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The Deal and its Political Fallout - with Amit Segal

2025/1/28
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Amit Segal: 我认为以色列的人质协议是一个在坏与最坏之间做选择的艰难决定。虽然我个人可能投票支持该协议,因为考虑到被扣押在加沙的妇女和其他人质的困境,以及特朗普政府可能比拜登政府更值得信任,但我深切理解并尊重那些反对该协议的观点。我必须为那些担忧协议代价的人发声,特别是考虑到过去类似协议释放的恐怖分子所造成的长期后果,例如辛瓦尔的释放。这项协议开创了一个危险的先例,即以色列为了换取人质而放弃军事成果,这可能鼓励未来的绑架行为。尽管哈马斯的力量有所减弱,但其形象仍然对地区稳定构成威胁。我担心该协议可能被视为哈马斯占上风,从而鼓励其他激进组织。我认为以色列需要改变其人道主义援助的方式,以防止这些援助落入哈马斯手中,并支持该组织。我主张采取一种新的战争方式,即在清除恐怖分子后,逐步在加沙建立没有哈马斯的区域,并直接向居民提供援助。我对巴勒斯坦权力机构的执政能力缺乏信心,我认为除非哈马斯被彻底清除,否则加沙的政治未来仍然不明朗。我支持以色列采取更强硬的立场,包括吞并加沙部分地区,并允许加沙人移民到其他地方,以削弱哈马斯的力量,并向该地区的其他潜在侵略者发出明确的信息,即对以色列发动战争是有代价的。我认为以色列应该鼓励士兵在看到恐怖分子时立即杀死他们,以减少未来的威胁。如果以色列继续实施第二阶段的协议,内塔尼亚胡政府可能会垮台,因为结束战争的代价太高。尽管如此,我认为以色列不会结束战争,而是会采取一种新的战争方式,同时考虑到伊朗可能采取的行动。

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Amit Segal, while personally leaning towards supporting the deal, highlights the concerns of those opposed to it. He explains his reasons for supporting the deal, emphasizing the dire situation of the hostages and his trust in President Trump's approach compared to the Biden administration. He also analyzes the strategic implications of the deal and Israel's improved geopolitical position.
  • Segal's personal stance in favor of the deal despite voicing opposition concerns.
  • Comparison of Trump and Biden administrations in handling the situation.
  • Analysis of Israel's strategic position and risk assessment.

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Over the past couple of weeks, our focus on “Call Me Back” has been on the hostage deal and its implications. 

Today Amit Segal returns to the podcast to discuss the perspective of those inside Israel opposed to this deal. 

Amit Segal is the chief political correspondent and analyst for Channel 12 News, and for Yediot Ahronot, the country’s largest circulation newspaper. 

 

CREDITS:

ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor

MARTIN HUERGO - Editor

REBECCA STROM - Director of Operations

STAV SLAMA - Researcher 

GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern 

YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer