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Ben's Bearish (EP.406)

2025/4/2
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Ben Carlson
一位专注于投资教育和策略的金融专家,通过博客和播客分享投资见解。
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Michael Batnick
作为 Ritholtz Wealth Management 的管理合伙人和研究总监,Michael Batnick 是一位知名的投资专家和播客主持人。
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Ben Carlson: 我认为特朗普的关税政策结果将会是二元对立的,未来人们会觉得结果显而易见。一方面,如果关税真的重创经济,许多人会理所当然地大声疾呼。另一方面,我认为这可能是19维象棋,特朗普制造混乱以宣称胜利。 我不相信特朗普会真的损害经济,但我的观点可能是错的。我对特朗普关税政策的信心有所下降,因为其持续时间之长出乎意料。即使特朗普的关税政策可能很快失效,我们仍然需要评估其潜在的经济影响。 基于期权的投资策略虽然在数学上可能次优,但可以帮助投资者坚持投资。投资者更喜欢投资组合中的一定程度的确定性。 在某些地区,买家现在处于有利地位。每一代人都认为西方文明正在崩溃。 Michael Batnick: 特朗普对进口汽车征收25%的关税可能导致GDP下降0.25%。汽车贷款拖欠率上升是货币紧缩政策滞后反应,但也部分原因是2021年和2022年人们疯狂购买超出承受能力的商品。特朗普的汽车关税将导致汽车价格上涨,最终损害整个汽车行业。汽车关税将导致所有汽车制造商提高价格。 当前的市场不确定性与以往不同,因为存在二元结果。市场对特朗普政策的反应将非常剧烈。如果关税导致汽车价格上涨,人们将延长贷款期限,为了维持相同的汽车消费水平,人们将选择延长汽车贷款期限。即使经济放缓,消费者也不太可能改变消费习惯,而是选择增加债务。 能源行业高管对当前的经济不确定性感到担忧,能源行业的不确定性导致企业规划停滞。政府债务允许家庭修复资产负债表,如果经济放缓,家庭债务将会增加。华尔街对特朗普政策的预测是错误的,许多人希望看到2016年至2019年的经济复苏,但这并没有发生。杰米·戴蒙在预测特朗普政策方面是错误的。 我以前认为总统对股市影响不大,但特朗普的政策似乎试图让经济和股市下跌。政府的政策可能会严重损害经济。公司盈利可能会下降10%到15%,投资者可能会降低对美国股票的估值溢价。白宫对关税政策的准备不足,特朗普似乎不在乎经济是否下滑。当前的情况可能失控。 股市对坏消息的反应相对温和,大型科技股的跌幅加剧了人们的焦虑情绪。股市对关税政策的反应过于乐观。如果特朗普进一步加征关税,股市可能会大幅下跌。股市在经济衰退之外下跌后通常会迅速反弹,股市在经济衰退中下跌后的反弹时间较长。目前股市下跌并非是明显的卖出时机。 第一季度美国股票ETF的资金流入量巨大,ETF投资者的行为变化需要很长时间。长期国债的表现优于股市。美国财富高度集中在少数家庭手中,财富不平等是长期存在的现象。许多家庭的净资产为负值,底层50%的实际收入和生活水平在过去一百年中有所提高。底层50%的资产主要为房地产,随着财富的增加,股票投资的比例会增加。底层50%的财富也在增长,但速度不如富裕阶层。经济放缓对底层人群的影响更大。 私募股权公司正在寻求进入401k市场,私募股权投资不适合普通401k投资者。将私募股权投资引入401k市场可能会降低费用。许多401k投资者已经从401k账户中提取贷款,从401k账户中提取贷款有时是合理的。 抵押贷款月供达到历史新高,购房者正在重新进入市场。最佳购房时机是在买得起的时候。房地产市场存在地区差异,弗吉尼亚州的房地产市场火热,迈阿密的房地产市场供应过剩。房地产市场表现存在地区差异。 Apple TV+每年亏损超过10亿美元,Apple对Apple TV+的亏损可能并不在意。流媒体平台现在会在每集开头提供剧情回顾,流媒体平台可能因为观众容易分心而提供每集剧情回顾。 加拿大鹅很讨厌,加拿大鹅攻击了我。

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On episode 406 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick) and Ben Carlson) discuss: auto tariffs, binary outcomes on Liberation Day, rising uncertainty, why household debt is going to rise, the Mag 7 bear market, the pros and cons of buffered ETFs, the bottom 50%, PE in 401k plans, a diverging housing market and more.

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