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A new U.S. president and the Middle East - with Tal Becker

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Dan Senor: 我认为以色列面临着千载难逢的机遇,但同时也要面对诸多挑战。人质事件虽然令人痛苦,但也为以色列带来了重新评估其战略和与美国关系的机会。我们需要认识到,以色列的建立不仅仅是为了确保犹太人的安全,更是为了创造一个模范社会,并利用主权使周围的人繁荣。目前的局势为以色列提供了前所未有的战略优势,但以色列社会也因创伤而感到疲惫,这可能会限制其对机遇的把握。 我们需要与美国建立更紧密的战略伙伴关系,而不是仅仅依赖援助。我们需要将以色列定位为地区稳定的基石,并为美国的利益服务。 关于巴勒斯坦问题,我们需要在维护自身安全利益的同时,促进巴勒斯坦人的尊严和自治,这需要在短期安全需求和长期和平愿景之间取得平衡。我们需要阐明一个积极的未来愿景,即使实现这一愿景需要很长时间。 Tal Becker: 当前的局势既充满机遇又充满挑战。人质交易虽然令人欣慰,但也引发了对被释放恐怖分子以及哈马斯卷土重来的担忧。以色列社会对人质问题的态度源于其深厚的民族认同感和社会契约,即为了集体利益愿意牺牲个人利益,并相信集体会保护个人。 以色列近几个月的军事行动成功地削弱了伊朗在该地区的势力,并使其安全策略从威慑转向清除威胁。美国在阿富汗的撤军给中国、俄罗斯和伊朗带来了机会,而特朗普政府需要向世界发出强有力的信号,扭转这一局面。 中东地区的地缘政治格局主要由什叶派轴心、逊尼派伊斯兰主义轴心和逊尼派实用主义轴心三个轴心构成,而以色列扮演着犹太逊尼派实用主义国家的角色。美国和以色列应该抓住机会,共同塑造一个更加稳定、繁荣和安全的地区,这首先要解决伊朗的挑战,并促进与沙特的关系正常化。 关于巴勒斯坦问题,我们需要在维护自身安全利益的同时,促进巴勒斯坦人的尊严和自治,这需要在短期安全需求和长期和平愿景之间取得平衡。我们需要阐明一个积极的未来愿景,即使实现这一愿景需要很长时间。叙利亚局势的不确定性需要以色列做好各种准备,同时也要为叙利亚走向稳定和与以色列和平共处提供路线图。

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Today, we are taking a step back to discuss many of the new opportunities across the landscape for the U.S. and Israel, as a new president takes office. 

 

Our guest is Dr. Tal Becker, who serves as Vice President and Senior Faculty of the Kogod Research Center at Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem. Tal was the former Legal Adviser of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He is a veteran member of successive Israeli peace negotiation teams and, most recently, represented Israel before the International Court of Justice and played an instrumental role in negotiating and drafting the historic peace and normalization agreements (the "Abraham Accords"). Tal earned his doctorate from Columbia University in New York City, and is the recipient of numerous scholarly awards, including the Rabin Peace Prize, and the Guggenheim Prize for best international law book for his book "Terrorism and the State".

 

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ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor

 

MARTIN HUERGO - Editor

 

REBECCA STROM - Director of Operations

 

STAV SLAMA - Researcher 

 

GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern