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cover of episode Can Ethereum Compete with Bitcoin, Solana & Celestia? | Mike Ippolito & Jon Charbonneau

Can Ethereum Compete with Bitcoin, Solana & Celestia? | Mike Ippolito & Jon Charbonneau

2024/12/9
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专注于AI和区块链融合的专家,但具体信息不详。
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Mike Ippolito
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Mike Ippolito:以太坊面临的挑战在于其世界计算机的愿景难以被大众理解和接受,人们更倾向于关注能产生现金流、可建模且有增长潜力的项目。长期来看,以太坊比比特币更有可能成为更好的货币,但其需要解决的是如何将世界计算机的愿景与人们的预期相结合。 Mike Ippolito:以太坊的优势在于其流动性和用户数量,而非去中心化程度。人们选择以太坊是因为其高流动性,而不是其去中心化属性。以太坊需要专注于提升其执行层,并将其作为世界计算机的核心竞争力。 Mike Ippolito:以太坊需要更强的领导力,并愿意接受人员变动以实现清晰的愿景。多个生态系统共同发展对于区块链的扩展至关重要,但以太坊需要承认并解决其协调问题,这与竞争无关。 Jon Charbonneau:以太坊长期以来缺乏清晰的整体愿景,这导致其在与竞争对手竞争的各个维度上都缺乏明确的目标。比特币、Solana和Celestia都有清晰的愿景和目标,而以太坊在这方面却相对模糊。以太坊面临协调问题,因为其内部对发展方向缺乏共识,这阻碍了其改进和发展。清晰的愿景对于吸引开发者和投资者至关重要。 Jon Charbonneau:以太坊当前的困境既有自然发展因素,也有其早期有意去中心化决策的因素。以太坊早期注重去中心化决策,这导致了权力分散,如今面临协调困难。以太坊最初更像Solana,后来更偏向比特币,现在则更强调Celestia的Rollup愿景。 Jon Charbonneau:以太坊的许多选择都取决于其发展路径,最终目标可能相似,但路径不同。以太坊应专注于改进其执行层,并将其作为世界计算机的核心竞争力。以太坊不应过度依赖Layer 2,而应加强其底层。 Jon Charbonneau:以太坊可以专注于成为最佳货币或成为世界计算机,这两种极端策略都可能比目前的策略更好。以太坊可以专注于成为最佳货币,并为此优化其经济模型和技术架构。以太坊的独特价值在于其去中心化、中立性和执行层。以太坊的执行层是其核心竞争力,应优先改进。 Jon Charbonneau:以太坊应专注于建设世界计算机,其货币价值将随之而来。以太坊内部对竞争领域缺乏共识,这是其主要问题。以太坊社区需要在愿景上达成一致,然后才能在技术细节上取得进展。 David Hoffman:以太坊社区近年来因竞争加剧而焦虑,其作为金融资产的故事并未像比特币作为货币的故事那样获得主流社会的成功。比特币作为货币在主流社会中越来越受欢迎,而以太坊作为金融资产的成功程度却不如比特币。与此同时,Solana吸引了大量资金和新用户,Celestia的数据可用性进展也快于以太坊。以太坊长期处于和平时期,现在需要改变其策略,积极应对竞争。 David Hoffman:以太坊的去中心化协调模式在早期运作良好,但随着其发展和成熟,一些问题开始显现。以太坊的去中心化协调模式在早期取得了巨大成功,但随着其发展,一些问题开始显现。以太坊的许多技术争论实际上反映了其发展方向上的分歧。 David Hoffman:以太坊应简化其路线图,专注于数据可用性、执行和共识这三个核心领域。以太坊应重新调整其路线图,专注于成为最佳货币、提供最大数据可用性和最强大的执行能力。以太坊的问题并非技术问题,而是社会和政治问题,需要采取实际行动来解决。 David Hoffman:以太坊的复杂性可能源于其目标的广泛性,它试图整合其他几个生态系统的功能。以太坊的目标是成为比比特币更好的货币,拥有比Celestia更高的数据可用性,以及比Solana更强的执行能力。以太坊需要承认并解决其协调问题,这与竞争无关。

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Ethereum faces competition from Bitcoin, Solana, and Celestia, leading to a debate about its core vision and direction. The discussion explores Ethereum's purpose and whether it should focus on money, smart contracts, or rollups.
  • Ethereum's community is divided on its primary focus.
  • Bitcoin, Solana, and Celestia are emerging as strong competitors.
  • Lack of a clear vision is causing coordination problems within Ethereum.

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What is Ethereum’s North Star, and does it even need one?

There has been angst in the Ethereum community, growing over the last year, as Ethereum has become squeezed by its competition. Bitcoin’s story as money is growing in mainstream society. Solana has captured the hot ball of money in crypto. And Celestia’s data availability continues to progress at a faster rate than what is found at home in Ethereum.

This is Ethereum’s Three-Front War, a topic we covered in a recent episode with Justin Drake. And today we‘re joined by Jon Charbonneau and Mike Ippolito to contextualize and diagnose what Ethereum needs in order to thrive in this competitive landscape.

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0:00 Intro 6:00 Jon’s Article 16:48 How did we get here? 23:16 Ethereum’s Three Front War 43:14 Ethereum Wins by its Synergies 52:52 Ethereum’s Focus 1:01:58 Ethereum Tactical Advice 1:18:18 Ultra Sound Money vs World Computer 1:30:26 Closing & Disclaimers

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