6/10/25: Trump Sends Marines To LA, Poll Shows Immigration Trump's Best Issue
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Good morning, everybody. Happy Tuesday. We have an amazing show for everybody today. Bro show. Dad show, actually. Can we call it? Not dad show. I was telling Ryan before, how this guy had four of them, I have no idea, including twins. I was like, comforting and taking care of one screaming child is enough. But to have two of them there at the same time, they're on different crying schedules and feeding schedules. I think I would actually lose my entire mind.

I have so much more respect for you right now. I was thinking I can't wait to go toe-to-toe with Sagar because he's going to be so depleted. I said yesterday. Playing in the NBA, one team has played like four games in five nights. That's Sagar right now. Last night we had a screamer on our hands. I'm just running circles around him. No, I said yesterday. I said any bad take that I have for the next year, you can just blame it on sleep deprivation and me being— I tweeted out my health statistics yesterday, by the way. I saw that. That was hilarious. A lot of people enjoyed that.

that. By the way, it's all worth it. I don't care. But it is funny. All right. So let's go ahead and see what we have in the show today. Let me in the show bar. All right. This is the tough part of the show. Los Angeles. We're going to talk about some of the overnight developments there. The big top line news is President Donald Trump mobilizing several hundred United States Marines active duty service members, sending him to Los Angeles for some sort of law enforcement support mission. Still a lot of questions.

surrounding that. We're going to show you some of the video and other things, clashes breaking out between LAPD, between protesters last night. There was some looting as well. So we'll show everybody some of the images. We're going to talk about a little bit of polling. I teased that yesterday. There's been some CBS News widespread polling about Donald Trump and immigration. This is a big segment of our discussion yesterday with Crystal over the popularity of Trump's program and also just broadly why a lot of this fight is being picked right

right now. We're gonna talk about Palantir. This is a story that I missed, but Ryan, you're really gonna be driving this one. This is Laura Loomer is getting involved. Tim Dillon is alleging that there's widespread buying off of influencers regarding Palantir. Yeah, he really is the George Carlin. I think he's the George Carlin of our generation. I said that yesterday.

China, we're going to give everybody, and I know this is flying under the radar, but it's tremendously important. United States and China negotiators met in London yesterday just for the second round of trade talks. Everybody's basically on pins and needles on what the hell is going to happen here. The tariffs were off while I was gone. Thank you, President Trump, for removing the crisis that you caused. Many car seat owners, however, have not yet. Shocker, right? You will be shocked to learn that car seat prices, stroller prices, and all that did not go down, even though the tariffs went up. I thought we were going to reshore our-

our stroller manufacturing. 99% of car seats are made in China. Do you know that? 99%. I think I might have guessed that. Safety. And also, you know, another thing I learned recently is, you know, these car seats don't even last that long. You can't donate them, right? Like, because people, and look, maybe I'm, maybe, I think this is too safetyist, but like, you can't donate a car seat. I mean, if you're in a car wreck, that's one thing, but if you have a perfectly good car seat, you really can't give it to somebody, you know? I think that's nuts.

It's corporate nonsense. Sorry. I think it's crazy. I'm sure I'm going to have parenting Twitter and all those people coming after me. I get it. I get it. I just – I think it's wrong. No, most parents agree with you. Okay, good. I'm glad they do. All right. The only reason not to want to use car seat is because they shit all over them, but that's a whole other story.

You can tell the things that are happening in my life. Theo Vaughn, this is a segment we unfortunately were not able to get to yesterday. We had our Gaza Flotilla guest, and of course we wanted to prioritize that and talk about that. So there's going to be a couple of clips that we want to talk about from Theo Vaughn and J.D. Vance, appearance that came over the weekend, some interesting moments in particular. The DNC, I'm really excited for Ryan to break some of this down for me because the DNC is just –

I mean, I know it's fun to dunk on them, but it's pathetic at this point. You know, they've got this new YouTube show, and we'll show you how many views it got. It's about how many views we get every, you know, five minutes or so around here total. But, you know, what's even more pathetic is their leadership, is the guy now who's basically quiet quitting his job, the new DNC chair. We're going to talk about Taco. I missed Taco Trump. I just have to opine on that at some point. And then, Ryan, you've got some great –

Got some great reporting on Israel, which I'm very excited for. Updates from the region. Yeah. But of course, we've got to start the show with Justin Baldoni's lawsuit getting dismissed. You know, I'm usually pretty into pop culture, but I really could not tell you because I feel like things switched every once. Like people are, the internet was on Blake Lively's side. And then there was like a countersuit with voice memos. And then the internet was on Justin Baldoni's side. But now this is-

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Extraordinary news there, Ryan, out of Los Angeles from President Trump. You know, it's actually a little bit crazy because literally moments before that announcement was made, Trump had actually given a statement where he had, I wouldn't say it ruled out per se, sending in the Marines, but he's like, I think that we have it more under control. I have a few more details that I can say. So it's a little complicated the way this is being done. Trump has not invoked the Insurrection Act. So this is from U.S. Northern Command.

They say they have, quote, activated the Marine Infantry Battalion that was placed in an alert status over the weekend. 700 Marines of 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines, 1st Marine Division will seamlessly integrate with the Title X forces under Task Force 51 who are protecting federal personnel and property in the greater Los Angeles area. The activation of the Marines is intended to provide Task Force 51 with the adequate

So, effective

Actively, what they are saying is that these 700 active duty Marines are being placed under the same Task Force 51, which is basically now comprised of the 2,100 National Guardsmen that were mobilized by Trump previously, as well as these 700 Marines basically to supplement that mission. It does not appear from what I can see in front of me is that they will be, quote, trained. They have been trained in de-escalation, crowd control, and standing rules for the use of force.

that are similar under the National Guardsmen. Effectively, it's like using active duty soldiers as National Guardsmen here.

in the fort. I'm not trying to downplay it. I'm just genuinely confused because this is such an extraordinary situation. I mean, I actually cannot think really of the last time that active duty U.S. military members were actually deployed, you know, without the consent and actually the, uh, without the, not only the consent, but like the invitation of the governor of a state that was already pretty extraordinary, not happened since 1965 under, um, uh, under, uh, LBJ. And so this time around, I mean, it is difficult to contextualize the Marines have not yet

We don't really know what they're doing. But the image, nonetheless, is going to be, I mean, it's shocking. It's a shocking development here from Donald, especially considering, I mean, we will show people video from last night. But, I mean, by all accounts, it does not appear to have been worse than the previous two days of some of the rioting and the protesting that was happening in Los Angeles. Yeah, it's less. Yeah.

Yeah, and maybe they're like planning their amphibious landing on Venice Beach or whatever to like wind up in downtown Los Angeles. Let's start with A4 before we get into some of the other images. A4, this is Gavin Newsom saying that he's going to sue the federal government for –

On the other hand, you could say that this is, you know, goes to the fundamental nature of power sharing between the states and the federal government. He calls it, quote, an unprecedented power grab. He argues multiple things. One, he says getting the National Guard deployed was invalid because there is no insurrection. There is no rebellion. It's just a protest. And that's

It's not the kind of protest that the cops haven't been able to handle over many decades and over the history of the United States. And he also says that the law requires that you work with the governor and that the governor be the one that deploys the National Guard. And that's not just paperwork because what it does is it requires –

the buy-in of both entities. It keeps everyone together. If the government writ large is defined by its monopolization of the use of force, if you now have a duopoly where you've got National Guard, you've got some members over here who are responsible to this state actor, and then you've got another state actor that also has men and women under arms, and you're sending them into the same streets,

You know, that's not how this is envisioned to go. Yeah, so, you know, as you said, with some of the images, let's go ahead and put some of these up there on the screen. I'll just kind of narrate kind of what we see here. This is just some collated footage that we see. I want everybody to keep in mind that everything you're seeing here is LAPD, who, as I said yesterday, I mean, look, LAPD,

I think one of the distinguishing characteristics between this and BLM is that I said previously, I don't think that Democratic leaders are like really justifying a lot of this going on right now. In fact, you know, LAPD, as you can all see, is like pretty ready to rock and roll from what we see right now.

Right now, I mean, the justification appears to be that this would free up LAPD resources, but you can see here right now, you know, this was after I believe that there was like a declared unlawful assembly yesterday. People are not heeding Crystal's warning and they do continue to wave Mexican flags there in the streets.

of Los Angeles. Here we had some looting at several retail establishments. Of course, people very, very upset over immigration detention, just like they were over George Floyd, which is why Apple stores and Adidas rep places have to be looted. But as you can see in front of you, there are several...

and other things that have taken place. That does look like police. This is another thing which is so difficult to distinguish when the police start to gear up in military camo. This is something that goes all the way back to Ferguson with the militarization of a lot of American police forces, like when you literally can't even tell and you have to look at the shield as to what it is. We shouldn't overplay it either. There were a lot of peaceful protests that happened in the streets of Los Angeles. As you can see in front of you, there were marches that happened.

in some of the streets as well as across the United States and several different pockets around that was happening. This is getting quite a bit of attention. These were some images that were tweeted out by Governor Gavin Newsom of National Guardsmen who were sleeping on the floor. This was Governor Newsom's critique here saying that Trump basically sent the National Guard in without proper planning.

And without proper planning or resources, it is funny because – not funny for the people who went to sleep on the floor. That's terrible. But actually I do remember that this was a similar controversy here in Washington after the January 6th riots. If you remember, we were living in the green zone, Ryan, after January 6th here in Washington. And I distinctly remember walking by parking garages and just seeing like a thousand guys sleeping on the floor in January in a park – yeah, cold concrete in January.

They were definitely here for what exactly? So because of a QAnon riot? I feel kind of similarly about this. I mean there's no real reason, at least in my opinion, outside of optics about we will get to the polling for a lot of this. But I mean I think it fits with a lot of the Trump administration strategy, inviting fights over basically extraordinary uses of

of power. And in this particular case, trying to pick a fight where he does believe he feels strongest politically. And part of the reason for that is we talked a lot about this yesterday. I'm

I think it's really important to contextualize what's happening in Los Angeles, but it's also important to contextualize that probably 90% of the country has never been to Los Angeles, maybe even 95% of the country. So when you are in Pittsburgh or Detroit or Georgia or Charlotte, North Carolina, any of these places, you don't know anything about L.A.,

All you're watching is the video about what's happening over there. And with images like this, regardless of whether you're watching CNN, Fox, or anything, you're going to be seeing the Mexican flag. You're going to be seeing some of the—or if you're on social media, you're going to be seeing some of the looting. You may even be seeing some of the peaceful protesting and all of that as well. But you are going to get the impression that things are really hot and on fire in the city. And that means that drawing attention to that and then the conflagration surrounding it at a national level is really one that Donald Trump is inviting.

And there's a bunch of discussion kind of in the center left around the question of how smart are the protests for Democrats or how smart are the protests for opposition to Trump, which ignores the fact that it doesn't matter what anybody thinks. Like, this is not a centralized debate.

Well, you should speak on that because there is actually a lot of right-wingers who do believe that this is like massively – by the way, I've always found that incredibly stupid. Like there's this theory in the right that every left-wing protest is like organized and supported by NGOs. Now, I won't deny that these people don't have email lists or whatever or bust people in or any of that.

But I mean, I was living here in the city during BLM. I can pretty much just guarantee you that it wasn't because of organization. I mean, I think it was like, again, literally people being at home, mass psychosis, just believing in this cause. Whatever, fine. We've litigated that today. My point, though, is that I don't think anybody forced my white liberal neighbors to all go out into the streets and protest for BLM. They went because they were upset. I think people are upset here, too.

I think it's fine. You know, we live in a democracy. Right. And the different groups that get tagged as being central to these protests happening had the same budget 10 years ago, two years ago, you know, six months ago.

Yet they didn't weren't able to get people out on the streets. That's right. Sure you can get and you know when it's like an NGO protest. Yeah, everyone there is wearing the same t-shirts There's like 45 people they all know each other. They're on the clock. Yes Yeah, so those are literal paid protesters But nobody has the money to go beyond like a couple dozen of those kinds of people you need an actual spark and you need gasoline and and then you get people out onto the streets and it

What the Trump administration has been doing was effectively guaranteed to create this reaction and arguably designed to create this reaction because they love it. They absolutely adore these images that they're getting. Let's Trump do the thing he's really wanted to do, send in the Marines. On the right in particular, there's still a lot of anger about the way that the BLM protests.

So they're gonna restart BLM and re-smash it. Well, I mean, you could, it's bi-directional. Nobody's forcing people to loot Adidas and Apple stores, okay? And every person who does, you know, all right, you know, it's not 2020 anymore. You don't have CNN panels talking about riot is the voice of the unheard. Everyone's like, you're kind of an idiot and you're going to jail. But I will say, you know, on that front, that's this whole like tone policing around protesters.

I don't know. I still think it's important, actually. I think it's important for opinion leaders and others to learn lessons politically and for people to recognize like, hey, this is really bad. Like, well, I mean, on January 6th and all that, there was at least, what, a two-year, three-year period where we're like, yeah, you know, like that didn't turn out so well for us. It ended up being fine, I guess, in the end, and people largely forgot about it. But, I mean, I don't think we could deny that in 2022, if you remember, a lot of the more like –

Gen 6 adjacent Republicans who ran, they all lost. I mean, Doug Mastriano, David Perdue, remember, against Raffensperger. We had Brian Kemp survive. Like, it was important, actually, in its time to not necessarily, Carrie Lake, you know, to be a peer as one of these people who seems to be extreme. It gave Democrats the United States Senate, and that's arguably the reason that, what, we have, like, the

inflation reduction act. So many tent pulp, whether you like them or not, that actually did have an impact. Sure, it didn't end up having in 2024. But anyway, I do think that level of people advising them to be smart or whatever, I don't think it's a bad idea. Because sure, maybe some Mexican flag waivers are always going to do it. But it does matter to have a top-down kind of

commentary at telling people and be like, this is not good. Like you are inviting your own destruction to a certain extent. And I think people like you and Crystal have spoken up against that destruction. And you're like, that's not what we want to see. So just don't give people what they want, which is generally a good rule in politics, by the way. It's interesting though, that the security forces never get tone policed. Like you never hear, not even on Fox, not on Newsmax, that say, hey buddy, maybe you shouldn't on camera

Aim your weapon at an Australian reporter and pull the trigger. I did see people criticize that at least. At least not necessarily. I don't know if it's on Newsmax. By the way, I don't watch Newsmax confession. It may have been Fox. I actually have no idea. Or like plainclothes ice goons should stop going around masked.

Because there was just this case in Philadelphia where a guy went into like a barber shop or something or a beauty shop or something and was masked and dressed like a fake ICE agent. Oh, wow. Because ICE agents are now putting on these bandanas, refusing to identify themselves, zip-tying people and dragging them off the street. So this guy went in and he's like, I'm ICE. And he like zip-tied this woman and then took like $1,000. Wow.

Because everyone's like, oh, wait, we're not allowed to get in front of ICE or else we're going to get arrested, too. Nobody and nobody tone police is the other side. But so the point is, I think this this is this is what Trump wants. But that

Doesn't necessarily mean it's good for Trump as we're going to get into it. I really don't know. I mean, one of the important things that I what I tried to highlight yesterday is like one of the reasons why I thought at least yesterday we're doing this in real time. While I'm like, I think it's net positive for Trump is I think whoever this is just generally on these types of social issues, whoever seems crazier usually is the person who loses.

And if you look at the last couple of months for the Trump administration on immigration, you had the Kilmer-Obrego-Garcia case, right? You had El Salvador, Seacott. You did not largely have an elevation of stories for ICE deportation raids,

or gang criminals rape, whatever. That's not what the main story was. But then you flip it and you're like, oh, well, now you have people waving Mexican flags, burning Waymos in the street. Now, add looting and all this. People may think I'm obsessing about the looting. I'm trying to highlight for you what boomers are going to be seeing in Alabama. I want people to really know how important these images are going to be against

for anyone marginally right-wing aligned, this is spreading like wildfire across the entire internet. And that is going to inform a lot of the way that they're gonna think and behave for Republican politicians and support. Vice versa, by the way, if you're somebody on the left, I mean, I know there's massively viral images

I think it's like Kirk Russell's son, like speaking back to the cops, being like, you should be ashamed of yourself or whatever. I see it on Twitter. It's got 58,000 retweets. So, I mean, look, everybody's living in their own information environment and people should understand that. I still think we're probably in net positive territory, but there are a couple of things.

The Marine image is going to be a crazy one. I mean, it's just crazy, right? To have an active duty in the United States. Yeah, it's crazy. Marine on the streets of Los Angeles. That's nuts, all right? Like, I believe one of the only times in U.S. history that active duty soldiers were mobilized for a domestic law enforcement situation was the 101st Airborne in 1957 with President Eisenhower.

around that desegregation. I forget exactly. I mean, it's the governor who stood in the schoolhouse door. I don't remember the name of it exactly. But I mean, that's kind of what we're talking about in terms of its precedents. Another one here is this looming threat to arrest Gavin Newsom. So this is something Gavin floated yesterday. He was like, go ahead and arrest me. Donald Trump actually spoke on it, was asked about it yesterday, endorsed the idea. Let's take a listen.

He's daring Tom Holman to come and arrest him. Should he do it? I would do it if I was Tom. I think it's great. He's done a terrible job. Look.

I like Gavin Newsom. He's a nice guy, but he's grossly incompetent. Everybody knows. All you have to do is look at the little railroad he's building. It's about 100 times over budget. We're putting a flagpole over there. Under budget. I always do under budget. What is your... What is your... A crime has he committed? I think his primary crime is running for governor because he's done such a bad job. What he's done to that state is like what Biden did to this country.

And that's pretty bad. It's the wrong philosophy. So that was Trump saying, basically endorsing the idea of arresting Newsom. Quote, I would do it if I were Tom. I think it's great. Tom Homan, that's who he's referencing there, actually did react to that. And so far has said that nothing Newsom has done is arrest worthy. Let's go ahead and play it. A5, please. Didn't the reporter ask him, well, could he get rid of Governor Newsom or Newsom?

or Mayor Bass be arrested, I said, well, no one's above the law. If they cross the line and commit a crime, absolutely they can't. So there was no discussion about arresting Newsom. And so, you know, what he's done, he's failed that state. He waited two days of that city burning

and people getting hurt, officers being assaulted before he made any declaration of an unlawful assembly. He's late to the game. President Trump isn't late to the game. Men and women of ICE are not late to the game. Men and women of ICE and men and women of the Border Patrol made L.A. safer that day, but you're not hearing any of this. All you hear is a rhetoric about ICE being racist and ICE being Nazis and terrorists, and Governor Newsom feeds that.

So that's what, and he gave another interview to CNN just yesterday, um, saying that, uh, he's like, he hasn't done anything yet. Absolutely. He has not done anything yet to, um, have an arrest. Just being a bad governor. I mean, in a sense, um, I actually wonder because, you know, I mean, I don't think he should be arrested. I think it would be pretty insane. Um,

it kind of would be the best thing that could happen to Gavin Newsom for his political career. That's why he said, come get me. I was wondering, I wanted to get your reaction as to that because, I mean, obviously Newsom initially dabbled in kind of his Steve Bannon podcast and he was like Charlie Kirk, right? And he was, he was kind of trying to enter the bro sphere. But I would say during this crisis, like he,

kind of has stepped up as a resistance-style figure. And anything he does, as oppositional as he can, to the Trump administration, I do think he could be, you know, something like this could be very beneficial to him and could change his kind of future orientation as a Democratic leader. I mean, he likes to walk a tightrope, and this is the tightrope, the kind of tightrope he likes to walk because he wants to be able to be

out on the edge, pushing back against the Trump administration's authoritarianism, but he doesn't want to seem like he's endorsing burning a Waymo car or looting an Apple store, but he does want to endorse the right to peaceably assemble and protest. He does want to push back against Trump's across the board, we're gonna find everyone and deport them, including green card holders, while not endorsing

you know, criminals who are staying here. So like, I think he kind of enjoys that effort to like balance all of those different things. And as long as he is the face of like this standing up against Trump, then that's where he wants to be. That's exactly kind of where he wants to be. I mean, this is all in the political realm. I do think, which is, I mean, it's pretty nuts. Like Marines are on their way to Los Angeles. And it is curious too, because I mean, by Trump's own comments, he said, he's like, yeah, I think things are

calming down. And look, I understand, you know, we just played videos of looting or whatever. I would also say in Los Angeles, I hate to say this, it's like not exactly a place where looting is particularly uncommon. I don't think it should be that way. But, you know, it's not something like LAPD is dealing with for the very first time. So this is what we see right now in terms of the situation. I guess the big jump that would have to take place next,

which I know it sounds crazy about with the sending of active duty troops, the big one would be an invoking of the Insurrection Act because the troops are still being sent under this Title X authority and the Marines are still being actually placed in the same unit as these National Guardsmen, which means

They're not out on the streets, like, conducting law enforcement behavior. I believe of, like, a National Guardsman can't even make an arrest unless a cop is like, hey, you should, you know, detain this person. It purely is like being able to deploy tear gas and defense or whatever of federal, effectively creating a perimeter with shields around federal property. Yeah, and some of the pro-January 6th people on the right are so salty about getting accused of

carrying out an insurrection that now they see they kind of thing is an interaction comically see insurrections everywhere It's like guys you sack the Capitol to try to interfere with the transfer of power Like there's a reason people threw the I word in there. That's that's different from

than a protest over immigration or police violence that happens in the downtown of a major city. Yeah, but they're like, well, you're trying to inhibit lawful activity. Deportation is the law, right? But you're not trying to change the regime. An insurrection is trying to change the regime, which is what they were trying to do on January 6th by their own, not just admission, but proud...

Like that's what they were standing up for. They're gonna save the Republic in 1776. Yeah, well, that's a little bit of an IQ test. Also doing the whole 17, your whole motto is 1776 and then you've been crying ever since that you got accused of an insurrection. Ryan, if you are looking for intellectual consistency here, you are in the wrong place, my friend. We need to read some better. I'll see my way out of this.

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With the deportations and some of the polling, let's go ahead and move to some of this. There's some data that has been coming in on this. And by the way, it is not, you know, it is not uniform. It is kind of all over the place. And this is part of the circumstances around this matter. CNN's Harry Enten breaking some of this down. Let's take a listen. Donald Trump, the president, picking a fight on this. And to an extent, you see Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass, a Democrat, and the California governor, Gavin Newsom, pushing back.

So what do voters see in terms of their perceptions of Republicans, the president, or Democrats, say Gavin Newsom on this issue? Yeah, the American electorate believed that the Democrats don't have a clue on the issue of immigration. I mean, you could just take it here. Closer to trust more in immigration, Democrats versus Republicans.

Got three different polls for you across the board. They all tell the same story. Republicans lead on the issue of immigration. You see it here, CBS plus six. You see it here, CNN plus six. You see it here, Ipsos, even bigger, plus 19. No matter what poll you look at, no matter which way you cut it, the American public is with the Republicans.

Republicans, the American public is with Donald Trump and to a much greater extent than they were in term number one. And it's not just on the broad issue of immigration. It's on the specifics as well in which the American public is with Donald Trump and the Republicans. And that is why Donald Trump is eager to take on this fight and eager for those scenes.

That's exactly what we were saying yesterday, and I do think it's something people really need to keep in mind. I would say really the only immigration issue of the last 30 days, which has been net positive for the Democrats, was the Kilmar-Abrego-Carcia case. Of course, noteworthy, the Trump administration did basically bow down to the Supreme Court, and they brought him back.

here to face. Now they're going to try him. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, look, it's a trial. Right. Yeah. That's all we're asking for. I mean, by the way, you know, this guy's now free to give interviews. He's going to have a defense team. Like I'm sure it probably have like multi-million dollar defense. We have discovery. I said yesterday, I really hope it doesn't take a plea deal because I actually wanted to go to trial.

I'm serious. I won't be able to see all of the evidence. Just to break some of this down that Harry was talking about, let's go ahead and go through some of the slides, shall we? Let's put them up there on the screen. So this is Trump administration's program to deport immigrants illegally in the U.S. 54% approve, 46% disapprove.

I will say that disapproved number has gone up. People should keep that in mind. Thermostatic public opinion is definitely on its way as some of this becomes reality. Let's go to the next part, shall we? Trump's deportation program is making people in the U.S. quote, safer, 42%, less safe, 30%, no change, 27. Only really 30% there in the less safe category. Let's go to the next one we have here. Trump, the administration is prioritizing the deportation of dangerous criminals, 53%, 47% those who aren't

dangerous criminals. I will say, I mean, actually on this one, what you really have seen is kind of a shift and a push by Stephen Miller and others to take place in workplace raids, not necessarily even, quote, prioritizing dangerous criminals and others, but really just prioritizing the removal of people who are here illegally. Let's continue with some of these breakdowns. This, though, is why I think

that this is all really happening. When the nation's attention is all on immigration, as you can see here, Trump's tariffs and trade, Trump's goals versus Trump's approach,

50% of people are like, yeah, Trump's goals I like. 37% of people, though, say Trump's approach is something that they like. In terms of the dislike numbers, 63%. I mean, we're getting into supermajority status over there. Let's get to the next one, shall we? Here you see the impact of new tariffs on prices. You see in the short term, 77% is going to increase prices. 4% say decrease, and only 19% say have no impact and or not sure. And so if you think about really what's happening, this is the whole thing.

45% approve, 55% disapprove. But it's 50% approve on immigration, 50% disapprove. And on the economy, it's 42% approve, 58%. Economy's weak for him. Immigration remains basically the only real thing that they have left, in my opinion, especially after squandering a lot of the goodwill that they initially had coming in on Doge. But anything you want to say before we get to some of the specific polling? Just real quickly on that. Yeah, immigration polling has the volatility of a Tesla stock.

You look at 2015, 2016, the country is actually kind of siding with Trump. Yeah, that's right. And Trump says and believes, and I think rightly so, that his seizing of that issue really catapulted him through the nomination and also then to the White House.

When the images of the kids in the cages and the Muslim ban and all this stuff like hits the American public in the face, they recoil and it flips and you get this kind of massive support for immigration. You get yard signs in suburbs all over the country.

Then under Biden, you have millions of people because you've got the 2020 kind of shutdown of the border because of COVID. So you've got all this pent up kind of pressure on the border that gets lifted at the same time Biden comes in. Millions of people coming across the border.

and opinion flips back again. Yeah, I think that's really what changed everything. Because it was a massive change in the status quo, and it was a particular change. It was a material change. It was a genuine change, which I think a lot of people ignore. Right, and it's true throughout history. You'd have periods of American history where you'd have massive inflows of immigration, and then you'd have a reaction to that and have it shut down for a long time. Then you'd have

loosening up again. So maybe things are moving faster now. If Trump overplays his hand, the public has shown a willingness to pivot

Pivot on a dime on this issue. No, I think could be punishing true That's your reason why I do think that they are risking it with some of these maroon because if it's seen as overzealous militarized one that is One that is extreme relative to where things are I have no idea where things are gonna fall because I also think the appetite for a lot of people of crushing protests is pretty high

Let's go and put this A8 up there on the screen. This is an interesting one. It kind of gets into some of the nitty gritty. Americans believe LA protests should be handled by state and local authorities.

Authorities, this is a YouGov poll, just literally came out yesterday. Who do you think should be the lead in responding to protests? 56% say state and local, 25% say the federal government, 19% say not sure. It's a little hard to parse some of these. Yeah, go ahead. Interesting question where the parties are very much divided. Yes. Because the only people in the country

who believe by a significant margin that the federal government should take the lead are Republicans. Even independents by 56 to 20 here say it should be state and federal. Obviously, you know, overwhelming majority of Democrats believe that. So it's this situation where Republicans are in the vast minority on the question, but within the Republican base,

Well, that's this question. That's the position. That's kind of what I don't want to move away from. Do you approve or disapprove of the protests? 36% approve, 45% disapprove, not sure is 19%. So that's one where, I mean, I think these people should really take notice. I mean, this, by the way, BLM was more popular at its initial outbreak than this is. And if you really look at some of this, here you have right now, things are all over the place.

all over the place. Like, for example, do you believe the protests in Los Angeles against ICE are, quote, mostly peaceful? 38%. Mostly violent? 36%. 26%? Not sure. So, the more media that plays of violence, like, that's largely what's going to inform a lot of this. I also, again, want to, uh,

give a multifaceted picture. Do you approve or disapprove the Trump administration's handling of deportations? 39% approve, 50% disapprove. So there's a lot of movement, you know, within this. And that's why, you know, it's funny because I see so much of this happen right now where people who speak out against like the Trump administration specific action are criticized as, you know, interlope, whatever. But it's like, guys, the public does pay attention to process. I get it. It's annoying. It's nitpicky.

or whatever. But, you know, if anything, if you're, quote, on the team, paying attention to process really matters, especially for something like this because you can see, you actually have a net positive issue and then a net negative in terms of how the way that you are handling it. And that's why I think that this marine deployment issue

in particular. I mean, also who knows how long this is gonna stay. One of the worst things about the Jan 6 thing, there were national guardsmen in our streets here, Ryan, for what, four months? When did that fence come down at the Capitol? It took months. By the way, I mean, that's crazy. The United States Capitol is one of the most accessible places in America, which I think is great. - I thought it was never coming down. - I thought so too. I mean, one of the cool things about the Capitol is constituents can just walk in there and like heckle their member of Congress. I encourage people to do it. It's really fun to watch.

actually. But that just stopped overnight. Of course, the members loved it. But yeah, but but the point is, is that around Washington, I'm sure you've seen this. When I came to college here, you could go up to the White House fence. Now, not going to happen. Lafayette Park, I think maybe in the last two years, people have been able to go. During BLM, it was basically just shut down for like three years, which I think is nuts. It's bad.

These are like the nation's monuments, capitals, et cetera. And now here we have in Los Angeles, it's like, okay, so they're being sent there. As you and I know, it takes months, maybe even years for people to be sent back. You want an active duty U.S. Marine occupation or whatever around the federal ability. Liberation. But it sounds sucks for them too. They already used Liberation Day. They don't want to live in downtown Los Angeles. It's a shithole compared to 29 Palms. Although apparently they don't like it there either because it's too hot. So whatever, I don't know.

When I moved to this city, you can actually drive along Pennsylvania Avenue. Oh, that was pre-9-11, right? Yeah. I've seen videos of that. I've never seen it before. Yeah, you're just sitting in traffic. It's like if you watch really old episodes of the West Wing from like 1999, you'll see cars. You're like, wait, you could drive in front of the White House? You're like, that's crazy. When they shut it down, the whole city was like,

That's a major thoroughfare. That's how we get across the city. How are you going to shut down Pennsylvania? I don't even remember what pre-9-11 Washington, D.C. was like. It was the golden age. It certainly was. Okay, so that's with polling. Last point on this, I think this will be as interesting as a trivia question.

a year from now? Like, what was the polling like at the beginning of this? Because we have no idea where this is headed. We truly don't. And that's going to change everything. Well, that's another question, too, around how the protesters themselves handle this in Los Angeles. Because if you continue to see more looting or more Mexican flags and or, you know, Waymo's being, although I believe Waymo has been shut down now, or

you know, general like burning, you're going to see net approval. But if you just see these permanent drone helicopter shots, you know, and it doesn't even seem like it's particularly bad, I think public opinion could sway pretty quickly. And it is a big question too about how the rest of the nation will respond. As of yet, have not seen much. No, I know there's nothing big going on in New York.

Nothing big going on. I mean, there's little pockets. You see a few things, San Francisco, Dallas. These are a few hundred people. These are not, you know, 10, 20, even 10, 20,000, like let alone the millions that we originally saw back in 2020. Right. I mean, you know, we talked earlier about the disorganized nature of this and I elevated that, but it is worth underlying.

underlining that they did arrest the head of the SEIU in California. You know what? I'm not that familiar with it. Can you lay out exactly what happened? Because I know that that had happened, but I have not read. So it was like four days ago or so. It was David Huerta. I don't know if he's related to Dolores Huerta, who's a legendary kind of civil rights and immigration rights figure, labor organizer. So he's the head of the SEIU in California. And they were protesting...

these, a bunch of arrests and detentions of people in this basement of this federal building, people who were being kept for many hours in pitch dark, being given very little food and water over that period of time, just treated like, you know, treated absolutely horribly. And so there were very small protests around this.

partly organized by SEIU in defense of their comrades and they arrested the head of the state chapter of the SEIU and then a bunch of people came out so you can call that Organized in the sense it's literally organized labor because this is a organized group of people who were like they they arrested Huerta They did what? Not because he's here illegally

Using that kind of almost a loophole. What's the charge? The charge would be obstructing like, you know, a lawful like immigration arrest or something. But I call it a loophole because if you're protesting the general policy of like the treatment of immigrants and a cop is like move out of the way.

And you're like, no, I'm sitting here protesting. You can arrest them for civil disobedience. And that's typically how this goes, a little misdemeanor. Instead, they're saying, aha, boom, you're trying to obstruct a federal carrying out of immigration duties. And so they arrested him for that. And they're still holding him. And so that is what really kicked off the protests. Got it.

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