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Who Is She? (Pt. 1)

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Voice Memo Caller: 我今年27岁,讲述了我24岁时遇到一个38岁男人,并和他发展成一段复杂关系的故事。起初,我单身并享受生活,同时和不同的人约会。但这个男人逐渐赢得了我的心,我放弃了其他选择,包括一个帮我支付账单的人。然而,关系逐渐变质,我发现他和其他女人调情,甚至发现了他和所谓best friend之间的暧昧短信。我感到被背叛和困惑,因为这个best friend一直是他极力维护的人。尽管我多次尝试离开,但他总是用各种手段挽回,让我深陷其中。现在,我意识到这段关系的有毒性,并寻求帮助来彻底摆脱他,重新开始新的生活。 Jess Hilarious: 我认为这个故事揭示了女性在有毒关系中常犯的错误。首先,为了一个不值得的人放弃经济上的保障是非常不明智的。其次,这位女士对男人的不忠行为视而不见,一次又一次地给他机会,最终导致自己身心俱疲。我强调,女性应该更加珍视自己,不要为了迎合男人而降低自己的标准。同时,我也告诫听众,不要轻易相信所谓的“best friend”,因为很多时候,他们才是关系中的真正威胁。最重要的是,这位女士需要认识到自己的价值,并勇敢地离开这段有毒关系,才能找到真正的幸福。 Taylor: 我也认为这位女士需要离开这段关系。这个男人明显不尊重她,而且一直在欺骗她。她需要找到自己的力量,并意识到自己值得拥有更好的人。同时,我也建议她寻求专业的心理咨询,以帮助她走出这段阴影,并建立健康的恋爱关系。

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The episode starts with Jess and Taylor discussing a complicated relationship. Taylor details the initial stages of her relationship, highlighting the initial connection and the gradual shift in dynamics.
  • Met at 24, turning 25; he was 38.
  • Initially perfect, clicked more than other guys.
  • He moved in quickly, but she was paying all the bills.

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Oh shit, just like that, we back on the air. Welcome back to yet another Catholic Reckless episode with your girl Jess Hilarious. What I be doing? I be fixing mess. And we got one. Listen, my baby, my baby, I'm in here with Taylor. Say what's up, Taylor. Y'all say what's up to my girl. What's up? She here, even more pregnant than she was two weeks ago. So she gonna be in and out, y'all, because she is annoyed as fuck.

She got a little baby up in there. What you having, girl? Oh, can we announce? Yeah, I'm having a boy. She's having a little boy, so she's about to be a bitch. Sorry. Sorry about that. My God, boys make you so mean. In my opinion, I was mean when I was pregnant with Ash. I wasn't. You think I was mean when I was pregnant with Marley? No. I wasn't mean. I didn't know how you

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Okay, so I'm 27. My wish in my college is 38, turning 39 this year. So we met when I was 24, turning 25 in a couple months. Everything was kind of perfect. Like we talked for a month before we like linked up. I was dating single for a year and a half.

Heavy on the self. Love. My confidence was high as fuck. All the time. High like bitches just working out. Doing yoga. Drawing. Reading. Writing. Living their best lives and shit. So I was dating. I wasn't exclusively like dating him. So when I monthly got to know each other, you know, we just kind of clicked more than the other guys. And the other guys were kind of more on my roster. Due for convenience. And not just convenience. Like they were good dudes.

So, you know, I wanted to see if more feelings could develop for me. Mm-hmm. Um, so...

Hey, yeah.

and doesn't leave until he goes back to work. Like, we're literally together all the fucking time. Like, even on the weekends, he's there after work. He's there playing a game. Like, just, it's like we're living together at this point.

That's right. That's right.

Damn.

You know, we go to the store together or whatever he'll go have. He, you know, he got me and my son stuff for Christmas, which is the fuck he should. I got him something as well. So, you know, shit's going good. But I'm kind of like at this point now, like, well, you know, you're not. I'm paying these bills alone. Like, and that's kind of turning me off from you because, you know, I had a dude on my roster who would send me money for the fucking hell of it.

My usual dude on my roster was in the streets, and this dude wasn't. So I wasn't really tripping. I'm like, I got a good dude. Like, you might be the nigga that I've been praying for. So the date slowed down from every weekend to every once in a while. The affection slowed down. Everything slowed down.

So this is about month six, and I'm noticing these changes. I'm like, hey, like, you know, is something wrong? Like, do we need to do something else to connect? You know, what are we missing? Because I've noticed changes in our relationship. I noticed that, you know, he would go through my phone sometimes. I was scrolling through his Facebook one day, and I saw, um...

I noticed this one girl in all of his likes, literally all of his fucking likes, all of them. So I call him. I'm like, hey, babe. I was just scrolling through your Facebook, and I noticed this one girl in all of your likes. And I was just wondering who it was. Like, you know, who is it? And this is like, you know, he was scrolling through my Facebook, ask questions, going through my phone, ask questions. So I didn't think it would be a problem. He immediately gets defensive.

Damn.

So with him reacting all defensive and shit, you know, I'm like, that's your best friend. Like, you know, why ain't never met her? Why have I never heard of her? Why have you never brought her up? If I literally never scrolled through your Facebook, asked who she was, I literally would have never knew about her. So, big red flag, right? So...

After that, he kind of started being more private. I don't ask you questions. You don't ask me questions, which is fucking crazy because the nigga ask questions all the time. Excuse me? Just insecure as shit. And then also, he basically living at your house. Basically, once the nigga game is there, he move to fucking. So you trying to have your cake and eat it too. And I'm not really with that shit, so I definitely understand. But yeah, you let him...

You let him do a little bit too much too fast and he started getting, he started smelling himself as the black mothers would say. But I'm going to let you finish. Hold up, hold up. I know this shit getting good, but listen to just a couple seconds of a commercial. If you love me, you'll listen.

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I go through his phone, can't find anything. So boom, fuck it. Like, you know, he's flirty on Facebook, you know, inboxing girls, not getting replies. I'm like, you know what? I don't want to call my face insecure. Even though if we're in a relationship, I do kind of find like, I'm not inboxing niggas trying to get attention or a response. A time, I'm not heart eyeing no motherfucking stories and sending it to their inbox, hoping they respond. Like I'm not doing any of that.

But I kind of just let it go. My fault. Okay. So, a few months go by and we're just, we're not getting along. I'm finding out that he's inconsistent and he's a liar.

he is hiding shit. Like literally he is making me insecure by just, he done did a whole 180 from the motherfucker he showed me in the beginning. Like he's not affectionate. We're not like that intimate as much anymore. Like he, where he used to want to talk like throughout the work day, like while he was working or whatever. Um, you

you know, he's not wanting to do that anymore. So I'm like, cool. Like, in my mind, I'm like, I'm going to run through this nigga phone. Like, fuck that. I'm one of them bitches. I'd rather know. Hold up. You giving this shit a lot of attention for you to be coming from the streets. Remember you said you had this nigga, that nigga, this nigga, that nigga. You done got rid of the nigga that was paying your bills for this clown ass nigga. And you still, like, this one must have been the one that had you. Like,

ready to be on some exclusive shit. And you hinted toward that earlier, like seven minutes ago. And you also said you was going to make this story short. And I'm loving it. Remember, you said that you lie, honey, so I'm going to let you finish. But yeah, this seemed like you... I'm going to let you finish. And to just be wondering, like, bitches be talking about intuition. Well, bitch, my motherfucking intuition led me to look through this nigga phone. So...

Damn. Damn.

He's mad at me. He sends me a screenshot of text messages, but with the name covered up and, you know, the little drawing shit. So the message is talking about a date and, you know, they've been trying to take each other out on dates for months. And I'm just like, what the fuck? Like, in context, he was the type of nigga to overtalk me.

Oh, wow. So...

Girl, with a so anyway. Yeah.

He is calling me nonstop, pulling up to my house, pulling up to my mama's house, like pulling up on me, literally like stalking me. So me being delusional and retarded. Oh, my gosh. I am so sorry if that offends anybody. Just just beat that out or something. Me being stupid and delusional. I'm like, you know what? This man is really fighting for my love. He's he fucked up.

And he never told the truth about the text message. He literally went from, it's my sister, to I used another phone to make that up just to make you jealous. Like, all types of shit. Never told the truth about it, so I never knew who it was at that point. This is my August fuck. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. Okay, so I'm going to speed this all the way up. That's where we get back together. Why my dumb ass was doing good, had a new boo, like, just fucking stupid. Okay, so we get back together.

So he's the same narcissistic type of man. I'm thinking that, you know, maybe he'll be who he showed me in the beginning. But no, because he was probably never that nigga to begin with. So fast forward, I go through his phone a couple months after we get back together.

I mean, what the hell did you expect, baby girl? Shit. So, in the screenshots...

He had the message that, well, in his pictures, he had the screenshot that he covered up with the ink or whatever. And then his dumb ass had the fucking real screenshot there, the one that he didn't cover the name up.

So come to find out the motherfucking screenshot about the dates and the flirting and shit and the sidelines and how they want each other was from his fucking so-called best friend that he was defensive as fuck about when I first met him. Damn. See why you should have left, girl? See? Do you see why? You put up with a lot of shit from this nigga.

Girl, I'm going to keep reminding you. Remember, you left the nigga that was paying your bills for this nigga. Fuck. Talking about that was a red flag and that was a red flag and then that was a red flag and the bitch, you just was on a roller coaster. You just went through it. Like, there was nothing. Red flag, six flags head ass. Like, you didn't give a fuck. Ma'am, I'm going to let you finish. So now...

So... So...

Link him with, you know, but from the messages, as far as I could tell, they hadn't fucked. They've been intimate. But clearly it's some type of feelings and emotions there. And just something has prevented them from being together in a relationship.

Or I don't know what it is. Yeah, because they were best friends. They really started off as best friends. And he probably always had a thing for her. But she probably, being his best friend, has seen how he's done bitches for years and years and years. You including being one of them. And...

She's like, nah, I don't trust you. I see how you move with bitches. So that's, she loves her best friend too, but as much as she loves him, she damn sure ain't about to be one of his victims, you know, end up like yo ass. So, you know what I mean? Like that, that's, you got to think about that. When a best friend, when a female best friend is like hesitant to get with her, her male best friend, but they do like each other more than likely. That's why. Cause she's seen how he is with, with women. She has two young kids. So maybe it's her baby dad.

I don't know. She doesn't have her shit together at her grown-ass age either. So it's probably a couple factors. First of all, how the fuck you going, girl? You writing... Think about your story. You're sitting here giving me this story

Where you are the fool in the circus. You are made out to be the clown in the circus. And how dare you speak on what this woman ain't got together in her life. She got that nigga that she was trying to get. She got that nigga that you thought was yours. You know what I mean?

So I hate when women come at the other woman when it's really like, you know, when y'all don't have to. Sometimes you got to check a bitch. Sometimes you got to, you know, air a girl out every time, every now and then. You know what I'm saying? Air a bitch out, let pop out and show. You know what I'm saying? But if you got your own shit going on, the last thing you need to be thinking about is somebody else not having a life together. Okay. Now we got a commercial. And if you click off this podcast, I swear I'm gonna beat your ass. Listen.

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You know, this kind of fucked up my views on best friends and platonic relationships between male and females. You know, so now as I move forward, dang, it's going to be like, nigga, I don't want to be one of them bitches, but ain't no friends. Like, I need to see all the messages from the time before time. Hang out with this bitch a couple times with you. See how she vibes around you. And just read the energy in the room.

Basically, this nigga fucked my head up with that. So, and it was just like, you know, they was talking about sexual shit and how they love each other and how deeply they feel about each other and about marriage and being together and moving in together, like all types of shit. So this is well after, you know, we done got back together and that month, that went by where we were supposed to be cutting ties with everyone. So...

I live again. And then I also... What really fucked my head up was... Because he knew I had ran through that phone before and saw her and questioned it and tripped out about it. And that's why we broke up, ultimately. He saved her number and another girl's number under male names. So I wouldn't really think twice to look through those messages. Or if they called, I wouldn't think twice about why he wasn't gonna answer. And what fucked me up was...

One of the names have been in there for like two whole years. And I literally have been seeing it for two whole years. And this is like literally the two years of the relationship. So really what's been holding me on was time spent. Yeah, I can't wait to hear this. Time invested. Like, damn nigga, like you don't waste it. Two years in my 20s. I'm 27 now. I'm 20.

Like, in love with you in the most toxic way ever. Like, and it's so hard to leave him. Like, this nigga's kicked my door in multiple times because I blocked him for weeks since the last time I went through his phone. Like, I just, I really don't know what to do. I need help getting away, staying away. I'm moving soon, so that should make it better. But, yeah.

And Roni's help. Like, what? How do I move on from this? I feel stupid and brainwashed and stuck. But I'm ready. Well, I'm glad that you said it. And I don't have to say it because I don't like calling women stupid. I don't like calling, you know, because we've all been in predicaments like this. And why I can't say we've all because I know a few women that have not, you know, but I have. I've been in a predicament where I couldn't leave a guy alone and know he was stupid.

Treat me like 10 karat shit. You feel me? Like putting things before him and putting him up on a pedestal. And it's like, first of all, bitch, you're you're you're that's a whole nother situation. But yes, I've done that before. So I'm really I don't want to say that you're stupid. But what you just said, you know, you're giving him too much power. It's about he wasted two years of your life. You wasted two years of your own life.

You already know, you know, and I'm glad that you recognize that this shit is toxic. But, you know, be that as it may, this is your fault as well. You let this man play you like a fucking fiddle. And that's why he kept doing it and got better at it with time, you know, and was doing it for so long. By the time you found out about bitches, you think he cared? You think he was going to give a fuck? You chased him to no end. All he got to do is chase you a little bit.

And that leads you on. I know the dick cannot be that good. We got to stop obsessing over the dick and the time spent and all of that shit. Like, that's like a crazy thing. Ain't it? Yes. I hate, I don't say I hate girls. It's like. You got to talk in the mic, Taylor. I am talking in my, I don't understand that though. Yeah. She was saying it's because of the dick.

Well, she was saying it was because of time spent. Now, Taylor has been in and out, so I'm going to go over your story. Okay, so she wanted... This nigga name is Witch McCall. She wanted to call him that. Even though she's anonymous, she still wants him to remain anonymous as well. Now...

They've been dealing with each other for a total of two years or whatever. When they first got together, everything was great. But she was doing her thing. You know what I mean? Like she had a roster of niggas, which one of them was paying her bills for her, you know, but that nigga was in the street. So it was like taking the good with the bad. He paying your bills, but he also risking his life every day. You know what I mean? Okay. So you did get that.

All right, cool. And her and the dude started talking. You know what I mean? Like, and she started liking him. He basically pulled her away from the other dudes, you know, just just, I guess, whining and dining her and, you know, just making her feel good. Basically, she was getting something from him that she wasn't getting from all the other niggas on the roster. Right. So she left him alone, including the guy who's paying the bills.

She laughing alone. I'm sorry I had to get loud on that because that is so, that's crazy. That's disrespectful to yourself. So then he started messing with some other girl. Yeah, pretty much. So yep, she had found out about his best friend.

Oh, yeah. That's right. Yes. She go through the phone. I mean, go through the Facebook and realize, all right, you got a best friend. Why the fuck I never knew about her. But look, that's the thing. He started slowly but surely moving in. Her game, his game ended up over there, like clothes and stuff. And that's the thing. Yeah. But because she stopped talking to the guy who was paying the bills. Now she paying everything by herself. This nigga never offered her nothing for no bills. But he started staying up in the house, laying that pipe.

You know? So then... Why are you not with the best friend? Exactly. This is what I said. I feel like he's not with the best friend because the best friend probably see how he treat women. You know what I mean? And will never go there with him. I had the same situation. Me too. You know what I mean? I had a male best friend who wanted to go there with me. Yeah. And as much as I loved my best friend, I'm like, nigga, I see how you do bitches. Like, I'm not about to be one of them. Like...

You got, what, four fucking baby mothers now and shit. Like, I already got a baby father with four other baby mothers. I'm not doing it. You know what I mean? But, yeah, either way. So I definitely understand where she coming from, you know, but...

let this nigga do this. She said he was a liar. He was inconsistent. She started seeing how they ended up breaking up and she looked, she went, she ended up breaking up with the nigga, putting them out and all that type of shit. God had gotten herself a whole new bull was like doing good. Then this nigga came back. She said, all right, we're going to put everything on the table. I

I think they gave each other 30 days to, like, dismiss all the bitches and all the niggas that, like, they, like, played this game, basically. And so at the end of the 30 days, they were supposed to swap phones and see, you know, all right, clean out the phone or whatever.

But this nigga forgot to delete some shit. And she's saying other shit, like shit that went way back from years with other bitches and all that. And then the best friend was in there. So it was a lot. And she was like, she feels like she still can't leave him alone. She asked me how she can leave him alone. And I didn't even let her finish the goddamn stories. It's three minutes and 50 other fucking seconds. Yeah.

and shit so damn man yeah that's a whole nother episode oh lord let me I got to end this shit she need to leave this nigga alone then right yeah I don't feel like what else I feel like this is part one we on you know we're gonna do we're gonna make this a two part that's what we're gonna do we're gonna make this a two parter

Y'all let me know. Y'all jump in the Carefully Reckless podcast page in the DMs or in the comments. And y'all let me know the advice that I should give this lady or y'all give her advice. And we're going to come back with part two. We're going to hear the other five minutes that she got to say, because I think, oh, no, it's 10 minutes. It's 10 other minutes. OK. And a summary. Jesus. All right. So we're going to come back.

And just like that, we come to the end of yet another Caffley Reckless episode with your girl Jess Hilarious. And my girl Taylor is here. Say thank y'all. You, say thank you. Thank you. To the people. She's so cute. She is so cute. All right, y'all. See y'all for part two next week.

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