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2024/5/29
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Avantika Chilkoti: 我是经济学人的驻外记者Avantika Chilkoti,十年来我一直关注着印度,特别是莫迪的崛起。莫迪的成功之处在于他将经济发展与民族主义议程巧妙地结合,使印度经济规模翻倍,并在国际舞台上扮演着越来越重要的角色。然而,他的民族主义政策也引发了人们的担忧,特别是对少数族裔的冲击。阿约提亚寺庙的落成典礼就是一个例子,它模糊了宗教与政治的界限,挑战了印度世俗民主的原则。莫迪的权力很大,但他缺乏问责制,这让人们对未来感到担忧。我试图通过采访莫迪的亲信和观察他的政治行为来了解他,并探究他能否继续平衡其政治议程的两个方面,最终将印度建设成为超级大国。 Bharat Barai: 我是莫迪在美国的朋友,曾帮助组织他在麦迪逊广场花园的集会。莫迪是一个有远见卓识的领导人,他带领印度经济取得了巨大的进步。他是一个简单的人,但他的目标是让印度在世界舞台上占据更重要的地位。然而,他的民族主义政策也引发了争议,一些人担心这会威胁到印度的世俗民主。莫迪的成功与挑战并存,他的未来之路充满不确定性。

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Hi, I'm Avantika Chilkoti, a foreign correspondent at The Economist. I started out in journalism just over a decade ago in Mumbai. There was one big story in India back then: the landslide election of a new kind of leader: Narendra Modi. Ten years on, the big question in my mind, and in the minds of anyone interested in India, is still the same: who is Narendra Modi, really? Travel around India and Modi's everywhere.

on billboards, on TV, at the cricket. But he's also elusive. The prime minister doesn't do press conferences. As the leader of the world's biggest democracy, Modi has proven to be a strong man with a dangerous streak of authoritarianism. He rarely gives unscripted interviews. So to tell a story, I've tried to find those closest to him. Modi had only one 22-inch suitcase. So a very simple man.

Bharat Barai is an Indian-American oncologist who hosted Modi on one of his first visits to America. He calls Modi a friend. After Modi was elected prime minister, Bharat Barai helped organize a rally in America. 18,000 Modi supporters filled Madison Square Garden in New York. And his speech, of course, was extraordinary as usual.

It was clear from the start that Modi was on a mission to change India. Under Modi, the economy has doubled in size. It's a rise reminiscent of the epic transformation of 19th century America. And India's positioning itself as a powerful, independent player in the new world order. But there's a second part to Modi's vision for India. He's the front man for a chauvinistic Hindu nationalist dogma.

Many Indians, especially Muslims and other minorities, are terrified. This year, Bharat Barai was at another big event centred around Modi: the opening of a Hindu temple in Ayodhya, a site in northern India that Hindus and Muslims have battled over for centuries. It's made of white stone and it was decorated so beautifully

We felt so divine. Modi led the consecration ceremony. It was a blatant blurring of religion and politics, an attack on India's secular democracy. He's the first citizen of India. Why should he not go there? Now, Narendra Modi is eyeing another five years in power. I want to find out how he got this far, and whether he can continue to balance both parts of his agenda.

the Hindu nationalist ideology and the pro-growth push to finish the job of turning India into a superpower. You can have a computer and you can have Bhagavad Gita in your hand. This is the story of the enigmatic outsider who rose up to dominate India and shape its destiny. It's called the Modi Raj. He acted quite a bit in school plays and school functions, but he always wanted the lead role.

If you don't give him the lead role, he will not be part of it. He has every quality to make the image of the country, you know, bigger and magnified many times on the world stage. It's one of the basic tenets of democracy that you're answerable. Mr. Modi is answerable to no one. He said, you have placed your gun on my shoulder and fired. And I said, that is precisely what I told you would happen. And I forewarned you. Muslims were just scared of what this man will do.

What's next? What's coming our way?