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Barbarians Remix: Mandarin Mayhem I

2025/6/17
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David Moser
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Jeremiah Jenny
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Zhang Yajun
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Jeremiah Jenny: 我认为普通话的目的在于促进中国不同群体之间的交流和沟通，但同时也需要考虑如何处理和保护中国多元的语言文化。我希望通过这次讨论，能够更深入地了解普通话在当今中国社会中的角色和意义。 David Moser: 我认为普通话的推广和普及，实际上是一个复杂的历史和政治过程。从清朝末年到现代，中国一直在努力寻找一种统一的语言，以促进国家认同和凝聚力。但是，这种语言统一的努力，也面临着如何平衡和保护地方语言文化的挑战。我希望通过分析普通话的定义、历史演变和实际应用，能够更全面地理解中国语言政策的复杂性。 Zhang Yajun: 作为一名母语使用者，我认为普通话在实际应用中存在一些问题。例如，在媒体和教育领域，对于标准普通话的强调，可能会忽略甚至压制地方口音和方言。我希望通过分享我的个人经验和观察，能够帮助大家更好地理解普通话在不同地区和群体中的实际影响。

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This chapter explores the definition of Mandarin, its historical evolution, and the complexities of defining languages and dialects, particularly in a diverse nation like China. It also touches upon the political aspects of language standardization and the differences between various dialects.
  • Mandarin, or Putonghua, is a standardized form of Chinese.
  • The definition of language vs. dialect is often political.
  • There are significant differences between Northern Chinese dialects and standard Putonghua.

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In this classic episode of Barbarians at the Gate from 2020, David Moser and I examine Putonghua (普通话), the spoken language most people refer to as Mandarin, and ask the question: What is the point of Putonghua?

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We look at the question of what constitutes a dialect, and what defines a language, especially in a country as diverse as China? We look at the historical evolution of standardized speech in China, tracing a line from the Mandarin as spoken during the dynastic period, to "Guoyu 国语" (National Speech) in the Republican Period, and finally to Putonghua in the PRC. We also receive assistance from Zhang Yajun, who discusses with David the differences between the spoken language of Northern China, particularly around Beijing, and "Standard" Putonghua.

Recommendations:

A Billion Voices: China's Search for a Common Language by David Moser (Penguin, 2016)

Dialect and Nationalism in China, 1860–1960 by Gina Anne Tam (Cambridge University Press, 2020)