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20 tiktok shitshow

2024/12/8
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(未提及姓名): 美国国会通过TikTok禁令(PAFACA),DC巡回法院驳回了TikTok对其核心质疑,包括第一修正案的质疑。DC巡回法院法官Ginsburg裁决PAFACA通过了严格的审查,这在第一修正案的案例中是罕见的。美国第一修正案对言论自由的保护范围极广,几乎涵盖所有形式的表达,除非直接煽动暴力。DC巡回法院对政府表现出异乎寻常的宽容,这与美国法院以往的判决形成鲜明对比。美国政府在对TikTok的处理过程中,经历了谈判、立法、调查等多个阶段。TikTok提出的“Project Texas”方案旨在将美国用户数据存储在美国,并接受第三方审计,但最终未能成功。TikTok的全球化运营模式使得其数据和代码的本地化存储无法完全阻止跨境数据共享。PAFACA的通过,是因为政府证明了其具有令人信服的国家利益,且措施是精确制定的,没有较不严格的替代方案。要满足严格审查标准,政府必须证明其措施具有令人信服的国家利益,且是精确制定的,没有较不严格的替代方案,并且不能歧视特定群体。原告提出的其他诉讼理由(如违反信托义务、违约等)与第一修正案相比,效力较弱。原告试图穷尽所有可能的诉讼理由,但核心问题仍然在于第一修正案的适用。原告将第一修正案和平等保护条款置于诉讼理由的首位,这反映了其对案件重要性的判断。原告将第一修正案和平等保护条款置于诉讼理由的首位,这反映了其对案件重要性的判断。PAFACA的立法技术精湛,巧妙地规避了直接针对TikTok的指控,而是将责任转移到第三方服务商。PAFACA规定第三方服务商不得为TikTok提供服务,否则将面临巨额罚款,这实际上扼杀了TikTok在美国的运营。PAFACA与RESTRICT Act相比,其立法技术更精妙,巧妙地规避了“征收”等法律问题,并转移了责任。PAFACA巧妙地规避了用户是否有起诉权的问题,将责任转移到大型科技公司,并利用了公众情绪。PAFACA将TikTok直接列为受限对象,这使得其他条款的挑战性降低,并具有政治上的优势。PAFACA对“控制”的定义非常宽泛,赋予政府很大的权力。PAFACA将TikTok单独列出,降低了其他条款受到挑战的可能性,并为政府提供了可操作的工具。PAFACA的立法时间安排具有战略意义,巧妙地利用了选举周期和国会运作机制。PAFACA巧妙地规避了对言论自由的直接限制,而是通过更换所有权的方式间接达到目的,这在法律上难以攻破。法院对公司拥有言论自由权的认定,拓展了第一修正案的适用范围,也为PAFACA的通过创造了条件。德州和佛罗里达州的立法为法院认定社交平台的内容监管属于言论自由创造了先例。法院在判决中引用了Amy Barrett法官的观点,强调外国政府的干预与美国国内的言论自由保护有所不同。如果PAFACA要求外国控制的实体必须剥离所有权才能继续运营,这将违反第一修正案。法院认为PAFACA满足了严格审查标准,因为它符合国家安全的紧迫利益,并且是精确制定的。PAFACA将国家安全置于言论自由之上,这使得TikTok的法律论证难以奏效。历史上,很少有案件在最高法院通过严格审查标准,而涉及国家安全和恐怖主义的案件更是如此。国家安全关切与传统的刑事犯罪有所不同,它往往需要在潜在威胁发生之前采取行动。政府未能充分证明PAFACA中存在的国家安全风险,但法院仍然支持其裁决。法院对政府在国家安全问题上的判断给予了很大的deference,这使得政府无需提供充分的证据。法院对政府的deference,与其说是对政府的信任,不如说是对中国威胁的担忧。法院在国家安全问题上的裁决,体现了对国家存续的优先考虑,以及对自由主义政体边界划定的关注。

Deep Dive

Key Insights

Why did the DC Circuit uphold the TikTok ban despite First Amendment protections?

The DC Circuit upheld the TikTok ban by emphasizing national security as a compelling government interest. The court argued that the law was narrowly tailored to address foreign adversary control over TikTok, and there were no less restrictive alternatives. The decision also deferred to the government's expertise in national security matters, making it difficult for TikTok to challenge the ban on First Amendment grounds.

What was TikTok's proposed remedy to address U.S. government concerns?

TikTok proposed 'Project Texas,' which involved physically storing all U.S. user data in Oracle's U.S.-based database and allowing Oracle to audit the data and source code. Additionally, the U.S. government could temporarily shut down TikTok if necessary. However, this remedy failed because TikTok's global operations meant data could still be shared with ByteDance, making complete data isolation impossible.

How does the PAFACA law differ from the RESTRICT Act in targeting TikTok?

PAFACA directly targets TikTok by listing it in the law's text, while the RESTRICT Act broadly addresses foreign adversary-controlled entities. PAFACA shifts enforcement to third-party service providers like Google and Apple, making it self-enforcing. In contrast, the RESTRICT Act requires the government to individually review and prohibit transactions, giving it more discretion but also more responsibility.

What role does national security play in the TikTok ban decision?

National security is the central justification for the TikTok ban. The court ruled that the government has a compelling interest in preventing foreign adversaries from controlling platforms that could manipulate U.S. public opinion. The decision deferred to the government's assessment of national security risks, making it difficult for TikTok to argue against the ban.

What are the implications of the TikTok ban for other foreign-owned platforms?

The TikTok ban sets a precedent for regulating foreign-owned platforms, particularly those perceived as national security risks. While the law specifically targets TikTok, its framework could be applied to other platforms like WeChat. However, the court's decision emphasized that the ban was narrowly tailored to TikTok, leaving room for future cases to be judged on their own merits.

How does the TikTok ban reflect broader trends in U.S. policy toward foreign influence?

The TikTok ban reflects a growing emphasis on national security over economic and free speech considerations in U.S. policy. It highlights a shift toward stricter regulation of foreign-owned entities, particularly those from adversarial nations like China. This trend aligns with broader geopolitical tensions and a focus on protecting U.S. interests from foreign interference.

What are the potential consequences if the Supreme Court takes up the TikTok case?

If the Supreme Court takes the TikTok case, it could either uphold the ban, reinforcing national security as a priority over free speech, or reverse it, potentially weakening the government's ability to regulate foreign-owned platforms. However, reversing the decision would be challenging given the strong legal and political consensus supporting the ban.

How does the TikTok ban compare to similar actions in other countries?

The TikTok ban is part of a global trend where countries are increasingly regulating foreign-owned platforms, often citing national security concerns. For example, Australia has banned social media for teenagers, and Brazil has banned platforms like X (formerly Twitter) for failing to comply with local laws. These actions reflect a broader shift toward prioritizing national security and sovereignty over global digital openness.

Chapters
本期节目讨论了美国法院驳回TikTok对PAFACA法案的质疑,引发了关于言论自由与国家安全的讨论。法院的裁决引发了广泛的争议,节目探讨了其中的原因和影响。
  • 美国法院驳回TikTok对PAFACA法案的核心质疑,包括第一修正案。
  • 法院认为政府的措施符合国家安全利益,且具有针对性。
  • TikTok的诉讼策略未能成功挑战法案。

Shownotes Transcript

Call it tiktok ban, PAFACA, 啪发卡;it’s been upheld and we try to make sense of it. Too long don’t listen version: 言论自由天下第一,但国家安全是天。

(1:27) some (not much) context

(6:34) How can 啪发卡 be so well drafted in such a bad way? 群众互斗,名列前茅,卡点巧思,与忒修斯之船

(17:11) What was the F word that screwed tt 3 times in the decision? 言论价值倒反天罡,tt的诉讼不可能两全策略,与帝国落日的边疆

(44:12) What implications ensue? 压力来到了SCOTUS,川普,和马斯克这边(吗?)

(1:01:26) 彩蛋;or, any freedom thereof notwithstanding, how not everyone can give a nice speech.

本期(事实上,任何一期)播客不构成法律建议或雇主意见而只是sound and fury told by two podcasters signifying nuthin'. This is not even a 法律播客,but a parody of a 法律播客,ffs.

Some references:

TikTok v. Garland (D.C. Cir. 2024)

“Restricting the Emergence of Security Threats that Risk Information and Communications Technology Act” or the “RESTRICT Act”, S.686) (118th Congress 2023-24)

“Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act” or 啪发卡,H.R.7521) (118th Congress 2023-24), as a part of H.R.815

Ashcroft v. ACLU (SCOTUS 2004) (filters are a qualified alternative to criminal penalty/fines of for distributing minor-harmful content) (3:43)

Murthy v. MO (2024) (users lack Article III standing to seek injunction of gov’t from pressuring social media platforms to censor speech) (8:58)

Moody v. NetChoice (SCOTUS 2024) (”Corporations, which are composed of human beings with First Amendment rights, possess First Amendment rights themselves. But foreign persons and corporations located abroad do not. So a social-media platform’s foreign ownership and control over its content-moderation decisions might affect whether laws overriding those decisions trigger First Amendment scrutiny.") (14:57)

Williams-Yulee v. Florida Bar (SCOTUS 2015) (18:16)

Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project (SCOTUS 2010), and Breyer’s dissent (18:32) [was actually only cited 11 instead of 100 times here, majority & concurrence combined]

Gov’s redacted brief (or the lack thereof)) (21:38)

Lamont v. Postmaster General (SCOTUS 1965) (29:58)

“The Constitution is not a suicide pact.” Terminiello v. Chicago (Jackson’s dissent, 1949) (36:59)

Australia banning stuff) (53:50); Brazil banning and unbanning stuff) (56:26)

Brown v. Entertainment merchants Ass'n (SCOTUS 2011) (54:50)

NY v. Ferber (SCOTUS 1982) (55:13)

Murdoch seeking citizenship (59:37); FCC v. Pacifica Foundation (SCOTUS 1978) (1:00:07)

附加思考题:

  • ​What about overbreadth doctrine? What about vagueness doctrine? And why did Tiktok not argue them?
  • ​How was the FCC-Murdoch regulation constitutional?

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