yes.

This is, I'm learning. I just, I love to be around people. But I also needed to be, and recently I'm like, okay, Krista, this is interesting for you. But is this a good person? Yeah. Because I'm like, dude, what? Like, why are my standards for women like through the effing roof to hang out with me? But I'm like, man, I'm like, make me laugh. Tell me a story about

Yeah. You know, meeting Trump. Yep. It's like, you know, just like these standards are just so low. Well, I think with dating and tell me if this is your experience where like I just wanted to experience as much as possible to kind of see like what tickled my fancy. Yes. And it's also a test on like settling relationships.

You know, you're not going to settle. But like I was like definitely kind of prone to settle back then. Yeah. With people. And it's like what are the things that kind of attract me initially that are not actually the glue in a relationship? Like money's not the glue. Yeah, 100%. That's the whole thing is I'm like you could not –

Even if you gave me a million dollars every time we hung out, you're not paying me enough to spend time with someone I don't like. I do not. I can't even. I'm at a party and I'm in a conversation with someone I don't like and I literally cannot get away fast enough. I just don't care. I think it's clarified for me though that I want someone that feels like home.

You know, the guy in New York that I met was like, felt like a soul home. Yes. Like I was like, oh, we sat down seven hours, went by. I don't even know what's going on. Like, it's not like he was the best fit. It's not like he was like the most gorgeous man I've ever seen. It was just like soul home. Yes. And I think that's what made it clear for me. I'm like, you can have all of this. And even the French man, it's like, you can have all this stuff. But like, if you're not like a soul home, it's like, I don't want that. Yeah. You know? And it's felt, you can't really describe it. You can't, honestly. You know? It just happens.

Yeah. Like it just clicks and you can't force that. And you can have chemistry, but there's a different feeling of having like a soul home with someone. Because that's like a, that's a sustained chemistry, you know, because like the initial is kind of confusing. Totally. You're like, oh my God, this guy is so hot. Or wow, this lifestyle is like so fucking amazing. Yes.

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Dude, I love living through your dating. I know. That's the whole thing is I'm going to run out of stories for my friends. Don't be. Yeah. I know. But that's what I feel like. That's why I come on the pod. I'm like, so what do you guys want to know about the everyday of just being a freaking mom? How have you navigated relationship changes this year as a mom? That's huge. We have to communicate all the time. Yeah. Because I think the everyday just happens like so quickly and all of a sudden you're like,

when did we last go on a date? Or when did we last have sex? Or when, you know, it's like these things. And most of that falls by the wayside, not only because of like just schedules, he's working a lot, he's traveling. I have my stuff and Mav, it's like, you're tired. And so I have to kind of like, that's one thing I'm kind of looking at where, you know, yes, of course I'm tired. I think that's like,

kind of part of the vibe right now in this like stage of how old he is and everything. And that feeling tends to like really take me down emotionally, physically, everything. So it's like, what can I do for myself to like give me those just little extra boosts? And how can I be more of the initiator of like, whether it's sex or whether it's like, let's plan this Saturday, we're going to do a day date. I have a babysitter, they're coming. Like just

he's really good at that. I think he prioritizes that more than I do. And I appreciate that, but I would love to just kind of initiate that a little more. I think right now, just as the mom, my default is like, yeah, but what about Mav? And like, kind of that. And he and I talk about it and he talks about it like with our friends too. Like,

He's my priority, but he's not my top priority right now. So I try to keep them both at the top. But obviously, you know, I have a human being who's completely dependent on me, us, to live. So I think just letting him have that experience, being open to talk about it and how he's feeling, I think has been really important. And then I think too, like just allowing ourselves, and he has a different experience with this than I do, but we're kind of moving through it together. Like

like dreaming about the next stage of our life together. He's very much like, likes to be in and create adversity for himself to kind of work against. For example, we are looking to potentially move and the next stepping stone, we're going to stay in Brooklyn and then hopefully in X amount of years, we'll either build a house or buy a house. But we saw an apartment the other day and he went to see it on his own and

And he came back. I was like, did you like it? Because I saw it and I was like, I think this is perfect. And he's like, I don't think I'm allowing myself to like love it. Wow. Because I think there's that like, it is an up level. Yeah. And it's, it is totally possible we could do it. But he's like, I just realized like I kind of have a block with like.

really up-leveling in that way. I'm sure it feels a lot as like the provider. I'm sure it feels like just a lot of pressure, you know? So it actually, as stressful as it is sometimes around like big life decisions and moving through those together, I find it like really fun and exciting, like to kind of, you know, workshop those moments together, kind of get to the root of like what's really holding us back or what's really stressing us out about things.

Um, but to see him as a dad is literally the best. And what I've noticed is like Mav loves to just, he likes to have a lot of fun with daddy. Like he really like Mav's mood, like just, he's always amazing. But like with daddy, it's just so playful. And they say that like the dynamic with like fathers as opposed to mothers, like

they're there for the play. So it's just, it's really, really sweet. What if that's hormonal? For sure. Like if it's testosterone, like they feel their hormones or they smell different. Makes complete sense. And I think too, like he's dependent on me for like, cause I still breastfeed a couple of times a day and like, you know, he'll, I pick him up and he's like milk, milk, like, and like tapping my chest. So it's like, I'm like,

He needs me. And with daddy, it's like, what do we do? Yeah, we can have fun. We can have fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's really sweet to see. And just allowing him to have like more autonomy as a parent. Yeah. Because I could definitely hover and kind of give him the list of things he needs to do. And just allowing him to ask me if he needs any guidance or whatever. But just like let them have an afternoon together. Yeah. Go off, do whatever. Yeah.

do the things I probably wouldn't do and let that be okay instead of me like stressing about it. Yeah, it changes. If people tell you your marriage doesn't change after kids, I think that's completely wrong. I don't know how it wouldn't. It changes so much. But...

I think the communication is just key. Yeah. Period. Key with everything. Everything. It's just, yeah. It's like the time, your energy, your body, like you're, it's just, yeah. It's so. But I think within just on the body piece, last thing is like my body's changed. My energy levels have changed. Aesthetically, I feel like I've changed and kind of like just having that moment of like, am I okay with gracefully aging? Yeah.

And I think within the relationship container, it's I can have all my thoughts about it. But to have someone reflect back to me like, you're beautiful, like you're so hot, you know, like all those things that I know he knows he thinks are true. But it helps me to kind of not make that like something I'm thinking about a lot. Yeah. Does that make sense? Because I don't really want to be thinking about it a lot.

I mean, the amount of brain space it takes up, I think is so crazy for women. Like, yeah, I think being, I think for me being single, it's taken up so much more brain space than when I was in relationship. Sure. When I was in relationship, I was like, whatever, dude, it's all good. But then you're single. You're like, totally. It's like actually tiring. It's a huge focus. Yeah. I've been like, I need to let this go. It's so frustrating. Not frustrating. It's fine. I just am like, it's just, it,

Well, sometimes you just need a break. Yeah, it just needs to shift. That's what I say about like having a kid. I'm like, I'm no longer like always fucking thinking of myself. Yeah, for sure. And how I can fix myself. What I could do. For sure. You know, it's like… Yeah, it's just… It's like a nice little break. Yeah. I'll come back to it. But honestly… What would you say one word to describe this year for you was? And then what's your word for next year? This past year was…

I don't know if I can whittle down to one word, but I just feel like it was expansive in the sense that I really didn't know how much I could hold. Yeah. You know, I really didn't know like how much I could push myself physically, mentally, emotionally. I mean, yeah, becoming a parent. Yeah, it's just it's a fast track to like,

all the work that you thought you were doing before, it's kind of like then you're in the fire. Yeah. And then you really kind of see what's working, what's not. And I'm proud of myself. I'm really proud of myself for holding, you know, what it means to like raise a child in the first year, marriage, almost 30, writing a book, yada, yada, yada. I just like,

I hope that I can have time after this period to like reflect on like how major that is. You know? How about you? I think my word for this year would probably be adventure. I think I just went on so many adventures. You know, I was like all over the world. I went on adventures with my friends. I had such adventuresome love experiences.

Like all the uncertainty of it all just felt like an adventure, you know? And I feel like it was just so beautiful. But I think my word next year is dialed. I just want to get dialed. Like I just want to be freaking dialed in. In what way? With… I want to know… I've been a little willy-nilly about my time spent, like I was saying. Yeah.

I watch a little bit too much YouTube. I listen to a little bit too much, too many podcasts content. I want to get more dialed spiritually. I want to get more dialed in my business with my money. I want to be more dialed and I am pretty dialed, but in my relationships, like just even more dialed with things.

I just want to like focus in a way that I don't feel like I have. I feel like I follow what feels good. I feel like I follow my pleasure. I'm kind of like doing whatever I want. But I think that there's an opportunity for me to really like dial my brand, dial the business, dial everything in so that it can go bigger. Yeah. You know? I think my word for next year, maybe this has been my word before, but I feel like it means something different, but trust. Because I feel like... That's a good one. We have such an exciting year next year. And...

as excited as I am, as I said before, like there's some like anxiety about certain logistical things. We're talking about the book launch. Yeah. But I just want to like, I just want to trust that like everything's going to just work out perfectly. And I want to trust that this experience is like one that I'll hold for the rest of my life and that my family will hold for the rest. You know what I mean? Where I think I'm worried about like the logistics with

with Mav and whatnot, I'm like, dude, this is an adventure for him too. You know, it's like all those things that I seem to like worry about or want to control and just trusting that like the timing of my life, you know, what's happening and what's coming up in the order is perfect. You know? Yeah. I love that trust. Cause next year is going to be, this year is going to be big. Yeah. It's big. It's going to be big. It's going to be big for us. It's going to be big for everyone else. And I think people,

I think everyone in my life is doing really well. Yeah. So I'm excited to see like what happens next. Yeah. Because everyone's just doing well. Me too. I don't know if it's the age. I don't know if it's what I'm picking up on or what I'm perceiving, but like everybody's good. And it's such a pleasure because everyone's just going to build from there, you know? I hope that for our audience too, which is so good. So we love you guys so much. Should this be the new format for the pod? Yes, honestly. It should just be the new format for the pod. Yeah.

I feel like we're going to get some of that feedback of like, oh, gee, days more of this. Oh, for sure. Oh, gee, days. I was like, oh, gee, days were a little more like I was a little more chaotic and lost. Same. A little more depressed. Yeah, totally. A little more unwell. I was a little bit more like I'd be with the Billy, but like doing whatever I could to like contort myself to make it work. Totally. Now it's just like, whatever, dude.

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