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Bonus Episode: Are ANY colleges confronting the madness? - With Andrew Martin & Santa Ono

2025/3/9
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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

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Dan Senor: 我关注哥伦比亚大学的反犹太主义事件,以及联邦政府对哥伦比亚大学的资金审查。一些大学,例如范德比尔特大学和华盛顿大学,在应对这些挑战方面做得很好,而密歇根大学也在努力改善校园环境。我们需要了解这些大学的经验,并找到前进的道路。 我采访了华盛顿大学的校长Andrew Martin和密歇根大学的校长Santa Ono,讨论了他们在各自大学的经验教训,以及如何应对校园中的政治极化和反犹太主义。 我特别关注了在校园抗议活动中执行规则的重要性,以及如何平衡言论自由与校园安全和教学秩序。 Andrew Martin: 在华盛顿大学,我们制定并执行了明确的规则,以维护校园秩序,保障教学和研究。我们不允许在校园内扎营,因为这会干扰我们的教学和研究任务,并影响校园安全。我们有责任维护校园秩序,同时也要尊重言论自由。 我们与以色列的学术机构保持着密切合作,并认为抵制、撤资和制裁(BDS)运动与学术自由相悖。我们致力于维护学术自由,同时也要确保校园安全和教学秩序。 我们与范德比尔特大学共同发布了一份原则性文件,呼吁大学拒绝日益严重的政治极化,并维护大学的核心价值观。 Santa Ono: 密歇根大学在应对反犹太主义方面采取了多项措施,包括加强与以色列机构的合作,并追究那些发表反犹太言论的教职工的责任。我们还成立了劳尔·瓦伦贝格研究所,致力于教育大众了解反犹太主义的根源,并努力消除反犹太主义。 我们还成立了公民对话研究所,旨在促进校园内的公民对话,并培养学生和教职工的公民素养。我们认识到,教育是应对反犹太主义和政治极化行之有效的方式。 我们坚决反对抵制、撤资和制裁(BDS)运动,并正在努力改善校园环境,确保所有学生都能在一个安全和包容的环境中学习和生活。

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Last week, three federal agencies — including the Department of Education — announced a comprehensive review of the funding relationships between the federal government and Columbia University in regards to Title VI of the Civil Rights Act. Like most universities, Columbia receives a great deal of federal funding. 

The Federal Task Force to Combat Anti-Semitism, created by the Trump Administration, announced that it will visit 10 university campuses that have  seen a shocking rise in antisemitism since October 7, 2023.

According to Education Secretary Linda McMahon, “Americans have watched in horror for more than a year now, as Jewish students have been assaulted and harassed on elite university campuses. Unlawful encampments and demonstrations have completely paralyzed day-to-day campus operations, depriving Jewish students of learning opportunities to which they are entitled. Institutions that receive federal funds have a responsibility to protect all students from discrimination. Columbia’s apparent failure to uphold their end of this basic agreement raises very serious questions about the institution’s fitness to continue doing business with the United States government.”

According to Maya Sulkin in the Free Press, “even though Columbia formed a Task Force on Antisemitism weeks after Hamas’s invasion of Israel on October 7, 2023, and issued two reports that revealed shocking instances of Jew hate on campus—not just among students but professors and administrators—the college has done little to root out the problem.”As a result, on Friday the Trump Administration announced the cancellation of $400 million in federal grants to  and contracts with Columbia. 

Following these developments, one could be left with the impression that higher education is doomed. Yetwe were struck by the reaction from the Call Me Back community to a conversation we had with the Chancellor of Vanderbilt University, Daniel Diermeier, last November, in an episode titled “How Vanderbilt University is getting it right.” It reminded us that some universities have impressively navigated the past 16 months.

Vanderbilt is one of them. Another is Washington University. The Chancellors of both universities (Washington University Chancellor Andrew Martin and Vanderbilt’s Diermeier) recently issued a set of principles that every university should be able to adopt. They summarized these principles in a piece in the Chronicle of Higher Education, titled: “Universities Must Reject Creeping Politicization).” You can read it here: 

There have been other universities, like the University of Michigan, which in the months after October 7, 2023 experienced massive disruptions. Yet according to conversations we have had with current Jewish students, the university administration has been doing much better than others. University of Michigan President Santa Ono has taken promising steps on a number of fronts, including the University’s relationship with Israel, that could also serve as  a model.

So, against the backdrop of chaos at Columbia and Barnard this past week, we sat down with WashU’s Andrew Martin and Michigan’s Santa Ono at the ADL’s “Never is Now” Summit in New York City, for a candid conversation about what has happened at each of their universities, lessons learned, and charting a path forward. 

Additional items:

ADL’s Campus Antisemitism Report Card: https://www.adl.org/campus-antisemitism-report-card)

-Free Press reporting on Columbia University:

https://www.thefp.com/p/exclusive-trump-administration-cancels)

-https://www.thefp.com/p/trump-columbia-antisemitism-federal-funding)

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