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22. The Cyber War

2023/1/6
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Saul David 和 Patrick Bishop:普京新年讲话并未展现和平解决冲突的意愿,反而加剧了战争言论,并对西方国家进行指责。马基伊夫卡袭击事件暴露了俄罗斯军队在战场上的失误和低效,也突显了普京追求彻底胜利的高风险战略。西方制裁对俄罗斯经济的影响仍在持续,但其效果可能不如预期显著。中国在俄乌战争中的立场较为中立,但其未来行动仍存在不确定性。 David Alexander:网络间谍活动与网络战的区别在于前者是秘密收集情报,而后者是主动破坏敌方活动。俄罗斯对平民基础设施的网络攻击是不可接受的。塔林手册等国际法文件对网络行动中的战争规则进行了规定,但俄罗斯并未遵守。北约已将网络攻击纳入其第五条的描述中,并划定了网络攻击的红线。北约在战争前就已协助乌克兰提升网络能力,这有助于乌克兰抵御俄罗斯的网络攻击。网络攻击能够破坏军事行动中的关键基础设施,从而影响军事能力。俄罗斯在入侵乌克兰之前就进行了大量的网络攻击准备工作,但其效果并不理想,这与西方的应对策略变化有关。志愿黑客和网络犯罪组织也参与了网络战,但其影响有限。俄罗斯联邦安全局(FSB)的代理人信息泄露对其造成了重大打击。网络战虽然重要,但最终还是要依靠地面作战来取得胜利。北约在网络能力方面拥有显著的优势,能够对俄罗斯实施毁灭性打击,但不会将其作为首选攻击手段。俄罗斯正在输掉网络战,并且缺乏扭转局势的能力。 Patrick Bishop:普京别无选择,只能发动进攻以夺回他们声称属于自己的领土。俄罗斯可能没有能力发动大规模进攻,如果他们这样做,很可能会在战场上被击败。尽管战争在俄罗斯并不受欢迎,但目前还没有迹象表明存在足以推翻普京的有组织的反对派。

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Putin's New Year's speech reinforced his commitment to the war in Ukraine, emphasizing an existential struggle against Western aggression and the necessity for Russia to win. The speech also highlighted Russia's resilience against Western sanctions and called for unity among Russians.

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The unseen conflict happening in cyberspace is a key battleground in the war in Ukraine. So to tell us in detail about a relatively unknown area of the conflict, we spoke to one of Britain’s greatest experts, David Alexander - an academic who has worked at very senior level on the development of both national cyber policy and operational capability for both the UK Government and Ministry of Defence. Patrick and Saul also discuss Putin's New Year's speech, the Ukrainian HIMARS strike in Makiivka, and answer some listeners questions.

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