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DESTROY, DELAY OR DISMANTLE? - with Nadav Eyal and Karim Sadjapour

2025/6/18
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Karim Sadjapour: 我认为即使哈梅内伊能够回到过去,面对特朗普提出的零浓缩协议,他也不一定会接受,因为他的固执程度非常高。现在的情况是,他所面临的选择比过去更加糟糕。我认为他会试图拖延局势,既不明确接受也不拒绝协议,而是派出外交官表达谈判意向,以此来争取时间。 Nadav Eyal: 现在的问题在于,我们实际上能够从伊朗伊斯兰共和国那里得到什么?即使他们最终屈服,我们所能期待的现实情况又是什么?以色列当然希望伊朗在冲突中达成协议,并在谈判期间继续对伊朗军队和革命卫队施加军事压力。另一种更可信的情况是停止敌对行动,伊朗向特朗普政府发出愿意达成协议的信号,以色列国防军表示已经实现了目标。第三种选择是美国加入并结束冲突,这对以色列来说是最好的情况,因为结束冲突不再是它的责任。第四种选择是冲突拖延下去,这对伊斯兰共和国来说是最好的选择。

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Today’s Episode:

Will the U.S. play a direct military role in the destruction of Iran’s nuclear program? Over the past few days, President Trump has been reinforcing his support for the Israeli offensive and his position that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Most assessments suggest that the IAF does not have the capability to completely destroy Iran’s nuclear program. If that’s the case, what’s the end-game? Should Iran’s nuclear program be destroyed by the US, delayed by Israel, or disassembled by Iran through a deal?

On today’s episode, we dive into these critical questions with senior analyst at Yedioth Achronot and *Call me Back *regular, Nadav Eyal, and Iran foreign policy expert and senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Karim Sadjapour.

Karim is a first-time guest. In addition to working at Carnegie, he is a contributing writer to the Atlantic. He was previously an analyst with the International Crisis Group, based in Tehran and Washington. He has lived in Latin America, Europe, and the Middle East (including both Iran and the Arab world) and speaks Persian. Karim is an adjunct professor at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service, teaching a class on U.S. foreign policy and the Middle East.

Nadav and Karim discuss what the mood is inside Iran, what military options are on the table, and possible outcomes of the war.

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