Discipline Alone Can’t Make You Successful, Use THIS Instead… | Bryan Callen
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Hi, welcome back to the big deal podcast. I'm cody sanchez. And this is for those of you who don't want to just be rich but free and do IT takes to get there.

Okay, this week, brian. Colin, oh, my fucking got so good. I was on the floor laughing in this entire podcast, also learning things that I never expected to learn.

If you don't know brian, he has been an actor in a comedian four decades. You might have see him in the hang over one. They hang over two um you know right along he had mad TV he is on joe rogan constantly.

In fact, he left my podcast today and went joe rogan afterwards. Brian is an incredibly skilled after a comedian with a huge netflix special. It's going to be coming out soon. Um but I think one of the most interesting parts about this pond cast today was listening to if you want to be funny is their way to actually do IT.

And I loved his answer on this if you're a Young man and you're not maybe gitten as many trips as you want to the attention that you want, could you use comedy to actually solve that? Three, to comedians make any money. And how same goes with actors for what's going on right now with all of these politicians on this committee platforms? What's happening? why? And I think that answer sort of blew me away.

And then finally, kind of deep questions about how do you become a Better human um how do you become a Better parent maybe because if you've got a little cash and you kid to be Better than you were and a wild story about what IT actually takes to be really successful over time. And his answer surprised me it's not gonna what you think. So without further deal, it's going into brian Colin and apologized for the higher a co of mine you're going to hear often, although sometimes they call IT a donkey break.

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We've already talked about wolves here.

Is, is that like a thing? Is that a black house started with a rock?

And I back back in the day, he's obsessed with like crow and grazed.

And but you're not I mean.

I like that. You know it's it's I can talk to about like who I think would win a fight, tiger or grisly and it's ridiculous conversation that is that but i'll get into IT like you go to the data just the difference between kobe, an Jordan or mom oi and light and I can I can a pontificate and give you my useless opinion based on, you know, my guy energy .

but people like IT yeah yeah they wanted know yeah you're funny or people that are weathered around you because you're funny and so then they try to be funny like i've got a little nervous when you came over. I like, i'm trying to tell a joke i've not funny and actually stopped telling joke .

it's not true so it's like, it's like humor is are we really yeah humors humors how we if you think about humor, there's an intimacy of humor, right? So so typically you can a lot of times mark a lot of the great moments in your life with how much you are laughing with people. Yeah, this is earthly, your friends.

I think something about laughter is it's a little bit I ve taken the whole chess board and thrown in the air but by the way, don't unrested mate, how important is to be able to laugh? Yeah I got like me if he's around somebody and they are connected and they're really laughing yeah that's incredibly that's also amazing. That's a form of i'm having an effect on you and you're having an effect on me yeah so you know but yeah, a lot of people feel really insecure and they are around the coming I can be something like you guys.

He can. Yeah, that's kind of be a Normal interaction, right? Yeah well, yeah, it's interesting and probably IT lessons. Once they're actually around you, then there's just a go. Okay.

it's Normal. Yeah yeah. I don't think you can always be funny. My my default is probably funny because it's a way of coping with the chaos and enormity of life and maybe the the fact that a part of what's hard about life in some ways, as you couldn't do everything right, plan everything to the end degree. And I promise you, most likely you will be derailed, ed, because it's just how that happens and it's supposed to happen that way. But the way you can cope with that is too, you know, not taking yourself or IT too seriously.

Yeah, I told great. Yeah yeah. I'm like a big Allen watts fan. You know.

you study the wanta you know here this way I always i'm not a Christian, i'm not a buddesby alan was was always somebody who talked about cultivating the witness, right? So you're not your mind and not your emotions as you're not your body. You are that observer, you know and that sort of so so whatever happens to you, you can actually embrace, don't resist IT.

I love, I love when he said something to the effect of you can improve yourself or the world. That's a hard thing for, especially western people. Tip here because we haven't proved the world, we have manipulated our environment.

But in fact, you know, if you were to come in and try to make everything right in this room and turn everything top side up, there would be a top side down as well. And it's it's a beautiful way of doing IT like the part of you that wants to improve yourself as the one is the part that needs improving. So you're in the circle.

you know yeah so true. Yeah you ever liked to his he is like these great little spotify players where people put like a little five beats to his stuff. So I know I am like a middle age and listening to like self help while i'd listen to music. That's not great.

You know, that's what you get to. I think that you start to realized that accomplishment. And you know, if you whatever the attention and status, what are the things you do know?

When I was fifty three, I think fifty two, I I drew a line through sort of everything that I had come to L. A. To do this kind of cool right as well. I did this, you know.

And you Better be careful when you do that because that it's it's it's not actually when you get to the top of that wall, whenever there is a new percept for yourself, you're going to realize that there's got to be something more know you somehow need something to push against yeah and take away what you have to push against. This is so this a bit tried, right? I've heard this a thousand times blood. I I just I don't know when I think the reach is more important.

Yeah what's come the same thing with money? People go now actually like happiness doesn't increase materially after about five hundred thousand dollars a year in an income. And when I was Young, and I heard that, I thought if I could try, like, let's just see, like, let's see what happens and then you do get, I don't know, I believe the five hundred thousand dollar mark.

Actually I think there's like a few more levels of the game. But um but like you know you can't hear IT until you get there and then you might be able to understand I always like the Allen one thing where is like I don't know why I fucked me up so much. I remember when he talked about how he's like think about life, like music or a song like what if we listen to music and we are just like all the point is like to get to the end of that song that we just want you to get there as fast as possible.

And we go to a concert, and the concert would just be like a coffee of noises until, like as fast as possible that was done. That would be silly, not be so silly. And he's like.

that's how we are in life. He also said, if you if you were to achieve enlightenment, let's say you just work to achieve this thing, this elusive goal called the enlightenment, you'd be right here, right here in the same place. You, nothing would change.

That's an important concept too. yes. So you know, and I think that I think about that a lot. You can make a lot of money good for you. I know people who got a lot of money, and you you will buy a lot of safety and comfort.

And I had this thing is part of what i'm writing about my special what i'm going to should actually rogan play in january so you ve got to come by absolute and and it's about I don't think the garden of eden was um paradise, ed. I think the garden of whedon was a form of hell, which is why there was an apple, which was why there was an escape port, which was that snake and apple. Because I don't think you'd want to be in a garden where nothing could kill you, where nothing the only reason you want to ride a motorcycle really fast as you might fall those all the skin on one side of your body.

sorry. The only reason you rather pat a tiger over a cow is the tiger might turn around and bite your face off. That's excited, right? You know, everything is that wet.

And if you take away that struggle, so know the idea that SHE bit the apple because he was a singer, SHE would probably call IT in escape. You know, get me the battle here, because I need some. I need to not know what's around that corner that's called adventure.

And if you have no adventure, have no fun. And so that kind of and if you make a lot of money, if you do IT all right, and you and you hit every, every marker for yourself. And i'm going to quote my friend who studies in the downs.

He said, you can hit every, every goal you set for yourself and to ruin your kids lives. So and to extrapolate on that, if your kids have never flown commercially, you're probably gonna end a lot of money on rehabs later. Ain't that the bitch? Well, and also, you know.

a lot of times these days, you still see these really successful coronal successful people and their kids are fuck and nightmare. And you're like, how good of a human, or you if you had like sort of one real job in life, which was you brought this person in like that kind of your fault on .

the other .

hard this from somebody was zero.

For kids it's hard because it's the handicap of wealth, right? You know if I grew up, the way I grew was um my father was made some money that labori was he was a banker and things and I grew up over the world and then I grew up in the seventies in the developing world. So I live I was born the Philippines. I lived in india, in cocoa a and bombay. I then moved to lebanon on and then pakistan and then lebanon again, and I was in the world and then we were evacuated degrees and then sad arabia.

Now in that time we also travel to, I don't know, places like mainland china all over africa, the most eastern east africa is relation, say Oliver and and and places like a cim in, but men in china, yemen, um africa, syria, everywhere I went everywhere only the and what I saw yet and what I saw was real poverty, people who are on the losing side of history. But guess what I saw IT from from behind the pain of my of of of an air condition car, the glass of an air condition car. I was I, I was protected by the these united states.

I was in american citizen, a White kind of black hair. And I saw kids my own age begging. I saw what I was in canada.

We were in the countryside, and I gave somebody I hate in my lunch, and we had these box lunches. We're on safar and I gave IT and they they tore, they fought over IT. That's humiliating for me.

You know that because what you what happens is your so embarrassed by by how lucking you are for no reason you're so embrace by attack that I knew even as a kid, I was like, I i've never had my belly empty. And i'm seen real poverty, real. I saw that person and didn't know people.

You have never seen full blown mucking leper's y in a marketplace in damascus. I have I saw that stuff with my own eyes. And when I say that i'm talking about, i'm talking about somebody with no nose and no fingers, with advanced leprosy.

I saw that I walk by that the mizar. I saw people with elephant and highly because they didn't know what to do. So I saw these advanced diseases as a kid.

I, I saw them. I smell IT. I I was right next to IT. And I saw when you walk through a soup, when you walk through a bizarre, and whether it's pakistan or in that, and I was very Young or in syria, or when you are a very Young kid, and nobody gives you context, I remember being, I think I was fourteen, fourteen. I I went, I went to russia.

And as eighteen and I was with my friend, spoke russian, and we were in gorky park. And this, when I was a communist country, everything was monitor, but I stole away. I hold that with this beautiful grown name spent on on there.

Forget to. So her ana friend, eighteen, I got. And like her and friend pristine, that and my friend was was like going I was like, I I there were twenty ration raz story put me in siberia abra.

There was the great test, eighteen years old. I was like, I was incredible bit. But I remember being in gorky park with these russians that they were asked me and russians, my family will interpret.

They asked me, look at our cars. They were, I gave the kid my nikes and my blue jeans. They were like, they couldn't believe IT like was like currency, the same thing with mainland china.

When I was there in one nine hundred and eighty one, I was fourteen, I think. And I remember everyone was in a blue, blue and pants and blue shirt, and they had the same haircut, and they roll on bicycles. Because with mow and the comments, they wanted to get rid of category, right? I saw that stuff.

And so again, you know, you, you, you get to go back to the next stage. You get to go back to whatever you are. We are safe.

We have representative government. We want to worry about knock on the door. You never have to worry about where your foods come. You never have, most importantly, see how humiliating IT is for your mother, your father, to not be able to feed you and the family to not be able to kind of like, even speak their mind. I never had that.

My body was my hero because he was an american, and he was able to say whatever he wanted, and he had money and he was able up. It's like this. The best way to put IT is this.

I grew up in a part of world where you had to forgo who you could be for who you had to be. And i'm quoting deal Cooper now because he said that in a podcast I listen to us. So what I want to create four. But but I thought about that a lot. And that really that that creates a lot guilt to you and a lot of shame, you know, is that I should probably I don't know where we were going with this.

but what do you think it's seen? Because I sometimes think that maybe the reason why we have that whole White privilege movement where we were shaming children for being weight. And in american, yeah I think it's it's really pregnant .

ous not privileged. Ed.

exactly. But but I think that um IT was a little bit based on some of the people have this idea that they're like i've lived this way. I've never had hardship and I don't know. I would be curious to take part of my my thought there is like, I don't know, instead of being guilty and shameful, why don't you do fuck in something with what you got? Like.

did you yeah, I that's how I, that's what i'd never yeah, I mean, I listen what I what I did is I what's good about having his historical perspective and perspective in general as you go? I'm lucky. I get great.

I get to make a living with my imagination. I get, I get to do something called original self expression and make money. I mean, what are you talk and i'm not onna do that. That's why I work so hard. That's why like like, I don't want to die, I think and I didn't mind everything I could this next special, the best fucking thing i've ever done, my life the best and and I can't wait but IT Better be, Better be no, you actually .

have a while like thought i've seen a couple different times that super counter future, which is you don't like discipline. Uh, you prefer inspiration explained like what does that mean and how do you you actually use that? I don't think .

discipline is sustainable. I mean, I know it's sustainable if you're A A, B, C, al, and you have to deal with being uncomfortable for a long period. Nobody can sustain that.

Ultimately, every time I meet somebody, he's really antanas. You find the sales guys, this guy, the sky and care name is base. He's like he's jack and his and all the supplement.

I'm jealous of his body, but but is like, I don't get tired. I do not get tired. I don't talk IT on my hey bro, this atos kicking in right now, I get IT, but good luck with that.

Like stop IT and shut the shut up. Shut up. You know, like you can do that. It's good if you are a Young man and you want to get off your ask and come up with the game plan.

Cool, but once that cain, russia out of all wears down, you're going to have to you success is consistency over a long time. And you Better be inspired. You Better get to to why you're doing IT. why?

How do you how do you get inspired?

Like what does that look like for you? I I always been instant in potential, right? So I wanted know, I love the idea of you don't know what you're capable of.

I use this expression, which is your best self is clearing his throat in the other room. You're right, you're fucking and up over here. But you know you should be doing something else because you could be so much Better over there. You have perfect teeth.

by the way, of thanks really. I love a couple that you never have to that .

but you know that kind of like that should be for all of us like the who are you, who are you really supposed to be right when god, when you get up to have in or wherever IT is and god got your entire life on a piece of a paper like looking at you with that same expression you have dad used to have when you get your report card, I want him to be looking at, you're gone you did your best know you you did a good job or hey, you reached, you know yeah I great on a curve yes.

There is so fun you to say that, because I am obsessed with this ebb omb. That quote have you ever heard of? It's when I stand before god at the end of my days, I hope that I can say to him, I have not one drop left.

I used everything you gave me and that for me, as he is kind of crazy feminist person but he, I the quote totally, a lot of times like you, for example, I mean, god, I was looking to resume the wild. It's like you've acted in all these huge movies like, you know, hang over, hang over to you know, right along. You've done all these incredible TV shows you you've done the full gaming of like acting and then you decided to to get in the comedy, which I I want to talk about two.

But a lot of people who probably say, like. Alright, you could have been good. You made plenty of money.

Doesn't happen as much in hollywell. I feel like people just keep going. Yeah, a lot of times when you make money, they go, why don't you just like.

why nobody makes money? I love this. Most people think my actors are you set yeah and my favorite, like I I could tell you, you have you would be sold on away OK tell. And how many household names have to have less than a million?

Speaking of making money, if you guys haven't picked up the book, main street millionaire that unplanted to write over here, you definitely should. This book is all about how do you get ownership, which I think is the key to all money start really about. Do you want to just only go buy a business? Is how do you become a deal maker and how do you become an owner? Because that is how you get rich.

If you already have a business, you should buy IT. So the U. K. And figure out how to integrate or businesses into your business. If you have a salary, you should buy IT so you can figure out how to actually negotiate upside. And if you won't understand what's going on in our world the day with the big guys win everything and us begging for scraps, you should buy IT in order to read IT to you guys, get a bunch of free downloads with IT if you do this before the book comes out. So get there soon as book to pull .

your mind and be like White yeah. Also, I think there couldn't .

be anything worse than being famous and poor.

There are plenty of out there that's tough. There are plenty .

of so what actually made you go from acting into comedy? Because now netflix, al you, you're on tour right now.

Yes, I mean, I just loved, I mean, you know, i've never been on set where I didn't want you to be over the terrible thing. So really it's acting is like peace meal.

It's just peace meal, man. Like laid out .

like what know you doing IT a page of time. So watch this, watches this. I'm going to do a scene ready less to a scene, our action. Um you guys get my money, my friend, or we're going to have a problem cut, brian.

Can you when you bring the coffee, when you're blocking the light and we get a different light over here because he brought the audience, can you bring IT down and then sweep IT up? Now I got okay, action. We've got a problem.

My friend looks like you will miss some money. Okay, black, can you don't you said, don't say anything because the mikey is getting you settle into the coffee. You can you say, say IT this way and then try to then take a simple more and take a sip because we wanted to save.

But this little alcohol, fuck you, that's all day. That's all day. SHE shadow on her face and also her hair is different.

You see, it's doing this, can we? Yeah, come on. And that's what you do all day and not kidding.

That sounds terrible.

Yeah that's why actors drink.

Yeah so I give .

me the cater hearing.

Why do you think so many people like that then?

Um because it's so hard to get there. You like try and to get there. It's it's not hard to get there, hard to sustain to stay relevant. I think jan said like one no one is in first first chair for more than six years.

It's such a great point. You especially women, I think we're like two and half.

Oh my g when you lose your delicious and you talked about that you won an Oscar. Don't it's adorable. Where is the next Young.

you know and there's so many beautiful women, especially today, like maybe you something you yeah yeah that so it's okay. So you went in to comedy and didn't I think I heard you talk about how joe rogan was one of the people that was like, hey, get in the comedy.

Do I done? I had been doing stand up OK. But then I was acting, and I wanted to be Robert in europe. R, I wanted to be. I wanted to be as I love that I was pretty good at IT like I did a lot of theater and I loved IT and you know, I worked really hard at acting like I was in class three years and really doing plays and theater and and working on scenes. And I just with .

fixture in your like .

dead so like and I took, I took and that, yes, I went the formal theatre school in new york city. I don't revive. I'm atheistic. A in this time is the reason. Speak this way. I drop my my jaw and I am really good to express think myself you know that how you used to speak IT was called the skin technique, of course and and you weren't english but if you ever listen to William bucky or Catherine hepburn, there's something about them that's almost english, right?

That what alan? What is alan? What english? But he .

talks to, if I would actually romance your argument in the real world, was, I would never do, but I will here for a supose. The cameras is like a dude, but that was that, you know, talks that way. And culture SHE still has a little bit because the british and the british um you know if you came up with the may file or that was very in the Christian also i've noticed which i've .

probably get with in trouble for. But now we're doing like a few things. We just signed with an agency for like a bookstore and stuff like nothing fun or or real but um why do all hollywood agents sound the same even if they're like from jersey or fda?

There's like a hollywood agent voice. Have you heard that arca terrible at access. You like they all kind of have like .

a way because they are all originally from new york.

They used to be oh, you think that's why .

typically typically in in member, remember a hollywood was was a jewish invention. Okay, you you know when when people are antisemitic, you know always like that's cool. But you do know that improve, stand up even to a large extent, but certainly improve.

And certainly hollywood, you like movies. IT IT was created and founded by really european, east european jewish refugees. I am so was the whole garment .

industry and knew that.

So there are certain things. So when you were an agent, you were typically like you were a bit of a rebel. Your mother, if you were probably from brooklin and h, your mother said you're going to be you're going to either have your own business, you're going to join your uncle, your father's business, you're going to take you to the next level, you're going to be a lawyer, you're going to be a doctor, there's no, you're not going to a cop, you not irish, not going to put your money in a mattress.

You're not to lying and we're going to put IT into a business you got in most a lot of jewish refugees were um they could sell. They were they were garmented s so that's why they came to new ork. But larger point is that there was um there was if you were a bit of a black sheep, you went to hollywood, try to be an actor, played in a time gangs ster.

You were producer when you realized the acting wasn't where the money was. I was hard to do maybe I can put people together or you became an agent, right? But but certain.

Ly, a lot of the great comics, yeah, know all the sit scissor and rob writer, why would they comics? Because in that culture, in the jewish culture of new york, kids were indulged if you're british. And of the armored cracking, you're seen and not heard one percent.

When you are in in the lower side and your old families crammed into attendant, you're there and you your voice is as loud as any adults. You can talk back to your parents. You can make everybody laugh.

That was the Marks brothers, right? So the larger point of making is that traditionally, the agents that were all in hollywood would you, they were jewish. H, and they all came from kind of the same in part of new york, same ecosystem.

So, you know, yeah, like Robert Evans, and they spoke a certain way that I was just just know there was a way of doing business. There was a language that was really mostly new york people always shock with don trump with the way he he insults people are the way is politically incorrect with his words. That's bucks in new york.

That's that's construction side new york. He doesn't matter that he was a blue blood. He is also irish and with german, so he wasn't necessarily like that british thing. Dad got a hand story.

oh yeah. I mean, if you I was shown retainer of the other day or creative director like thank god we're in the era that we're in now maybe help some a woman and i'm leti that's like a double checkbox but yeah but yeah i'm White presented you know but the is helpful.

I ent female yeah that and White exactly if .

I can do an action, and I would do that. But you know, the stuff that we even say here, because we run a bunch of laundry mats and car washes and roofing companies. So half the time I like of, you know, i'm not supposed to say that anymore.

If that was on the internet, I had been a lot of trouble, which kind of like actually makes me think about, so the other day you can be my therapist. The other day I gave a speech like, doesn't matter leo two. A what up? Not a small, a couple thousand people but and I fuck and bombed IT was like, i've never done that before.

I did a really bad job. I was like over time I I don't even know what happened and like there was no reason really and like a what's interesting is like IT did not matter. Like I wasn't gonna die, nothing mattered.

And but the reaction that I had permit was totally unreasonable. I was like, fuck, I was terrifying, an awful and the worst thing ever. But have you, like, had that happen with .

jokes and stand up? I haven't .

he was never bored, ever. And did I feel awful? Yeah and does IT still?

I mean, i've been doing this so long that I got my bag tricks.

It's not it's an any poll rabbit .

that is not had yeah, it's i'm not gonna ever do an hour where yeah not to laugh yeah was my .

camera was a much .

rephrase that what I made said i'm never going to do an hour where you're not laugh you hard really hard so I can that should be .

your special clip actually we should cut that. I want to do a video for you and do a little instagram alfear special. And I think that are very really good. But in the beginning, like you remember the first time, you really, oh my god.

Oh my god, it's so terrifying. I don't know if if anybody is this how you equated, if you ever been in a real fight like where you don't know who the guys are fun you're going to be like you can feel your legs. I don't come much, you train.

I mean, maybe if you're like a knook cult is stress, you are regular to like me and you going to fight, you can feel your legs, you just know I like I put my went on my back foot, guess here you go, you know, good luck at you had socks. It's the same thing I remember feeling that I remember feeling that was like, I feel like I I mean, about to have a real fight with somebody I don't know, yeah, I don't know is going to kill me. I don't know what I mean yeah feeling of and and then you do IT long enough and that just completely he goes away like I when I shoot my special, I won't be I promise I won't be a little bit nervous. Yeah i'm just interested in hitting every mark, I suppose hitting every .

b yeah when you want .

to say but I want to say and I want to be thematic about and right not that any bill watch IT through because we don't we have tiktok brain now yeah you know but for me I want to that's my diary of what I think is important. What i'm interested in.

it's almost like you can't bomb hard enough for the audience at a certain point because you've got a base level, it's quite good. But for yourself, you're just competing in yourself.

What I would say to you though, maybe the way to avoid that in the future is to really dial down on what you're saying.

Sometimes when we're going not quite sure we get into this gray area and I would IT feels like I didn't see the speech, but IT feels like when that happens, you just take a look at whether or not you've really carved down to its essence what you're trying to say, what is your philosopher? What are your principles behind business that bets you're talking about? What are the mistakes people make, you know and and what are the shortcuts you can give people so they don't have to make the same mistakes? I was, i'm older, right?

So the reason you should listen to me is not because i'm smarter, i'm really not not, i'm not. But I have made more mistakes than you have. And I said i've wasted more time chasing the wrong shit.

So you know, I might I might be able to recognize when you're heading for a wall. And if I tell you to turn the wheel a little bit, just listen to me. I like I don't think we .

actually have enough older people around us as Young people to get feedback .

yeah experiences because .

comics you guys do that like a thing you know you is not really sort of this, but it's not what you mean.

There's an year reference to comedy is not a community as much as more of a it's more about its a really a solo thing you know like I mean, rogan was and I went hunting the first time we ever did media and I just know he was like, hey, this is we're representing the common community and and I said, yeah you know that tighten bunch and he started laughing where the hard as his shoes, like we're hopelessly individual, is taken just a bunch of .

miss fits I say that .

makes people .

that saying it's funny you to say that because I was looking at a study yesterday about um there's a studying japan where people who laughed more frequently a not only lived longer but like significant longer, like twenty thirty percent longer than than their other peer group. And this is a long form study over series of decades but also had a decrease in disability. So less as hymns um less even macular degenerations. So losing of your I thought I was really interesting like laughing good for you. I think we all kind of know that yeah but specifically laughter could have even been individual where you watched something and laughter and but what I thought was also interesting as then you have the flip side, which is there seems to be no increasing happiness for telling jokes only for here in that oh.

that makes total sense, right? Because when you're telling jokes, well, that's why comics are miserable. I'm not, but a lot of comics are I mean because remember um there's a famous actor I want go into because i'm fan but he saw me at a party and he was and i'd mean before but he he wanted to talk to me because I was a comic it's onna cool right now.

I was dating my now wife and and IT was cool to have this very famous person kind of like, you know, approach me and know about and and then what I realized is that, oh, he was using me as essentially an excuse to perform. And yeah, and i'd do that. So now we all have this.

When you're a performer, you have this unflattering shadow side, which is, look at me. I want all the attention. I'm a vacuum cleaner.

I have a lot of that in me, a lot of that in me. And it's not a very admirable trait. And IT truly doesn't make you happy.

IT doesn't make you more happy when you you're looking to be the center of the world. But but you can replace that. You can replace that with trying to be, for lack of a Better word, an artist.

And what does that mean again, doing something original that no one has seen, surprising yourself and that's why that's what I do now. And so then your comment goes from being i'm not saying i'd do this, but assumingly the idea would be i'm of service. Let me let me do something that make you laugh and that feels good.

Man, yeah, that feels good. You're connecting with people and you're making them laugh and you you're doing IT because you can. And as a result, it's because you should. I was put on the earth not to invent rockets, but to be a jackass and get you to forget about your .

life for low bit yeah do you think you think you can be really funny and to be happy IT seems like what .

the comedians are dark and twisted yeah yeah but I don't know you know um I think rogan is very happy no I think a lot of people have IT is depending your personality trade maybe maybe a Better ways that when you are a dark person um there's very little open to you but you cope with just trying to be funny about this brutal thing called life.

You were born you a lot of times shorter than other guys, weaker than other guys, not as athletic in any way. You never had any Victories. You never had women like you.

These these are traumatic things for men to go through when when you're an adolescent and stuff. But, but, but, but you're funny, right? You're funny.

And and and now you get like the cool kids think you're great and that you get to dick into that because you're accepted. So that's where a lot of comedy comes from. For me, other incomes dy came from being moved constantly.

I was always thrown into a whole different set of kids. I would know, hey, we're moving into satiable, ia, but I have a dog. I've been here for two years.

And yeah, now you you figured IT out we're moving eleven on, I know, but I have another and I have a snake. Where we going to do add that we find a home, right? But no email.

No, no, 拜拜。 yeah. And here's a new group of kids in the midst of the school year. And I learned very quickly that don't be the last guy picked on team, be a little bit that was coordinated and enough to be, you know, not not a hinderance on a sports team.

And also, I was, but but I was, I was just, I got good at making people laugh quickly, and I got really good reading what people were ashamed of and what they were proud of. That my, that was my superpower, my community superpower, if I made, is, is I was really good at figuring out what people were ashamed of. We all have a sight of us that we hardly that is that we're proud of. And I think if you want to get in, if you want to, if you want people like you and if you want people so comfortable and and you you you help them hide with their ashamed of but you essentially and you highlight and you speak out what IT is there proud of and we're all that way as human beings that's so good.

You know, it's funny because that it's true. Like we have this, we have this install movement in the U. S. Now we got read to study the other day that we have fifty five percent more single women from two thousand to two thousand twenty three.

And then, of course, that makes sense, sort of what's happening even politically in our country, because they vote predominant democrat, and men increasing of their age vote conservative or republican. And the women increasingly don't want to actually date those who have the different uh, perspective, which is very silly to me. But what I think is really interesting is this insel movement is a lot about tinder.

I mean, my friends was shown rta like a lot the guy who created tinder, but we were talking to other I am like fog man. I mean, the APP is inherently swipe, swipe, visual, visual. And like, what have you've .

done and that you're not over six b? Yeah no, there's all these weird things. So ten percent or five percent of the men get all the .

girl yeah it's a bit bizarre and so I think actually be really interesting to have more of like a comedians perspective on for Young men like, yeah, okay, you're not rich. You're not may be smarter than everybody else. You're not Better looking but fuck me if you can make somebody laugh, we show one.

You can make them live longer. Two and makes them happier and three. I met a lot more chicks like you.

Yeah but you know what um manner terrified this fourth wave feminism and has gone from fighting for equal rights to I wanna kill in rapid and so um that with social media a woman can say anything and I know so many Young my relatives who who are living in a world where they're very rare that they could do something in college and somebody doesn't have a good experience with them sexually more intimately and ten years later, fifteen years later, twenty years later, they say X, Y and z, they get a story.

What do you get statement? But you're done and you're done and they're very aware of that. So there's a lot of that too.

There's there has men, women have been pitted against each other in this IT was already IT was always and already adversarial in the united states IT was always IT was always adversarial IT was always like, you know, there was this thing where boys and girls separate almost voluntarily at six years old. And they don't really come together until college. So when you're in college of the rope now you're living with a girl.

A woman are a you know, a girl and you're a boy or you're a man. But typically as a boy and a girl and you're living with somebody and you have been around guys your whole life and he has a different consideration and you think she's crazy and SHE thinks you're insensitive and it's like you have no there's no mechanism and there's no bridge in which to work IT out. You can go to a therapies, but I think in therapies, guys aren't taught that.

And and the a therapies, it's like stop being crazy that tell you, right, you're not given those tools. And I remember my my girlfriend fell left during raging bull, my favorite movie, and I was like, so outrage then, how involved the great movie? I'd broke up with her.

I was like, you can appreciate reason he. Dh, done that. Now, of course, in fifty seven, my wife was watching and my wife smarten Grace. And I love her, but she's my person, but she's watching. Love is blind and can't get enough of you getting all I like art jesus, you know I can't watch one minute that I should but but it's just what she's interested and i'm interested in in stats when IT comes to fighting or we see or or or I don't know in football yeah which is different.

totally different yeah yeah I think one of the things that saved Chris, my marriages um we've sort of allowed each other to not give a fuck about what the other person talking about. And so if at a certain point he's telling me a story that I literally couldn't care less, then I just go, yeah so we are to like the first episode, ssp girl really got me because he was wearing and so and then held to the opposite to me.

But I was cleaning the block. And what happened is the hammer partners like fucking, I don't care. Fine okay? And we just have a little joke because IT doesn't mean that I love you. I just literally couldn't care less about that thing you're talking about.

which should be fine.

by the way. Thank god. Thank god. Yeah, because also, I mean, I love hanging out with my person and that sounds like you do too. You got also, I have some girl time.

Have some due time. Well, my wife, i'll tell me about our dream. Now, if I did that with a body of time, you like, hey, Brown is this extreme to tell me about, know, like the other day he was telling me a story, i'm not this and she's that and eis going on.

I'm like, i'm trying to something out and and then and then this this like, ship comes down and I go, are you tell me about a dreams I guys you said about, i'm trying to say, yeah, I know i'm not listening. You've got to dream nothing happened a dream what need to check? I just trying to do something a pen bills I have there. You take twenty minutes.

And to be fair, to be fair, I have a friend shot of china. SHE always tells me about her dreams. I also don't care about the dream. I think we need .

a moratorium under you present me.

I know that I meet, I know. But I think yeah no, I think we've gone to into talking about ourselves sometimes not that china does that, but the dream thing is funny. Okay, I want to talk about one other thing like that's a little bit about this.

You know we about when we are first like going to do the pod today there is a weird week, right? We've got like we've got trump on rogan. We've got you on rogan next today we had, I was A I watch talker.

Carson had robt neider come out before him, uh huh and and then I saw Andrew shultz had trump. Like, what is going on with comedians? And like, are they the new voice of reason? When did this happen? You've been in this game a long time. And no, a bunch of these guys, I never would have predicted this .

like ten years ago. Well, trump has a Young sun, barren and barren. S very key into what's cool and barren is a guy. Look at me.

Is dad going to have dad? You want to get Young people get on. The of on that was, get on, get on. You know, get on. Uh joe rogan, get on all the podcast I listen to and that's what's going on is is and to trumps credit and you know he's he he he's comfortable among the brows and you can say what you want about brow comics and brow podcasts, but that's that's what men are are listening to and they're listening to IT because it's um a lot for all. It's also long form.

So when you hear trump talk for three hours, a berny center off for three hours or whatever might be for three hours, you not only get a very different perspective on who this person is, because you will settle, you can't sell for three hours, end up settling into who you really are. And that's a very, very different and new thing. And so your celebrity and your shine is no good here.

My friend and IT used to be forever that when we saw a celebrity, whoever IT was, they were on john y. Carson or condo brian or ja leno for five minutes, and the questions were prepared. And you can be mysterious, you can be dyed up and answer very few questions and dressed like a pyrot.

We're like, he's so cool and hollowed. Wood was a mystery, and everything was a mystery, and how they keep their bodies that way was a mystery. And then along comes, you know, the internet and cameras everywhere, and all of that, all that persae goes away.

All of the sudden, all of that seen and you got got like rock who is not selling you anything? He's just talking and he's not interviewing you. He's just having a conversation with you.

And we get a sense of who you really are when you're just sitting around. And I thinks very telling the commonly Harris wasn't willing to do and I understands he thinks hostile territory. And I think IT is and I understands that shit. He feels like he's by walking into a no win situation because rogan can ask you questions and he's and he's going to be .

right and it's good .

and he's smart and and she's just not comfortable there. Yeah and and but I think that was a mistake because if he had SHE had if he if he had SAT down for three hours and spoken from the heart and really told us what he thinks, really told us what he really thinks about the border, what he really thinks about the economy, what he really thinks about fracking. Know what you really thinks about about taxes.

How much of the federal government should you be working for everyday? What percentage? What percent? Fifty percent is out there? How many people? You know, one percent of the population pays over fifty percent of the taxes like that ten percent pay ninety percent.

You know, i'd like to hear these conversations, but you're still trying to sell a concept like joy to the american people that we are trying to do. You think we're that dumb? What you're doing open when open is like joy.

You know, I really, I really, I really want to be like you're Better than that your lying toss yeah and it's not about it's not about trumper compares, but you you're not being respectful, which is another way of saying you're not representing us because you don't think we're worth IT and more importantly, you think we're dumb. The average american and I am an average america. I got i'm a capital.

I have a business. I have to, if I don't put butts in my seats, when I go out and just stand up. I got a problem.

I got a problem, real problem. I, I pay for IT OK. And most of us, as the americans, can we pay? We pay a Price for being wrong. If I miscalculate, if I have a business, I pay a real polite Price. So I live in a world of objective reality.

And when you don't, and when you start talking me about concepts like joy, when you start talking me about the problem that says that were racist and trans phobic and homophobic, when you say that somebody trying to run a business or trying to put their kids through school, or just trying to make enough money so the kids can do the after school baseball program, all of us go, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know where you live because you live in an area code I can't afford anyway. You don't pay a Price for being wrong.

You make your living with your mouth. My talking and i'm up early men. And I don't see this.

I don't see that america. I'm trying to get food out on the table for my customers. And I don't care if you need gender neutral bathrooms.

What are you talking about? I really think about that stuff. I have no idea what what you're talking about. I ve been going to my daughters baseball, I mean, my daughters the cross games or tennis games, whatever the thought sport is.

I've been going to hard games, the airport since he was the seven years old, trying to get our scholarships I can afford IT. And you want to put men in there. You want to put biological men who can come in and and shadow records and get those scholarships.

You want to do that to me after I got a mom and i've taken my kids to fuck you, fuck you, you're not an american. You I got a real human being. You're you're talking to me from some your philosophy kings.

You're talking to me from the belt way. You're talking to me from from silicon valley. I didn't know who you are, men. I don't even know who you are. You even you have so much money is ridiculous.

So is IT a wonder? Is IT a wonder that most of us are are a little bit suspicious, a little bit feel, a little bit to none unrepresented by that machine over there called the left way? IT has nothing to do.

It's not saying that that democrats, traditional democrat, don't have something to offer. IT doesn't mean i'm a far right guy. I'm not IT just means i'd like a little objective reality here. Man, that's so true. Well, I think that's .

one of the problems with getting too much cashes. I think that it's wrong that we don't talk about money. I think we got to talk about money more because money is really just one thing. It's just I get to sert my will more on you and you get to assert that less on me. The more I have on IT, the more I pushed back on the world and I create my own reality with the slight .

Green piece of paper.

And that is IT. And for some reason, as we get richer. We don't talk about money anymore. So OK to talk about money anymore.

In fact, it's like scammy and low brow and whatever know it's what can not you think it's that way? Because if you if you can get people to believe that we shouldn't share the only thing that actually creates a protective measure of freedom, and then we have less of IT, which is where around today. And so I remember when I first got on the internet, I was like, I don't know.

I have, do you make some money? You don't really want to talk about IT. I mean, hollywood, a perfect example. Nobody ever talks about money in hollywood. They don't talk about how much they make.

They don't talk about what they are most of the time, actually, they just try to make themselves look Normal again. They're just like, remember back when I still Candy about like you have an eat mccane bar and thirty seventy, like you did know what? That's not even a real thing anymore and and and that's okay that is not real awesome that you transcended that somehow but like I never really likes .

that which kind of the american republics cool and very unique in the sense that we you can grow IT and you can show IT off. You know, we don't they said, do you think that mitt romney? Do you think MIT romney? It's, it's, it's a liability that he's so rich, he's not rich.

I'm rich. And the reason in americans that the difference is the american experiment is is beautiful because when the reason we don't have pitchforks outside and the the rich don't get you guilty the linch is because every american knows that they too could one day be a millionaire. There's a potential, potential to be a millionaire. E is huge in the american spirit. It's A A large part of the glue that keeps this republic working.

You're right. Do you know the percentage of millionaire are self made in U. S.

Seventy nine percent, which you would never sell the news, right? Seventy nine percent. And I think that's a really good reminder. And also they don't think can stay there, which is a perfect point about being in business because most small business, others ninety percent of our cash, is that our business we don't even know, you know not roll on around and and also like people get mad about, no.

that's what I said. I know people who have a billion, the huge man, it's all wrapped up in stock.

Oh, one hundred percent. And you know and one of my team members always joked, as you know, you come on this podcast and like, what's the thing that you've spent the most amount money on ever you ever get out like washing? Yeah and and I just I didn't jokingly I said IT just accidentally. I love the first time, but I was like people and I like I don't mean at that way but like I just you and pire more people in business because that's how you make a business grow .

yeah and like I think that's the real answer for most .

people is probably reasonable that I have well, I want to talk about making money in comedy. So like I went to a comedy show the other day at the comedy store and I and IT was incredible. IT was like, they're like maybe like ti comics that went through kind of rapidly witness commons is there was there who was like a big name? I like her a lot.

And the bunch of all the ones, I can't remember all the names, but a couple of other big names. And I was, I don't know, maybe like a two hour show, I guess, and sixty people in the audience. And I am doing the math. I'm like, no boy's making .

any different money how we? So I E when the coming has .

to go there for fifty. She's not doing for you.

doing just to stay sharp. You so .

take a.

you come my OK.

So how does .

that work? You charge to turn amount for tickets, you get the door or you get guarantee, you get upside the door or you're going to piece the alcohol sales and IT just all depends on higher agent works IT. And if you can sell a theater twice in a night, you'll make a .

lot of money, define a lot. So like in in so the .

ethics that you the big comic um are making twenty thirty million year on .

touring or on everything on touring. And that's because they're doing like .

I don't know, fifty.

sixty and a on night OK, but it's not just from ticket sales, they get a percentage of .

alcohol and think sixty five million not a deal or something like that with a live nation.

something like that. But also he is guaranteeing .

that people there are especially a lot of women like love.

do a great demographic too.

But a great guy is hard, really respectful. I know message was seventeen kids and kids working as as off .

any incredible social media.

It's just that he he's just he never always was. He's just A K. Do you know he's he's just his a beautiful looking human being. But math also a guy who is he's also a good guy who really wants to be good at comedy and works really hard at IT and something just hit.

And then a lot of people, a lot of Young girls were like, I, A lot of women in general, or like, I want his delicious, he's delicious and funny. And I want to be, I have just want to go see him like a rock star. What they say, yeah, too constant naturally.

Yeah, I haven't done my hair. I haven't my hair. I'm getting i'm going to get a heart translate.

why? Because it's free. Because somebody e's paying for IT seriously. Yep, and it's i'm going to twenty five hundred grams so you think i'm hot now I cannot wait to I come in and i'm going to be like that. Yes, and i'm going to get my face hide.

And yes, i'm not i'm not done and then i'm going to get i'm i'm finally going to go and test astro and maybe some anibal or dana. I don't know I don't know the names, the steroid and know this my skinny, tight vanience pock i'm a shave and i'm in a ten and i'm coming in here and I would be in a tantot and i'm going to tatooed. I don't have one tattoo, but i'm getting this name is broadcast .

the big deal yeah, the big deal.

That actually tracks right of my kids. But you know, I can all read IT because of all the fog game. Give its all the give its, I hope you read brail. How is you are funny?

I think we should go to this special. okay? So you don't make a tony money in comedy unless you're doing to ship tn us up.

S, do you make money? I make money in economy.

doing tourists though, like you can really make IT anywhere. I like where else special? You can make money on a special. No.

that's that's in commercial.

Wow.

interesting for you to no pay sometimes. But this not where people are making their real money. interesting. It's just like music.

Like so you have to Taylor's with that you're got to have like this whole ecosystem around.

Je met her a long time ago, one time, and he had just come off a tour. And I was at three hundred and sixty five day tour. And man, that he was on a bus or a private plane, I think literally every night.

I mean, they would come and play tokyo for three days, and then then they go on current london. Are they just doing this? This word? But I mean, it's crazy .

really. You know what? IT kills me with others. With that, I am most impressed about that he can make that surprised to face every single time SHE goes on tour for like twenty five years .

and I still buy IT. Yeah, I know she's special human being. Yeah, that's next either.

So you don't do the same jokes like how does how does that work? Like from for total Normal you Carry like a .

joke clock round and then you funny up doing writing. For me it's a mindset you're always writing but if I am doing A A show like so i'm going to shoot this special in january and then and then the hour sets in because now I have to like, write a whole new hour. I thought IT all away and it's like so difficult not to repeat yourself and so difficult not to be kind of on the same theme is so difficult not it's is so hard so i'll go to six months of misery and maybe a year of writers block and feel like a PC shit and and not like myself and all that just told standard, standard shall I .

would like what's a year out of me? I often do you a special?

Probably two of three years. Okay, three is two years. Is like that enough time for me? I got, you know, I went right pretty fast before to let IT really settle in. Yeah, I just doing this.

Like this is going to be, I don't know since man tears, I don't know, almost, almost almost three years, maybe it's two years. Why are you? I don't know but man on then and it's everything talk about like every drop.

It's like it's everything I can do was my best. It's the best. I can do the best.

And you get only one shot to you from the film.

three to .

chop on together .

like the best. I bet that's not hard. Shooting is not hard.

It's just that it's then I have then I have to be like I got to write new jokes, new. I had to be seat matic. Good luck. Yeah, just want to quit now.

It's going to be great. OK are way to see IT um what about how like kind of technically and maybe this isn't how IT works, but how you start thinking about being funny like how does one become funny?

I don't think you have to you think about being funny. I think you have to you have to um do something very different. I think I believe you start with personal questions.

What am I afraid of? Who am I pretending to be? Who do I want to be? Who am I really? How do I want to to die? How do I not want to die? What do I want to say before I die? What do I want to think right before I die? what? What would I regret before I die? You know, what do I honestly reveal? You know, what am I really afraid of? What am I pretending? I'm afraid of getting those questions as personal questions. And um I I think that anybody who write anything, whether it's music or it's um a movie or anything, is you're trying to answer a primary question. You're restful with a question.

My obsession has been, what is a man? What is courage? What is what is masculine ity? How do you defind IT am I provider in a protector? What does that really mean and and what is courage and what is toughness? And all these things that I ve grew up, china be what? What is real strength? What is IT? And those the obsessions i've always had and I tried to write about, and you know, is for me, they find, they find their way in a funny to funny channels.

Yeah, but, you know, think about, so what's a book when you read a novel? You know, the great novels. I mean, the theme of any novels is so the theme that we need to find theme is, is essentially the author's argument for how to behave .

in the world.

You know, yeah, IT is, IT is. And so I think that, Frankly, my special is that way. You know that I hope, I hope it's, I hope it's, I hope theoretic, that I get what I want to say across, yeah you know .

and so you actually stuck. And maybe that's why so often comics these days are a little bit like philosophers because you're starting from really russians.

You do when you're Younger, you you're trying to just be funny. It's english on a ball. But but what does that mean? That's that that's a pool expression. I stole that from rogan but it's a it's a pool expression like you could spin on the ball but IT doesn't an you can run a table in a great pool player and you're good trick shots .

yeah you're like the hard to the version of the sports and log .

look O O K so that that then you get older and you want to say something right I guess .

I sort of even like you watch the evolution of a dave shapely. And like today, you know, I remember we got to sit down and watch him and rogan when he was doing IT here during coffee, which I felt really special because the world was so shut down. But I I remember sitting there thinking, the most interesting part of this is not that we're laughing, although there is laughter, it's like the command of big questions, and like watching one human really deeply dive into IT life.

I I was watching dave. I was washing dave and tiny shows in new york. Yes, twenty thirty years.

Interesting, did you know?

Then can you .

tell that somebody is going to be great when you first see them? No um yeah .

in a way you can. Certainly something is going to be successful. Success is a mindset that you're probably a partially born with. Rogan was going to be successful no matter what. He was up bulldog, but part of its also growing ing up.

How did you grow up? Did you grow without a dad? Where the world was really dangerous new? And to fight out how to navigate the world, was your heart broken at a very early age? And you realized nobody was coming, and he was all up to you with fifty cent.

You you had no one to go home to. And then you got shut nine times. You bled all your fear out in the back of that cab.

Know, who were you? When did you meet chaos? You know, a great deal of world leaders lost almost animal, some crazy presentation of them lost at least one parent before they is twelve, usually two. And if you're taught had to navigate that, you're taught had to navigate loss or you have some kind, you have the reserves or maybe the imagination, maybe you required to to deal with that, maybe you'd to a stronger seawall.

Um you you'll come out you know much stronger, I think was need you said if I have children, if I ever had children, I would wish upon them deprivation and loss and uncertainty because that's the only way you kind of become a fully realized human being. And if if IT visits you Young enough, as tragic as IT is, if someone is there to help you, if you can find one outlet, we learn how to accomplish something. You learn how to be good at IT. You're can always Carry that baggage, but IT makes for strong piece of steel. Yeah i've never actually .

met a successful human who has has been through something that almost literally destroyed them. That's right. I think that that's .

track that's an important thing as my you know. Um if something really bad happened to, uh, just keep moving forward because IT IT may be the best thing that ever happened to you when you look back on IT or not aren't as awful as IT is. You may if you have a gunless tear head, if you do IT right and you keep moving forward, you will probably save much.

I know you won't believe me now, if you're going to and now, but your Price, I wouldn't have changed IT. IT saved my soul. IT saved my and I know that's dramatic, but I believe IT, I get a little .

child on that one. I think that's true.

That's because i'm bringing my first down and i'm looking at the camera. I'm saying IT in the air and I didn't use gasoline helper. Do you have that whisper?

Because I have I got a great deal of of a shouted, my first star. I do. I know really. I put everyone to state over.

let's end with with this one. I found a rather high number of videos of you o and brennan job physically fighting online. What's the deal of that?

Because brain needs to learn. He needs to learn and I don't like sometimes that he's disrespectful. And i'm older and I come at him, I come out and sometimes as A, I guess a babboon that's that's british for babboon.

I got to fight the bear and a babboon let's call me a dog. Dog is never onna beat a, but a dog can take the fight to the bear and just giving the what four and in the dog's heart as he's being crushed. He knows at least at least he had the balls to jump into the mall, into the bell of the beast and part of its just like us.

And as I like to feel what is like to be killed by grown man that easily, because he keeps me in check lunch, you have no idea. You have no idea. You know, it's it's he had this recent thing with ideas.

I like, mate, know that but you know they you you have to understand that brennan is a heavy way and brennan walks around at two fifty, but a lot of times to sixty there's not a lot of fat on him. His bam, pam, he's about as strong as your average gola. A okay, and he's a shit black on judge to okay.

And i've seen him tap the most famous people you can imagine. I've seen him tap with these olympians. I've seen him crush very famous fighter ers, very famous, and they're all two hundred plus pounds.

S i've seen IT with my own eyes, okay, many times he never talks about IT, but have seen IT. I seen IT. So if you are under a heavy weight and you're spin off, just know that he's a bear and there's the time where he's GTA grab you.

Now have I have, he was, if taking in that one time, I got, I jumped on. I put him in A D juda A D shoot. I had my hips out.

I had, I had a gable grip. I had him here. I had a pinched deep, and I had him right here.

And I was like, say something, say IT. I mean, you not get out of that. Look at this. Look at that right there.

I wish you guys could see what i'm working with because this that I got chripp strength right there. I'm here. I'm pulling tide. I've got his head and ARM and you're not go in anywhere. And all he does is the giggles and then the current shot. And then reality goes like that on me and all the so now I am I mean, i'm basically i'm i'm in a position that you don't i'm basically his bitch. Oh.

so I special january when we get you're like number one netflix spot ah maybe that needs to be the end of the show just you and brand and stage friday. And done downs .

with him and and I got a confusion on my ear. This side of my place was red for about eleven days. right? right? Work going to all person. I still do judge to. I roll the other day with a bunch twenty something I couldn't look left for like ten days.

It's like after you work out .

with tim Kitty OK, I tried. I tried the grapple with tim on a beach in the south of france. Very romantic.

And he, I just member, be on on all force. And he was on top of me, on top of me. And he are very appropriately drew a heart in the sun, control legs.

And I say, you talk about grazie eyes and odd about the time, but he eyes those like just dark shark guys.

You, he'll take your head, yes, but smile time like you back here .

and also my one of my favorite .

people on the plant.

All right, brian. Colin, thank you so much for being here today. I can't wait to see the special.

I can't wait. You're on tour. So um i'm going to definitely come to a .

few of those and on going well.

you can tell me when you want to do .

and we are Brown count down one hundred percent and they should .

I go to interview first and follow because there's some historical video. So you're also further you want my.