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Mourners line up by the thousands to pay final respect to Pope Francis as cardinals from around the world gather to choose his successor. From CBS News headquarters in New York, this is the CBS Evening News.
Good evening, I'm Maurice Dubois. John Dickerson is in Rome and at this hour, mourners are filing past the coffin of Pope Francis inside St. Peter's Basilica. Since the viewing began yesterday, the line has been so long, the doors are being kept open well past the scheduled midnight closing.
The Basilica shut down for only an hour early this morning for cleaning. Cardinals from around the world continue to arrive. They will be meeting next month to choose a new pope. And John, they say all roads lead to Rome, and it looks like at least one of them begins in New York.
Indeed, Maurice. We traveled more than 4,000 miles to Rome and wound up bumping into the priest from around the block. It's a small world drawn closer by Pope Francis, and for the church to thrive, it has to stay that way.
As Catholics and the curious from around the world converged on Rome, we stopped by St. Patrick's Catholic American Parish to talk to the rector, who looked familiar. Welcome to St. Patrick's. Come on in. We were bonding over the choir at St. Paul the Apostle in New York City. Do you recognize this song? Where he had been a priest, my priest, for three years.
Now Father Matt Berrios is watching the church he loves turn a page. What are you looking for in the next pope? A shepherd, first and foremost. A man that can listen, a man that can lead, but a man that knows how to be humble. Why is humility so important? Because that is a pure imitation of Jesus. Being a leader is not about vaunting yourself. It's not about putting your name on buildings and proclaiming yourself. It's about putting yourself first.
in love, at the service and care of others, especially of the most vulnerable. - It sounds like your description of Pope Francis. - Absolutely. - "The shepherd must smell like the sheep," Pope Francis said, and all day long, the flock has gathered as bells pealed, the rain fell, to celebrate his push to put his life, his office, and his church among the people.
Not everyone embraced Francis' style, yet in a church short on priests and losing parishioners, his authenticity, his joy, his humility wasn't just holy, says Father Matt, it was necessary. Does the church have to find a balance that allows it to be more accessible for people in a modern world?
I think so. It's trying to find the fundamental proclamation of faith and proclaim it in a way that is in the language of the everyday person, spoken in the language of the culture. Some people we spoke with here say Pope Francis made the church feel close, so close he could call himself the world's parish priest.
The task for the church now? Finding a pope who nurtures that same feeling, where it's possible to run into your neighborhood priest in Rome and have it feel like more than a coincidence. What a moment there, John. 20 years ago for John Paul's funeral, I remember walking along the incredibly long lines of people extending way out into the streets and how quiet and reverent people were. What are you seeing this time around?
It is exactly that, Maurice. Over my shoulder is a mass of people quietly moving through the cordons. It's so brightly lit, you expect some kind of an event, a show, a sporting match or something, and it is so quiet. I mean, you can almost hear the heels beating on the travertine stone. Everyone is orderly, and they're going to be there for hours on the way to spend just a few seconds.
with Pope Francis. A unique scene there, John. Okay, thank you so much. And John, we'll be back with more from Rome a little bit later on in this broadcast.
Well, Russia launched a major attack today on Kyiv, pounding Ukraine's capital for hours with missiles and drones. At least 12 people were killed in a rare rebuke of President Putin. President Trump posted that he was not happy with the attack and Vladimir stop. But when asked later if Putin is an obstacle to peace, Mr. Trump said, I don't think so, and asked what concessions Putin had made to end the war. Mr. Trump said not taking all of Ukraine.
Margaret Brennan talked today with Sergei Lavrov for Sunday's Face the Nation. Lavrov has been Russia's foreign minister for more than 20 years. President Trump has said publicly the Russian strikes are not necessary and very bad timing. Vladimir, stop, was his quote. What made it worth killing civilians when Ukraine says it's ready for a ceasefire? We only target military goals.
or civilian sites used by the military. So was this an intentional attack then? Not a mistake? If this was a target used by the Ukrainian military,
the Ministry of Defense, the commanders in the field have the right to attack them. I want to ask you about what President Trump said on Wednesday. The President of the United States says he thinks the U.S. and Russia have a deal, let's get it done. Does President Putin agree? Well, the President of the United States believes, and I think rightly so, that we are moving in the right direction.
The statement by the president mentions a deal and we are ready to reach a deal, but there are still some specific points, elements of this deal which need to be fine-tuned and we are busy with this exact process. And the president of the United States did not spell out the elements of the deal, so it is not appropriate for me to do this.
Margaret, against this backdrop, the president said in the Oval Office today, you have no idea. We're putting a lot of pressure on Russia. Where does all of this leave his effort to end the war that he said he would end on day one? Well, Maurice, tomorrow, President Trump's personal envoy, Steve Witkoff, is planning to meet with Vladimir Putin for a fourth time. Now, despite what President Trump is saying about concessions at this
At this point, Vladimir Putin has not offered to give up anything concrete. In fact, Minister Lavrov was quite clear when it came to Crimea. That's the territory Russia seized back in 2014. Lavrov said it is a done deal. They will not give that territory back.
And that's a challenge because Ukraine's President Zelenskyy said that if they were to do so, it would violate his constitution. So it seems the two sides are pretty far apart. All right. Challenge the key word here. Margaret Brennan in Washington, thank you.
Now, more of the top stories from around the world in tonight's evening news roundup. 24-year-old Robert Cremo III was sentenced today to life without parole for the mass shooting at a 2022 4th of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois, near Chicago. Seven people were killed and dozens more were wounded.
In Poland, thousands marched between the former Auschwitz and Birkenau concentration camps in what's called the March of the Living. The annual event coincides with Israel's remembrance of the six million Jews murdered by the Nazis during World War II.
And spring kicks off the home buying season, but the market is soft this year. Home resales were down nearly 6% last month, the slowest March since 2009. Skyler Henry reports one of the hardest hit markets is Florida.
My reveal alone is sitting on what she thought was real estate gold. This is the master bedroom and we read the floors the walls. She bought this 2 bed 2 bath condo near Fort Lauderdale in 2021 for $145,000 hoping to pounce on pandemic your real estate prices. This is really a great community to live in is just not an investment right now. It's not a good one at least.
Vila Lona's condo has been on the market since last November. Despite spending $20,000 upgrading the kitchen and the bathrooms, she's seen virtually no potential buyers. We lowered the price this time. Why is that? Because it wasn't moving.
Lots of owners cannot sell because some buyers have been scared off from a surge in special assessment fees that are used to make safety upgrades to older condominiums. After a new state law passed following the partial building collapse of the Champlain Towers and Surfside in 2021,
Older buildings like Villa Lona's that are three stories or higher are now required to increase inspections and build up a reserve to fund restoration projects. The fees are paid by the homeowners, which can range in the tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars. It happened to me three times already. They changed the assessments. When we're talking about dollars, what's changed?
Well, it used to be 20, and then they went to 35, and now I owe over 50. That's $50,000 she now owes. Villalona says she isn't giving up on finding a buyer, but for now, she's hoping to rent it. Looking back on the decision that you made in 2021, do you think you would have still done it? Probably not this one.
Brokers now say that mortgage giant Fannie Mae has compiled a list of more than a thousand condo developments that are considered high risk to secure a mortgage. And that's because buildings are either underinsured or have more than repairs than they need, making them harder to sell. Many thanks, Skyler Henry, tonight.
Still ahead here on the CBS Evening News, more from John Dickerson in Rome and Rob Marciano on the huge wildfire in New Jersey. And we'll have these stories. I'm Usher Qureshi in New York. Nonprofit hospitals are supposed to offer help to patients who can't pay. So why are collection agents calling? Our story's coming up.
I'm Omar Villafranca in Green Bay, Wisconsin, home of the Packers. And when this pro football mecca pitched to host the NFL draft, the question was not why Green Bay, but why not Green Bay? That story in tonight's Eye on America.
Now the rising cost of health care. The American Medical Association says spending on health care has taken its biggest jump in two decades, with the exception of the pandemic year 2020. The AMA says health care spending in 2023 was up 7.5%, nearly double the overall inflation rate.
Nonprofit hospitals get a tax exemption for giving low-income patients free or discounted care. But CBS News has found hundreds of those hospitals are suing patients who cannot pay their bills. Here is Usher Qureshi.
You are a honeybee. Six years ago, before starting her family, Alexis Lewis worked two jobs to put herself through nursing school. The last thing she needed? A medical bill after a night in the hospital for trouble breathing. And you didn't have insurance at the time? No. How much was it for? $6,500, I believe.
Did you have the money? No, of course not. It shouldn't have mattered because she'd gone to a non-profit hospital, the University of Tennessee Medical Center in Knoxville. According to its own policy, a single person making less than $52,000 a year, like Lewis, may qualify for financial assistance known as charity care, something she didn't know. And at no point were you ever told by the hospital that you might be eligible for some sort of financial assistance to pay off this debt? No.
After Lewis missed payments and the hospital couldn't contact her, its collection agency sued and she ended up in this courtroom. A judge ordered deductions from her paychecks go toward her debt. Lewis is not alone. CBS News found in one year more than 400 nonprofit hospitals nationwide used debt collection tactics and lawsuits, trying to collect more than $800 million from patients.
Patients who should have qualified for charity care. It is immoral to sue patients who cannot afford their bills as a tax-exempt hospital. Eli Rushbanks is an attorney for the non-profit Dollar Four, which helps patients access charity care. He says the root of the problem is knowledge. Patients aren't aware financial help exists, so they don't apply for it.
He points to many different reasons, including hospital terminology that's confusing to patients. They don't understand terminology like financial assistance or charity care because those terms don't really mean anything. They think that it's a payment plan or something. Nonprofits are required to provide that information on paper and online, displayed publicly in the hospital, and include it in your bill. It's up to patients to read that information and then apply. But one state's solution puts the onus on hospitals.
Oregon requires them to proactively screen all patients and give financial assistance to those who qualify. Six years later, Alexis Lewis is still paying off her bill, $150 a month. UT Medical Center wouldn't respond to our questions about why she wasn't offered charity care, but says its policies are designed to ensure that eligible patients have access to the care they need.
So, Usher, do people have any recourse here? Well, look, it's tough. Depending on the state that you live in, reach out to an advocacy group that can help you navigate the process and see what, you know, you can do to try and deal with this. Oregon, for example, requires nonprofit hospitals that charge patients who should have received charity care a refund if they do charge them. And there are a number of states that are looking to strengthen laws to better protect consumers. And read the fine print, too. Absolutely. Usher Qureshi, thank you.
Well, have a look here at the New York City skyline today. The clouds you see are smoke from a wildfire 90 miles to the south in Ocean County, New Jersey. This fire has burned 23 square miles. The police say a resident of the county started it when he set wooden pallets on fire, and he is charged with arson tonight. Rob Marciano has the latest on the fire and the weather conditions that continue to feed it. Rob.
Hey, Maurice, we're at 50% containment now, so that's good. But look at the behavior. This is shot today. Look at this fire behavior. This is incredible. We're talking about flames that are reaching up to the tops of these tall pines into the canopy, crowning in time. So very aggressive fire behavior. And as you mentioned, the winds shift to the south today, and that brought all
All that smoke up the Jersey shoreline into the New York City metro area, Long Island, parts of the suburbs as well. And that'll continue tomorrow until we expect to see some rainfall. Our computer model is showing this Friday night into Saturday, knocking down that smoke, hopefully knocking down all of that fire. Where is that rainfall right now? Or at least part of it is across South Louisiana. This is Lafayette, Louisiana. We saw five to eight inches of rainfall in a three to four hour period.
This morning, they just swamped the place. And that's one of three areas we're watching now. That's the clusters of that getting into Baton Rouge, also from Dallas down to Waco to Austin, another cluster from Lincoln up through Des Moines, Iowa. These spots tonight could see some flooding rain. All this can combine and bring us that beneficial rain for that fire on Saturday. But unfortunately for the Northeast, a soggy Saturday as well. OK, Rob, thank you. I in America is next from Green Bay with the beers on tap. And so is the draft.
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Being here and seeing all these people is bigger than game day. It's day one of the NFL draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin, home of the Green Bay Packers. It's the fun cousin of the Super Bowl. It's a brand new season.
And for this town, a time of hope. An estimated 250,000 fans are expected to flood Green Bay. We don't have seats. We have benches. Gabrielle Dow, Green Bay Packers vice president for marketing and fan engagement, sees it as an opportunity to show off. They always talk about the glitz and glamour of New York.
What does Green Bay offer? The character and the charm and the history. The history. And the legacy. What we're trying to get is a seal here and a seal here. Coach Vince Lombardi, Lambeau Field, 13 championships. The Packers are the new champs. A team whose legend and legacy are older than the NFL itself. The NFL selects Green Bay, Wisconsin.
When the city became the number one pick, it felt like a major coup with the potential for a major windfall. We've been putting in some overtime hours. To Andrew Fabry of Badger State Brewing, the draft means more than just football. His crew boosted their draft beer production five months earlier than usual to have enough supply for new demand. That'll carry through football season. It'll carry through the holidays and the first quarter of
of 2026 really nicely as well. Organizers hope as much as $20 million flows into the local economy through food, entertainment, and logic. Green Bay's Housing Enforcement Division says the number of short-term rentals for draft week has more than doubled compared to a regular football weekend. And more of those rentals are here in this neighborhood alone, where some of the backyards
have a view of the draft's main stage. That is a heck of a backyard view. That's pretty cool. Corey Benke is proud to call the Packers his next-door neighbors. When we visited, the Cheesehead TV blogger and fanatic could see the stage being built just a Hail Mary throwaway. You could rent your place out and probably make a killing.
Oh, yeah. A lot of money. Vacation rental listings are as high as $16,600 a night. What do fans get out of this? At the draft here. They get Green Bay. They get kind of the heart of America. An opportunity to come here and to walk into the mecca of football where it started is pretty neat.
A Mecca, a Midwest memory, and as they say in Green Bay, a chance to go big. For Eye on America, I'm Omar Villafranca in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
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Welcome back to Rome. In three separate conversations I had today with a cardinal, an archbishop, and a priest, the comparison to American politics came up when talking about how the next pope will be chosen. But there is a significant difference between the two systems. In American politics, candidates boast. Flash and hubris often win. In the conclave, those same traits are liabilities.
As Colleen Dully, Vatican reporter for America magazine, explained to me, he who enters a conclave of pope exits a cardinal, meaning if any cardinal campaigns too openly for the job, his chances diminish. That same suspicion of ambition shaped the early American presidency. George Washington didn't campaign, nor did many of the first American presidents. It was believed that gross ambition was a cancer.
So maybe the systems aren't that different. Both are shaped, at least in their ideal, by a common fear that the person who most wants power may be the last person who should have it. Maurice? Well said, John. What a concept. Thank you. And John will be reporting from Rome once again tomorrow. I'm sitting in for him tonight on Evening News Plus. Until then, have a good evening.
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