This week, Justin is joined by Ward Sandler from MemberSpace (launched in 2015). We explore a bunch of questions:

How do you find a cofounder?
Ward explains to Justin (a Canadian) what a fraternity is.
What it's like doing enterprise sales.
How two sales guys ended up learning design and programming.
"Everybody needs to build a website for Uncle Larry"
Justin and Ward go through a sample sales phone call.
How they found the idea for MemberSpace through their consulting company.
How Ward knew there was a lot of interest in the product.
The unconventional reason Ward and Ryan took money from Ernest.
47:25 – what to do about that feeling of dissatisfaction and listlessness.
48:45 – "You have to ask yourself: why are you constantly running? What are you trying to achieve?"
49:50 – "Don't succumb to the ennui."

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