Silicon Valley goes out of its way not to upset countries around the world - even when that means making embarrassing compromises. But it has taken a stand against Russia in its invasion of Ukraine, limiting services or cutting them off entirely. What happens next? Recode’s Peter Kafka and the New York Times’ Shira Ovide both wrote about this separately, and now they’re talking about it together.

Then, Wall Street Journal reporter Kirsten Grind talks about her new book, Happy at Any Cost: The Revolutionary Vision and Fatal Quest of Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh. Plus Kirsten reflects on her blockbuster reporting about the toxic culture at Activision.

Featuring: Kirsten Grind (@kirstengrind), Investigative Reporter for Wall Street Journal and Author

Shira Ovide (@ShiraOvide), writer of the On Tech newsletter for the New York Times

Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode

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Big Tech takes a side, finally + Zappos' tragic founder