Justin Baldoni’s 2am Voice Note to Blake Lively + The Bachelor Premiere
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What's up everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. Happy

Happy Whimsical Wednesday, everybody. Happy Watch What Happens Live Wednesday because by the time this comes out, your girls would have just bartended again on Watch What Happens Live randomly. Yep. Not planned. Not planned. Couldn't, didn't really, just came out of nowhere. Got the call up. We got, yeah, we got the call up. We got called up from the bench. Yeah. Come on down, ladies. Yeah, they took us, brought us down. So we're recording. This is a...

recording Tuesday afternoon we hopefully it appears we'll be spending our entire evening over at Watch What Happens Live the initial plan was Austin is on this week and Austin is also going to be on our show this week and he asked if we wanted to go to Watch What Happens Live we're like oh fun yeah like you know it's it was like a Tuesday afternoon like

Love to go. Yeah, we've never sat in the audience before. We're like, fuck it. We'll sit in the audience. Exactly. Sounds fun. And I don't know. So it must have had a last minute dropout because they got a time for the second show. And they said, you girls want to bartend the second show? They need some bartenders. But now we're listening to this post tense, but-

I'm freaking out. Right, right, right. Because it's 3.30 right now we're recording. We're supposed to be there at around 5.30. Yep. I'm wearing a black t-shirt and jeans. Yeah, we thought we were just hanging out backstage. We thought we were just hanging out backstage. I brought a leather jacket, you know, kind of calm, cool, collected. Yep. I'm in no bartending outfit. Right. My makeup is not TV ready. Right, we didn't think we needed to be TV ready today. We didn't think

We didn't think we were going to be TV television ready. My God, doesn't it go to show? We should be TV ready every day, honey. We should. And you know what we could thank God for? That we didn't show up in sweatpants and a fucking hat. Thank God. Like, you know, a lot of days we do. I did. Yeah. No, I was like, oh, at least I'll put on like a semi cute outfit to, to.

Going to the show. You're dressed like a teacher I would have thought was really cool. I felt that way as I got dressed, to be honest. You're dressed like a teacher. I would have been like, oh, I want to be here when I grow up. Yep. You know? I thought like, ooh, this is like a cute...

cute like librarian outfit. For sure. You know? You're like the sexy librarian. Yeah, 100%. Like the middle school librarian that like all the little boys are like, oh. Have a crush on. Yes. Yes. Yeah, so you have that going for you. Yeah. Yeah, total teacher vibe for me today. I mean like, you know,

you know, this isn't Watch What Happens Live bartender outfit ready. No, no, no. And I also don't want to try too hard. So I'm just... Well, it's just like so funny. We have to find something in between because the first time we did it, we went like all out. Right. We got our makeup done. Yeah, we did full and the outfits and everything. We were so ready to go. So it just... It's like...

It actually is funnier if the second time we were just like in our pajamas. Like complete opposite. We're like, ah, been here. Right. And we dressed up like we were the guests sitting in a chair the first time. Yeah. That's our first time. Yeah, of course. This time we should just show up in Chicks in the Office merch if we had any here to put on. I know. You know what I mean? Like we don't even have Chicks in the Office sweatshirts to throw on. In my mind I was like, should I just like fucking throw on an Eagles sweatshirt and go? Yes. Go.

Yes, you should. Go Eagles, make it about football. Fuck it, I'll throw on an Eagles jersey. I'm running in a Saquon jersey as fast as you could fucking blink your eyes. Imagine I just hijack Watch What Happens Live to look like directly in the mic and be like, does somebody have Super Bowl tickets? Somebody please get me a Super Bowl ticket. You know what we should do?

I hope they give us a little slot to say something. That's exactly what I'm going with. Mark my words. Maybe I do run home and just grab a fucking Eagle sweatshirt. Well, then I'll just do it too. I guess. Eagles gear. Fuck it. Why not? Well, anyways, now my, now my thoughts are unfortunately on, I don't have an outfit. My armpits are smelly. I didn't put deodorant on this morning. We're going to watch what happens live.

You know what I mean? Thank God I shaved my body. Not that anybody would be sick and watch what happens live. But I had one of those nice everything showers. Yeah, yeah. I always get it all done, but I forgot to put deodorant on. So there we go. I'm going to be stinking up the joint. Andy Cohen's going to pull my ass out of there and say, let's get smelly McGee out of here because she's stinking up the joint with no deodorant. Who asked her to bartend? Sorry, I'm all hyped up and excited we got asked. I'm excited we got asked. No, I know. It was like, damn, we got a whole evening in the studio. You know what's really funny? Us...

Even debating for a second if we were going to do it. We got the text. We looked at each other. We said, we're going to be there. And then we were like, what are we doing? Why wouldn't we fucking do it? What's wrong with us? I know. And then we were like,

oh, do we go to the first taping then? Because literally the only reason we've been asked to replace them is because they saw that we were going to the first taping. If we just said, Austin, thanks so much for putting our names on the guest list as how they thought, ooh, maybe Rhea and Fran can bartend the second show. And we're like, ah, we're not coming. If we didn't go to see Austin invited us, we were like, eh. Thanks for the invite, bro. We're like, actually, we're going to show up for the later show. Should we ask Austin to stay for our show then? Yeah.

Hey Austin, you want to be our guest? Yes, do a little switch. Yeah, we can do a little switcherooney, a little guest spot. Oh, that's funny. Well, yeah, I mean, pumped up, ready to go, and that'll be exciting. Hopefully nothing crazy happens on air. Everyone will be listening to this after the fact. I know, right? Or like it's just so boring and they're like, damn, they were really going to hype that up more than it was. Or they didn't show us. Yeah.

They just, they acted like they didn't have bartenders that night. Oh gosh. Shite. Well, anyways, how you doing? Fun. Good. Great. Lovely. You know, headed into the week. Nice. Solid. Nothing crazy going on. Just kind of solidified my New Orleans plans. I will be in New Orleans all week.

flights have been moved, accommodations have been accommodated. Nice. There you go. Hopefully my family comes. We're like borderline, we're kind of like, fuck it, even if we don't get tickets to the game, well, I'm going to get tickets to the game. Even if we all as a family don't get tickets to the game, they're like, oh, maybe they'll all go to New Orleans anyway, do a whole weekend, fun trip. I was like, I...

I'm just trying to be positive about it. Like, I keep saying I'm gonna go to the game. I'm gonna figure it out. So, that's the energy I'm putting out there right now. That hopefully, I mean, I moved my flight to Monday. So, regardless, I'll be watching in New Orleans. Well, so I guess that means we can warn everybody that episodes will be over Zoom next week. Not Monday. Just Wednesday and Friday. Wednesday, Thursday, and

Reminds me of Wednesday, Friday, probably Monday. Yeah, but we'll make sure the audio is working good. I'll make sure my mic doesn't make me sound like I have a lisp. I'm going to be like, they have the whole setup down there. Good, solid. So that'll be good. It's not just going to be like me talking into my computer in the hotel room. Well, that'll be me on a microphone in Florida. Yeah, but...

At least it's not both of us. No, right. Right. Because that's what it's really about. We could set you up with a mic. Yeah, we're going to get some good solid audio going so that people don't get upset with us. But yeah, I'm going to go head to... Profesh setup. I'm going to help my sister who is... She wants to take Luca on the plane for the first time. And my parents are down in Florida right now. And she said, hey, sis, you want to come to Florida and help me on the plane with Luca? Yep. I said...

I wouldn't want to do anything else. I'm there. Although, you know, am I worried about my sister and I taking a baby on the plane for the first time? Yes, it is. It is Luca's mother. Yeah. She knows what she's doing. Yep.

I'm there for assistance. Yeah, but also, I mean, it is her first, like, she's never done it before. No, no, no. Neither of us have brought a baby on a plane before. Yeah. So, that'll be some. Baby on a plane. Yeah, that'll be some experience. Yeah. And, yeah, so, I'm gonna. He'll be a little perfect angel. No, he's so cute. He's got his first haircut. I'm so excited to get some sunshine, though. Like, damn, these cold winter months. Yeah, I know. I know. It takes a toll. It really, it's just like. This little depression is real, folks. It's more just like when I look in the mirror. Yeah. I'm horrified.

Not when I have makeup on or anything. Like when I do, you know, when I do my hair, my makeup, I'm like, cool. But it's like waking up in the morning and you look in the mirror and you're like, woof. Yeah. When you, it's like, ah, you know, you're blinded by like the paleness of winter. When you look at yourself in the mirror in these cold winter months. For sure. You know, and the dry skin comes off in the winter. It's like shit. Yeah.

All right. Preaching to the choir sister. I know. I'm just rambling at this point. But I know everyone can relate to that if you're not in a sunny sunshine state right now in the cold winter months. Totally. It can get fucking brutal. I'm hoping it's nice down in New Orleans, but it's... I checked the weather. It looked like it was going to be like 70 degrees. Oh, fantastic. I mean, it snowed there like last week. Yeah. I did look at what the weather was going to be like. Oh, thank you for doing that. I haven't looked.

I've been looking up everything for you. Yeah, you're like, what about these tickets? I'm like, what about these tickets, honey? Like, I was sending Fran tickets yesterday. I was like, these look good. I don't know. You're just as nervous as I am. I am. Like, I'm just excited. I'm excited. I'm invested. Listen, I got no dog in the fight when it comes to the Super Bowl. So Super Bowl week for me is kind of like...

Thank you. Vacation's all I ever wanted. Vacation, having some fun. You know? I love it. I don't know if that's the words, but I think it's, it is. It's like when the whole company is like so into the Superbowl and you know, you got your team. It's like, well, I can root from the sidelines, you know? Yep. So,

Yeah. Appreciate the support. Always. And I'll keep sending you ticket updates. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. All right. Let's get into the rest of the show. Noah, how are you doing today? I'm good. Good. Good. Moving on.

I had nothing to add, so. Anyways, rest of the show. Like, I really thought you just, like, kind of threw him a bone there. Just be like, hey, just, let's just check in with you. You know what? Good. All right, moving on. I really was asking. What if I was like, I'm actually really not doing well. We would have opened the conversation. We would have stopped. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. No, no. But I just kind of assumed you were going to be like, good. No, I had nothing else. I started that new James Morrison show last night. I was telling them, good, I recommend it. All right, moving on. Good.

What show is it? It's called Paradise. It's like where he's playing the president. Oh, yes. And the guy from... It's Sterling K. Brown. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sterling K. Knight? Sterling K. Knight, which is what I said. It's good. I would recommend it. I wasn't even on the show. I know the inside jokes when I'm in here. I had Sterling Knight with a Sterling K. Knight. Speaking of Sterling Knight...

I actually didn't put this on my weekly watch report. Sorry to cut you off, Noah. What do you think of the show so far? No, I don't really want to give stuff away because I went in kind of not knowing what it's about and then it's like... It's like a network show, right? Like it's on Hulu? It's on Hulu, but it doesn't feel like network. Yeah, but I think it's like on... FX or what is it? Oh, maybe. Is it? I don't know if it was that or like ABC or something. It can't be on ABC. I would be shocked if it was. Who knows? Because the episodes are pretty, like, they're longer than 30 minutes. Well, they have hour-long shows. Oh.

To me, cable TV isn't even a real thing anymore. Paradise is... I mean, we're literally going on a cable television show. No, no. But you know what I mean. Not like talk shows. Released... Oh, maybe it's a Hulu exclusive. I think it is a Hulu exclusive. Yeah, it just says Hulu. The first three episodes came out today, so... The poster for the show says Hulu, so... But I love me some James Morrison. His character in this is amazing. Don't we both? Yeah.

You and Francesca both. He's the president, but he's like a badass president. He's smoking and drinking. He doesn't give a fuck. He could never play a lame president. Look at him. He's a JFK type. Oh, shit. You're going to open up your phone to another James Marsden DM. We didn't even talk about that on the podcast. I feel like we didn't. Now I'm saying too much. Probably didn't. All right. Well, moving on. That was a couple of years ago. Yeah.

Anyways, I was watching the Disney Channel games. They put them on the Disney network. They put them on the Disney app on the TV. And I was... Disney Plus? Disney Plus. I couldn't think of... I don't know where you just went with that. The Disney app on the TV? I could not think. Okay, so Disney Plus. I couldn't think of the name. Disney Plus. Disney Plus.

I watched She Brought the Dozen 2 this weekend. Yeah. And I was scrolling around after and I saw they put the Disney Channel games on there. And I was like, oh my God, I have to watch. I have to watch the first episode. Jason Dolly. You remember him? Yep. Where is he now? Yep. Yep. Yep. You know? Yep. One of those, like, where is he now? Which show was he on? He was... I can picture his face. And he had some of those... Was he in movies? He was in movies. Yeah. And there was also...

I feel like he was in a lot of Disney Channel movies. Jason Dolly, he was in a lot of movies. He's 33 now, his birthday's July 5th. Oh, Minutemen, great. Oh, he was in Good Luck Charlie. Good Luck Charlie. Yes, Minutemen, Good Luck Charlie, Hatching Pete. Yep. Cory in the House. Oh, duh. Read it and Weep. Where's Jason Dolly? Wow, guess what Minutemen has on Rotten Tomatoes? I mean, that was like one of my favorite Disney movies. From the way you just said that, I can't tell if it's going to be shockingly high or shockingly low.

77. 12. 67. That's a good for a new star. That's really good. Dang. All right. Well, good for them. Nicholas Verron. Did you see the promo this morning that they dropped? George Brothers for the Disney movie? For the Disney Plus Christmas movie? Yeah. I'm sure it's going to be cute. It's just like, por que? Where's the book? But...

No, I think it's, it'll, a George Brothers Christmas movie sounds like my dream. Like, cozy up, get the, maybe I'm home, get the fireplace going, light a nice candle. You have a fireplace? No, I said maybe if I'm home. Oh. In like, not my apartment. Right. In a house that has a fireplace. I was like, shit, you got a fireplace? No, no, no. I was just there on Friday. No, I'm like, no.

No, I mean like my in-laws house. Right, right, right. And getting all cozy in the Christmas season and throwing on a little Jonas Brothers Christmas movie. Yum. Delightful. That does sound delightful. But they did the whole, if you didn't see it, they did the whole of actually poster board, you know, we're the Jonas Brothers, we have a Christmas movie coming out on Disney Plus. And, you know, they're really working overtime when they're promoing the Christmas movie that, you know, it's,

end of January it'll be out in a year basically. It's like coming this holiday season. They kind of missed the mark on that. That's about 10 months away. Right. Missed the mark. It was literally just Christmas. Yeah. Joe Rose. But I will say this is I mean you have this is the time you have to film a Christmas movie like you can't film a Christmas movie at Christmas because then it's not you know there's no time for it to come out. No but why didn't they just start promoing it like next September.

Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? This coming holiday, the Jonas Miller Christmas movie. I think that they had to say something because it like came out online that they were filming in. There was like behind the scenes paparazzi pictures and stuff and people were kind of confused. Yeah. So this was the right call, I think, to just like publicly

Watch it not even come out. You'll be like, what happened to that Christmas movie? This will be like November. No, it'll come out. It'll come out. I trust Disney Plus. For sure. Disney's a well-oiled machine. That movie will come out. That Disney app on that TV. That Disney app on the TV. My brain just can't stop thinking about the fact that I want to do something crazy on Watch What Happens Live to get noticed.

You know what I mean? Like we got to do something like when they pan to us, like we got to do something like, ah, you know, like just like not to get, but I just mean like something where it's like, like they didn't, we didn't just smile and wave, you know, like, what are we going to do? I don't know. I don't know.

we'll probably just smile and wave. Yeah, I mean, that's going to be the case. And then there'll be a clip of us talking about this and then a shot of us going, Yeah, we're going to be, yeah, exactly, completely. We're here with the chicks in the office. What are we going to do? Like, yeah. Should I do that? No, dare me to do something. Come on. I'm trying to, I'm actually, we're all drawing a blank. What could they do? Should I go like this to the camera? Yeah.

Double, like, back-to-back guns. Oh, we can do back-to-back guns. We can do that. Just a little finger gun. Yeah. Gotcha. We gotta do something different. Yeah, we can think about it. We'll have to have a couple drinks before. Yeah, we'll brainstorm. You know. Right now. Otherwise. Right now, it's not gonna come to us. No, we're just gonna be like. Exactly. Hey! Alright. Moving on. Oh, by the way, Rachel Kirkconnell went on Call Her Daddy. She did. And...

It's not out yet while we're recording this. You have all probably seen what she said already. Right. And we'll talk about it on Friday. Yeah, exactly. And we'll see. We'll see what she said. We'll give our takes. I feel like emotional. She looked like she had been crying in the promo perhaps. You know, probably emotional. Yeah. So we'll give our takes on that. Yep. All right. Topics. Topics. Topics. Topic train. It's coming right to you. Verity's topic train. Yep.

Shout out Greg T. Thank you. From Z100. Thank you. Elvis Duran in the morning zoo. Morning zoo or morning show? Morning zoo. Isn't that what they called it? Fire up the old Google machine. Elvis Duran in the morning zoo. There's no way I just made up zoo in my mind. Is it not the morning show? This is all saying morning show. What's zoo from? Is there something else? Am I just thinking of zootopia? There has to be some. Maybe in Jersey you guys had a morning zoo show.

But Elvis Duran and the Morning Show. That doesn't even like sound good. Morning Zoo. No, it doesn't. It threw me off guard. Yeah, but you know what? Maybe I'm just thinking of Z100 Zootopia. That was a good time. I don't think they do Zootopia anymore. Z100 Zootopia concerts. It's like Jingle Ball, but different point.

All right. Anyway, time to get into Greg T's topic train. We're going to be talking about the voice note that was... I just would like to not talk about it. I know. I would really love to stop talking about both Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. I'm actually... But we're in a vortex. No, we are. It's nonstop. The voice note has been released.

We're going to be talking about ASAP Rocky's trial has begun. Rihanna will be attending on Wednesday. We'll get into the details of that. The Bachelor is back with Bachelor Grant. Bachelor is back. We will be talking about that. We got Lady Gaga releasing a new album. Get ready, little monsters. March 7th. Little monsters, assemble. Me being the leader. And voicemails. Yes. Pop corner. Yeah, pop corner. Let's get into it. Starting off the topics.

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Here go again with this topic. So we're just on the train. We're on the ride and I want to get off. I want to get off. I want to get off the ride bad. I want to get off. I'm sick of hearing about these two. I'm not going to lie. Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni, both of them. The trial will begin next year, 2026. I saw the information pop up on Chicks in the Office. I'm so excited.

Rhea looked at me. She sat down. She went, oh, the trial starts March 9th. And I said, yeah, 2026. I was reading it from our Instagram and I see March 9th, 2026. The whole fucking over a year from now. So we're going to wait for that. But of course, that's how the courts work. But yeah, this voice note was released. And here's what the now the conversation can begin with this. Was Blake Lively guilty?

you know, maybe uncomfortable with Justin Baldoni's, the way he talks, whatever. Yes. That does not equal sexual assault. And now that's the conversation that, or sexual harassment or sexual assault. That's like where the conversation comes into play, right? Because it's like his voice note could be weird and uncomfortable, but that does not equal he is guilty of, you know, sexual harassment. So a lot of people are talking about that.

There's just 9 million things to go through is the problem. And it's just going to be, we're just going to be stuck in this spiral for the next year of them, like releasing text messages or recordings or scenes that have been cut or whatever. And for everybody to put their, put their opinion into and everybody's diving into this, that everything, all these other theories and blah, blah, blah. And so it's like a six minute, six and a half minute voice note that he sent Blake Lively at,

Like, it's sent at two in the morning. And it was basically in like... He told her. In an apology. Is this post them having the meeting about the rooftop scene and everything that happened there? And I guess, you know, Blake didn't feel like she was completely heard at that time. And so now he's like really honing in on apologizing and...

I really want to like work with you. I want all of you. Like I don't just, there's just, these two clearly have very different boundaries. And I've said this so many times, but they, these two could not, like they just don't mix in any way. And like everything that I feel like Blake is okay with,

Justin's not and vice versa like Justin's like living his life he's talking the way he talks blah blah blah and I just don't know if Blake really has has had an experience with a guy like Justin and that can make somebody uncomfortable I personally listening to this voice note I was like hmm

This is kind of creeping me out a little bit, which is funny because if you go on the internet, it's, oh my God, his voice is so sexy. Read me a bedtime story, daddy. It's like, what?

I don't know what's happening. Let me tell you, this is what I don't understand. He does have a sexy voice. I will give him that. But it's like, it was what he was saying and the way he was saying it to somebody that like is an actress working on his movie. I don't, it weirded me out. And this is what I don't understand with the internet. Like Blake Lively could be wrong. Yes. Yeah. 100%.

But why does that mean we have to worship the ground Justin Baldoni walks on? Like, I don't, I don't understand. Like people will just like, because they're against somebody else, they will prop the other person up to be like fucking the most amazing person in the entire fucking world. And it's like, well, no,

No, like, yeah, Blake Lively's wrong, but I, Justin Baldoni, I'm not like worshiping and bowing down in front of him. Like, I also listened to that voice and was like, what the fuck is going, like, people are like, oh, he's so emotionally intelligent, mature, like,

Okay, but, like, this voice note is seven minutes long, and I think he's saying too much at this point. Like, it's, like, over... You know, like, overcompensating. And, like, maybe that's just how he talks, and maybe he did feel really bad, and that's why it was, like, on and on. But at the end...

And nobody's talking about this, right? Everyone's like, oh my God, he's so emotionally intelligent. He's so, oh my God, he's saying apology right away. Oh, da, da, da. And then at the end where he's like, you know, you probably got kids all over you. You probably got a baby on your boob. Like, why was that necessary to say? Why was that necessary to throw in at the end of the voice note? Which is why I think it goes back to the point of like,

I think these two are just two totally different people that are not on the same wavelength. Different set of boundaries. And they have a different set of boundaries. And maybe that's just how Justin Baldoni talks. And some people like that and appreciate that. And Blake Lively doesn't. But then that comes into the legal aspect of it where it's like, okay, well, that is not, you know, that doesn't qualify as like sexual harassment or assault. But I don't, was this listed in her complaint? No.

Like, was this voice note specifically listed in her complaint? I don't know. I don't remember seeing this. Because if I did, I feel like I would have remembered the baby on the boob line when I was reading through it. But I don't, I don't, it may have, it may have been. But no, Justin's the kind of guy that's like,

I'm a flawed human, you know? I make mistakes. And I'll work to be better and, like, all these things. And sometimes, like, those kinds of guys are, like, a red flag to me. I don't know. It's working what he's doing. It's hard to even talk about because people, like, are so, so, so just about Dhoni. It's working what he's doing. It's working because everybody, like, every comment, everything I see online is just so pro-

and like, oh my God, he was so forgiving and he's bending over backwards for her and he is doing too much for her and is too kind to her and all this, like she's taking advantage of his kindness and,

and I just I don't know I I do believe that he was trying to be kind and supportive for sure and be helpful yeah and do all those things I think that was his intention yes and that is where where his heart is coming from but I think that he was probably crossing some boundaries that Blake had that could be interpreted as being inappropriate I'm sorry like if somebody I work for

And I, you know, work for. I know everyone's like, oh, the power distribution. Like, she's more famous. She has more power. He was the director of the movie. His studio owned the rights. His studio was producing the movie. She's the actress on the movie. Yes, she fought for the PGA title, all those things, the producer title. But he's the director. He is running the show as of right now before he got, you know, bulldozed, so to say. But, like, if I'm getting...

a message from somebody like that. And that situation, I'm playing it, it's two in the morning, and he's like, you probably have a baby on your boob. I'm like, ugh, what are you visualizing me sitting here with my boob out? Like...

Yeah, I don't know. Fran, I don't know why. I don't know. I feel like we seem crazy that we're not so like, oh my God, Justin Baldoni, the greatest man to walk this earth. I know. I don't know. And I want to be very, very clear. I am not so crazy like, team Blake, she's so right. Go Blake, go Blake. The whole thing. There is...

I see others both sides to it really and it's just like there's certain things that like his team is putting out that I'm just like I don't I mean like I said it seems to be working. There's so many different wrinkles into this now too because the internet has run wild and it's come from the voice of Candace Owens which is like the last person that I thought I would be talking about in this situation. Right.

But Candace Owens is, like, on social media being like, I got the inside source. This person's talking to me. This person's talking to me. She's saying she's talked to people that have been to Blake's, like, within Blake's family or have been to Blake's father's home and, like, all these things. And I'm just, one, I'm like, who from Blake's family is speaking to you? I'm sorry. Like, that, you're just not going to get me on that. Yeah. But...

She is full steam ahead on Ryan Reynolds being the issue here. And something happened and Ryan's decided to like go to,

Like, Ryan's the one that wanted to take over the movie. He wanted all this to happen. He wanted to go at Wayfair Studios. And Wayfair Studios is also run by this guy who's a billionaire. And, like, she keeps mentioning, like, you're going to lose that battle. Like, I know Ryan Reynolds. Like, they say his net worth is $300 million. Like, this guy's billion. Like, this guy wants to give away a billion dollars. He's got so much money. So...

She's really pulling it all to Ryan Reynolds, which is now starting to become a conversation where everyone's really honing in on Ryan Reynolds of like this jealousy factor of like, what did he see during the dailies? Did he go and he watched something and saw that there was chemistry and he got pissed off or uncomfortable or all these things like that? He got angry. They've gone to the past of him.

And like relationships that he's been in where exes have coded him is like kind of being a controlling guy. You know, he also met Blake Lively on the set of a movie. And now that is a whole narrative that's coming out of this as well. People are talking about and Candace has been leading this lead in the fight on that one. So honestly, strategically smart guy.

ish from Candice maybe because now it's like there's like this whole young generation of people that are so team Justin that they're like wow Candice never thought I'd be on your side for this but you got me and she's probably like yes I mean it's it's crazy but the the thing with with Justin is like obviously

totally understand why his team is fighting back so hard because being wrongfully accused of something so serious is extremely damaging to somebody's entire image and career like their entire life it's extremely damaging so I understand why they're fighting back really hard and they're like no this is the proof that those things did not happen I

I think that what I'm gathering is I just think they're weirdo actors. Like, they're artsy. They talk in all these terms. They have, you know, this self-importance of, you know, filmmaking. I don't think Blake and Riley have... Blake and Ryan. Blake and Ryan have come across...

a guy that they've had to deal with in their day-to-day life that is like justin yeah and it's just like but you do like you do have to understand the part of being accused of something so damaging like you're gonna be pissed you're gonna want to fight back and that does suck for justin because it's like okay well there is a difference between like not understanding his artistic vision and view versus what he's like being accused of yeah so that does suck

Just from an opinion of watching this all unfold...

I think they're all weirdos. Like I think just like I think just actors are fucking weird. I think there's totally some crazy like power dynamic going on with this too of like Blake and Blake and Ryan want to put Justin in his place kind of thing. It's like they're like just ego wise like let's you know. Right. But even putting someone in their place and accusing them of something as serious as like completely. I mean that's what I'm saying. It doesn't it doesn't add up. Yeah. It's no good.

So, I don't know. But they... It's going to continue. I mean, like we said, the court date isn't until the first date, March 9th, 2026, which is crazy. And I'm sure they both have more to reveal about each other. Like, every day something else is going to come out. From Blake's team about Justin, Justin about Blake, it's going to be back and forth. This movie was not worth it. Yeah. You know? This movie was not...

Worth all this. They've sent Colleen Hoover straight off the internet. She's like deactivated her social. I mean, I don't blame her. Yeah. I would be like, if I'm Colleen Hoover, I'm canceling Verity. Right. I'm like, listen. Yeah. All my book to film adaptations, cut them. Yeah. Yeah. I can't go through this again. Because this is wild. No, it's really crazy. It's really wild. But-

But it's actually so crazy. Yeah, it's just, you know, it is crazy. It's just, yeah, even just like we said, all the language that has been used and the examples and the text messages and the things that Blake sent him, bizarre. The things that he's saying back, bizarre. It's just, that's why like Ryan being more involved potentially does not shock me and can be very believable to me too, right?

Because I'm thinking, like, Blake plays this voice note out loud, and if Ryan's there listening to it, I'd imagine Ryan would be like, what the hell is this guy? Like, what is happening? You know? Like, why is this guy sending you a voice note, like, talking about how amazing your chemistry is? And yes, they are actors that are working together for sure. Like, it makes, it's just, I just think that I could see Ryan, I just think I could see anybody, and even just Ryan, but like,

Naturally, there's a little bit of a jealousy that comes there or like a little bit of like a what's going on, you know? Yeah, well, they're both actors, though. So if you're going to have the jealousy bug, you can't be doing that when you're both acting with different people. 100%. You know what I mean? There's no way that that doesn't still happen sometimes. Right. But it's like then you're in the wrong field, I guess. You know? Yeah, I suppose. I suppose.

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ASAP Relly. They had disagreements. Relly claims that he was meeting up with ASAP Rocky to squash the arguments and ASAP Rocky ended up firing on him. ASAP Rocky claims that Relly was going after one of his guys and that's why he pulled out the gun. But he also claims the gun was a prop gun and that this was not a real gun. It was a prop gun.

So, yeah, I can read this too. This was a description in the cut that says, Rocky's been charged with two counts of felony assault with a semi-automatic firearm. ASAP Relly, former friend and collaborator, accused Rocky firing gun at him near a Hollywood hotel in 2021. The two went to high school together in New York City and Relly claims that he brought Rocky into the ASAP group. Over the years, they remained close, but Rocky's career skyrocketed while Relly and other members of ASAP felt that they were left behind.

In October of 2021, a member of the group named Asap Josh died and Rocky said he would help Josh's mother with funeral costs. Relly fell under the impression that Rocky hadn't followed through and sent him a text message that read, you're so fucking fake it's sad. Relly testified that he later learned that Rocky had actually paid for the funeral. That November, Relly agreed to meet with Rocky at the W Hotel in Hollywood. Rocky was allegedly joined by Asap Ills and Asap 12y.

Relly claimed that once they met up, Rocky pulled out a gun and pressed it to his chest. Rocky then began to walk away and Relly began offloading his feelings towards the rapper. He said in court that he was letting him know how everybody feel because nobody's brave enough to say how they feel about this man. At that point, according to Relly, Rocky turned around and shot me.

In court, Relly's lawyer showed a picture of Relly's injured knuckles, which he claimed came from the shooting. While part of this interaction was caught in security cameras, there is no footage of Rocky actually firing a gun. Prosecutors are banking on Relly as their star witness, while Rocky's lawyer is hoping to cast him as a liar trying to get money. Relly has also sued Rocky for damages related to the shooting in civil court. So in that case, if he's filing it in civil court, he wants justice.

you know, damages to be paid back to him, which is normally, you know, a sum of money. ASAP Rocky has not spoken publicly about the charges. Rocky made a big statement when he opted not to take a plea deal that would have sent him to prison for six months. If he is found guilty at trial, Rocky could face up to 24 years in prison. Um,

Now, it is big that Rihanna is going to be there because a part of the trial, allegedly, when they were picking the jury was, like, have you listened to ASAP or Rihanna? Like, are you a fan? Like, do you like Fenty Beauty? Like, it's like these things because, you know, you could be swayed if they're a fan of the room. Prosecutors also wanted to know if jurors would be able to render a fair verdict if Rihanna was in the room. Um...

It originally seemed like she was not going to be there, that he didn't... That Rocky's very protective of her and didn't want her to be there. But now this TMZ story says that Rihanna is throwing her full support behind him and is planning to show up on Wednesday. This says Rihanna will cause quite the stir when she makes her grand entrance at the downtown LA courthouse with a circus-like media atmosphere surrounding the high drama.

A source with direct knowledge of the case tells us the plans could change, but right now she is slated to be there on Wednesday. She will likely be sitting in the gallery with all the regular folks, which should be an interesting visual in and of itself. And they mentioned again that it was a key part of picking the jury, of asking them, you know, have you ever purchased a Fenty product? Do you like Rihanna? Do you like A$AP? All these things. So you'd have to imagine no matter what there is, even if somebody says like,

There's no swaying factor at all. And sure, I'm sure some of them really probably have no clue. They don't know who Rihanna is or whatever. There's people out there that probably live under a rock. And that's the people that they have to find for a case like this to be jurors. But regardless, it's...

To have her there is a strong statement. I would be a horrible jury member for this case. I would say... No, you would actually have been dismissed immediately. I would be. Your Honor, he's too pretty to be in jail. Mm-hmm. You know? Mm-hmm. So, thankfully, I wasn't called for this. Right. But...

damn i don't want to see it you said probably go to jail no like i know that he did something wrong like these like i'm i'm i'm totally being biased right now i know he did something wrong gun thing come from because it sounds like he hasn't even really said anything about the trial he said that is a prop gun where did he say that i that's what i read that's what i read about i forget which article i read it on but i did read that he said it was a prop gun

That's so interesting because this says he's really not said anything about it at all. I think this was when everything first happened. Yeah, yeah. He claimed it was a prop gun. Oh, that must be what they're now saying in trial. Yeah, and it was raided in April 2022. It was loaded with six bullets and it was found. You know, so I don't know if he's going to get away with saying it's a prop gun. Yeah, that's, you know.

He said the gun was actually... His lawyer said the gun was actually a starter pistol that only shot blanks, which Rocky carried for protection. Yeah, that's why he's saying it's a prop gun. Yeah, yeah. And basically they're saying it's just, you know, extortion by rally. It's a whole thing. It's a back and forth. I am...

not an unbiased member of the jury here. I don't want to see a Zep Rocky go to jail when they have, you know, little babies. I know the jurors were shown surveillance videos. Um, the prosecutor argued, made it clear that Rocky fired a gun at that point. Um,

Rocky's attorney said in the defense opening statement, the video evidence is meaningless without the testimony of the accuser who he argued is driven by jealousy, lies and greed. The case falls or rises or falls in his credibility. He said the gun was actually the first video shown by the prosecution showed a physical struggle between two men with two others intervening when one of them wearing a black hoodie pulls out a gun and points it, but does not fire.

The evidence in this case will show that the man in the black sweatshirt is the defendant. That's what the district, deputy district attorney is saying. That evidence will be uncontradicted. So now, of course, that is what they will try and prove over the next coming days and in this trial and probably weeks of, we'll see how long it goes. But the defense lawyer argued that A$AP Riley was not scared because he, quote, knew that gun wasn't real.

bloody scrapes on his knuckles is what we'll see as well. Yeah. So we shall see. It's just the beginning. That's going to continue to play out. Damn. That's tough. Yeah. Yep. That's tough. Tough for Rihanna. Yeah. Totally. She's standing by her man. Okay. You do you. The Bachelor's back. Back on Monday. I saw some of it. I didn't watch the full episode. Standard it seemed. Yes. The ladies are gorgeous. Honestly. Honestly.

stunning group of women. One of the more stunning groups. I saw someone say, did they just show up to a modeling agency and say, give us all your women? Like, and Grant's a handsome guy for sure. He is very handsome. Um,

These girls are stunning. And so far, I mean, night one, everybody seems pretty normal. But, I mean, it's night one. There wasn't really no crazy antics. Grant showed up. He met him a little bit, talked about his family, met his sister, his mom. He also had to sit down with his dad, who his parents were married for 30 years, and then they divorced when he was 18.

in high school or college maybe he said I think maybe high school and his father has

Addiction problems For a long time And it seems like they have really tried to Work on their relationship And they sat down His dad was so excited for him to do this whole process And meet somebody And they went to the mansion, got ready These ladies came out of the limo One more stunning than the last Truly One girl, Alex, came in With a llama, no drama llama It was a real llama

It stayed in the house all night. Everybody got to see the llama. And she ended up getting the first impression rose.

She was really cute, the girl. She was funny, quirky. Because at first I thought, oh no, you're bringing a llama in. This is not going to be good for you. But it ended up being good because they had a lovely conversation. She made him laugh, which I think he really liked. And she's super cute. And it was a big, because the first impression rose this season also meant that she was getting the first one-on-one date, which is something that they have not...

Done before Nobody really went to Out of pocket On their On their limo entrances I will say Like you know Couple wrists here or there

Couple people tried to do like a little dance. There's some of course there's like some pods girl from Jersey brought a pizza like there's just a sick Italian girl brought a cannoli, you know And I'm trying to think if there was anything else that I saw that was like whoa It really somebody brought a big fat head of just his head, which was funny, you know She was like, oh, you know, I'll always make sure you don't get a big head and

And the girls all seem to get up. I mean, he might with the drop of his new song. I know. He apparently is also a musical artist. Honestly, it was pretty good. Yeah, it's clearly something else he wants to do. In the preview for the whole season, he is singing at certain points. Pursue your dreams, Grant. Yeah, the talent is there from Grant. He did kiss a decent amount of the ladies, I will say. Some good connections already.

But like no drama with the girls. Like nobody was like crying. Oh my God, I haven't gotten time yet with him. The only drama that they tried to do was they brought Grand Sister to the mansion and they obviously didn't know it was his sister. So they're like, who's this? Who's this? They're all like freaking out for two seconds. And then she's like, I'm his sister. Classic. They've done it with the brothers before. Yep. Yep. Yep. Exactly. So that's really, that was like the one big thing. And at the end of the night, he...

sent uh sent a few of them home nobody that they really like focused on during the episode I would say got sent home but yeah really not much to say because it seems like a fantastic group of group of ladies so we'll see what happens hopefully it makes for a good season yeah very very standard first night um

I will say, does it look good for the end? I know that they always want you to think that. Yeah, it never looks good for the end. But the preview, man, he's down at the finale and he's like saying, like, I got two girls. I love them. I don't know who to pick. And like, he's like, the clock, it's like the shot clock is like on. And at one point, Jesse Palmer is like,

you need to tell me, like, what girl is showing up first. Like, you need to tell me, like, which girl is going to arrive first. He's like, I don't know. Like, it's like, he, sounds like it was really a down-to-the-wire decision. Yeah, that's not good. There was one, which I always feel, if you do pick someone in that scenario, and then they have to watch that back, that is...

Not good. Because you're like, oh, what did you just fucking flip a coin? Like, you know, you're like, they're both so great. Like, it could be either of them. Okay, well, why'd you pick me? Right. No, if I'm the girl that comes out of the last wire, I'm like, well, doesn't feel like you wholeheartedly. Totally. You want the guy to be like, look, I've known it's been you for weeks. You know? Like, so, I don't know. Well, it should be an interesting...

season I guess to see how that plays out because that's what they're really teasing at the end so we shall see but that was episode one cruising right along Grant season baby we'll see if it picks up what's this song called

Party girls. Party girls. The whole song kind of seems like all girls want is to party, blah, blah, blah. So it's like a weird thing to put out right before you're going on a show to find love. Maybe he's taking past inspiration. Damn, you think he's sending out a subliminal message to everybody? It could maybe not be right now. To be like a hint of how the season goes? A lot of artists write about past experiences, not only their present. That's true, that's true. Speaking of artists, Lady Gaga, new album Mayhem out March 7th.

She said she wants to do something for, you know, those OG little monsters out there that were fans of her pop music from the beginning. She knows, you know, it won't be the same, but you can only, you know, it'll be. Wow, did you see what she described it as? I feel like it's right up your alley. Like what the music is going to sound like? What did she say again? She said, 90s alternative electro grunge Prince and Bowie melodies, guitar and attitude, funky bass lines, French electronic dance, and analog synths. I can't wait.

Amazing. Not quite sure what that all means, but sounds fantastic. I'm in. I heard Prince and Bowie. Yeah, I mean, I love that. So you got this little monster fired up. Right, I was going to say, that sounds like a direct shot for you, really, in sending something for the little monsters. Yeah, she's been hearing me talk about the fame. And it's true, because I feel like Lady Gaga, there's been so much...

um, that she's done and she's so, she's so amazing and successful in different things, but like doing movies and like soundtracks and, you know, Joker too. And then that was like the songs from that came out. And I feel like she hasn't done a full classic Gaga pop album. And we need that in our lives. Yeah. Mayhem. When is it coming out? March 7th.

Okay, soon. Not 2026. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2025. Not 2026. You have to clarify, March 2025. We will be listening to you, Gaga. And that wraps up the topics. Oh, can't wait. Cannot wait. What a description. I'm still thinking about that. That was like 90 different genres in one thing she just said. And we'll eat it up every time. Yep, love it.

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All right, let's get into the pop corner. We'll take your voicemails. What do you guys want to talk about? What are your hot takes? I can't, I just like, how could these headphones be any more tank? Like, what? How does this even happen? Holy shit. I'm like. Oh, that's absurd. And it's, okay. Anyway, first voicemail, please.

Hi, chicks. This is Kelly from Atlanta. Y'all have totally got me obsessed with the show The Traitors. I binge-watched the entire second season and am current on the third season just this weekend. And it had me wondering, if y'all were on there, do you think you would want to be a traitor or a faithful? And how would you play the first few days of the show? Love y'all so much. Have a good one. Bye. Easy. I'd want to be a traitor. For sure. Traitor for sure. Traitor for sure. And I think, like, you want to...

You want to be in the mix, but not like trying too hard those first few days. You don't want to be calling people out right away. But you also don't want to be like a wallflower not getting involved at all. Right. But I think it's kind of like maybe more of a speak when spoken to type scenario. And like, you know, give opinions and be vocal, but don't go full...

Danielle crying every second that you get like it's like then I feel like you when you overact and stuff it like doesn't look right I feel like you gotta like piggyback on people like don't come up with the idea but then just kind of agree with other people yeah you're like oh yeah yeah that's a good idea I agree with that yeah I would want to be a traitor for sure yeah

Hey, Rhea. Hey, Fran. It's Lauren from Philly. I've talked to so many people about this, and I really have to get it off my chest to you guys and hear your opinion. Austin Butler is the most overrated actor in Hollywood. I think he overacts every single role that he's been in. I didn't enjoy him in any of the movies. When I saw him pop on the screen in Dune II, I audibly laughed out loud. And he just keeps getting handed every role. He's going to be an American psycho, and he just...

gets given the role. I just don't think he's a good actor, and I don't know what the hype is about. So either someone needs to convince me or he needs to be downgraded. I think that Drew Starkey could play every role that Austin Butler has played, but better. And that's what I've got. Go, Birds!

Go birds. That was supposed to be your thing. I said it. Yeah. Yeah. That felt like a call directly for Noah because Noah's had that take. I will say this though. I don't think Austin Butler is an overrated actor. I don't.

I feel like maybe I haven't seen him in enough things, like the things you've mentioned. I didn't see Dune. I didn't see the Bikers movie that you saw. He's barely into it. When it comes to Drew Starkey, though, it's like people hype up Drew Starkey without actually having seen him in many things besides Outer Banks. So people are like, that one I don't necessarily agree with. Drew Starkey could play a role. And I don't know if anybody's seen that. Well, have we seen Drew Starkey? That movie with him in...

Daniel Craig is supposed to be great. But I'm like, I doubt, has everyone seen that yet? I think it ended up not getting as great reviews as the hype was. So I'm just like, I think you maybe just have a crush on Drew Starkey, which is fair. What was the other one? My girlfriend Zoe or whatever that one was. It's like, yeah, I mean, what are we talking about? I'm like...

People fucking love Drew Starkey. So if you got a crush on Drew Starkey, love it. Yeah, but Drew Starkey doesn't have the resume to say, like, with 100% confidence he's better than Austin Ballard. Right. Like, you lost me on that part. Yeah. And there are some things, sure, like maybe he does overact, but I really don't have any. Like, I really enjoyed him in Masters of the Air. I liked him. I liked him as Elvis. I thought he was a good Elvis. Yeah.

He was a great Elvis. I really didn't. Yeah. He is Elvis. I did see. It never took me out. Nothing that I've watched him in, I've been taking out of and watching like, oh God, all I see is Austin Butler. I did see a lot of people saying this and there were a couple of voicemails too about like Austin must have been pissed when he saw Timothee Chalamet do the musical guest role.

And the double thing on a snow being like, why didn't I get to do this? That is so true. Holy shit. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's an awful take. I think many people would agree with you. It's just not one. It's just not a take I align with. Totally. And I also don't think he was just handed American Psycho, you know, because that's been a role that's been talked about for a while. And a lot of different actors' names have been thrown around for that. So...

I don't think it was just like his role from the beginning. Yeah, so yeah. Hey guys, this is Kayla from Maryland and my hot take is as okay to copy people's interim captions So I was wondering how you guys felt about that And this is also my confession to Fran that I stole your wedding one for my own wedding clothes. So yeah Okay, thank you. Love you guys. Bye. I mean look like if if somebody takes yours and

I guess it's flattering. You came up with a good caption, but I would never copy somebody else's. No, but it's also like a lot of times who's got, who would know? Right? No, it like, it's hard. Like if I had the same caption that Kendall Jenner had like three years ago, who's going to be like, Oh my God, this is Kendall. Like you copy Kendall Jenner. I've probably seen people's captions before and go, Oh, that's good. I'll make up a variation of that. Totally. Yeah. I'll make up a variation of that caption, but I won't copy a word for word. I'm,

awful at Instagram captions. So, you know what? I feel the pain of if you feel you gotta steal a caption, now go for it. Now, if you're gonna steal someone's heartfelt caption for somebody, you know what I mean? Like a heartfelt caption, like...

Like not just a lyric or something. Not just a lyric. I think it depends on the kind of caption you're copying. Right. You know what I mean? Like if it's just like a funny, silly caption, whatever, if it fits the theme. Like if you felt like Fran's wedding picture caption fit. I'm curious which one. I'm honestly trying to. That's why I just wanted to go look too. I was kind of just thinking the same thing. Like what could it possibly have been? Because I guess, you know, how many variations...

She would have had to also have gotten married on the 21st night of September for this one. Maybe she altered that. Yeah, maybe she off. 21st night of September calls for two looks. Right, that would be... 9-21-24 forever and ever and I just tagged Joe.

She's like, how did she think of that? Oh, and then I did write, it's like rain on your wedding day. Oh, maybe that's it. I'm not the first bride to ever use it's like rain on your wedding day and their caption, if it rained on your wedding day. Right. That's a fair one to use as well. So if you, if it rained on your wedding day and you use the caption, it's like rain on your wedding day, that's fair game. There's millions of brides out there have used that. For sure, that's fair. Song lyrics are fair game. Fair game.

Very fair game. Song lyrics are fair game. Like we can't be nitpicking on like. I really think honestly. I gotta be honest. I think they're. Now we're talking about it. I think all captions are fair game. Yeah. Unless they're super specific catered to the person. You're like. This is kind of weird that you're copying my heartfelt caption for this person. That's a little bizarre. But if it's a lyric. A fucking emoji. Yeah. Maybe a. It is a lot sometimes. A punny. You know. Like.

When Taylor Swift puts out a new album and then every caption is like the same. It is what it is. It's so hard to caption things. You know what I mean? I can't blame people. Especially when you're posting like 20 photos at once now. Right. It's like, here you go. Here's my fucking pictures. That's when I make my next caption. Here's my fucking pictures. Because it's so hard to caption something. So you know what? Fair game. Fair game. If you want to steal someone's caption, you steal their caption. If you want to maybe just make it your own a little bit, do a little zhuzh up to it, fucking do it. Who cares? Yeah.

Agreed. Hi, Rhea, Fran, and Noah. My hot take is that I kind of hate Ekansu on Love Island. I didn't really like her on her original season, but I loved Davide. And now that I'm watching Love Island All-Stars, I have always loved Curtis. And I just really find her annoying. I think she's always like...

She said she's confident, and then she's like, but I'm really just shy and sensitive. And it's just giving six-meat energy, and she's just always stirring the pot. I've heard people say that they think she's a producer plant, and I would not be surprised by that at all. But it's really just like...

the energy she gives with the boys and maybe it's just her way of flirting but it makes me cringe and I hate it and I kind of wish she would get dumped so yeah that's my hot take love you guys look she's an acquired taste for sure like and you know sometimes she does come across like an actress

Yeah, I, you know, I don't feel one way or the other particularly strongly about Ekinsu. I will say in the Ekinsu and Davide couple, it was more Davide that I think roped me in because of his, he was calling Ekinsu a liar and actress, but it was his theatrics that would make things funny. When he was like, that was my line, Natasha. Like things like that were very funny. And I think that's what kind of roped in, you know, their banter. Ekinsu would get mad. Davide would be like, what are you getting mad at? It was a whole thing.

So I think I don't feel necessarily strongly one way or the other. I don't dislike her, but I'm not like an Ekins Sue Stan. Right. And look, she does stir the pot. And I do think she does act differently with the guys and the girls sometimes. Yeah. Like she does. She gets like a little flirty pick me ish kind of vibes with the boys sometimes. And with the other girls, like she stirred up the drama. Like even just one of the other episodes, she was screaming about screaming to Ronnie like,

you said this, you said this. I was, I remember. And, and like, like Luca was like, hecking, you weren't even here yet. Like you weren't like, you weren't even here. Like you, she was like, Oh, I'm just sticking up for my girl, sticking up for my girl. But it's like, okay, well you're just straight up lying because you were not, you weren't present when the conversation even happened. Um, so it's just like,

I think you just have to... They all know how to navigate around Ekid. They just know what kind of personality she is. I think deep down, she means well, but it's like, yeah, she likes the theatrics. So...

I think Curtis likes the theatrics too a little bit. Of course. He's a ballroom dancer. Yeah, exactly. Hi, Ria, Fran, and Noah. This is Kat from Canada, and I have a question for you guys. So my family recently got into a debate, and it was over this question. Would you classify Cameron Diaz as an A-list celebrity? Now, personally, my sister and I were...

quite large advocates for the fact that she is for obvious reasons. However, there was a couple of few who felt like she didn't, uh, based on the fact that she's no longer relevant, which wasn't curating, but any who would love to hear a take. Um, looking forward to hearing it. Thank you.

Oh, I think 100%. Absolutely A-list. 100%. Not even a question in my mind. I don't think that she loses her A-list status from like stepping away from acting when she did to...

also like be with her family and have kids so like yeah no like do you think it's the name recognition is what like it's still there like that's Cameron Diaz is it once you're by the way she just made her return yeah I think once you're a list I think yeah I think there's an s tier where you make that and you never go back like Cameron Diaz is a name that it's like Justin Bieber Justin Bieber is always going to be an a-list celebrity he hasn't put on music in years it's like yeah

Cameron Diaz, 100% A-list. No question about it. I'm trying to think of who is A-list who now isn't. What celebrity was definitely A-list and then they were off? Okay, Pamela Anderson.

Right? She's still A-list, but she took a long time off. But her name is so recognizable that she's always going to be A-list. Some people just have their name, like their name is just synonymous with fame. And like that, like Cameron Diaz is...

Part of that for sure. 100%. I think so too. I am mad for them that they had to argue with their family like that. We would have been riled up in that room. She's not relevant anymore. Oh, please. I mean, she isn't relevant in that way, but her name is still in it. No, but that's not...

He's going to do that. No, I just don't. I'm a Greek. She is. And I, yeah. I just think that's not fair. And I don't think Cameron Diaz is irrelevant. Yeah. You know what I mean? She's just not acting. No, but if Cameron Diaz, excuse me, she just had a movie come out with Jamie Foxx. And if Cameron Diaz, she made her return to acting. Oh, I didn't know. I guess that says. If people heard Cameron Diaz was coming into this. You did know that.

was coming to this office, people would freak the fuck out. Be like, oh my god, fucking Cameron Diaz is coming here? That's insane. Just because she's not all over the internet. It's like Jessica Alba, kind of. In that same realm. But she's even higher than Jessica Alba. Way higher than Jessica Alba. Way higher. But like, name. Name. No, but name too. She's higher than Jessica Alba. More. Movies, roles, name recognition, way higher. Yeah, Cameron Diaz is like Drew Barrymore.

Yeah, but Drew Barrymore has the Drew Barrymore show. So that's, you know, but I think Drew Barrymore is like not because of the show, but like, I don't know. I guess that's a tough one. Like when they were both like, oh, they're best friends. Yeah. Yeah. Hello, Charlie's Angels. They're best friends. Who do you think is more famous right now? This is separate, but Drew Barrymore or Kelly Clarkson? Both very similar. Drew Barrymore. I think that's what I said. Yeah.

Yeah. Because I can... Drew Barrymore's been in so many giant movies. Kelly Clarkson, like... I mean, extremely, extremely similar if you follow, like, the fact that now... And they're also both, like, hosts of their own shows and... Yeah. Yeah. I would lean Drew Barrymore. And just, like, extremely kind, amazing people, it appears, you know? Oh, we know, we... Drew...

We've never gotten to meet Kelly, but I would assume she's 100%. 100%. But Cameron deserves that for sure. She does. Forever. Forever and ever. One more. Hi, Rian Fran. I am really curious your thoughts on if executive producers of reality shows, if they should be allowed to also be cast members.

We see this a lot with Southern Charm, I feel like. It's like the worst example of Whitney being amongst the group and kind of getting to get away with whatever he wants and nobody's going to call him out on it.

Like the whole thing with Catherine, like Craig's the only one that called him out on it. And I just feel like it's really apparent in this recent season where there's just a weird power dynamic between Whitney and Pat and the rest of the cast. So yeah, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Love the pod. Interesting. I've never, I've honestly never really thought about that much because I just feel like while yes, Whitney is an executive producer, um,

He's not really on the show that much. I'm like, he's there. He's around. He's at events. He like, you know, is hanging out with the guys and doing stuff. But he's not like in the drama as much. It's like them being like, oh, here comes Whitney again. Oh, look at Whitney. He's showing up with a 24-year-old blonde. Like, it's like, it's not. I don't feel like there's anything.

that much of a conflict. I don't know, maybe I'm being naive to the situation, but Whitney has, of course, had a way big... He's played a way bigger role on the show in the earlier years and obviously helped just establish the show in the first place. But I don't know how much...

It's a question that I guess we could ask them and we never asked them, but I wonder how much like Whitney is involved in like what is aired and what isn't, or if, if he has any involvement in that at all. I think people are afraid of Ms. Pack. She's yeah. She's Ms. Pat. Like, you know, she's an icon. Yeah. Be respectful. Um,

Yeah, I'm not too familiar with the earlier Southern Charm seasons, so I feel like I'm a bad judge of this. I could understand your point, though. For sure. I understand the conflict of interest for sure, but I'm not too familiar with how involved Whitney is to be able to say whether I think it has a... It's a good question that I've really never thought of. It's like, do new... We can ask. Are new cast members...

like worried about Whitney liking them or not like because he's an EP I don't know I don't know that is very interesting I just feel like he's so like in the background of everything that happens now that I just don't really give him too much thought when I'm currently watching the show and kind of seeing what's going on like I feel like he's just always like in the corner like watching what everybody's doing yeah or he's fishing with JT and Craig and pissing Austin off

Oh, he's a weird guy. Yeah. So, I mean, if he just wasn't involved at all, I feel like that would be cool too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of where it's been. It's like, it's not really his...

anymore. Yeah. Like it was in the Thomas years was like that's way more involved. So yeah. Okay. Good question. Yeah. Makes me want to find out more. I know we should ask. Yeah. Thanks for all your calls and voicemails. If you want to call in the number is 914-297-7089. Leave your pop culture questions your hottest takes whatever you want to talk about call in and ask us at that number. Thank you.

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