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286 · Jason Shapiro - Overcrowded Trades: What Everyone Else is Not Seeing

2024/8/28
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我坚信市场是一个贴现机制,其贴现机制实际上是仓位和情绪,而不是价格。因此,我是一个逆势交易者,我并非因为价格而逆势交易,而是因为仓位。当我看到人们对某事物过度做多时,我会寻求做空;当我看到参与者对某事物过度做空时,我会寻求做多。 赚钱才是最重要的,无论我的交易策略是什么。我的目标是盈利,而不是遵循某种特定的交易方法。 当市场数据回到中性时,我的优势就消失了,所以我就会退出交易。我的交易策略依赖于市场中存在的极端仓位,当这种极端仓位消失时,我的优势也就消失了。 我试图抢在市场转向之前进行交易,因为当市场开始逆转时,空头会被止损,引发连锁反应。我的交易策略是基于对市场情绪和仓位的判断,提前预判市场转向,从而获得盈利。 市场大幅波动的原因是仓位过度集中,而非仅仅是利率小幅上涨。当市场仓位过度集中时,即使是微小的外部因素也可能引发剧烈的市场波动。 无论是少数参与者持有巨额空头仓位,还是众多参与者持有较小的空头仓位,只要总仓位很大,市场逆转时都可能引发剧烈波动。我的交易策略并不关注参与者的数量,而是关注整体的市场仓位。 人们往往贪婪,最终导致失败,即使是最聪明的人也可能犯同样的错误。在交易中,贪婪是最大的敌人,它会让人们做出错误的判断,最终导致亏损。

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What is Jason Shapiro's trading philosophy?

Jason Shapiro's trading philosophy is based on countertrend trading, focusing on market positioning and sentiment rather than price. He identifies overcrowded trades and goes against the crowd, looking to get short when participants are too long and vice versa.

How does Jason Shapiro identify overcrowded trades?

Jason Shapiro identifies overcrowded trades by analyzing positioning data, particularly through the Commitment of Traders (COT) report. He looks for extreme levels of long or short positions among speculators, which indicate potential reversals.

What was Jason Shapiro's most successful trade in the last few years?

Jason Shapiro's most successful trade in recent years was the Japanese yen trade in July, where he identified record levels of crowded short positions and profited from the subsequent squeeze higher.

Why did Jason Shapiro avoid trading the stock market in 2023?

Jason Shapiro avoided trading the stock market in 2023 because the positioning data had returned to neutral, meaning there was no clear edge for his countertrend strategy. He prefers to trade when there is extreme positioning on one side.

What is the yen carry trade, and how does it impact markets?

The yen carry trade involves borrowing money cheaply in yen with low interest rates and investing it in higher-yielding assets like stocks. When the yen strengthens, traders unwind these trades, leading to a sell-off in risk assets and a sharp move in the yen.

How does Jason Shapiro define a 'news failure' event?

A 'news failure' event occurs when the market fails to react as expected to negative or positive news. For example, if a market is expected to go down on negative news but instead closes higher, it signals that the market is already positioned in a way that negates further selling pressure.

What is Jason Shapiro's risk management strategy?

Jason Shapiro's risk management strategy involves risking a fixed percentage (70 basis points) on each trade. He sets his stop loss at the low of the day of the news failure event and takes profits when the positioning data returns to neutral.

Why does Jason Shapiro believe that the current bull market is 'hated'?

Jason Shapiro believes the current bull market is 'hated' because many investors, both older and younger, have been burned by previous market crashes and are cautious, even as the market rallies. This contrasts with past bubbles where there was widespread euphoria.

What does Jason Shapiro consider the biggest risk to the financial system?

Jason Shapiro considers the biggest risk to the financial system to be the potential failure of monetary policy, particularly if the Fed resorts to printing money during a recession and the markets do not respond positively. This could signal the end of the current monetary system.

Why does Jason Shapiro avoid overthinking the markets?

Jason Shapiro avoids overthinking the markets because he believes that his trading process, based on positioning and news failure events, already provides a positive return expectation. Overthinking can lead to overcomplication and reduce the effectiveness of his strategy.

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This chapter introduces Jason Shapiro, a contrarian trader, and sets the stage for exploring his unique trading philosophy. It highlights his success and experience in navigating various market conditions over three decades.
  • Jason Shapiro's contrarian trading approach
  • His feature in Jack Schwager's book
  • Over 30 years of trading experience

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There’s Contrarian Trading and then there’s Consistent Contrarian Trading. Can you really make money by consistently going against the crowd? Does it take a certain type of personality to be able to trade this way? Jason Shapiro was featured in “Unknown Market Wizards” by Jack Schwager and he returns to Chat With Traders for an update after two years since we last spoke with him. 

We delve deeper into his countertrend trading philosophy, learning about how he identifies overcrowded trades, and how market positioning and sentiment, rather than price, guide his trades, and focusing on the underlying mechanics that drive market moves.

About Jason Shapiro:

Jason has over 30 years of trading experience, navigating various markets including the 90s rallies, the 2000s tech bubble, the 2008 crash, and recent volatility in the last few years. His contrarian approach has made him a successful hedge fund manager, and he was featured in one of Jack Schwager’s recent Market Wizards books. He has managed money ranging from a few million to several hundred million dollars, gaining extensive knowledge of futures markets. Jason currently runs a one-man hedge fund using the CMR process.

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