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What's up everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rheanne Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. Happy Wednesday everybody. I hope the middle of your week is going swell. Maybe you've been spending all week watching the Olympics. Maybe you just want to
sit back and talk about that. Maybe you're up to date with The Bachelorette, which we have for you on this episode. We have a great little Bachelorette recap. A little bit of everything. A little bit of everything on this episode. We have a great recap with Trent. Obviously, we've been a bit behind on The Bachelorette, but...
But we are all caught up on this season and we're ready to dive in each week. And we wanted to kick off our Bachelorette recaps this week with the one and only Trent, who does it best when it comes to Bachelorette recaps. So we'll get to that later in the show. We also have our music segment. But first, how are we feeling today?
Good, I'm a little chilly in here. It is a bit nippy. But it is, it's just one of those days though, you know, it's like a little cloudy, rainy day in New York where you just want to, when the AC's blasting, you just want your blankie. And I'm kind of like, I don't know, my shoulders were cold, but now I just have one shoulder out, but that's okay. It's a look. Did you have a blankie growing up? No. No.
I didn't either, but I know so many people who did that couldn't have sleepovers unless their blankie was with them. And it was like, okay, well, we need to go back to your house. We need to go back to my house because my blankie's there. It's like how they would act, which is fine. I had stuffed animals, but not...
But not ones that I was attached to that I couldn't sleep without. Yeah, no. And it almost made me feel like, was I missing out on that? Was I missing out on having a blanket? The baby blanket thing? Yeah. I remember having one, but I wasn't like so attached to it. No, I think most people do move away from it. There are some that, you know, would carry around what looks like a literal rag. Right. It's turned into a rag at this point. I was actually driving home with my friend from the wedding yesterday.
over the weekend and she had a blanket in her trunk and I was a little cold in the back seat so I grabbed it. She was like, oh, it's my baby blanket. I was like, what? She was like, well, it's not actually my baby blanket because...
I she lost hers when she studied abroad um and this was it was just a new blanket that she just claimed because I was like I was like man I was like there's no way this is your baby blanket it's in great condition yeah you're 30 years old this is a replacement I'm like this is just a nice blanket yeah yes like she just put sentimental value on a new blanket right a baby blanket is not a nice conditioned blanket a baby blanket's been through some shit definitely um
You know what I was also thinking in the shower? And it's funny because it's actually the same exact friend that I was with. But I was in the shower this morning and I was thinking about how when I would wash my hair when I was younger or like, you know, you're learning how to wash your hair on your own. My mom really, really hammered home like to use a...
pea-sized amount of conditioner like just a small amount of conditioner because I think when you're younger I mean you feel it now sometimes but like when you use a lot of conditioner and your hair when it just like feels so soft that you just want to use like a ton but then your hair like the next day you have to shower again because it makes your hair greasy and I remember her just being like you can only use this much mm-hmm
And I was like, okay. And then I remember going on vacation with this exact same friend that I was just with and her family. And, you know, we were probably like fifth grade-ish around that time. And there was a really – the place we were staying, I remember, there was a really cool –
big shower situation. So all the girls, like it was like, you would have her bathing suits on. It was like all the girls go like wash your hair or whatever. And she always had like shorter hair and she used the biggest blob of conditioner ever.
And I was like, I thought she was going to get arrested. Like, I was like, oh, you can't use that. Did you feel like your mom had been lying to you almost? Yes. Yes. Because she always had lovely hair. So I was like, oh my God, she uses this much conditioner and I'm not allowed to? How come she's allowed to use it and I'm not? And you probably...
you like no but you know me i was exact 100 like you were probably like i can't go over this p amount and you know me like i was i i was extra bossy then so seeing her i was i was like i was like that's wrong oh my gosh and how did she react she's like i've been doing this forever it's fine she's like you can use however much conditioner she was like it makes my she was like it makes my hair so soft and i was like okay
But then I remember being like, but don't you have to wash your hair again the next day? I could totally see you doing that. And she was like, yeah, she did. She washed her hair every single day. And I think that was, it was always because my mom was like, you don't have to wash your hair every single day. So you use a small amount of conditioner. And yeah, but I don't know why I was just, I was literally putting conditioner in my hair in the shower and just like had a flashback because we brought it up.
is I always run out of my shampoo before I run out of my conditioner. Well, that makes sense because I think people always use less of their conditioner. Yeah. For myself, I never put conditioner on the top of my head. No, I normally don't as well. Just the bottom, but like...
I don't. Like the middle of my head. I use. Like right here. I use more than. Well you have a lot of hair. Than a pea amount. Yeah. And I don't even go up that high. I really just like the. Like if I was going to put my hair in a low pony. Yeah. Literally just from here down. Yeah. Is where I put the conditioner. Sometimes if I wear my hair naturally wavy. Which can get a bit knotty. Yeah. I will just pat the top of my head with a little bit of conditioner. But I won't rub it in. Yeah. I'll just pat it a little bit. Yeah.
Conditioner talk. But that was my thought. That was my shower thought today. Did you ever go back to your mom and say, Mom, you lied to me? My friends are using more conditioning than you told me I could use. I think so. I don't recall that conversation, but I definitely feel like I remember being... I don't even know if I brought it up to her or if I just thought, wow...
I can use however much conditioner I want, really. Exactly. I'm in the shower by myself. There's no cameras in here. Yeah. Would be illegal. No. So I can totally just do as I please here. The world is your oyster when it comes to conditioner. Uh-huh. I don't... Listen, I don't want to give free shout outs, but I'm going to have to. Did you see...
the Leah from Love Island TikTok that went viral of her talking about her shower routine and which soap she uses and lotions. No. Okay, so she posted this before she went on Love Island. Oh, okay. But it went viral while she was on the show and it's like all these people are buying stuff. I bought one of the products. Yeah. Holy fuck. What is it? The Lush Sticky Dates. Lush. The Sticky Dates Shower Gel.
So, like, you wash yourself with, like, a normal... Like, a, you know, a soap. Yeah. Like, an antibacterial soap or, you know, whatever soap gets your suds and dirt and, you know, residue off your body. And then you go over with the shower gel. Holy fuck. This shit smells incredible. Like, I was, like, I...
have to try this because I saw so many other people buying it and I was like fuck like I don't want to be so behind on the wave of so many people buying this and
and i so i bought it and oh my god it's incredible it smells what does it smell fucking incredible like like vanilla like oh my gosh excuse me but like also maybe like i don't want to say coffee but it says fresh batch arriving soon i wonder what that means
It's in stock. You can buy it. It's not coffee. I have to smell it again. Oh no, but there is a delay right now. It says...
The shower gel is ideal for after fasting when the skin needs a little extra TLC. Lather on moisture-retaining organic date syrup, soothing sandalwood oil, and cleansing orange juice for a hydrating shower that will leave your skin feeling revived, renewed, and refreshed. It's fucking incredible. Yeah, so there's vanilla, benzoin,
It has a strong vanilla. I don't know what benzoin is. But yeah, it says the two main ingredients that is listed. But it looks amazing. The Lush... People, I feel like, moved away from the Lush products. I feel like the Lush products...
everyone was buying them in in like high school because they had the uh the bath bombs i feel like they were the first real big ones with the bath bombs were big yeah yeah but let me fucking tell you she she was on to something with this she was really on to something because holy shit it smells incredible shit i might i was lathering myself up
I was like Matt you gotta get in here and smell me right now I was like you gotta come smell this shit immediately oh my god he ate that shit right up like oh I gotta it was it smells unbelievable wow yeah mm-hmm mm-hmm it's elevated your shower experience mm-hmm I used it for the first time yesterday and yeah
I didn't want to get out because it stuck after. Like, I got out of the shower after and I still smelt it on me. Yeah, that was my question. I was going to say, could you still smell it? I, like, lather myself up in lotion after I get out of the shower always. And now I'm like...
do I now need to get the lotion to match the smell? Does that exist? It does. I was like, do I need to get the lotion to match the smell? Because I love the way I smell after the shower, but I have to lotion myself up after. But the lotion is kind of taking away. You know what I mean? And I'm like, oh, do I now have to get the lotion to match? But I don't want to get sick of the scent either. Yeah. Sometimes when I'm feeling...
That way when I really want the scent to stick, I'll do the Sol de Janeiro body wash and then the lotion. And then the lotion with it. It's like the combo really locks it in. Really locks it in. Yeah. So I'm like, fuck, do I have to do that? But I don't want to get sick of the smell. I don't know. All I know is I was, I loved it. Like I was like, is this going to be overhyped? And I was like, oh my God. Good tip from Leah. Yeah, it was. And.
Any other? Did you order anything else she used? No, I didn't. Just by watching, like you can tell she has amazing skin. Yeah, she does. And so when she was talking about like her body skin routine, I was like, I got to try one of these. There's other products like lotions and stuff, but I've seen very, very, it depends on what you like the smell. And I, and I like the lotions I use. So I really just wanted to try this shower gel. Right. And
Because some people don't love this. I love a strong fragrance. Yummy, yum, yum. A strong fragrance when it smells like that. Yeah. Sign me the freak up. Oh my God. I got to try it. You have to. It's like, it's magical. Yeah. And I was hesitant because of the name. Sticky Dates. Sticky Dates, right? Yeah. Yeah, but. It rocks. It rocks. It really was. It's bringing the moisture. It did. It did. It bringing the good. And the vanilla. Oh, the good smell. Yeah.
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I think I asked you. You said you were cold. I was cold, but I'm good. Yep, yep, yep. Definitely. I'm so... I just... The Olympics takes over my brain when the Olympics are on. It's when the Olympics start and when the Olympics end. Once the Olympics end, it's gone. It's out of my brain. But for these 16 days...
I could not be more locked in. I'm trying to watch a little bit of everything. I was up watching the beach volleyball this morning. Women's gymnastics yesterday was amazing. Those girls are incredible. They're incredible. They are truly incredible. Watching them win gold and then immediately after being like, let's make TikToks.
I know right so relatable I want to do this one you can do that one I was so it was so relatable because I was like okay thank God I'm not the only one who's thinking about doing tech talk yeah in some of the biggest moments ever right like she or Sunni was like we just won gold all right now what what's our content and let me tell you immediately I had the tech talks on my page and I was like yep yep these were good here's here's the issue I'm having with watching the Olympics because I'm into you put any any of the sports on the TV yeah I'm watching it the
The problem is the timing to me is that like everything's happening because they're in Paris. So they're way ahead. Everything's happening like in the middle of the day or in like the morning. But then they do play at prime time. But here's the thing. You already know what happens. Right. So like the gymnastics, I didn't get to watch live. I already knew what happened. Right. And then I got to watch, which is...
To me, takes away a bit of the excitement. It definitely does, but I do still like to watch in primetime because there's so many fun tidbits. There are. Packages, messages from their parents. There are. I just find it hard to watch. When it's happening during the day, it's hard to keep up with. Absolutely. Now, you know me. I'm a TV addict. Yeah. And I watch TV on my phone all the time. So I've been just throwing Peacock, Gold Zone, and
Incredible invention. It is really cool. Really? Gold zone? That was a great idea. Whoever thought of that, if you don't know, it's basically like, you know, on Sundays there's red zone where just they show
all the scoring plays around the NFL gold zone you're not missing one one medal and if there isn't a medal being you know it's not a final they are jumping from different events and showing you highlights and doing all those things so like throw just throwing that up and just seeing what's going on it is helpful I had that on the TV I'm not somebody who watches TV on my phone ever yeah so
So I find that hard to do. But when it's on the big screen, I'm into it. The women's rugby team, obsessed. First time they've ever meddled. They won bronze. They are so cool. I do not understand rugby at all. I really don't. Who knew a rugby match was that quick? These games are...
It was like 30 minutes, maybe. It was crazy. So fast. And then they were playing Australia for the bronze medal. And Australia, all my terminology is going to be wrong. Australia scored. That's okay. Australia scored and there was like no time left. No time left. And one of the American girls just, she broke a tackle. I don't even know if they're called tackles. She broke a tackle.
ran the whole length of the field, scored, game over. They win. It was incredible. It was a walk-off. A walk-off. It was a walk-off. I don't even... Walk-off home run. It was amazing. Yeah. It was a walk-off smash touchdown home run hit.
And they were freaking out. They were so excited. And it was amazing. I am obsessed with Alona. I think she is so cool. She's massive on social media. And then I was saying on Twitter last night that her sister, Olivia, is the one that invented girl dinner. She was the one that went viral. Wow.
For girl dinner first. So not only are they extremely athletic and talented, they also are social media moguls. Uh-huh. Exactly. So really cool. I would love to have her come on the show. I'm sure they'd do a press tour once. Bring that bronze medal in here, baby. As soon as the Olympics over. Yeah, of course. Not right now. Very busy right now. Of course. When they're back stateside. But...
that was, that was awesome because they're getting, they're getting more recognition. She made a funny video too with Jason Kelsey being like, Hey, you know, like flavor, flavor, sponsored like the women's water polo team. Let me tell you, flavor, flavor is awesome. Yeah, he is. He really is. I,
I also love that he Flavor Flav champion of women. Yeah, he also really corrected everybody because people have been typing out Flava Flav and he's like, it's Flavor. Excuse me, it's always been Flavor. It's Flavor Flav. But yes, he's like, he's all in with the women's water polo team. So, and Jason Kelsey was wearing a shirt yesterday with Alana's face all over it, which was awesome. So everyone's getting into the, everyone's getting into the spirit. I saw such a funny TikTok of this group.
This girl being like, she was talking about her mom, but she's like wheezing because she's laughing so hard. She's crying. She was like, they were watching water polo and the mom was like, I could do like, like this is just handball and water. And the daughter's dying laughing because she just thought they were like,
playing in the shallow end of the pool and that they could just stand the whole time which they cannot no water polo is a wild fucking sport um i can barely tread water on it on my own i was gonna say you're not gonna catch me in the deep end for long no with no float no so and the men's gymnastic team robbie fox's doppelganger oh my god it's so funny it's incredible they look exactly the same
People keep talking about the Italian swimmer. The Italian swimmer, Thomas Chacon. Hottie. The swimmers really get objectified. The swimmers and the divers, they really do. I saw a clip of him where he took off, you know, the hair mask. Yeah. And the hair cap. Yep, yep, yep. And people were like, he knew that was his time in the shop to take off the cap. The TikToks are so funny. People are...
I saw somebody made a TikTok about him and the first comment was to all the swimmers I've loved before because people think he looks like Noah Centineo. Oh my God. Honestly, a little bit. Yeah, there is. There's a little Noah Centineo in there. A little bit for sure. Yes. So there's just been some amazing moments. That men's gymnastics team I'm absolutely obsessed with. They're so cute. They're absolutely adorable. And, you know, Steven, the Robbie Fox doppelganger, is just like he had one job.
He just came in. He had to do the pommel horse. He fucking delivered. And he delivered. He took his glasses off. He was sitting there for two hours, glasses on. And when the time, he said he's terribly cross. And when the time came, when it was time, whip those glasses off. He didn't need the glasses. Rode that pommel horse.
And got out of there. And got out of there with the bronze medal. Yeah, he didn't need the glasses. No. And of course, he's adorable. He's like, he's got a girl. He's like talking about his girlfriend. He's like, oh, you know, they met freshman year of college. Like they've been dating for eight years. Like he's fucking adorable. So sweet. So, so cute. Yeah. I mean, and there's always a lot of other fun events and things that you watch that you've never watched before. Like I'm watching fencing. Fencing.
ping the i'm sorry table tennis yeah excuse me not ping pong if you're gonna talk about it i'm so sorry table tennis table tennis do not belittle them to ping pong there was a great uh this horse going viral for the dressage because the horse it's certain music so it's like they call him the edm horse but he's got great moves yeah there's a there's a lot happening surfing's been cool
That one guy who mooned everybody, that happened over the weekend, I think. There's no short of content because there's something always happening. No, no. And happening ahead of our time, so we're waking up to it. Exactly. And the USA girls, they've been getting a little sassy because, you know, Michaela Skinner, previous U.S. gymnast, did make some comments of, you know, talking about their worth ethic now and things like that. Yeah.
She's eating her words for sure. It's like, hello, gold medal. Yeah. Love it. The gymnastics is never going to not be like the most amazing thing in the world. Like every... But doesn't it just like... Since you're a little girl, you're just like, holy shit. It just fucking crushes me when... I mean, the US is fantastic. So they're, you know, they're always pretty solid. But when they're like our other...
that are, and they're so young and they're, and they mess, they fuck something up and it's just like, that's it, you know? Like one of the Chinese girls is, she's like the best on the uneven bars. The best. One world's like so good. Totally fucked up her routine. And I'm just like, ugh. It's the big stage. It's, you know. It's the bright lights of the Olympics. It really is. It really is. That shit, gymnastics is crazy. How do you even wrap your head around you're at the Olympics? So you gotta like, be like, I'm,
Not at the Olympics. How do you do that? Some of them, I mean, there is a 16-year-old on our own team, but some of them are 16. It's insane.
16? Genuinely insane. Yeah. Oh, God. I know. It's like I'm so excited for them, but at the same time, I feel bad for them. It's the same with the skateboarders. Like, there are skateboarders that are, like, 12. Like, it's, like, 13-year-old, 14-year-old skateboarders. Skateboarding, you start young. You do start young, but it's... You're not picking up skateboarding at an older age. No, no, no. Skateboarding, you are starting young. Same with gymnastics. But these, like, some of these girls winning these medals, they're babies.
Yeah, I mean, you can't flip when it comes to a certain age. You can't learn how to flip when it comes to a certain age. Right, right. That is fair. You're flipping early and often. That is fair. It's not coming at a later age. I'll tell you that. Yeah.
So once again, just absolutely locked in to all the coverage. And so is the world. So is Snoop Dogg as well. Snoop Dogg's also everywhere. He's just been a part of the NBC coverage. And he's cheering on everybody. Snoop Dogg's always going to be a part of anything big. I saw...
Connor Ward's fibula post a TikTok that really made me laugh because he was like, I'm watching the Olympics and they keep showing Michael Phelps. And, you know, I just kept thinking, like, what did he do again? What was it like? Like tax evasion? Like he kept naming like all these really bad things. And then he was like, oh, no, no. He just like he smoked weed one time. No, it was.
when michael phelps got caught smoking the bomb was like the end of the world the world stopped yeah that it was like when nick jonas got diagnosed with diabetes it was that was like that was like oh my god is he going to jail yeah it was like holy fuck oh my god he got caught smoking yeah it was crazy an athlete the way people talked about him after that
He was shunned. Unbelievable. Yeah. And it was, yeah. And now looking back, it was like, oh, he was smoking weed. Yeah, that was crazy. Crazy. Yep. Crazy. Yeah. All right. Well, let's get into the rest of the show. We have our, our, why can't I speak? We have our music segment. Yep. Cito playlist, adding some more songs to the playlist. We're also going to be talking about Halsey's Tumblr post about how she's back and how her fans are treating her. As long as Britney Spears is alive,
Posts about Halsey and Ozzy Osbourne's post about Britney Spears is the long web. Jax Taylor has entered an inpatient treatment center. And Karl Radke from Summer House opened up his new bars, opening up his new bar, soft bar and cafe. And we have Bachelorette recap with Trent. So let's get into it.
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So there's a lot going on right now with Halsey and Britney Spears. And of course, we got Ozzy commenting about Britney Spears. But let's start from the beginning. Halsey released her new single, Lucky. And now when she released this new single, people were questioning, oh, did you get Britney Spears' blessing? Did you get Britney Spears' blessing? And she said, of course, she wouldn't have dreamed of doing this without getting Britney Spears' blessing. Right.
From there, Britney Spears apparently posted about Halsey on her Instagram saying,
And it was quickly deleted. Twitter. Sorry, Twitter. And it was quickly, quickly deleted. She shared a post stating that she was upset and she felt like she was bullied by Halsey's music video. And then later on, Britney Spears clarified that she never shared the original post and that it was fake. So I don't know what happened there. It was like it was up. It was down. All of a sudden she said she never shared that post.
And Halsey said that she had gotten Britney Spears's permission and her blessing to, you know, yeah, use lucky and all of that.
From there, it seems like Halsey has gotten a lot of negative feedback on her single from people who are supposed to be fans. Now, Halsey has long struggled with a lot of health issues. She suffers from lupus and she has undergone a lot of treatment and said that she almost lost her life. Her struggle with lupus has taken a toll on her.
Yeah. And she has like some rare disorder that...
I cannot pronounce. Yeah, there has been a lot going on with Halsey and her health. She has, you know, taken the time to try to get better and has been a long path for Halsey. She came back with this single and she's gotten a ton of like negative feedback. Now she posted to her Tumblr, which she shares her thoughts on her Tumblr and Popgrave posted this from her Tumblr where she wrote,
My own fans are hands down meaner to me than any other people on the planet. Not speaking for all of you, of course, but it used to be just a minority that were awful to me. And now it seems like a majority have only stuck around to chime in occasionally with their opinion of how much they hate me or how awful I am. It's hard to want to engage in a space that is completely devoid of any kindness, sympathy, patience, or to be honest, human decency.
especially after years of hiding from the interactions for fear that this exact thing would happen. I don't know, man. I almost lost my life. I am not going to do anything that doesn't make me happy anymore. I can't spiritually afford it. When I got sick, all I could think about was getting better so I could come back and be a part of this again. But I don't even know what this is anymore, and I want to crawl in a hole, and I regret coming back.
You know, I feel bad for Halsey. It's like, unfortunately, the way that the internet works, it has created a space for so many great things to happen and for so many people to connect and so many great opportunities for artists and artists.
in so many different industries to come together and use the internet. But unfortunately, there's also a space for comment sections and comment threads where people can voice their own opinions so loudly directly to the person in which I don't think people were designed to be this way, to always be getting negative feedback thrown at them. So I understand what Halsey's saying where she's just like,
it seems like human decency is out the window. And a lot of times it does seem that way. It's like, there's no, you know, boundary between a keyboard and the phone or a computer. Like there is literally no boundary. People just go, go, go, go, go. And nothing can stop them because they're literally behind a screen. And unfortunately it's never going to end. Like we've reached a point of no return and it's,
It's never going to get through people's heads. As sad as it is. And how unfortunate as it is for Halsey. Like her own fans are attacking her. Some people will never fucking get it. Like they just won't. And it's sad. Yeah the um. The whole. Like fan culture has evolved and changed so much. As well. And now a lot of times. I think especially with. I'll be careful with my words. But sometimes I think the younger fans.
Generation holds people to an insane standard that nobody can live up to. Yeah, they forget that they're human beings. That nobody can live up to. And especially with... And super fans can do it sometimes too. Or fandoms, they kind of get the mob mentality and once one of them...
Like once they start to think, oh, my God, is it funny if we start to critique her like this or do this or whatever? And I mean, it's not funny to her, I'm sure. But it's it gets to a point where no matter what she does, it seems funny.
her own fans are super critical of that and of the choices she's making and those things. That's what I'm saying. I just feel like sometimes they're just held to these insanely high standards that, like, you make one mistake or maybe one, you know, you say something you don't mean, you have to take something back, you have to apologize for something, you have to do, you're just lured
live in your life you human beings make mistakes sometimes and Halsey literally hasn't even done anything like it's like not even saying like she's not even saying like it's something that she's been sick like exactly
But it's crazy because sometimes the humanity just leaves a conversation. So I'm sure some fans just don't even care about that. They don't. And it's almost like, at what point are you a fan? Yeah. Are you a hater or are you a fan? Right. You know, like if you're constantly critiquing fans turn into haters. Right. It's like, hey, oh my God, I, I used to love listening to her music, but now like, and then they just spew off everything that they hate. But at the same time, there's,
still listening to everything she puts out. Exactly. It's almost like people want to find things wrong with people but don't. Like, they're upset when they find something wrong but they want to find it. And it's like, in this case, Halsey's just been sick. Like, she's been trying to help herself. Like she said, she's literally like almost lost her life. And she's just trying to help herself. She's a mom. And it's just...
It's just crazy the way that mob mentality can work where it's like somebody can just like come up with a narrative and then Everybody or like a lot of people jump onto that narrative and then it sticks and all of a sudden that's what she sees online Meanwhile, there are so many people that do support her But it gets drowned out by all the people that are yelling so loud about this one thing I'm just confused what happened
in here I'm like oh Halsey came back with a single now everyone's attacking her because she's been sick like I just it's it does not really making sense right it must just have been a you know a reaction that she was not maybe expecting yeah and I and I get like Halsey's reaction being like you know what fuck it like yeah I've spent too much time trying to get healthy and like have been scared of losing my life and
why am I going to put myself in the position to be unhappy? Like you have to live your life for you at some point. And it's just crazy. Like seriously, like there is just a lack of human decency. And like you said, that people are held to an insane standard where it's like, why are you holding everybody to these standards? And like, what about you as a human being? Like, what about yourself? Have you never like, and not even saying Halsey didn't do anything wrong. Like, I don't even know why this conversation is happening, but in terms of other people, it's like,
Are you Little Miss or Mr. Perfect over there? Like, I don't know. It's bizarre how these, you know, hives can take on a mind of their own. And...
I feel for Halsey like I don't know what the fuck happened here and I also feel like the Britney Spears post probably didn't help it like what like but like what was that maybe Britney fans originally saw that post and then jumped into hating on Halsey and like meanwhile Halsey said she got approval from Britney like I don't know what happened here all I know is I feel bad for Halsey that she's been struggling comes back with a new single and now she's like I'm about to peace out again because I don't know what's happening here right and it's also like Britney what
Right. Like, we're trying, Brittany. We're trying so hard. Yeah, and then on top of that... Who had your... Who had... She tweeted, fake news. That was not me and my phone. I love Halsey and that's why I deleted it. Like, who... Who had your phone? Who's tweeting that they're... That they're... That they... You feel violated and bullied by Halsey's new song. Like, what? I'm... And part of me is wondering...
Britney Spears not remember that she gave Halsey approval and that she just wanted to get mad at Halsey and then when she was reminded that she was given that she gave Halsey approval she was like oh wait no fuck I love Halsey and doesn't realize like that first post probably started this whole thing and
And then on top of that, we got Ozzy Osbourne apologizing for his thoughts on Britney. He just wants her to do new moves. Ozzy Osbourne just wants Britney to get new moves in there. That was a wild statement. He's sick of the same moves. He wants Britney to throw some new moves in there. He said... Yeah, he ended it with just maybe like change a few movements. Yeah. He said, I'm so sorry for making that comment. However, it would be better if you didn't do the same fucking dance every day. Change a few movements. What?
Kelly Osbourne quickly followed her father's comment. It was on their podcast. Kelly Osbourne quickly followed her father's comment with, I was going to say, Brittany, never stop dancing. I love your dancing. It makes you so happy and I'm sorry if we offended you. Ozzy Osbourne added that he is a fan of the artist but said that her dance moves were repetitive, to which Kelly Osbourne quips, no, sometimes she has knives.
True. Sometimes she has props. Sometimes she does have props. Good point, Kelly. Ozzy, let's see you get up there and shake that thing. Yeah. You got so much to say about Britney's moves. Yeah. What are you doing that's different every day, Ozzy? Yeah. Like...
And sometimes she has knives. True. She's got props, dad. Ozzy's like sitting at home, not impressed. Yeah, he's like Simon Cowell judging all of Britney's videos. Ridiculous. Oh, shit. Yeah, well, I don't understand truly what's happening there, but I feel for Halsey. And I don't think Halsey would ever use anything of Britney's
or anything like that without going through the right channels. I don't think so either. Because that is a dangerous game. No. And especially with Britney and Britney's fans, you know? Yeah. Halsey has always said for forever that she's a massive Britney Spears fan. Yeah, she was probably so excited about this and then boom. Moving on. Jax Taylor has entered an inpatient treatment facility. He posted on his Instagram story two books with a little healing...
you know emoji thing one of those things you can add on instagram i hope jax taylor finds the healing that he uh so badly needs yeah in my opinion like i i really think jax taylor he's long talked about his mental health struggles other struggles he has dealt with and for the sake of his family britney his kid like i think jax taylor being in an inpatient right facility
Good thing. Right. It feels like the first right move in a long time. His rep told Page Six Jax has always been candid about his mental health struggles, especially during the past few months on his podcast. He has made the decision to seek inpatient treatment. This is particularly sensitive for him and his family. They asked for privacy and respect until he is ready to speak more on this matter. So, yeah, it says that apparently he has been talking about how
after years of attempting to work with mental health professionals, he found an amazing doctor. He said in an episode in June, he met a doctor at his bar. Okay. Immediate question mark, but okay. I hope that's like, he said, I met a doctor at my bar and she's absolutely amazing. And he said he literally just like broke down and, you know, broke down to her and started talking to her. So it sounds like,
They've been working together and he's been working on himself and whatever, you know, he has to do to get himself right. It's the right, right, right move because I think he has been so not like he's been open about it. But then when it gets he just hasn't been able to take that last step. You know, he would talk about.
oh he's gonna go to the therapist oh he's gonna do this but then we literally you know we watched it at the end of the Valley season where he told Brittany he was gonna go and then it cut to his confessional he's like I didn't go so for him to actually go is a big step it is a huge step right so hopefully something something good comes from that yep
Last topic, still on the Bravo train, Karl Radke from Summer House announced the opening of his new bar, Soft Bar and Cafe. Now, this was met with immediate blowback because of the name Soft.
People thought that it was like a nod to Lindsay and how or a knock at Lindsay because of Carl asking her to be softer. And he named the soft. Now he was saying, no, it does not have to do with that. It's about soft drinks, soft drinks, soft cocktails, you know, soda stuff is considered a soft drink. These are soft cocktails. I will say this.
Could there have been nothing to do with Lindsay? Sure. Sure. Yeah. You got to go through every fucking possible thing in your brain before you pick an aim. Right. Like you have to be like, could this be taken the wrong way? How can this be spun? And I don't know how at this point these people aren't thinking like that. Right. How can this be spun into the, like, you know, you know, maybe, maybe they don't have an overthinking brain. Maybe they're not an overthinker, but in this case,
you got to overthink a bit because soft, it just was written in the stars for this to be spun into a Lindsay thing. Now I get it. Soft drinks. Yeah. Yeah. Carl told Page Six that the name was inspired by his European travels during which he came across several bars that called non-alcoholic drinks soft cocktails or softs. And I totally believe that. Yeah. I totally believe that was the motivation. It's just like,
How didn't you think that that would be spine? I'm going to say where my brain went. And I don't know if anybody is going to agree with me or relate to this or follow my path at all. And I don't mean this in an insulting way at all. Because obviously it is soft cocktails. Non-alcoholic is what he is thinking. But when I think of naming a bar soft, my brain...
goes to alcoholic drinks, which of course it shouldn't because his is a non-alcoholic bar. So I get the distinction. But for some reason, like seeing soft just made me think like limp dick. Yeah. Yeah. Soft. I don't. I. Right. It's just. No, I follow. I follow you there. You know, like you don't want to be like being. OK, here's the thing.
And that could be, I'm not, I really like, I don't know why, but that's just, that was the first thought that popped in my head when I saw soft bar and cafe. It could be how you interpret the word soft. Yeah. And sometimes soft is interpreted as a limp dick, soft dick. Yeah. Soft. Sometimes it's soft. Yeah. Yeah.
Now these are soft cocktails. Now here's the thing. This is why I mean how didn't he think everything through with this name. Right. You know? There was no other name out there. I personally just don't love the name. Yeah. Just because it's soft cocktails and soft drinks does the bar have to be called soft? Right. And then it's like
oh you're are you soft like you're soft for going to soft yeah you know it's like it shouldn't be soft yeah and like it shouldn't be well i think you just have to when you're naming a bar like you have to run every iteration of like hey want to meet up but soft let's go to soft yo soft tonight like you kind of like you have to stay at practice those things yeah you know let's get soft yeah
Let's head to softies. Yeah. Softies. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Softies. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. I don't know. So I'm happy that he's, you know, going along with his with his vision and his path and what he wanted to do. Yeah.
I am very glad that he's doing it because let me tell you something. I, as much as Lindsay thought that this was like a bad idea, I don't think it's a bad idea. I think it is. I think it's a good idea. I think it's a good idea. I think like the non-alcoholic market is growing and it's way bigger now. And to have a bar like this,
I find myself wanting sometimes, say, like football season, to go watch...
a game at a bar like around other people but and like have that camaraderie and like what what with like other people that are watching but like i'm like oh god i don't want to drink you know and sometimes when you walk in the bar it's like ah i'll have a beer yeah totally whatever but i think like i think it's such an it's a great option for people who want to go and just yeah and not drink yeah totally and for those that don't drink i just understand both like um
More so like the bar business is extremely hard to make money off of. And the way bars make money is by selling alcohol and how expensive alcohol is. And it's like, how much are you going to be charging for a non-alcoholic drink? Yeah, yeah. I would love to see his pricing. I think it's going to come down to prices like,
he's charging this much money for a non-alcoholic drink. And people might be like, I might just have like a soda at home or an iced tea at home. Well, he's probably has to get some decent food in there too. Right. If there's good food and things like that. I think the vision is there. I'm glad that he's following his path, but there are ways to make money and
People make money off alcohol. And I don't know how much you can charge for a non-alcoholic drink where people are going to be okay with paying that price for a non-alcoholic drink. Right. But... Or how many drinks are people buying out...
at the bar you know how many 18 non-alcoholic drinks totally and you're in new york right it's it's it is as tough as it comes around here to open a bar restaurant but wishing carl all the best seriously i i really like i'm glad he's following his vision i know and i hope it is um i hope it is a success yeah so totally yeah um
And hopefully people really can read people really connected the Lindsay thing. Yeah, they're stuck on a lot of people's immediate reaction. He's probably like, oh, I maybe should have like overthought this a little bit more. But yeah. All right. That wraps up topics. The CETO playlist and the what we're listening to segment is presented by Coors Light.
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All right, let's get into the Cito playlist where we add songs onto our Cito playlist. That's it, 10 songs each. We're going to add some songs to the playlist. We're going to add 10 more songs. We're going to add 10 more songs to the playlist. Yeah, where I am all over the place this week. Same. Seriously, I just sometimes just go off my playlist that I already have and I go, I'm adding that. Oh, I listened to that the other day. That's going on there. Right. I really am just basing this off like what I, like how I spent the week prior.
You know? Like mood wise? Yeah. Like what I was doing, what music was on, what I was listening to. Mine's like a little mix where it's like maybe it doesn't directly reflect my mood, but the song was definitely listened to in the past week. Right. Okay. You know? Okay. So let's get into it. You want to go first? Okay.
All right, so I was at a wedding this weekend. So that really dominated. So we shout at number one. Yeah, no. A lot of like playing music, getting ready, all the bridesmaids together, things like that, whatever. Okay, so I'm really all over the place. I'll start off with Party in the USA, Miley Cyrus. That's a jam. I was the one in charge of playing music on the bus from...
The house to the venue, which was pressure. But Party in the USA, always. Always placed. Always, always. Your 3000, Jonas Brothers. Throwback. Played at the wedding as well. Claire and I had our moment. It was great. Had to be played.
For a moment, I lost service and could only play songs that I had downloaded on my phone, which I don't have many, but I do have a lot of Taylor Swift. So long live Taylor's version, Taylor Swift. Throwback. I love this is long live is maybe one of my favorite Taylor Swift songs ever. I love it so much. Smooth Operator, Sade. Okay. She's a smooth operator. Yeah. Yep.
I don't really have a backstory to that, but it played while we were eating dinner. The only context to that song I have is that the TikTok sound that people use. Yeah. It's a great song. Um,
This Will Be, An Everlasting Love. This will be. This will be. Oh, God. And it also makes me think of The Parent Trap. Oh, it's the best. Which is great. The Parent Trap soundtrack for just playing like around weddings. The best. Slaps. It's great. L is for the way you look. That's an all-time favorite. Yep.
Signed, sealed, delivered Stevie Wonder This is where I was really getting into some Wedding songs We had to sing that in chorus When I was in middle school That's a good one That's a good one Unwritten Natasha Bedingfield Not really wedding-esque But just more in the sense That it gets the people going Yeah, it's a classic
This is like, and then I have a couple of randoms that I was actually listening to this week. I listened to some of New Music Friday. Didn't love. There wasn't really anything that was popping out to me this past weekend. But Calvin Harris did come out with a song with Ellie Goulding that I like. It's called Free. So that's on there.
Still listening to Chapel Roan. I've been talking about it, but it feels like every week, instead of just going 10 Chapel Roan songs at one time, I'm just putting one on each week. I'm just going one by one. That's fair. So now this week I'm putting, I will probably, I can sing it, but saying it always gets me. Phenomenon. Phenomenon. Phenomenon. Yep. Great song. And they've been using it in some Olympics promo and TikToks and stuff.
And then the last one I see, it's just on TikTok all the time and it gets stuck in my head constantly. And there's a new animated movie coming out. I saw the trailer for it and it looks right up my alley. It's about a robot that somehow finds its way into the wild and a little duckling, little baby duck.
like imprints on the robot like thinks the robot's its mom and the ducks it's so cute and little looks adorable and while the the song in that is birds of a feather playing so and i also feel like i just see it all here all the time and when i do hear it gets stuck in my head so last one is birds of a feather billy alish
Was that not on your first playlist? I don't know. I think it was. I think it was. I couldn't remember. And I didn't have, I didn't, I didn't feel like going all the way back to find out. If it is, don't add it again. Yeah. But I was listening to it a lot this week. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. So it may be nine new ones for me this week. It's a good list. Hidden all over the map. All over the map. All right. I'll go. First song I'm doing, Everlong acoustic version, Foo Fighters. We did listen to that on the car ride home.
because I did say that now I'm not going to give our first dance song away. I'm not going to tell people where my first dance song is, but we heavily debated that.
Ever long Acoustic version Foo Fighters It's just not slow enough The background It's It's not One that you could Slow dance to Easily But it is a beautiful People don't realize That it is a beautiful song Right Well you don't necessarily Have to slow dance I mean there can be Slow dance times But then it can become A little more high energy Yeah But it's just like We have our We have our We have our song Yeah Like 100% Like
We both cried listening to it. And when we cried listening to it, we were with math parents and they were like, I mean, this has to be it. Like you guys are sitting here crying. We were like, okay. So this was heavily debated. So we listened to that. So that's on there. San Francisco, Dom Dala. I'm really all over the map here. I don't know if I know. I was going to say, I don't know if I know it either. I'm sure if I heard it, maybe. It's like more, it's a good idea. Yeah. Dom Dala. So yeah. Yeah. Still the same. Bob Seger.
Great song. It's a good song. Great song. Evenflow. I was listening to Night Moves the other day. I was listening to Night Moves. Yeah, that's a great one as well. Evenflow, Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam was playing at Madison Square Garden in the beginning of September. Oh, really? Yeah. Sweet Disposition, John Summit. Is Sweet Disposition... Oh, wait, no. I'm thinking of something else. Ignore. Now I'm second-guessing myself. No, no, no, no. No, it's Sweet Disposition, John Summit. But does he sample...
The temper trap? Sweet disposition. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're more than a dream. Okay. Yes. That's him.
But he's saying she's sampled. He sampled that song on his song. Yeah, but I'm. You're picking the John Summit version. Yes, I'm picking the John Summit. You're picking John Summit's song. Yes. Yes. Acquainted, The Weeknd. Okay. We back to the one question about is that song on John Summit's new album? No. Oh, it's an old one. Okay. Acquainted, The Weeknd. Throwback right above it. Lil Wayne and Drake. That's a good one. Mm hmm.
My problem with a lot of rap songs is like you can say the name of them and I don't. That was the intro to Ballers. But it's like if I hear, oh. Yeah. Oh, then yeah, duh. That's what I'm saying. If I hear it, then I know it. Love song, L-O-V-E-E-E, Rihanna in future. Climax, Usher. I thought you were about to say Sarah Burrell. And then. Love song, Rock and Roll Jews. 10 Freaky Girls, 21 Savage. Okay. Okay.
Yes. I like it. That's my list. All right. My list is kind of all over the place too. All Yorn, Tyler Childers. I don't really know any of his music, but everyone's always like, he's amazing, he's amazing. And then I heard this song. Yeah, I heard a lot of hype about him. This is his most popular song, but he's pretty good. Blue World, Mac Miller, just puts you in a good mood. Makes me wonder what. Did you have that on your playlist? No, I had The Spins. Oh, The Spins.
makes me wonder maroon five fucking jam that's like such a good song yeah honestly they have a lot of good songs on that album too because i always go back to songs about jane the first one but makes me wonder such a banger like uh my first john mayer song that i'm putting on here uh neon it's a great one yep um 21 questions 50 cent classic dog that's another one that just like feels like a summer song
This Must Be the Place, Talking Heads. Yeah. It's a good one. That is used. I almost put that on my playlist. That song is used at a lot of weddings as well. Yeah. There's a lot of covers of that one too. I think Nora Jones just put out a cover of that song last week. Better Man, Leon Bridges. Good song. Yeah. Love me some Leon Bridges.
James Taylor. Sit on the beach drinking a beer? Yeah, have myself a chorus light on the beach. I love James Taylor. I actually dressed up for him for Halloween one year. Really? It was kind of just like... That's, yeah, an interesting costume. I feel like there's not really anything distinct there. I had like the scally cap because I had no plan and I'm like, who could I be? Who could I be? I'm like, I guess if I put this on, it kind of looks like James Taylor. Yeah. Yeah.
Did you know there's no like fake acoustic guitar or anything? No. Yeah, that's very hard to distinguish. I might have just been breaking up. I'm James Taylor, obviously. Duh. Yeah. I would just start singing Fire and Rain randomly. Yeah. Diamonds on the soles of her shoes, Paul Simon. That's a great song. And Can't You See, the Marshall Tucker band.
Can't you see? Yeah. That is one of Joe Riley's favorite songs. That's one of the best songs ever, maybe. I think it is on every single playlist he has ever made. I've probably listened to that song 200 times. That's one of the best songs to put on in the car. Oh my God. It's on the beach all the time. Yeah, there's no bad place for that song. All the time. It's never a bad time. And it's also... I also think...
I could be wrong, but I also think it is a song that they play in the last scene of One Tree Hill in the last episode. Really? Yeah. I'm glad I don't know that. I don't want to be thinking about One Tree Hill when I hear this. I know, and it does make me think of it. I have to fact check that. It's definitely the last scene of something. Yeah, it's been used before, but I think it is literally like the last scene of the last episode of One Tree Hill.
And that's it. That's your list? Good songs. Good songs all around, guys. Well done, everyone. 30 songs added to the Cito playlist. Which is on Spotify. You can listen on Spotify. And also, it's just great because you're getting every single mixture of songs you can possibly get on there. Sometimes it's new songs. Sometimes it's old. Sometimes it's wedding dance. It's every genre that you can think of. I did like that on our way to the Jersey Shore, Rhea's cousin, Fran, was like,
Oh, yeah. I listened to your playlist before coming here just to see if we were like on the same vibe. She was like, I made sure that we were all on the same vibe. Now I know me and her listen to the same music. Right, right. But she was probably thinking of everybody else. Yeah. But me and her have a very, very similar taste in music. All right. That's the CETL playlist.
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Yeah, we're little Mr. Travelers. I didn't go to Fiji. We're just ships passing. We really are. Ships passing in the night. Our planes are going all over. You guys went to Australia, though, so I mean. Yeah, what did you guys think of that flight? Australia and Fiji, close. Pretty close. They are. Fiji's way out there. I feel like people don't know that. Yeah, no. That's the first question everybody asked us. They were like, okay, you're going to Fiji. So cold. Now, where is Fiji? And how was the flight? I will say, you know, it wasn't too bad. We got treated.
Oh, wow. Ten and a half hours, LA to Fiji. Yeah, so we had to fly to LA six hours and then fly LA to Fiji. How did you guys get to Australia? We flew from LA. So we flew from New York to LA and then the flights were back to back. So we walked off and walked on, which was a nightmare. Back then, we did not get treated. So I was just...
I was for 16 hours to Australia just in there like a sardine. Yeah, that's tough. LA to Sydney? To Melbourne. Melbourne. Melbourne. I'm sorry. Yeah, excuse me. Did you watch the episode? I did, which yeah, it's ironic that they went there this year. Also, I'm the queen of pronouncing Melbourne correctly.
Oh, really? One time I said Melbourne on this podcast and you would have thought that I, you know, solved cancer. I saw that clip actually. Yeah. Yeah. You're, yeah. That's how you're supposed to say Melbourne. Although it looks like Melbourne. Exactly. So how's life been for you? We'll get to the Bachelorette recap. I know everyone's going to be like, we want the Bachelorette recap, but let's catch up with Trent for a minute. Things have been good. You know, just been like you said, I've been traveling like you guys. The Barstool Classic is all over. We film all over the place. Um,
I've already been to like 15 of those Barstool classics. So it's a lot of go, go, go. I'm not in New York City all that often anymore. 15. I know there's probably been maybe 13 and there's been 15 already and there's still 10 to go. Dang, there's so many. I know. PCB. PCB.
It's a lot of trouble. Well, I'd like to be the first to congratulate you on all your success. Oh, my gosh. Same to you. Well, I was going to say to you guys. We do that many Barstool Classics. 25 of them every year. Holy shit. Maybe 26, and then the championships in December. But I want to congratulate you guys. Since I've been on the show, you were named one of the most influential podcasts on the planet. True. And you went to Fiji and became the go-to podcast for Love Island. Also true. Oh, my God. It's almost like you guys are doing incredibly well. Thank you.
Thanks, Trent. Of course. And what a coincidence it's been since spending less time with you. I was going to say that too. I was going to say that. It's like, are you sure you guys want me to come on the show? Because during the stretches I'm not, you guys level up in a way that is like incredible. No, no, no. No, no, no. We freaking miss the shit out of you. We do. And the people miss you as well. I was thinking to myself last week, man, when am I going to see Trent again? I seriously thought to myself,
are we never going to speak to Trent ever again? And then you're here. So I'm really happy about that. Yeah, and it's also like we're taking a little hiatus from cutting stems, which I know people have asked about. And some people missed when we said it on the podcast, but we did say it on the podcast. We were taking a break from it. So we don't have as much scheduled...
time right around this show to all to all hang out you know what is funny is we do keep this jar on the desk and we do have guests ask us about it often oh i'm sure they're like what is that jar of money sitting on the table and we're like we have a man named trent who comes who misses a lot of things and when he misses things we had a deal and he had to put cash in the jar and there's thirty dollars in there which you know it's a lot of money it's not nothing i did um
We met somebody who's from Iowa while we were in Fiji. And I said, oh my God, do you know Trent Ryan? Yes. Oh. He's from Iowa. Oh my God, I didn't even realize that.
yeah and I said oh this it was just it was just me and him and I said I said oh my god do you know Trent Ryan because I just assumed oh yeah everybody in Iowa knows each other yep and he said I don't know him personally through Iowa but I know who he is because of Fort Bluff got it where's he from in Iowa do you know Cedar Rapids that's where I'm from I know that's what I said I said oh my god that's right where I said that's where he's from how did I thought maybe we would know each other maybe I'll tell you his name after that would be great and then maybe you would know him is he younger than me
No. I don't think so. Interesting. Somebody we were working with. Usually people from Iowa, I get they don't know. Cedar Rapids, it's not a small place, but you know a lot of people. I just was like, oh my god, he must know Trent. But he knew who you were, but not because of Iowa. I wonder what high school he went to. Do people just ask if you know Ashton Kutcher?
No. I don't think they'd think that I would know Ashton Kutcher, unfortunately. But it's one of those ones where it's just, I feel like that's the first person people think of when they think of- And he's from Cedar Rapids as well. The first person I think of is you. Thank you. Hands down. Well, around these parts, of course we think of Trent first. I wish I knew Ashton Kutcher. I'm saying I think a lot of people probably think Ashton Kutcher. I would think that's probably right, unfortunately. Or fortunately. How old is he?
Mid-40s, I would say. He ain't no Trent, that's all I know. No, no. I don't even know why we're talking about him when his name's not Trent Ryan. Him and Meele used to do, like they would come back to Cedar Rapids and do the holidays in Cedar Rapids. Yeah, yeah. People would see him at Target and go crazy. Mm.
Now they're going crazy over you? A little bit. When you go back to Iowa, what's it like for you? The Beatles? No, I'm kidding. No, it's actually pretty normal. What up, Trent? Hey. Yeah. When are you breaking 80? I know. It's usually when I'm golfing with my dad. At golf courses, they're like, oh, yeah. Does your dad get pumped? He thinks it's cool.
He doesn't show like that it's cool, but I think he knows that it's cool. That's my son. Yeah. My mom freaks out. Yeah. She like can't believe it. That's amazing. Every time. They still, I feel like, kind of don't know what I do. So they're like, they do. But when people recognize me in public every once in a while, they're like, wow. Are you happier now that you could say like you golf? Like I feel like years ago it was like I'm a blogger. But now you have like a little bit more to the resume. I don't know. I didn't mind ever saying blogger.
I always, I actually, this is actually like turned into a Trent Ryan interview. It's just a question. No, I don't think bloggers a bad thing at all. I always honestly took pride in the blogger thing. I like that. I, I, cause it's cause when you would say that to people, they'd be like, how do you make money doing that?
that and then it's the whole story of like what this place is yeah I'm rich because it used to be there used to be a lot of bloggers in the world that just like weren't making any money and they would work other jobs so to have a job as a blogger that actually made money and then have a story attached to it like this whole place yeah I always thought was very cool so
I always, I know, I guess I don't say blogger anymore because I don't blog, but I will say just golfing. I'm really happy to be here. Yeah, I'm really happy you're here too. Let's talk about the show. I feel like it's picked up steam the last couple episodes. Yeah, we haven't, we were behind, obviously we were traveling, so we haven't really talked about this season at all besides the premiere when Jen came into the studio, which was great. Yeah. And now we're through four weeks. Yeah.
They just, this last episode was in New Zealand, but they've been in Australia, New Zealand. So that part of the world, super cool. Right. Just off the bat like that. They just left the, I mean, they never even went to the mansion. Well, they didn't even go there in the first place. Yeah. Do we know why they did that? We didn't get answers. They didn't say. You can't go away from the mansion. I don't know. So I don't know if they just thought like, you know what, we're going to send them out
into the real world like right away just for some added spice. Okay. I do miss the mansion, but that's fine. Yeah, I don't know. And it's far. Maybe they had always planned on going like farther and farther away. They were going real far. Really far. So maybe they wanted more time in these far off lands. I think this is a great group of guys. I don't know about that. Like an interesting group. Oh, okay. That's what I mean. I don't know. They're definitely interesting. There's a lot of wild cards, but there's a lot of...
A lot of bickering. That's what I meant. These boys are catty. Cattier than some of the groups of girls of the seasons have been. A lot of these people do not get along, and they are just ready to start fights left and right, it feels like. Well, Sam M and Thomas N, they drive me crazy. Thomas N.
Thomas and I find to be absolutely hysterical because he just has a problem with everybody. Everybody. When he, this I think was episodes ago, when he came in and Devin was talking to Jen and he didn't even pull Jen to talk. He,
Devin to talk he was like hey you sir come with me I want to have a word with you and it was like Jen was like what the fuck is going on like it was crazy
crazy move barely went around the corner like they're like she can't hear us in here now let's get into a screaming match yeah and she was like this is crazy that's that's what I meant the guys are interesting in that they all hate each other yeah yeah I don't know if there's anybody necessarily good for Jen in this group yeah I don't know I will say I don't think Jen ends up with anybody or here I don't know if that there's one that I like I wouldn't blame Jen Marcus Jonathan
That was my other guy. Those are my two favorites. I wouldn't blame Jen if she doesn't end up with any of these guys. 100%. And I also am really sick of the he's not here for the right reasons argument because we can't do this every season because at this point in time...
none of them are there for like the one reason that they should be right like you're not going on this show at this point in time solely to get engaged like i think years and years ago when the show first started you really might be going on because you're like oh i have a chance of this might be my person i'm gonna get engaged i'm gonna find love from this
Now with social media and the way they become personalities straight off the show, I don't think you can say with a clear head that there's one person that's going on only for the reason of getting engaged because...
You know you're getting followers from this. So it's like you have to be okay with that and you have to sort of want it a little bit. Otherwise, why else would you do the show? Yeah, it just feels like it's always going to be a fight because no matter what, the people, there are going to be purists. Not all of them, but there are going to be people that...
not even purists, they're just gonna wanna stand on their high horse and think that they're better than the other people. And it's like, they're always gonna scoff at the ones that are like, yeah, this is a cool opportunity, like, wanted to come, like, we'll see what happens, you know, the Bachelor, Bachelorette's great, like, we'll see what happens.
And that's always going to piss another contestant off. Like, always. Because there's always going to be the person, the Thomas Enns of the world, that are on their moral high horse, and they're like, I'm here for the right reasons, though. And he's not, or she's not. It's always going to happen, even though it should be a part of the... It's kind of everybody, but it's at different levels for everyone, so there's always going to be the one that's like...
Gonna think he's better than the rest of them. Would you agree or disagree with this statement that, okay, maybe there are people there that are like only for the bachelor bachelorette, but is it to win or
Or is it because they actually are like, I want to get engaged? You know, like, I feel like there are some people that are like, I'm only here for the bachelor and bachelorette, blah, blah, blah. And then it's like, but are you here just because you want to win? You know, like, is your main goal winning? Or is it to like, actually like, to fall in love and like,
create a relationship. I guess my question nowadays is the incentive still there follower wise? No, it's really not. Right. Like it used to be a couple years ago, just even five years ago. You go on that show, you get hundreds of thousands of followers. Millions sometimes. If you make it far or you are the bachelorette or the bachelor, you just explode on social media. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't happen really anymore. The seasons of...
Colton season with those final four, it was like Hannah G, Cassie, all those girls, millions of followers. Hannah Brown, millions of followers. Tyler, million followers. Pilot Pete. All these people were getting millions of followers because their seasons were just so...
It was a different level, you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, like now it's going in waves again. It's waves because like I was just looking at like Daisy has almost a million followers. Yeah. Daisy is almost a million. But I was looking at because there's a lot of conversation about how many followers the Love Island people season six contestants are getting. Probably a ton. Millions. Oh, yeah. No, like Leah is the most followed Love Island contestant of U.S.,
and she has two point something million followers. 2.4. The show ended a week ago. Whereas Maria from last season, Joey season, who was by far the most loved contestant and like the most we've seen from somebody since I think Tyler Cameron hasn't reached a million followers yet. 616. Which surprises me. Really? Well, I mean, the truth of the matter is that Love Island just took the mantle. Right. I think it was tough.
With this season, if we're being completely honest, with this season of Jen's season and Love Island really finding its stride. Just unfortunate timing. Love Island ending right when this season was starting was not good. It wasn't great timing. But I will say I think now with this season kind of heating up a little bit with the drama, I do think that Jen's season is going to pick up steam. Yeah.
A lot of these guys are creeping me out on this show. Yeah, fair. A lot of like, I'm falling in love with you. And I'm like, week four. Yeah. Well, Sam N, he was a problem. I know he went home last night. Yeah, he was freaking me out a little. Sometimes I feel like there's a line where it's like entertaining, fun.
guy means well versus how did this guy make it on the show right like did we do a background check you know like right i feel like there's a line and with sam i was leaning towards the background check question mark i mean a leather jacket and he kept being like i was wearing my leather jacket like i and he's never been in a and that's fine to have never been in a relationship whatever um
I see why. Like the way he was acting. I'm like, yeah, I don't know if anybody would get into a relationship with you. If that's how you act. It was just peaks and valleys with him. He would be really mopey and like, I'm not deserving. I shouldn't be here. I shouldn't be there. And then last night's episode, he took on this cocky persona and was like the biggest asshole on the planet. And it got him sent home. So I don't know. Yeah, Sam N was...
He was a strange one. Yeah, they're like, can I kiss you? And she was just like, yeah, this isn't going to be it. I mean, he was 25, so he's young. This isn't going to be it. So she sent him home. But yeah, I mean, there's just continued ongoing drama, it seems, with Sam and Devin every single episode. It seems like they have some kind of confrontation with each other. Devin is a strong personality. Yeah. For sure. For sure.
I don't know if I necessarily, like, put him in the wrong reasons category. I just think he rubs the other guys the wrong way. And they just don't like him. Like, because it's, like, it's kind of... I don't know. It...
I'm trying to gauge what's crazy is I'm watching the show back is interesting. The way we were doing is we were like catching up because we're not really a part of the, of the discourse right now. So I'm like, Oh, like what are people really saying about these guys? I don't, I'm not really sure. I see some, I see like what some of the fan accounts posts and some of the behind the scenes stuff. Yeah.
But like just watching the show, it's just like, all right, you boys, like you're being really annoying. Like you're just arguing for like, you just don't like each other. Right. You know, and that's okay. But we're in it. It's like, I feel like we're having a repeat almost. I'm having major, major deja vu with Sam M and fucking Sean Booth.
major deja vu. They give me the exact same vibe. Did you not like Sean Booth? I liked Sean Booth. I liked Sean Booth, but Sean Booth had a very kind of monotone cocky way to him. He didn't... When Nick Viall came in, he was like... I don't know. There was drama, but it wasn't... The way Sam talks to Jen in this...
I know I'll be good kind of way reminds me of the confidence that Sean had because Sean was kind of like that too. I have a question for you guys about that season. Yeah. Sean Booth, that was his first season, right? It was Caitlin's. And now Nick Viall came in late. Really late. He was on Andy's season first. And he was on Andy's season and they brought Nick in as a late addition for Caitlin and then him and Caitlin slept together and that was like a big thing. Yeah. Okay.
It just feels like they're kind of trying... I mean, granted, that happened further into Caitlyn's season when they brought Nick in, I think. Oh, yeah. But, like...
I mean, we're kind of, we're following a blueprint here. It seems like now all of a sudden, now all of a sudden they're bringing in, I know it's not somebody that we all know, but it's an ex-boyfriend. Yeah, sorry. Did they bring in Nick because him and Caitlyn had any sort of, you know, past flirtation? Yes. They had talked offline after.
There was like a little perhaps canoodling or maybe they had, they were talking online. I don't know if they had met in person. Maybe I think like once or something in like a group setting. Gotcha. And that was before she knew she was going to be the bachelorette. Gotcha. So it wasn't like here's some random guy. No, no, no. They had known each other. Let's bring him in. Which is why she kept him. Okay. I think the difference between Sam M and Sean Booth in my eyes is that
Sam M is the bad guy. I don't think Sean Booth was ever the bad guy. Nick ended up being the bad guy coming in late. I really like... Well, if you ask Sam M and Sam M's family, he's getting a bad edit. I can't imagine that's true. Is that what they're posting about online? Oh my God, they're on a fucking mission right now to prove that...
that he's getting the worst edit of all time his family his sister everybody's posting like crazy they're like we're gonna tell the truth about what's happening like sam's posting on all these different instagram things like he's smoking mirrors like he's like yeah no he's just he's adamant he's getting a bad edit i i don't know how that's it could be true but i don't see how it could be he's just got that attitude yeah he hates devon yeah he does not like him
Sam M's got that cocky, I'll give her what she wants. He clearly has with Jen that very strong physical chemistry, and that makes him very cocky. I think he's the bad guy. I don't think you can slice it any other way. Yeah. See, but I don't know if he's the bad guy. Because then what's Devin? Is Devin the good guy then? I feel like they're both...
Yeah. Like, you know, I just think they kind of make Devin make, they're trying to make Devin seem like the bad guy also a little bit. So I don't know. It's like the other guys all don't like him either.
I know. So it's like, it kind of, they got both of them. I don't know. It's confusing to me because I think, and I got bad vibes off Sam from the beginning. 100%. I mean, Jen sat here and I was like, you gave Sam the first impression, Rose. Girl, what are you thinking? And I wasn't even looking at her face because I didn't want to see her reaction because I'm like, what if she makes a face right now that's like, oh, fuck. I will say. And I mean, it seems like they have such a good connection at this point. Like, he could end up going far, but...
watching this season and catching up and not looking online at the online chatter i actually do enjoy because it makes it easier to form an opinion in my like in my eyes where it's like i'm just watching this i have no idea what people are saying online that's a great way to do it so removed from this season and now i'm caught up and it's like this is just my opinions and i have no idea what other people are saying about it's a great way to do it i'm team devon
I'm fully team Devin. I don't mind. I really, I mean, I think Devin's kind of obnoxious, but like that's not, you know, I don't think he has bad intentions with Jen. Like the way I look at Sam M is he is like dead set on getting to fantasy suites. Right. He just seems douchey.
And like he, Jen falls into the trap of when they're on the top of the building and he's being like his cocky self, clearly not reading any of the signals of how she feels. And then he shows her one ounce. He didn't handle that well. He didn't handle it well at all. But he shows her one ounce of like, come here, baby. I'll come for you. She's like, oh my gosh, I'm, Sam M is the best. For sure. So I just think that's my perception of Sam M is he's clearly has a goal of like,
I'm trying to sleep with Jen. Yeah. And Devin to me, I don't know if they have a great connection. He got the one on one in this last episode as well as Sam M. Like they seem like they jive pretty well. Yeah. And they seem like they bonded off like similar issues growing up with their dads. And there was it was a good it was definitely a good date. I think she does like him.
And I think he does like her too. Like, I don't know. Like I, it feels like Devin's has, Devin has purer intentions with Jen than Sam does. I agree with that. And only one of them keeps saying, keep the main thing, the main thing. And I like the guy who doesn't say that over and over again. Keep, they keep saying that. Right. It's driving me crazy. Even Thomas N started to say it. Yeah. They're like, keep the main thing, the main thing. It's like, I'm going to, I'm going to go insane. So it is kind of wild. And I don't know if this is a, I don't know if this is a spoiler. Yeah.
It's I don't maybe I won't say it. There was just there's been some also rumors floating around of Sam's intentions going on the show as well. OK. You know, if you or someone you know is getting married, it's your lucky day. We know from personal experience that wedding planning can be stressful, which is why we're so excited to introduce you to Generation Tuck's.
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How do we feel about the ex-boyfriend coming back? I mean, come on, Matthew. What do you do? Joining the Bachelorette in this way is just so... He's in frickin' Auckland. It's just so... Wait till they come back stateside. It's just so fake to me. I don't know. I just find that to be like... He had plenty of opportunities, I'm sure, to declare his love...
to her well she said that and like i'm sorry there's just no way i don't believe it they can they can convince me he did it on his own there's no way i'm believing that guy flew from fucking cartagena from a wedding straight to new zealand on his own dime on his own to crash the show yeah i don't believe that and also and also he had plenty of time because
jen was on joey season of the bachelor yeah so like she was already on a whole other show not with you how long have you guys been apart now right you know what i mean like this isn't this isn't a very recent breakup anyway it did sound like there was some sort of reconnection where she thought they were friends yeah and then apparently he had started a tiktok account with his dog while she was on the show interesting matthew
Okay. Yeah, I wasn't buying this at all. Like, he's like, I'm not ready for her to get engaged. It's like, okay, well, she's ready to move on.
She even said like, why didn't you say this to me like eight months ago? Literally, it doesn't seem like it was very fresh. She was on a whole other season of The Bachelor. And the way he was like, I kind of told you. It's like, no, you clearly didn't. You clearly didn't. You wanted some declaration. And then he says, I am in love with you. He says it. And she's like, Matthew, this is nuts. I don't know. There's no... I don't think there's any...
I just don't find that to be a real world scenario where some guy has like an epiphany that, oh my God, my ex is now the bachelorette and I fucking love her so much and I have to run to the show. And not only do I have to run to the show, like if anything, you're trying to fuck up the show. If anything, you're going and you're like, I love you. Let's like leave.
right yeah if anything you're not like you know what i want to join all the other men and here's the thing like yeah oh you're going online being like me and jen had something like what the fuck like let's end this season like you're not flying to auckland new zealand to be like let me join the cast you know let me fight for your love you know who ate it up jesse palmer
What do you mean he ate it up? He was fucking a part of the planting of this happening. He was like, we've never had anybody fly out here on their own dime. This is incredible. The triple screen. Oh, yeah. I love that Jesse Palmer just hook, line, and sinker. Fell for it. Here's the thing. He may have flown out on his own dime, but they gave him the option to do it. You know? He may have flown out on his own dime, but they said, if you want to, you can fly here. You have to pay, but you can totally do it. You'll be on the show. I mean, he had to have...
He had to have some communication with somebody. How would he even know where they were? No, of course. Great point. Of course it's a production thing. Unless he's on the phone with reality Steve being like, Steve...
It's also... Tell me where they are right now. You can't just walk onto the set of The Bachelorette. Also, a safety issue. We gotta check this guy. We can't have psychos flying and joining the show and then what are their intentions? They're not just letting random men walk onto the set of The Bachelorette and being like, I'm so-and-so's ex-boyfriend. No, no, no. No, they can try to tell us that story, but it's not true. No, it's not. The production had a lot to do with that. Let's all see it for what it is. Maybe he did pay for himself, but they gave him the option to do it. They said, you can come here if you pay.
How about Jesse Foley? Jesse Foley embracing his bachelor past with, he was like, Jen, you want to hear some bachelor trivia? Why don't people eat on the dates? And he's like, it's because of me. And they started showing old clips. You know, for the longest time, he would like deny that past. Yeah, he really was anti-bachelor. And now he's... In his sports career. Now that they're getting him a paycheck. You know what? Yeah, exactly. I feel like now he's like, this is a cushy job that I want to keep.
He's traveling the world. Oh, he's going to all these restaurants. Yeah. He loves it. I downloaded the college football game that everybody's talking about, and he's like a main staple on the broadcast of those. Jesse Palmer's living his best life. He's probably got a nice paycheck for that. Oh, yeah. He got a good deal.
He got a great deal. He got a great deal for sure. And he's loving life. And they're, you know, on the other side of the world. And he's loving life. But, yeah, I don't know. All in all, guys, I'm really not impressed with this group of men. I'm not going to lie. Like, I don't, like, there's no stars in this group to me at all. I agree. There's nobody who's like, that one, that one's going to make it. I think they really failed Jen on casting this season. I am not, like...
None of them give me butterflies. I'm like, ugh. None of them. No. I like Marcus. I think he's sweet. I like Jonathan. I think he's sweet. But I'm not like, oh my God, no.
The chemistry between the two of them is amazing. Yeah, Marcus, Jonathan, I like Dylan. Yeah. They're sweet guys, but I'm like, I don't know if sometimes... They don't have pizzazz. Yeah. The only one she has chemistry with, like, really, is Sam M in, like, a very physical way. Yeah, I know. It's a very physical thing. But the way that the casting goes sometimes when it's such a quick turnaround of Bachelor to Bachelorette like this...
they kind of fail the lead because they're casting months and months and months prior.
So, sure, maybe last minute they can switch some things around. But especially around the conversation of this season of The Bachelorette. And, oh my God, who's it going to be? And there were multiple options and all these things. These are not guys that were picked for Jen. Right. I don't think they were guys picked for anybody that were in the options of being The Bachelorette. Right.
anybody that was a Bachelorette, we'd be saying these guys were not picked for them. I'm just not blown away by any of them, to be completely honest. I'm trying to think if there's anybody that, yeah, not really. This is like the first season where normally I'd be, and granted, we are behind, and I have been not my normal dedicated self to it, where I can name every single contestant, no problem. At this point, like week four, I got everybody down. No.
I know. I do think that has to do with the fact that we just caught up on the episodes. Oh, absolutely. But still, none of them are sticking for me. None of them are sticking. How about Jen playing lacrosse in college? Incredible. Yeah. Awesome. Cool. I was like, there's all these little tidbits. They were throwing around lacrosse ball. They're like, yeah, you know, we both played lacrosse in college. It's like, oh, okay. The more I watch this show, though, the more I realize we never learn much about the lead.
Yeah, it's true. It's pretty rare. Season after season, I'm like, we're not learning much. You learn way more about the group than you do the main, for sure. Yeah. It's all very emotion-based for the lead. I'm feeling this way. I'm feeling that way. But she's not telling stories. And you know they have big personalities. That's why they become the lead. Yeah. Yeah.
So, of course. Yeah, we learned a lot about her in the Devon date. I like that date. That was a good date. That was a good date. Instead of jumping off of something or out of a plane, they were just like, let's sit and talk about what we think the future could look like. Yep. That was nice. Yep. So, I mean, I don't know. You're like, more my speed. Yeah. It was. I was like, well, like, would you guys ever jump out of a plane? No. There was a lot of, I mean, there's- We've talked, remember?
I think we've talked about this. There was skydiving. I'm not trying to risk my life. There was jumping off the side of that fucking building. And every time Jen's like, I'm afraid of heights. I'm like, these producers really were pushing her to the limits. Hey, we're taking you skydiving and then after you conquer that, we're pushing you off the ledge of a building. They really, yeah, they did her dirty two weeks in a row. Yeah. Yeah, what did she think was going to happen when they went and ate at the top of that tower?
I don't know. They're going to jump off that. I don't know. I would not. I wouldn't do either of those. But he is. He was not very encouraging. Yeah. The Sam M family is there's they're they're pushing the oh my God there's a lot of a lot of Franken bites a lot of things he's not saying that there's that it looks like he's saying that's him telling his family. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Yeah. I.
There's probably some editing going on, but you can also tell what his attitude is on the show. Right. There's definitely a mixture of both. That's what cracks me up is when people claim editing over everything. And yes, editing does play a factor, but at the end of the day, sometimes editing
That's just how somebody is. They got to have some clay to work with. Right. They're not just like completely making up who this guy is. They're not voicing over like... His entire being. An actor comes in and does his voice. He is who he is along with some editing. Yeah. And he just ran into somebody in Devon who he hates. Yeah. Absolutely hates him. Right. And it's not even like necessarily when guys like this fight like that. I'm like, they just have polar opposite personalities.
personalities that's right and they're gonna clash can you imagine like fighting with a guy like like these guys no right absolutely not I'm like but she is right Fran is right where it's like I'm never put in a scenario really where I'm with people that I wouldn't gel with right like they're forced into this situation I'm sure maybe if I got one on a show like this and I ran into somebody like Sam M who would definitely hate me and he would just be like he would just start yelling at me and I'd be like holy shit right and then what you'd probably be like all right man
Yeah, I'm not as loud as Devin, so I probably wouldn't get into it with him like that. His sister posted on her story, at Bachelorette ABC, you can silence your contestants, but you can't silence me. Hashtag free speech. Hashtag let's tell the truth. Damn. Damn. Incredible. Hashtag my truth. The family's getting all bent out of shape about what happened in a teaser. Also, allegedly, Sam has a...
And a fiance, ex-fiance, not fiance, an ex-fiance. I think he did say he got engaged, didn't he? Yeah. So this is something Reality Steve had wrote that his ex-fiance specifically told him that his family was going to do the exact thing that they're doing right now. Almost word for word, which is why she hasn't spoken out. She said there's like media outlets that have reached out to her to talk to her, but she doesn't want to deal with the family.
And then reality Steve wrote, I think that says a lot coming from someone who was engaged to him that she absolutely saw this coming from them. I think we got a pretty good picture on what's going on. Yeah. Hashtag free speech. Hashtag the Constitution. Yeah, right. Exactly. So that was pretty wild. How about, so yeah, that's kind of it for the episode. Where we're at right now, just kind of catching up. Where are they going next? I don't know if I saw, are they still in New Zealand? I don't know.
Fiji. They're just popping right over. Yeah, hey, they could. I don't know where they're going. They could. How many guys are we at? Four? Twelve? Because there's no rose ceremony, right? Because Matthew came in. We might be adding one. We might be adding one. Yeah. I feel like there's no way. Wait, do you think he stays? Yeah. No. Yep. You think he stays? Wait. I think he stays also. Because they said...
That it's something that's never happened before. Do you think he stays and then she just ends up with her ex-boyfriend? That'd be wild. Her reaction, in my eyes, she wasn't mad that he was there. Like, normally they're mortified. And they're like, no, it didn't work. We were toxic. I don't want this. She made it clear that this wasn't the toxic boyfriend. And she was like, what are you doing here? It was kind of that. I feel like Jen...
definitely likes the attention that that like oh my god you're here for me oh my god I completely agree oh my god you flew all the way here for me like okay maybe you can stay which honestly planted or not it's a long flight yeah totally long flight you know what it just doesn't get talked about enough that Hannah Brown showed up to pilot Pete's season
genuinely wanting to be on the show. Like, remember when she showed up and we were like, oh, maybe it'll just be like a little thing, Hannah Brown's here to do a date and it was like actually for her to join the cast of the show. Didn't she end up crying? Yeah. Is that what happened? They like made out and then she was crying. That's right. Yeah, they did make out for a while. And then she didn't stay. And then she didn't stay. It was like she genuinely...
was there to join the cast like that doesn't get talked about enough like we remember we're like there's no way right because they will do that now sometimes and be like wow so and so is here and they will they'll host a date but hannah brown was like hello yeah may i join
Pilot Pete, for everything that he's... People say a lot of things about Pilot Pete, but he brought the drama. He did. He was a wild boy. The most drama. Yeah. That's fucking insane. Oh, Pilot Pete. No, the one thing I wanted to say was outside of this season, just in Bachelor World news...
How about Victoria Fuller dating Will Levis? Yep. You see that? What? Yeah, Victoria Fuller's dating Will Levis. Yeah. No way. Oh, yeah. You missed that? Breaking news. I completely missed that. Yeah, breaking news. Whoa. Wasn't she dating What's-His-Face? Yeah, they broke up. Greg. They've been broken up for a while. They've been broken up for a while. Has she even posted that? I must not follow her anymore or something. No, she just posted. No, she just came out two days ago. Oh. Yeah. Wow.
Wow. She just posted on her story. It was a picture of them. It's his back. She's hugging him. And she posted on her story. Incredible. Another goat in terms of drama on the show. Victoria Fuller is dating Tennessee Titans quarterback. Yeah, if you guys don't know, he is the Tennessee Titans quarterback. An insider told Page Six it's very new, but she's having a lot of fun getting to know him.
Nice. Amazing. Nice. Yeah, the Chase Rice concert. The Chase Rice concert. One of the all-time moments in Bachelor history. Oh, my God. Where are we going? And it was Pete, right? Yeah, and he's like... Pete's like, she knows all the words. And he's like, oh, this is great. He's like dancing around, singing. Oh, my God.
She's a really big fan. I seriously think that was the best season of the show ever. Pilot Pete? Yeah. It's like Pilot Pete and Hannah Brown are one and two. Pilot Pete, Hannah Brown, JoJo season was great. That was like Jordan Rodgers. That was Chad Johnson. That was a whole mix of guys. Wells was JoJo season? Yes, he was. It's just like in terms of drama. Oh, yeah. Not in terms of love and connection. Yeah. In terms of the most dramatic season of the show.
Speaking of Wells Adams, Frankie Brelli's playing golf with him today.
Oh, wow. Really? They played together at Pinehurst Media Day, US Open Media Day a couple months ago. They got grouped together, had a blast. They just hit it off? Hit it off. And Wells is in, he's staying in New York City because I think Sarah's doing something on Broadway, Sarah Hyland. Oh, cool. And then, yeah, he's like- They're going to Borelli's. They're probably doing a little thing. They're probably going to Borelli's and they're playing golf on Long Island. What a nice little treat. That's so nice. Beautiful. He just did the new season of The Traitors. I was, but I've got-
I got to fly out today. What's that? So he just did the new season of the Traders. He was. Oh, really? In what role? A contestant on the Traders. Peacock. I watched a couple episodes of that first season. And then the second season. Second season. Go try it again. But just second season. We always. I got to probably expand. The third season now is going to be Gabby Windy and Wells are both doing it.
Yeah, here's the thing. We always tell you to expand your horizons with the reality TV shows. If you love The Bachelor and Bachelorette, you will love these other shows we're trying to watch. Well, that's the thing. I think I'll get really addicted to all of it. Well, The Traitors is easy. It's just, you know, there's not... Like, what is it, 10 episodes? There's only ever been two seasons. I mean, The Traitors U.S. Traitors U.K. is different, but Traitors U.S., there's only been... Traitors U.S. second season. There's only been two seasons, and I really think you only need to watch the second. Okay. And it's like...
how many episodes is it 12 like it's not yeah I just said 10 yeah 12 10 12 it's not it's not crazy okay yeah all right I'll watch it okay yeah give it a shot great and then maybe you can talk more reality TV with us I know yeah because yeah The Bachelor and The Bachelorette is kind of you know it would be fun yeah it would be a lot of fun okay but thank you so much for joining us thank you for having me so happy to be here with you and hope to have more of these discussions in the future if you're around I would love that oh my god thank you so much thank you guys
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