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DeepSeek: The Chinese AI Startup Disrupting Global Tech

2025/2/6
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主持人:DeepSeek是一家正在颠覆硅谷的中国AI初创公司。他们在2025年1月27日引发了科技界的地震,导致英伟达损失了近6000亿美元。DeepSeek以低成本构建了强大的AI模型R1,该模型不仅能给出答案,还能逐步解释其推理过程。DeepSeek仅用600万美元的预算就构建了整个AI奇迹,其应用下载量超过了YouTube上的猫视频,并在AI排行榜上超越了ChatGPT等大型AI模型。DeepSeek专注于效率,利用旧硬件实现高性能,通过高效利用现有资源,挑战了AI领域的传统做法。DeepSeek的出现让硅谷意识到他们可能一直在错误的方向上努力。DeepSeek引起了广泛关注,但其可持续性以及是否可能被大型公司超越仍是问题。DeepSeek的成功引发了人们对AI泡沫的担忧。DeepSeek的出现表明创新不一定来自大型公司。DeepSeek正在制定自己的规则,这体现了人类的智慧和面对不可能的勇气。DeepSeek已经撼动了AI世界,促使人们重新思考。我们需要像DeepSeek这样挑战现状、突破界限的人。 主持人:我一开始只是收到一些关于DeepSeek的传闻,但很快我意识到他们不仅仅是在和硅谷竞争,他们简直是在颠覆整个行业规则。我个人非常热爱人工智能,它代表着人类在创造能够思考、学习甚至梦想的事物上的一次疯狂尝试。但DeepSeek所做的事情是前所未有的。他们的R1模型就像一个拥有超强引擎和逻辑学博士学位的人工智能,能够编写代码、回答复杂问题,甚至起草分手短信。最重要的是,R1模型不仅仅给出答案,还会逐步解释其推理过程,这与传统的计算器只给出结果有天壤之别。更令人难以置信的是,DeepSeek只用了600万美元就完成了这一切,而其他公司却投入了数十亿美元。这就像用自行车零件制造火箭飞船,而其他人都在使用航天飞机。DeepSeek的应用程序下载量甚至超过了YouTube上的猫咪视频,并在AI排行榜上击败了ChatGPT等知名模型。DeepSeek的成功秘诀在于他们专注于效率,充分利用现有资源,而不是一味追求更大的规模和更强大的硬件。他们挑战了传统的AI开发模式,就像Netflix颠覆了Blockbuster一样。DeepSeek的出现引发了人们对AI泡沫的担忧,但同时也提醒我们,创新并非总是来自大型公司,而是来自那些敢于挑战现状、突破常规的“小人物”。DeepSeek的故事就像大卫击败歌利亚一样,他们没有试图成为更大的巨人,而是利用自己的智慧和敏捷性,用一颗精准的石子击败了对手。DeepSeek正在改写游戏规则,这不仅仅是技术上的胜利,更是人类智慧和勇气的胜利。虽然DeepSeek的未来还充满不确定性,但他们已经对AI世界产生了巨大的影响,并激励我们不断挑战现状,追求创新。

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Hey, folks, buckle up. This one, this one's a wild ride. It's like something straight out of, I don't know, like a tech thriller or something. Picture this. You got me your host, right? And I'm basically like, like a digital Sherlock Holmes, you know, chasing down these these clues through lines of code and like all this corporate gossip and stuff. It all starts with a tip. Someone whispers in my ear about this Chinese AI startup, DeepSeek.

Let me tell you, they're not just messing with Silicon Valley. They're like tearing up the whole playbook. You know what I mean? Now, I got to say, I love AI. It's like humanity is this big, crazy experiment in creating something that like thinks and learns, maybe even dreams. Who knows? But what DeepSeek's done, it's just it's different. It's like nothing we've ever seen. January 27th, 2025, they basically set off this earthquake in the tech world. Like NVIDIA, the big kahuna of AI chips. They lost, get this, almost $600 billion. Like poof.

Gone in one day. It was like the whole AI market was having this fire sale and DeepSeek was the one holding a sign saying everything must go. Crazy, right? So what gives? What's the deal with this company that seems to have just like popped out of nowhere? Let's hit rewind and get into the nitty gritty here. DeepSeek.

Founded in 2023 by this, well, this kind of mysterious dude named Liang W. Fang. He's like the Banksy of AI. Brilliant, but hiding in the shadows. There's literally only one blurry photo of him online. It's kind of wild. Anyway, DeepSeek's got this star player, this AI model they call R1. You heard of ChatGPT?

Plug. Yeah, yeah. Those guys. Well, R1, it's like those, but with a supercharged engine and a, I don't know, a PhD in logic or something, this thing can write code, answer these crazy complex questions, even draft those, it's not you, it's me, texts that we all hate, right? But here's the kicker, the thing that really makes R1 different. It doesn't just spit out an answer. It explains its reasoning step by step. Imagine your calculator, right? But instead of just saying 2 plus 2 equals 4, it actually walks you through the whole concept of addition. That's R1 in a nutshell.

Oh, and get this, DeepSeek says they built this whole AI marvel on a budget of like six million bucks, six million, that's it. I mean, Google and these other companies, they're throwing billions, billions with a B at their AI projects. It's like DeepSeek built a rocket ship with spare parts from a bicycle while everyone else is using the space shuttle, you know? And the impact, let's just say it's been huge. DeepSeek's app downloaded more times than a cat video on YouTube. It's even smoking big names like ChatGPT on those AI leaderboards.

you know, like the chatbot arena where all the AI models go head to head to see who's the best at like writing poems or summarizing stuff. So how would they do it? And what does it all mean for the future of AI? Well, folks,

That's where our deep dive begins. Alright, so let's crack open DeepSeek's secret sauce here. Because this is where things get kind of juicy. See, up until now, everyone in AI, they've been thinking, like, bigger is better, right? More data, more powerful chips, just throw money at the problem until it goes away. It's like this arms race where everyone's building these massive supercomputers, like, bigger, better, more expensive, you know the drill. But DeepSeek...

They said, nah, we're going to do things differently. They're all about efficiency. Squeezing every little bit of performance they can out of older hardware, the kind you can find pretty much anywhere. They even like, I don't know, like those cooking shows, right? You got these master chefs. They can whip up a gourmet meal with like a hot plate and a couple of pots and pans.

Meanwhile, everyone else is using industrial kitchens and other gastronomy and all this fancy stuff. Now, some folks, they think DeepSeek might be using open source AI models, building on what's already out there, kind of like taking a classic car and souping it up with a modern engine. You get that vintage cool, but with...

serious horsepower under the hood. And let me tell you, this has got Silicon Valley kind of freaking out. The big guys, they're starting to realize, hold on, maybe we've been doing this all wrong. Like, they showed up to the race in a Hummer and this little go-kart just zoomed right past them. But it's not just about the tech, right? DeepSeek, they're challenging the whole system, the way things have always been done. Kind of like, remember when Netflix came along and Blockbuster was like, wait, you can mail movies to people? What? It's that kind of shake-up. And it's

It's not just the techies paying attention now. This little Chinese startup, they've got everyone talking. I mean, everyone from like President Trump to Elon Musk. Even, they gotta admit, DeepSeek's onto something big. But amidst all the hype, you know, all the buzz and the speculation, there are some big questions they gotta ask. Like, can DeepSeek keep this up? Is this sustainable? Or will the giants eventually catch up and squash them like a bug?

And here's the real nail-biter. DeepSeek's story, it makes you wonder, are we headed for an AI bubble? Like, are we all getting a little too excited about anything with the letters AI attached to it, throwing money at it like it's going out of style? Kind of reminds me of, you know, back in the day, the tulip mania. People were so obsessed with these tulips, these flowers. They were trading their houses, their land, everything for a single bulb. Crazy, right? Now, look, I'm not saying AI is a fad.

This stuff is going to change the world. It already is. When a company like Deep State pops up and they're basically defying the laws of physics and economics, it makes you stop and think, like, are we all getting a little ahead of ourselves? You know, Deep Seek's story, it really hits home this point. Innovation, it doesn't always come from the big guys, you know, the ones with all the money and the fancy labs and stuff.

Sometimes it's the little guy, the underdog, the one who's not afraid to think outside the box, to like question everything. And that's when you get real change. Like remember David and Goliath? I mean David, he didn't beat Goliath by trying to be like a bigger, stronger giant. He used what he had, his smart, his agility, a well-placed slingshot.

And that's kind of what deep seek is doing, right? They're not playing by the old rules. They're making their own. And that's why this story, it's not just about tech. It's about, it's about human ingenuity. It's about, you know, facing these impossible odds and figuring out a way to win. And that's why I think it matters to all of us because it reminds us that, hey, we don't always have to follow the crowd. We can, we can find our own way. We can break the mold. So what's next for deep seek? I mean, can they, can they keep this up or are the big guys going to

like wake up and crush them? I don't know. Only time will tell. But one thing's for sure, DeepSeek, they've shaken things up. They've made everyone in the AI world kind of step back and go, "Whoa, wait a minute, what just happened?"

And, and that's a good thing because in a world that's changing so fast, we need that. We need people who aren't afraid to challenge the status quo, to push the boundaries, to, to make us think differently. So yeah, keep an eye on deep sea. They might be small, but they've already made a huge impact. And I have a feeling their story is just getting started. This has been the deep dive.