Taylor Swift Dissed by Eagles Player + Olivia Attwood Interview
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What's up everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne Friend giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. Happy Wednesday everybody. Welcome back to the studio. Thank you. Welcome back to myself, to the studio as well. Welcome back to you and me. We're both us together. Back together again. Hold my finger. I have to get my nails done so bad. Let me see.

Oh, they're not too bad. They're not, but they're long. Yeah, they are long. They're long. They're reaching talents. For sure. But we are back in studio. Happy to be back in the office. Yes. You know, back to being a human again. Yes. I'm still feeling the Florida heat, though. Like, it is fucking... I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were just radiating warmth from the tan that you've come back with. And my sun-kissed hair. Well, I'm reaching this territory right now where I'm trying to get the perfect hair color for my wedding. So, you know, a while back, my hair was super blonde in the summer. Looking back at the pictures, I'm like, oh my God, I didn't even realize how blonde it was.

Then I dyed it brown and then it got too dark in the winter and I was like, oh, okay, this is too dark now. I don't like when it's that dark. I like it more of like a brown. And so I got some highlights a couple weeks ago, but then I went into the sun all week and now I have even

more highlights. Yeah, the highlights amped up. And now it's kind of reached the territory of where I think I want it to be. Yeah, I agree. Sort of just like a brown with some highlights in it. But I'm like, how do I keep this color? You know, my hair color just changed. It wants to be lighter. It goes into the sun. It wants to be lighter. So, but I like it. The color it's at right now, it's a little brown. It's

Brown, a little highlight. So I'm hoping I can just like bottle up this color and this will be the color for my wedding, hopefully. And yeah, so we'll see what happens. You know, we'll touch it. I'm going to get it touched up before then to perfect the color. But I think this is...

You're definitely, if you're not there already, you're extremely close. Very close. Very, very close. Maybe some in the ends a little bit just to like make it all blend together. But yeah, I feel like I am still in Florida besides when I step outside and it's icy, really icy. Yeah.

I feel like I, like, you know, when you go away, I walked into my apartment. I was like, who even lives here? Not me. Like, that's how long it felt like I was away from everything. And just like being, I was like, oh my God, it's still winter here. Like, I just, it felt like,

The week felt like a long time. And sometimes when you go away and then you come back and you're like, you got to figure out how to be a human again. I'm like, oh, I got to go grocery shop. Like, I'm like, I'm not going out to dinner every night. I'm like trying to figure out how to get back to living. And, you know, realistically, could I use 48 hours of sleep?

Silence? Yes, I very much could. But, you know, that is not in the job description. So I'm trying. We talk for a living. I know. It's not as bad. You sound a bit stuffed up as well. You have a cold? Yeah, look, I don't know. Francesca, we got to nurse you back to health. Look, probably the worst place you can be was where, like, as far as a winter cold or a sickness flying around.

Super Bowl and Bourbon Street. Mm-hmm. You know? That's like just throwing things together in a soup. Oh, God. And just drinking it to get sick. Yeah, it's just...

Just probably germ central. It's the perfect gumbo. Yeah, perfect germ central. Valentine's Day is this weekend. So much good food, but I'm like, I need a salad. Yeah, but Valentine's Day is Friday. I know. Have any fun plans? We're doing dinner, casual. We're doing dinner Thursday night. I'm actually very team day before or day after Valentine's Day to celebrate Valentine's Day because...

I find, and Joe and I agree on this, is that sometimes Valentine's Day is a little amateur hour.

Yeah, it's the pre-menu. That's exactly what I was going to say. The menus. Every good restaurant you want to go to, it's a prefix. You don't have an option. It's a whole package for Valentine's Day. They don't even give you the option anymore. I know. They don't. They're like, oh, and here's a shitty glass of champagne. Right, right, right. And you're like, oh, thanks so much. Right, exactly. You can make it your own. Exactly. We, last year, moved into our apartment. Exactly.

on Valentine's Day and we just like sat on the floor ate Chinese food watched Love is Blind yeah so this year sort of same vibe we're cooking together Love is Blind is gonna be back yeah Love is Blind is actually it's actually on again on Valentine's Day but we're just staying in and cooking together we're gonna make those those short rib ooh

Those braised raviolis that I've been fucking dying to make. Yeah. Some desserts, you know, a nice little Valentine's Day at home. I love it. A little cozy vibe. You know, some cute PJs. That sounds amazing. You know, the whole thing. I have a fucking sweet 16 on Saturday. Holy moly.

I have a sweet 16. Family member? Yes, on Saturday. I haven't been to a sweet 16 since I was 16. I'm not going to lie, that sounds amazing. Solely from the viewpoint of like observing what sweet 16s are like nowadays. Oh, I cannot wait. Yeah. And I think it's going to be a rowdy one. Probably aren't going to be vaping. No, I bet it's going to get wild. And I cannot wait to see.

I have not been to a Sweet Sixteen since I was, have you? Yeah. Since I'm 16. No, yeah. Yeah. Since, for. It's like I went to a bar mitzvah a couple years ago and it was awesome. Right, you're like, wow, the outside looking in. Yep, yep. I've been to a, I've been to a bar mitzvah more recently than a Sweet Sixteen. Because Sweet Sixteen, it was like, none of my cousins or anybody really did a Sweet Sixteen. So, there wasn't too much. I don't think my sister did.

I feel like you would remember if she did a speed 16. Yeah, I would. I would. I'm going to sneak a water bottle in. Water bottle full of vodka. I thought you were going to say Molly water.

That would be insane. Imagine at the Sweet 16. Also, what I'm just saying right now. I'm just rolling at the Sweet 16. Imagine, I was like, yeah, I'm going to slip into Molly at the Sweet 16. I'm looking for some hard drugs at the Sweet 16. That would be insane. I wouldn't be putting it past some of these kids, though. I'm intrigued, though, because I felt like the Sweet 16...

Was it a dying breed a little bit? Like, what do Sweet Sixties look like these days? Who knows? Are they as extravagant? Well, there is a dress code, so I think so. Ooh. Black tie? No, it's all black. Fuck yeah. She can wear pink. Yes. Fuck yes. Like, we have to wear all black. And I think she is wearing pink. She's got to be wearing pink. Has to be. Has to be.

So we're excited for that, honestly. Matt and I were talking about it. We were like, we might as well just act like we're back in high school going to a Sweet 16. Honestly, moments in my life that I would go back and relive, my Sweet 16. I got this. You had a Sweet 16? Yeah. It was joint. Me and my friend, we were two days apart. Oh, sick. So we did a joint one. It was actually a boat trip.

A boat cruise. Sweet 16, what did you wear? On the Hudson. I wore a strapless gold sequined midi dress from Alice and Olivia. Sick. That like, I like cried when my mom let me buy it at the Short Hills Mall. Like at 16, Alice and Olivia was, I might as well have been wearing Dolce & Gabbana. Like I was like, it was...

I thought that's how it felt. And it was amazing. Freaking epic. Yeah. Damn. It was a good time. Damn. We took a couple shots before we got the car to go. Well, of course. Like two shots. I thought I was wasted. Because I really was not a big drinker either. I was a late bloomer when it came to drinking and going out and parties and stuff. So my sweet 16 was... And I was late.

In school My sweet 16 was the beginning of my junior year of high school So that was definitely a little late And I took like two Smirnoff vodka shots And was like let's party Let's fucking go bitches We're cruising around the Hudson There were certain girls that brought water bottles on And I like fake was so mad

You're like the disrespect to my parents. Exactly. Exactly. Oh my God. On the boat. Like, of course they did. Yeah. Like typical them. Exactly. That's so classic. Like acting way drunker than you actually were when you were going to a sweet 16. I remember I fell at a sweet 16. I fell. Yeah. And I was like, I'm just so drunk. Yeah.

That limo ride over was just so crazy. I was the way to be. Oh, man. Really, I just couldn't walk in the fucking six-inch heels I was wearing. Yeah, exactly. That was the issue. You're going to have to send me a lot of pictures because I think that's going to be amazing. Oh, it's going to be epic.

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I was going to say we'll save you, but I don't know. You know what I mean? If you have the New Orleans flu. Yeah. I don't know what else we can do. The bird flu is going around. It's everybody. Like the neurovirus. My whole family got the neurovirus before we went to the Super Bowl. I heard about that. Yeah. Because. I didn't get it. Matt.

asked Joe to go play basketball. They needed someone for the Barstool team. Yeah. And Joe was like, I would, but I fucking have the neurovirus. I was like, what? Yeah. The neurovirus. He got sick like as I was leaving on Monday. And I, at the same time of like feeling bad for him, I was like, bye. Bye.

I was like, get me the fuck out of this apartment. I mean, I don't blame you. There's nothing scarier to me than the norovirus. I felt so bad. I was like, every day I was Instacarting stuff to the apartment for him because I was like, oh, he's an idiot. And you know how boys are when they're sick. He's FaceTiming me. Hi. What do I take? What do I take?

Something about doing that makes you feel better. Yeah. Like the neuromavirus is a fucking beat down. Oh, yeah. So Gia got it. JB got it. JB got it too. And JB. Well, you know what? It might have been JB's birthday party. It was. I think it was dinner. Well, they did multiple people. I think it was Gia. They all they all hit Gia's pen.

I said, that's why you say no to drugs, kids. I was like, look at me flying to New Orleans. Totally good. And you're all throwing up, shitting. It was the birthday party. That is the thing that no one thinks about, I feel like. Because you're not like passing drinks to people. Pass around the vape, pass around the pen. They all got sick.

Not little old me. Right. Probably a lot of that this weekend. Yeah. A lot of that. It's, yeah. Hey, taste this. Hey, taste that. Yeah. It was, so like all that, and every, you know, whatever, everybody made it. It's fine. But like I said. Holy shite. Mom doesn't feel right now, so who knows. Oh yeah, no, that's not good. That's not good. But. Hopefully you're okay though. I do feel like it has been every, like, I see so many posts. It's neurovirus.

Bird flu, the flu, the cold, whatever. Please, I'm not even trying to think about any of this. I do not want to get sick. We all know I'm prone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've been great. Your immune system has been working overtime for you. It's been great. So I'm going to knock on my head or whatever. I'm going to knock on this Trent box. Yeah, that's some faux wood right there. It's been a good winter for me. But that's it, really. We can jump into some topics. I...

It was a long flight home. Amy Schumer was on my flight. I saw that. She boarded the plane before me. She went, you know like when you're so famous you don't even have the app, like the Delta app on your phone? What does she do? She scanned like a PDF. Like your assistant definitely sent her the ticket. Someone sent it to her. You know? Yeah. That kind of thing. She doesn't even need the app. Were people coming up to her?

Um, not really. And let me tell you something. The morale for, I mean, Eagles fans, like everybody's feeling good, but the airport after the Super Bowl, everyone is wiped, exhausted. Nobody wants to talk. The airport was so crowded. Yeah.

The lines were insane. The traffic was insane. So people are moving and grooving and trying to just get on their flights. A lot of flights were delayed. They just want to get the hell home. Exactly. And who can blame them? Confession before we get into the rest of the topics. I did not put on deodorant this morning and I can't stop thinking about it. Like, it's truly sad. You know when you, like, I just can't stop thinking about it. And it's not that you even, you know,

Most of the time you don't even really smell, but you just are hyper aware of it because you know you didn't put on deodorant. Right. Like I don't think I smell right now, but all I can think about is do I possibly smell right now? Well, I'm sitting the closest to you and I can't breathe. So don't, you know. Perfect. I didn't even put two and two together. You could stick up the place. I can't smell you. I just smelled my armpits. That's gross. I can't help it. I can't smell you, so you should be good. I can't help it.

Sue me. Whatever happens to me happens to me. I can't get off this high. I'm riding a goddamn high. I think I've watched every clip, every behind the scenes. I'm listening to shows I don't listen to so I can hear them talk about the Eagles. Cooper Dijon is not a safety. It's amazing. I can't stop. This morning, in the shower, thought to myself,

what if I just become an Eagles fan? Like I literally, I had that thought and I thought, no, you can't just do that right after they win a Super Bowl. Like I would have had to have done it in like October or November. I would have had to have been like, okay, I'm joining now. Like you, I'm becoming an honorary Eagles fan with the Marianos. That is done. I don't care that my fiance is a Giants fan. I am joining the Eagles. Yep.

I didn't do that. And I thought about this morning. I'm like, shit. Cause like, I don't listen. My family, they're Jets fans. It's, I'm never going to be, you know, woohoo about the Jets. Look at, yeah, look at, look at what I've done to Joe. Yeah. He is a Jets fan. I'm not, and he's shouting and screaming for the Eagles. Yep. I'm never going to be woohoo about the Jets. And,

And then my fiance's a Giants fan. I'm never going to be woohoo about the Giants. Well, if they're in the Super Bowl, you would... Yeah, I would root for them, right? But it just seems... That's how Joe is, right? It just seems like... It's not like he's like an Eagles fan all year long. No, but we're getting there. Right? No way. He's heading in that direction. He's just going to stop rooting for the Jets? No, he'll root for the Jets, but, you know... Different division. Yeah. So it's fine. Different conference. They rarely play each other. Yeah. So...

I was like, what if I just become an Eagles fan? But it's too late now. You should have done it right after they lost. That would have been like...

Right. In 2023 when they lost, I should have been like, I'm joining. You know what they need? Me. You know what they need? They need Big Rhea to step in here and become a fan. Did you see the gronk on Jimmy Fallon three years in a row predicting the wrong winner? Yes. Because both years he went against the Chiefs and then this year he was like,

I can't go against the Chiefs again. And then he was like, if you're an Eagles fan, you should be happy with this pick. I'm wrong every year. And he was wrong again. He picked the Chiefs. I'm also getting now Gronk highlights all over my TikTok. Because everyone's like, he's so much better than Travis. Yes, it's the debate now. But this has become a heavy football talk podcast. But there's a debate on my... I just have all football highlights. Have you seen any of the stuff that Jameis Winston did down in New Orleans? Yes! Oh my God, he was so funny. He looked like a black!

- He was so funny, every video is cracking me up. Screaming about trying to get on the Jags owner's yacht that was on the river. - It's incredible. It's my entire for you, I think that's kind of why I was like, "Ooh, I need to pick a fandom." Because I'm getting fed so many highlights, it's amazing, it's giving me the itch.

I now have all of these comparison videos between Gronk and Travis Kelsey. Damn. But they're catered towards Gronk. Right. Well, that's the right answer. So all of my videos right now are just like...

Gronk, like, interceptions. Yeah, yeah. Gronk spikes. Like, every Gronk interview, and I'm like, how did... Gronk interceptions. Gronk touchdowns. It just... What do you mean? Like, him intercepting the ball. Gronk would never intercept the ball. He's not on defense. Whatever. I was gonna let that go. I was not gonna... Oh, okay. I'm so sorry. I didn't use the correct phrasing. I might as well just go off a fucking bridge and jump off. Shouldn't I? I would like to say...

That that one was not on me. I was going to let that ride. That was him. She said Gronk Interceptions. He looked at me. He looked at me like, oh, Interceptions. Fucking idiot. Yeah.

I'm not going to Travis Kelsey side now. You should. You should. After that whole thing. There's an argument for Travis. I'm just talking here. Sorry I don't know the exact words. Because like Gronk's a better blocker. I would say he's a better. You're better at interception? No, no, no. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're moving on. We're not talking about this. Gronk is a great interceptor. Yeah. Those interceptions are crazy. Oh my God. No, no. We're not. We're moving along here. We don't need. It's over for him? Yeah. Travis? No. I don't. I don't.

All the memes of him being like, I was supposed to propose tonight are so funny. They're like, he has a sweaty ring in his pocket. There was no way that was going to happen. Why did anybody fucking think that Travis Kelsey would propose in the most cliche, tacky way possible after winning the Super Bowl? Use your brains. And who would want that? She doesn't want that. No one wants that. Nobody wants that. I have seen videos of people being like, do you think that even for a second that Taylor Swift got the ick?

Watching the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah, yeah. I saw that. I mean... Like him pouting and trying to fight other players. I don't think so. Not even for a second, being like, ugh. I think... She's never seen him like that. I think she supports him all the way through. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Listen, they were a couple of losers last week. That was just... I think you have to support...

On both sides, you know? She was at the Grammys. Didn't go well for her. Travis loses it, you know? But she was a more gracious loser. Well, they have each other. And that's a win. Yep, exactly. It's beautiful. I can't believe I said Gronk Interceptions. No, but I actually like that you doubled down. You're like, when he intercepts it!

Otherwise known as a catch. Duh! You know? You're right. I was like, because I'm seeing more football lately, I was trying to use a term. And I used it so wrong. You're like, you know, or just a catch. Otherwise known as a catch. He intercepts the ball. It's not as cool when he blocks the air from catching it. It's not as cool to be like, oh, those Gronk catches. Reception. Yes. Yes.

Is that what they call them? Yeah. Okay. That's probably the word you were looking for. That's probably it. Gronk's receptions. All of Gronk's receptions. Yeah. He's got a lot of them. He has a ton of them. He's got a ton of them.

Let's do some topics. Anyways, that's enough football talk for me. I won't be joining the fandom anytime soon. Well, anyways. Study up on your terminology. Yeah, I'm going to have to study up. Even though there is more. There was other Taylor stuff. That is football, Jason. Yeah, we'll talk about that later on in the show. And I'll study up for next September. Let's get into the rest of the show. We're going to be talking about Pete Davidson's new Reformation campaign. Yep. Interesting. I have some thoughts about

The New Heights Swifties debacle on the internet. The girlies are fighting. What is happening? I know. I know. What is happening?

Fucking piece of shit, Kanye. Don't even want to give it the airtime. Don't even want to fucking... We may talk about it for 45 seconds. Just to say he's a disgusting piece of shit. Yeah. Literally, that's it. And we have a fantastic interview with Olivia Atwood. We've been fans for years. If you guys know OG Love Island season three. Fantastic. And so much more that we talked about. She's doing a ton right now. It's amazing. And we have the Pop Corner. So let's get into the topics. You all know it.

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So Pete Davidson is now in this Reformation campaign, the boyfriend campaign. And I just have something to say, a little something, okay? Okay. Love the campaign. I appreciate seeing Pete Davidson in anything. I'm a Pete Davidson fan.

Not too long ago, Pete Davidson did a little interview where he was like, I don't want to be known as just the guy who dates people. And I don't want to be known as just like the boyfriend. And I'm Pete Davidson. I'm so cool and artsy. And like, I'm doing these socks now. Just to show up to be a whole boyfriend campaign. Like, that's who you are, Pete Davidson. Just own it. You are the people's boyfriend. Just own it.

Look, Reformation must have made him an offer he could not refuse because in these pictures he's wearing a sweatshirt and it literally says official boyfriend. And he's like...

on for dating people. Yeah. And now you're the how much did they pay you Pete? Right. Which I first of all if he never did this interview I'd be like fucking genius. I'm such a big Pete Davidson fan. He looks fantastic. He looks amazing. He looks healthier than ever these days. He's looking great. Tattoo free. I've seen some interviews of him where he How do the tattoos get removed so cleanly? Like I feel like usually you can kind of tell it's just gone. If I had to guess there was some They did some touch ups. There was some touch ups for the camera. They did some smoothing and touch ups.

No, I think like Photoshop. They Photoshop. Oh, no, I'm talking about like I see videos of him like at the Super Bowl and stuff. Oh, no, I mean he's totally tattoo free, but I'm saying he's like in some of these pictures he's shirtless. Right. So I'm just thinking like he's shirtless and it looks –

Completely smooth and clean and everything. Tattoo removal sometimes leaves marks and whatever. So I feel like there maybe was a little touch-up action. But he looks great. He looks fantastic. I want to buy the sweatshirt. I'm so in on this campaign. But don't deny it then, Pete. Don't try to be this. I don't want to date people publicly. I don't want to be known as this.

Yep. Fully elated. You're the official boyfriend. You're America's boyfriend. Yep. Deal with it. Yep. And what a great title. There's nothing wrong with it. Poor Pete Davidson. He dates a bunch of hot celebrity women. Yeah, right. Who are supposed to feel bad for him. You know what I mean? It's like, what? Everybody loves him. Right. You know, it's a good thing. Wear it with a badge of honor. He is on his campaign sweater. The official boyfriend. Yep. But.

No, it's an unlikely, unexpected collab. I didn't think Reformation and Pete Davidson, I wouldn't put those two together, but I love it. I think it was genius. Yeah, I think it's great work. Smart marketing move. It's a great campaign. Throw somebody unexpected into it. Love it.

Really, really quick because I really don't even think he deserves attention, but obviously have to call out how fucking disgusting and atrocious this is. If you didn't see Kanye ran an ad during the Super Bowl for his website and the only thing that was on sale was a t-shirt with a swastika on it, which is just fucking insanity and so, so, so gross. He is a humongous piece of shit, the most vile person. I do not understand how he's still allowed like on the internet, you know,

even allowed in public. Like, I just don't understand any of it. I do not understand. He should not be allowed to do business. Like, no one should work with him. Nobody. I don't understand how anybody does. It is vile. It is hateful. It is spreading just extreme, like, anti-Semitic rhetoric. It's just really... It's disgusting. It's so terrible. And there... I am shocked by, like...

I've seen people now talking about it on social media, but this should be... He should be condemned on all levels. And honestly, I don't know if he pulled a fast one on the NFL or whatever. I think the NFL has some control over what commercials air and whatnot. I saw that he posted, like, is there still room for me to buy a commercial? That was after all of his insane tweets. So, like...

I think they're just like, we'll take the money. You know what I'm saying? How does that go? Yeah, I don't know. It's really, it's just disgusting. And that's, you know, it deserves to be publicly condemned on all levels. And at the same time,

Like, he does not deserve any air from anybody else. No, it's just... It's also, like, the endless tweets that just get worse and worse and worse and worse. Yeah, it's terrible. How is he allowed on any platform? It's actually insane. He's such a garbage human pile of shit. Like, he is just so terrible. It's disgusting. Like, I don't...

Oh, God. It's just... There's nothing really else to say. Exactly. It feels like it'll end up BS repeating ourselves because it's just... It's gross. It's terrible. It is the worst of the worst. And...

No one should support him in any way possible. And it's been like that for a while now. But my God, does he just keep making it worse and worse and worse and worse. And he gets more and more and more sick. I'm just like, how does he keep popping up? You think he goes away and he just keeps popping up. I wish he would just disappear. Like truly just disappear. I agree. I agree. It's terrible. It's terrible. Absolutely awful. But moving on.

What is happening with the New Heights Twitter and the Swifties? They were upset about New Heights congratulating the Eagles on Twitter. The Eagles, the New Heights post included pictures of Jason Kelsey. And Jason said he thought that was weird. The post got removed. There's a lot going on. There is. I don't know. You know, it probably all started from Taylor getting booed at the game.

And people being very upset about that. Commentary around that. Our president's commentary around that, which was bizarre as always. And at this point, like, here's the thing. I understand people, I understand the Swifties being upset of her being booed. And 100%, I am sure there are people there that are

The boo's coming from a bad place. Like they're just being hateful and they don't like her. It's the guys that are like, I don't want to see her on my TV. Like those guys. It is also the Super Bowl. And they are showing celebrity fans, celebrity people, and it's the Eagles and it's the Chiefs, and the Eagles fans are going to see Taylor Swift and be like, boo, you're here rooting for the Chiefs. Just like...

Paul Rudd. They show Paul Rudd. Boo! Paul Rudd rooting for the Chiefs. So, I hope...

Because now there's these reports, oh, Taylor was so upset, took it so personally. And that breaks my heart because I really hope that that is not fully the case. It was saying Taylor was upset? I saw the ones about Travis was upset about Taylor. No, it said both. It said Travis was super upset, Taylor was upset. This is like credit to Taylor Swift. I think that...

Her reaction was like. She was like. What's going on? Like she sort of knew. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I feel like.

would know that it was coming from a place of like, oh, I'm rooting for the Chiefs and these are Eagles fans. But I could still see a place where you get booed and you're like, what the fuck? Like, why am I getting booed so hard? Obviously, that's not a good feeling. Travis is being protective and obviously, you know, he's going into the game, but he's thinking about, is she okay? She just got booed really hard. So many different elements to it. So, obviously, people were upset about that. Definitely. So that happens...

The new white social team put out a graphic on social supporting, you know, congratulations to the Eagles. It was a lot of pictures of Jason and a lot of the...

Swifty world on social were very upset that this was posted, that they would be congratulating the Eagles, that it would be taken away from Travis, that, like, so inappropriate of them, that Jason's not on the team anymore, like, they should be supporting Travis, and, like, because Taylor supports Travis, they support Travis, everyone should support Travis, they shouldn't be congratulating the Eagles. The...

of it was crazy. Like people comment, oh, the Swifty's coming, delete this, like blah, blah, blah. It ended up all getting deleted. So everyone, so then that turned into, oh my God, these Swifty accounts are so nuts. They're making, they can't even let the new heights like tally

team put out a post congratulating the Eagles Jason's been very clear that while yes he's rooting for his brother he has a lot of people in the Eagles organization that he is super close with and rooting for and it's put him in a tough spot but like they won the game

So they can throw out a congratulations. Just a congratulations. I mean, he was an Eagle last year and Kylie Kelsey is humongous Eagles fan. Like, yeah, just a, just a congratulations to the Eagles, which is super normal. It was a very normal post. Very normal. Um, now from Jason's point of view, which he is now clarified because he tweeted about it as well, is that he had told, uh,

They have to take it down because he felt they had used too many photos of him and he wasn't playing in the game. He's retired. It's done. Super fair. Because there's also, I'm sure, a little bit of Jason that's like, I should have held on for one more year. They win the year after you retire. You're like, fuck. You have to a little bit. I'm sure he was like, okay, these are all pictures of me. But he was on the team when they won in 2017, right? Yes. Okay.

He does. Phew! Yeah. He's got a Super Bowl win in Minneapolis, loss in Arizona. And so I'm sure there's a part of that. And like, you're like, oh, don't take my face off all this. Right. Like I wasn't on. You want to give props to the other players. And I think it also comes out of respect maybe for Travis a little bit too. It's like, don't put my face on all this. Right. Like I didn't beat my brother. Exactly. So then Jason did actually on Tuesday put out a very long tweet. He joked about it being the longest tweet ever of...

his support for Travis and how he must be feeling and the emotions and how at the same time happy he is for Jalen and Nick Sirianni and the Eagles organization to be able to do this. Now, the Swifties are also very upset and this one, like this, valid, could not agree more. CJ Gardner-Johnson, who is a defensive back for the Eagles, he had a moment where

He made a play on Travis. He kind of got in Travis' face a little bit. And there was a little two-second standoff where they're sizing each other up. He posted a screenshot of the photo of that moment, and he wrote something along the lines of...

You shouldn't have. You should have stayed with that thick shit. Yeah, you should have stayed with that thick shit. Horrible. And he had like the, which is. Horrible. Gross, vile, inappropriate, unnecessary. I find that to be like a really low level, especially when you win a game like that. And the way you win it. And instead of just hyping yourself, your teammates, like.

You talk shit. So classless. It is. It's really unnecessary. He did not need to do that. I think it was really extremely inappropriate. I understand why people were very upset about that. It just goes to a different level because now the Swifties are like attacking his family and his mom and his mom's business and like trying to get like

things like trying to hurt the business like doing all these things it's like you know

What he said is wrong. You could be mad at him. What does mom have to do with it? You know? So... And also, he doesn't speak for the entire Eagles team and organization at all. If anything, I'm sure everybody was pretty upset about that. I'm sure they were disgusted with him. I'm sure they were like, why did you have to go and do that? We won. Why couldn't you just accept that we won and had to do such a classless, pathetic loser move like that? Yeah, not cool. But he doesn't speak for the rest of the Eagles and the rest of the organization, so...

You know, you still have to give credit where credit's due to the other players and the team as a whole and, you know, disregard...

a piece of shit move obviously like horrendous I understand why people are mad and upset about that it's ridiculous to do something like that it's like that's what you're focused on after you win the Super Bowl like that's so lame like for one of your first posts to be that it's like just like having so much having so much real estate in your head that that's what you post is so fucking lame after you win the Super Bowl yeah it's insane but I did not like that at all I thought that was extremely inappropriate right um

But Jason should be able to congratulate the Eagles on winning the Super Bowl. You know, like there has to be a line here. Yeah. Yep. And I think like it all kind of wrapped up.

in each other. You know, they saw the Instagram story from CJ, oh, the Eagles, like, look at what this Eagle did. That's so bad. They shouldn't congratulate the Eagles. Look what they're saying about Taylor. It's like, okay, that, yeah, it's just the same thing. It's just like, he, that's him. He posted that. Bad, not cool. Don't do that. Um,

But it shouldn't take away from the fact, like, the rest of the players. One player doesn't speak for the entire fan base. No, and then also, Jason has talked about the fact that he has, you know, Travis is his brother, but he has brother-like bonds with a lot of people on the Eagles. So, you know, he wants to give them that credit and congratulate them. Yeah, it's got to be super conflicting. You know, you're...

upset about the way it went down for Travis because realistically you're probably rooting for everybody to play at a high level, a great game, you know, where it's like,

And it was just a blowout. But like Jason said in his post, you can read it too, the Chiefs have been so extraordinary. They've accomplished so much. Travis has accomplished so much. They've won two Super Bowls in a row. They have so much to be proud of. He's just reiterating that right now, you know, it hurts. But there's so much else going on too. So...

It was just crazy that I feel like maybe Jason felt like he had to put that tweet out and kind of address it. I'm sure he'll talk about it on the podcast too. Right. It took a bizarre turn for sure. So now they were all very bad online. People go back and forth. The Twitter fandom of really any superstar is out of this world when you see things that are said. But...

sometimes this swifty stuff is like next level yeah but that was going on there i'm sure they'll you know i don't think they'll address all the other parts of it um but i he won't but he he won't but he should like cj should apologize for posting something like that i think that's ridiculous gross yeah so unnecessary yeah so yeah all right that wraps up the topics all right

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All right, let's get into the Pop Corner. We're going to take your voicemails, your hot takes, whatever you want to talk about this week. Reminder, if you want to call in for the Pop Corner every Wednesday, the number is 914-297-7089. Leave us your questions and we will be taking them every Wednesday. So let's get into it. Hi, ladies. My friends are having a Bravo themed birthday party and I'm looking for a niche party

Bravo couple for my boyfriend and I to go dressed as. Some of my ideas currently are Luann and the Pirate or Kim Zolciak and Big Papa. So thinking along those lines, if you had any ideas, I would love to hear them. Love the pod. Bye.

Luann and the pirate is a good one. Any of those New York housewives and Tom. A throwback Vanderpump one. One of the older ones. Right. Jax and the girl that was in Eartha Miller's with the boner garage tattoo. Kelsey Ballerini bidding on a date with Craig. Yeah.

I forgot about that. The early seasons of Southern Charm. I forgot that happened. This is a good question. Yeah, it is. I want to study up on... I'm even just trying to think of just random... Random Bravo couples. Stories and hookups. Right. That's kind of why I said the Jax thing was like so... Well, you know, that was the whole Stassi thing. Sutton's gone on a few dates with the...

But people that haven't stuck. What about Sutton and Hugh Jackman? Yeah. Trying to go even like show by show. Now I'm looking at a list of, it's just the worst Bravo couples of all time. Oh my God. Oh my God. That's it. Luann and Joe Bradley. Oh my God. Yes.

Because watching Southern Hospitality and that whole storyline unfolding. Yeah. Yeah. That's my pick. Luann and Joe Bradley. Luann and Joe Bradley. Luann and the pirate is funny and obviously it's a lot easier to just like dress up as a pirate. Right. Like trying to be Joe Bradley. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Those are all fun. Those are all fun. Yes. All right. Let's do another one.

Hey, Rianne Fran. This is Becca from Milwaukee. My hot take is that I do not find Channing Tatum attractive. I don't know if it's because of the roles that he's played in movies or what. And I know, like, everyone, like, I feel like loves him and thinks he's so hot. And

I just, he does not do it for me. And so my hot take is that like when I see him in a movie or anything, I like kind of turn away. I'll still watch it, but this is the hottest take of all shit. I don't see the obsession that I feel like everyone had about him with Magic Mike. So it got me thinking of what is your hot take of like who everyone thinks is hot that you're like, it just doesn't do it for me. Thanks. Love you guys.

See, now that's a good question because there have been definitely there have been times where I've been like that person doesn't do it for me and we disagree on it. But Channing Tatum is not one I can be the guy. Channing Tatum is not that guy. Honestly, cannot get on board with the Channing Tatum one. Respect. But my immediate reaction of she sees him on TV. She looks away. Right. Like she's disgusted. And she mentioned Magic Mike.

Right. How is it that he's a perfect specimen of a man? Him and Joe Manganiello. Seriously. In Magic Mike. You know what I watched on the plane was Find Me to the Moon. It was Channing Tatum and Scarlett Johansson. It was cute and I truly couldn't have had more of an opposite thought when watching the movie of being like, God, Channing, she's just sick.

A hot man. He is. And he had a bad haircut in that movie too. Let me tell you, he was like the guy. Like, you know, besides Zac Efron. But like when She's the Man came out. There's also something about like when he gets angry in a movie that I'm like, oh my God. There's just added sex appeal. This has turned us into just being like, Channing Tatum is so hot. We can't agree. You know, I will say this happened recently with a real life person that...

This was a real life person, like all your friends talked about whatever. And I was like, guys, I just don't see it. You just don't see it. And I can't say because it's like a real life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When I say it, when I say it after you'll you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. And I was like, I just don't.

Trying to remember if I can think. No, I look, I'm pretty easily. I don't really have a hot take when it comes to this category because you all know, like I am extremely easily persuaded when it comes to admiring an attractive man. You know, I've been boy crazy my entire life. It doesn't take much. Yeah, it doesn't take much. I feel like you guys weren't really on like the rat boyfriend wave.

Like, did those guys go for you? I love Timothee Chalamet. Yeah, I don't really count him. And I loved Challengers. I love Josh O'Connor. Yeah, I loved Challengers. Jeremy Allen White.

Yeah. Jeremy Allen White, too. I mean, Challengers, I literally talked about that movie. The other one in Challengers that's not Josh O'Connor is... You know who I'm talking about? Yes. I will say, not my favorite. Mike Feist? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know who I didn't get for a really long time, but now I do, was George Clooney. I didn't understand George Clooney, but then I watched...

oceans 11 yep and then i was like i understand yeah it's clooney exactly you know exactly i'm just gonna look up a list list of hot celebrity guys it's it's all and then we're just gonna be like agree agree agree i'm i'm really still stuck on this channing tatum thing i'm so stuck i can't i couldn't disagree more yeah about the channing tatum situation yep really it's fucking channing tatum it is it is that's insane i i love them all

Not going to be able to name one. I just love them all, you know, for, I guess it's, I can't think of somebody that's an equivalent to Channing Tatum.

That's my thing. Like the Channing Tatum, that's a hot take. Like I can't think of somebody that is so universally thought as being hot that I'm like, eh. Well, you know who I actually, who grew on me a lot was Ryan Gosling. Okay. So like Ryan Gosling initially. Yeah. I wasn't like, oh my God, Ryan Gosling. But then I saw Crazy Stupid Love. Then I saw The Place Beyond the Pines. Yep. You know, then he did the Barbie movie and he was so funny in that. And then Ryan Gosling really grew on me. Yeah.

But still, not comparable to Channing Tatum. Nope. Nope. Nope. Good question, though. I bet, I do bet,

people will write and DM us and tell us people that they have a hot take about them. For sure. For sure. Hi, Rhea, Fran, and Noah. This is Savannah. On this season of The Traitors, Wes mentioned that he, Rob, and Derek were all on their individual Mount Rushmores for their shows. I'm wondering if you could create your own Mount Rushmore of reality TV stars who would be on there. Thanks. Gosh, that's a good question, too.

We may have to listen to some of these before we... Because we have to think about it so hard. Yeah, they really... It's like that's a full-blown draft you have to think of almost. You know? That'd be cool. Reality TV. It's just hard to... Reality TV star draft. Yeah, it's just hard to... We should do that for sure. It's so hard to... It's hard to think on the spot. Right, because you think of one person... Across the board. And then you remember somebody else.

Yeah. Is Boston Rock not on yours? Just reality TV though is so broad. Like are we talking competition shows? Because now I'm jumping to Love Island. Are we talking Bravo, Love Island? Yeah. Like I think you almost have to separate them. I think we just have to go competition. Like more like dating, love, and then competition is another one. I think we have to go competition for this because they were all competition reality stars. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right.

Let me tell you, Wes wouldn't be on mine. But I have bananas. What though? Johnny Bananas, definitely. Yeah. 100%. But see, this is where like, does American Idol count? Like, I put Kelly Clarkson on there. No, no, no. I'm, I'm, that's a competition. It's a singing competition. Right. But I think like, yeah,

I'm thinking like challenges, like competing. But like then. Physical. But like Big Brother, I guess. Here's my issue. Like The Bachelor and like that type of stuff. Right. Yeah, here's my issue. Like I don't, it's tougher for me because I don't, I've never watched Survivor. I've never watched Big Brother. So that just eliminates a giant pool of people that people would be like, they should be on there. I still can't believe you haven't watched Survivor.

Let's actually do this draft though and categorize it. Yeah. This is a really good idea. Yep. Thank you so much for calling in. And I love the idea. This is going to take a lot of thought. It does. Because there's so many different avenues we're going to have to narrow them down. Right, right, right. Because then immediately I'm like Maura Higgins. Right. But that's, you know. She's on my restaurant. Yeah.

We know. Because then you're automatically thinking those are like love and dating. Yeah. But then you go to this past season of Love Island USA, and I just want to put them all on there. Yeah. Honestly, Pilot Pete hops to my mind. Now he's on Bachelor, he was on Real. Traitors, he was on Real. Battle of the Paddles. Yeah, Battle of the Paddles. Bleeding on Battle of the Paddles. Right. Okay, this is now three episodes in a row where Pilot Pete's name has been brought up. We have to put like a ban on his name going forward this year.

This is the third episode in a row that his name has come up. I can't stop talking about him, so. Let's get him back on the pod. He has...

He's never been on the show. No, he was on the show one time when he's promoting his show at Sirius and he's denied us every single time after that. Probably because... Remember when you were like, you said something so blunt to him and he was just like caught off guard? Because that was when he was media trained and then the whole thing happened. That was the beginning. That was before his Bachelor season even aired. Right, and then the whole thing happened and then Kelly Flanagan came on the show and talked about their relationship and the whole thing and then he did a Bachelor's in the City podcast and then

We never heard from him again on this show. But now that Fran's his best friend, he could potentially come back on. And once again, there's a limit on talking about him now. Done. But where do we draw the line on like home improvement? Reality. You're making my head spin with the home improvement shows. We're going to put Ty Pennington in there. Should we do no hosts though? Well then hosts is a totally different ball game. He's not competing. Right, right, right, right, right.

We could do a... Like, Chris Harrison would be on there. Like, you gotta go contestant. You gotta go contestant. We gotta do a whole... Contestants only. Mount Rushmore for hosts, too. Hosts? That might be an easier one to do. There's not as many to choose. Hosts would be... Yeah. Would you put Ryan... Did you guys see that? Would you put Ryan Seacrest up there? Yeah. Oh, come on. For, you know, American... Yeah, I was just, you know, throwing it out there. Um...

But then it's like Simon Cowell and then it's like Did you guys see those clips from the Spanish Temptation Island? Oh yeah. No I didn't see. Wait you haven't seen? No. What? Montoya. Montoya. Montoya por favor. Por favor. I almost want to like film like have on the podcast you watching for the first time. Seriously should I do it? Yeah pull it up. Okay I'll pull it up. This is like the most viral thing on the internet for the past week. I have not seen this. Oh my god. The Spanish Temptation Island. It's crazy. How have I not seen this? I haven't seen it.

He's so sad. How disgusting. How disgusting, honey. How are you going to regret this? With the little leg that you broke! You broke it! Cry! Cry! Cry with that mess! Cry! This is what you want in your life! Are we going to sleep? Yes. Sit down, please, Montoya. It's a pity. It's a before and after. He's doing it for revenge. You have to use the answer.

This is insane.

Oh my god, no! No!

oh my god I don't even run into the ocean

Oh my god. Holy shit. Oh my god. What? What the fuck? What the fuck? What the hell? Did I just watch

I told you. I told you. I need like a... First of all, I'm actually sweating right now. What the fuck did I just watch? They're full-blown having sex. No, no. No, that is when my... When I fully... That's why I said, don't worry, you will have a crazy reaction. He's pile driving. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. On TV. And he drops to his knees. No. Right. Right.

It's being said it's to be one of the craziest reality TV moments. Like, it's got... More is coming out, like, different scenes. Yeah, because I think the show is, like, on right now. Yeah, so, like, now, like, he's cheating in a new one that came out. Yeah, and apparently... First of all, look at me. I have goosebumps. I have goosebumps.

All this context of like what he was doing before and then what she was doing before. Then there was this moment. It's like what she's doing now, what he's doing now is crazy. Kevin's been documenting it because there's been a lot of follow-ups. There's been like a lot of follow-up clips that have gone viral of like how he reacted and what happened. But my God, it's something. I am speechless. I'm going to have to take a moment to digest everything I just saw.

You know when someone wants to show you something and wants to get your reaction and you're kind of nervous about what you're going to see because you don't want to let them down? That is not. That's why I had no problem showing up. Normally I would have said like, oh, maybe. I said, watch it. That is not what I was expecting. And I am so blown away by all.

I have never seen a show so clearly show two people having sex like that. I know. I don't know what rules they have over there for showing sex on television, but they're having their full blown sex. On the American Temptation Island, it's like, what do they show? They don't.

they'll show like I mean granted not all like people moving under covers yeah but they don't show people fucking no like those two people are fucking yeah yeah yeah like that's like and all the other clips it's happening too so I feel like that's just like the show right wow wow I am put them on the Mount Rushmore yeah

Wow. I know. I was going to say, we just completely did not answer that question at all, but I'm glad we came to this moment. I'm really glad. And that wraps up the popcorn. I need a minute. I need a minute to myself. Wow.

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All right, everyone, we are here with a very special guest. We are joined by TV personality, Olivia Atwood. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me, girls. Host, podcaster, reality TV superstar. Really does it all, especially right now, too. Yeah, it's busy at the minute, yeah. We felt that way because, you know, we see everything that you're doing, and then, of course, we're looking. I'm like, oh, my God, and it's all, like, happening right now. There's new seasons. Yeah.

premiering, your podcast is back, working on other shows, and now you just spent a week in New York for a fashion show. How was, fashion shows, fashion week. How was for a fashion show? Shows that we weren't invited. Can you tell I went to the Super Bowl? Yeah, you went to the Super Bowl. I fear that's more fun. Could be.

Could be argued, yes. How have you been liking New York? I love New York. You know, I haven't actually been to the city in probably, I was trying to work it out, like almost maybe a decade. Like I was a teenager last time I was here. I lived in Canada for part of my childhood, so we were coming into New York a lot. But I love it. It's a great city. I was saying to everyone since I've been here, I feel like the cultural difference between like East Coast and London is not too different. I feel like, you know, people straight to the point, you know, the weather's different.

Everyone has somewhere to be, something to do, and it just feels quite similar. Everyone's on the go. Yeah, the sarcastic sense of humor. When I'm in LA, I'll drop sarcastic humor, and a girl's like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I was like, oh no, it's a joke. No, they don't get it. They do not get it in LA. We've had the same experiences when we went there sort of for the first time when we started filming.

I had the same reaction I feel like I said a joke and you're like oh my god and I was like wait I'm okay it's all going to be okay so I totally feel what you're saying the similarities between New York and London sort of yeah what have been your favorite shows this week

probably Tory Burch last night that was cool it was nice like it was it was a nice crowd and the clothes were great yeah is Tory Burch making a huge comeback like Tory Burch is in right now I feel like very much so like almost everything that walked past I was like I don't have that I

I have this, I'm going to put it on my socials, I think in a bit. I actually was trying to be in my cool fashion era and I got out of the car and I basically slipped on like a piece of ice and did like a, it was always, I always wish I'd just gone down because you know when you save yourself, it's almost more humiliating. I did like a, and then I was like,

And you sort of act like it didn't happen. That feeling is still there. Sometimes when you feel the fall coming, you just got to go down. You just got to go down. Yeah. We joked about it. Here in New York, you get one fall a year. Oh, okay. It just doesn't happen right now this week. It's going to happen. It's too icy. I'm good for one new fall. So even true New Yorkers, they're falling down? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Especially if it snows because they just do not clean up the streets well. And like some buildings, it's spectacular. They salt them. It's great. And then you walk two feet and it's just a slab of ice. It's a sheet ice. One year I was in my snow boots. I will never forget this. And I went down like a full flight of subway steps. Just all the way down to the bottom. And I laid there for a good 10 seconds before I was like...

I'm going to have to get up. And people came around me. They were like, oh my God, are you over?

Are you all right? It's a whole scene. Oh, it was terrible. And now after talking about this, I had a giant bruise on my hip. Like it was, and like you're going, you're slipping down the steps. You're like, there's no stop. You're like, this is me now. I just have to like admit to it. You can't even get up and act like it was nonchalant. You just have to get up and be like, that was fucking horrendous and everybody saw it. And I called my boyfriend at the time, my now husband, and I was just like, I just, I literally said, you may have to come pick me up in this conversation. Like you may have to meet me

in the subway station right now and help me get home. So you're leaving New York at a good time. You know what I mean? Because this would be the week of the full falls. Why do you think it's going to get worse, the weather? Yeah, tonight. A lot of snow, which is not too bad. Are you headed back to London? Back to London, yeah. Like this has been like, I've been busy. I've been doing stuff and promoting the podcast, going to shows. But it has felt like,

holiday's the wrong word, but it's like I'm doing stuff that's fun. And then I'm going back, not that my job isn't fun, but I'm going back to London to go back to work, I feel. But I'll go and host my own show instead of just being a guest. Because being a guest is nice. I don't know if you girls feel that, because you're just like, I don't have to think about anything before. I'm just like, I just come. It's the best, right? When you have a guest in. You just chug, chug, chug, and you forget what you said and you leave. Yes. When I have a guest coming in, I'm like, okay, I need to know everything about them. I need to know how much they weigh when they're born.

It feels very like the pressure. Yeah, absolutely. No, that is that's so true. Rhea is a London super fan. I do love London. I've been three times in the past like year and a half. I hear this a lot from Americans. What is it you like about it? I personally think it's a better version of New York. Interesting. And I also feel like

you're in a different time period, if that makes sense. Like the taxis, the cars, like the little alleyways. I just love it. I don't know what, like, I always really, really wanted to go.

And when I went for the first time, I was like, well, I hope it lives up to my expectations. I've built it up in my head. And I was obsessed since the first time that I went back two more times. I just love it. Like the feeling I get there, I'm like, I just feel like a cooler version of myself. And then I come back here and I'm like, hmm.

I'm not as cool anymore and that's how probably London's feel when they come to New York but I feel like we ask well like you say sometimes I do look around London and I think we're so used to like you say visually and the architecture and stuff it's cool isn't it right very very cool I've never been on my I'm gonna make you come with me I know I know seriously you've got a podcast slot now yeah exactly what about the men what did you think are you I'm engaged I'm getting married in April so I didn't really take a take a look around

We just really, I mean, it's a very class, like we just judge off Love Island now, really. Like, hey, we like fly in the flag. I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing. I think that's a mixed fucking, I think a lot of English people would be horrified. Well, I feel like when we watch Love Island, we're always like, the girls are so cool and awesome. And then the guys were like, what's wrong with them? You know?

That's usually the take. But can I make a, this is a really hot take. And I even like, you know, producing shows, I shouldn't really say this, but I feel like she's looking at me again. He's like, we love this. I don't know. I always felt boys that want to be on reality TV. It's almost a bit of a red flag.

No, I... But I don't feel that way about girls. No, we say the same thing about... So here it's like The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we say the same thing about... What is it? We're always like, girls on this season of The Bachelor are so cool. And then when it goes to The Bachelorette, we're like...

Why are these guys doing this? Yeah, why are they even on the show? But then you meet a lot of the people on the shows and they're really cool and awesome and normal in real life. So you're like, huh, maybe the opportunity just came up to them and they were bored and they were like, why not? If you're like constantly signing up to do them, like it's all you, you know, some people have been on like

five seasons now and you're just like, all right, now we know. Now we know why you're coming back. And also that's true for girls as well though because I feel like if you want it so much and you don't care what show it is or at what cost, then it's always going to be an unauthentic representation, I think. For sure. So for those that don't know, you were on Love Island...

2017? Is that? BC or something. Yeah, yeah. Like another lifetime. So season three of the UK. Series three. Series three, yeah, of the UK original, yeah. Which was the first one that we watched. Oh, stop, really? That's so funny. To be fair, series three was the one in the UK that blew up. So series one and two were popular, but...

So they actually approached me for series two and I was all sort of like playing with the idea of going on. I went all the way through the process. I kind of had them fully believing I was going. I had... There was a guy that I was seeing that I was like, hmm...

I liked him we were like semi-serious and then I don't know I just got cold feet and I was like I don't know what that much about this show is that you know we said it cringe like I was like is it is it am I going to be embarrassed like which is so crazy to say now because it's such a huge show yeah because I didn't know that much about it I was like it just felt like a risk and I got cold feet so I pulled out and then series three came around and luckily the

like after my now husband Brad had like dicked me around and I was like I need to get out of here they offered me to go back again so yeah and then it turned out to be the series that kind of really put the brand like global so everything happens for a reason right it is crazy to see how much it changed from like your season to the later seasons like you guys were smoking cigarettes

cigarettes they were showing so much more like and then it kind of you know we don't really see that in the seasons now but it's still happening I think they just don't show it

Yeah, I mean, I get tagged in TikToks all the time. And I'm like, what show is that? Because one, someone's tagged me the other day and I'm sitting in the garden. I've got a hoodie on, underwear, not bikini, underwear thong. And I'm just smoking that. I'm going through like 20 cigarettes while I'm swearing. But it's like, it was so rough around the edges. We had no makeup on. It was amazing. Yeah. And I just think that...

I don't think that necessarily it's anything anyone did, but I think when something grows and the cast become aware of how many people are watching, could you get brand deals afterwards? Are you going to get Instagram followers? It automatically affects the way you hold yourself. And I don't think that's anyone's fault. It's just the natural progression of these shows. Because I think maybe, you know, we didn't think that that many people were watching, you know? For sure. But that's what made it.

- No, it's like that's sweet spot on all show. It happens with every show I think though, doesn't it? - Yeah, for sure. - Definitely. - But we were, yeah, we were unfiltered and just like unwashed it looks. We didn't have any of these sponsors with the products in the bathroom, but we were all fighting over like one shower gel. - Right, right. You mentioned that your now husband, you had dated him previously before going on Love Island. - Yeah. - How did you guys reconnect after everything?

So I, when I went in and because he'd been in contact with his ex-girlfriend and that's kind of what pushed me to take Love Island the second time. And I went in there and I was coupled up with Chris, so people know who watched it. And we were, we argued a lot, but in the villa we were okay when we got on. But it was very like, if we got on, it was amazing. And then the rest of the time it was, you know, I think we'd both describe it as like fairly toxic. It was like one end or the other.

And then I'd only been out like two days and I got a call of a blocked number on... I had got a new phone afterwards because my phone broke when I was in there. And I answered it and it was Brad. And he was like, hi. And I was like... I just went all like, you know, it's like your heart just... Because I just didn't expect to hear from him. I was like, I've been on this show, like publicly dating this new person. Like I was in this whirlwind Love Island, like vortex. And I just heard his voice. I knew straight away who it was. And he just...

He was awkward and he was like, oh, I just wanted to call and say hi. And we spoke for like a few minutes and that was it. And then I just thought that was really weird. And then I didn't hear anything from him for a couple of weeks. I was like, obviously dating Chris. And then we just had a couple of these like bump-ins. Like, you know, like we bumped into each other at a nightclub and then we got like... I just spoke to him. That's all I did in the smoking area. We got like papped and it went in the British press and that made a big thing. And then... So again, then I...

stayed away from him but then we just kept crossing paths and then as Chris and I's relationship like

imploded in an almighty shit storm like you then you know what it's like that girl thing isn't it it's like then suddenly the ex doesn't look that bad because the one you're with right now like sucks so much and you're like oh maybe it wasn't like you know like you're like familiar it's safe so then we started he started like worming his way back in he was like took opportunity of the fact that I was you know vulnerable

Well, you saw what else was out there and you thought, I'm meant to be with him. And I was like, God, it is dry out there. It is fucking dry. So now when you podcast together, so, you know, so wrong. It's right, Pod. You have a new episode coming with Brad. What is like the dynamic like of podcasting together? Because it's like you when you're talking to your husband, you're you're

you're not, you're so unfiltered and then you have to remember like, oh, we are putting this out for the world to listen to. It's, so Brad is like, you know, he plays football, soccer, as you guys call it and he's not someone that would ever go on a reality TV show. Like, it's not his natural comfort place

But the cute thing about him is like, and I know he does because otherwise he wouldn't do it. He enjoys doing it like with me. So when I have him on as a guest, and actually I think he got like a little bit of a buzz out of the fact that series two of the podcast is,

He was like one of the most popular episodes. It rated really highly. So I was like, I don't care if you liked it or not. Like this is, this is actually now a financial thing. You're coming back in. For the sake of our family, we're going to be doing more episodes. Exactly. So he came back on and like you say, we are really unfiltered. I'm more so unfiltered than him as he knows. And I almost don't have a line anymore of, you know, what's, what even is privacy? I don't even know. Like, yeah. And sometimes I think, oh God, our parents, I know our parents listen. Yeah.

But he's very relaxed. Like, it wouldn't work if he wasn't. Like, he's kind of, he wouldn't say half the shit that I say, but he's fine with me saying it, if that makes sense. Yep, right. Do you ever overthink after putting something out there? You're like, I don't want to put this out, but I feel like I have to for the views or whatever. You kind of just do it, forget about it. Um, do

Do you know what with the podcast? No. I think we did a reality TV show that aired in the UK and I think it went on like some Hulu's and things around the world and we covered our wedding. And I remember in the weeks up to the wedding, I was having a bit of a...

like an internal argument with myself. I was like, should I be like, cause we just had like full access and it was that thing. I was like, is this the right thing to do? Am I going to regret it? You know? And like, that's the, that's one of the very only times that I've kind of argued with myself a little bit.

But then I kind of was speaking to other brides and so many people that get married just feel like overstimulated and like they've had their absolute life sucked out of them anyway. I was like, "Fucking hell, I might as well." - Yeah. - I might as well make some money out of it. - You're gonna be posing for a bunch of pictures anyway. - Yeah, I'm gonna get rich. - Film a bunch anyway. - Yeah, you're gonna have the videographer and the photographer. - Exactly. - Especially you're being followed around by a camera either way. - It's basically a production. - Yes. - Yeah, yeah.

So that was the only time a little bit. But yeah, apart from that, I'm pretty comfortable with where I'm at with stuff. I think you girls will get it as well. It's harder than ever to be in this industry because no one really knows what they want. They want to be entertained. They want you to like kind of be unfiltered and tell your opinions and stuff. But then obviously, like God forbid, you don't have their opinion. They're going to let you fucking know. So you just have to like kind of batten down the hatches when that happens.

and ride the wave. Otherwise, I think then you shut down. You don't have any of your personality out there. And then what? - Right, no, that's so true. - It's hard. - There's sometimes like, if you say something that's a joke, and then you have to say,

like, I'm bad with this because I'll say what I think people will understand is that I'm joking and then people will be like, why did you say that? Or what did that mean? And I was like, oh, I was joking. So then I'll be, I'll say something and then I'll go, I'm just kidding. But then that ruins the joke having to say that you're kidding constantly. So it's like a battle, you know? I'm just like...

And I feel like, you know, people want to be offended for some reason. And this, like the last couple of years, it's something that I think people actively look at things and kind of go, how can I be offended by this? Rather than just like you say, taking it for what it is. Entertainment, yeah. You know, there are some things that aren't funny and that we, I'm glad that we've stopped joking about them. But there has to be a line, doesn't it? Life is so shit at times. If we can't take the piss out of it, what have we actually got?

For sure. Especially as you girls, like being from New York and like from London, you say humor is like, is honestly medicine. Like that's very much my friendship group is dark humor. Like when I'm in my darkest depths, I want my friends to like take the mick out of me. That's how I, it brings me back. Right. Humor is a way that a lot of people cope

with things. I think we can both relate to that too. It's like, well, even when you're having a bad day, right? You're just like, well, I'm just going to make a joke out of this because I'm going to throw my hands up in the air and there's nothing else I can do at this point. Exactly. For sure. We do that all the time. Yeah. And you have to. So now that you've kind of, you've been in the world, but now you've done so much in the production side, business side, behind the scenes, hosting, what's

Where did the love for jumping into this reality TV, kind of like docu-series life, come from?

Just such a hard question, you know. I feel, because it happened really organically and everyone always asked me, like, was that the plan? Like, did you have a plan? I was like, I didn't even have, like, underwear for the seven days of the week when I left Love Island. Like, there was no plan. And I think we went really quickly into filming a spin-off reality show, which didn't, obviously was hard because the relationship between Chris and I didn't work. But what I realised really quickly was that I liked...

be making telly like it felt really comfortable for me I felt like I liked working with the producers I liked working via TV so that I knew and I kind of felt like I was it's a weird thing to say you're good at it but I knew that it's something I could do as a job it didn't feel like some people come off reality shows and they're like I never you're never going to catch me on a TV set again set yeah like a set and I was like

I didn't feel that way. I felt the opposite. So then basically the jobs just started kind of coming in and I started to sort of like learning the craft and sort of taking the opportunities I could. And I was like, then I wanted to kind of move into hosting space. So I was like, where can I get experience? Where can I kind of, because I think you should pay your dues. And I think that,

the reason it's worked the way it has, I hope, up until this point quite well is I've never been given anything that I feel like I wasn't ready for. Like, I think if they'd given me the docu-series, like, you know, the first couple of months at Love Island, I'd have been like, oh my God, yes. But it would have...

sucked. Like I would have screwed it up so badly and no one would have watched it. So I feel like everything's happened when it's meant to happen. You know, even though sometimes it's felt like, you know, you want that thing now, but actually it's coming in the right time. Yeah. I love seeing because I cannot wait for when things get released and

in the US. I know. We're on a little bit of a delay. Normally with regular Love Island, like, it's only on a couple days delay. Love Island All Stars right now. But I, I'm, I have a VPN. I go on, like, I go on ITV.com. I watch nothing. And when I see... I get the emails for ITV. Yeah, exactly. I'm there. When I open the homepage on my computer, I always see you. There's always, you know, there's always...

a show so season three yes right of getting filthy rich what can you tell us about the cast of characters you've got on this season so yes it's out now and I have to say the reaction's been insane like I it always surprises me because even though I should I guess on some level know that people like the show and that's why we're making more it is a kind of

it's an out there like concept like we you know it's really explicit and I think that people can sometimes receive that content one or two ways but I think the way that we make the show the tone of it the fact that you're going to get to find out the things you want to find out like what these people earn what are they doing on OnlyFans how does OnlyFans work but also we have fun with it and we're empowering the girls that are part of the show this is not a documentary where we're trying to shame anyone or kind of

you know, any judgment. I'm literally just like genuinely curious and they're great. This series is wild. We have, I mean, the most popular I think so far has been like the Gilfs. So I mean, the granny's,

who do the OnlyFans. And they love life. That is super interesting. And like you said, it's just interesting in general, just like the field of sex work. I know. Just finding out, like you said, how much they earn, what goes into it. There's so much more than we think. What is sort of the craziest thing you have found out while doing this series?

It's kind of a general answer, but I guess it's just the scale. It's the fact if you think about things like OnlyFans, you think about the money being earned and like say that the big creators, the amount of messages they're receiving a day and requests. Like if you just, I would love to do a documentary and kind of spin it on the other way, although we found it so hard to get in touch with people that

buy right now right but it's just the sheer volume of the men in our society that are buying this content like it is someone's dad brother colleague like you know everyone they no one's really admitting to it but the numbers show that yeah it's yeah the scales well of course they wouldn't money's coming from somewhere right yeah exactly so much yeah brad's like if you ask me one more time if i buy only fans i'm just gonna freak every time i come home from filming and i'm just like eating dinner i'm like

So... Just tell me. Have you ever found grandmothers attractive? He's like, Liv, I don't want to do this again. I'm like, but a hundred dudes in this day. And then he's like, okay, I'm not one of the hundred, but my mind is like, but you must be. You're like, these numbers are not adding up. Yeah, yeah.

- It's a calculation. - Statistically, one of you must be doing this. - And I feel like it's not going anywhere and I feel like we need to be educated because I feel like this is the change of the sex industry and it's here to stay whether we like it or not and I think the best thing we can do for our daughters and our sons and whatever is understand it because also the thing that I don't like is that a lot of the tones of the stuff that people

want that men want from sex workers online are really problematic and I don't think we should hide from that either you know why do so many men feel this way about women at the moment like this is a really fucking scary the things that they're requesting yeah like you know and a lot of the girls will say to you like you know they have requests for you know a content that has a tone of whether it's

hurting women or controlling them, you know, then they're like, I'm not going to fulfill this kind of request, but it's common. It's all the time. And I think that's something that we, like as women, we should be. It's worrying, isn't it? That is super interesting. I mean, so much like psychology goes into that. I know. For sure. So many people should be like hopping off OnlyFans into therapy, but. Right. No,

Now, I want to ask more about the grannies that you said. Did you find that a lot of them were, you know, maybe they were married and time has passed and now they're kind of just like, all right, what am I to do with my life? What are some of the stories? So there's quite a mix. But yeah, there's one lady in particular and she was like a devout Christian for like her whole life. Like we had one husband, one sexual partner. Yeah.

And she literally started doing camming and content when she got into her 60s. And she was like, just wanted a change. She just wanted to feel free. Yeah, clearly she felt put in a box. She loves it. Like, she loves the job. Yeah, she's having a great time. And I got to watch that live show. It really is fascinating. Because you're just learning, like,

what they were doing before and how they just made it to this point. And clearly it brings her joy. She's like, she's not making the most money out of all the people I've met. But like you say, an element of freedom and a kind of a new life. She feels attracted and wanted. And yeah. Yeah. Did you take a look at her subscribers? Yeah. I, I,

not the actual, because a lot of people who have OnlyFans subscriber accounts, it's like they don't have their real name. Right, it's like fake profile. They put in like fake ages and stuff. So there's not a picture. So yeah, very rarely I get to actually see a customer. I did throughout other episodes. I saw on webcam and a couple in real life. It's really hard, as you can imagine, to interview the people that buy the content. They don't want to. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

They're not popping up on the show. They don't want people knowing they're subscribed to Granny. They're like, let me tell you exactly what I want to see. You're like, okay, maybe we don't really want to know that. Wife's at home and mum's watching. It's like, oh no, Johnny, why? Not our grandmother, our own grandmother. But now I look at people, like, obviously observing someone in a coffee shop or whatever, and I'll be thinking...

I bet you like some weird shit. It's compelling the way I see everyone, especially men. I'm like looking, I'm thinking, yeah, I bet you vibe about your fans on the weekend. Right, exactly. Like you can't be naive to anything anymore. No. Especially in this world now. It's just like... No, it's like, do you ever... I'm not sure if like...

I hope this isn't the case of one of you girls, but have you ever like, hear those girls who are like, "Oh, my boyfriend just thinks strip clubs are so dirty and porn is so horrible." It makes him laugh. Yeah, he's laughing into that sock. He thinks that. Okay, I'm not gonna ruin it for you. He watches it for the story. The plot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The acting.

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Thoughts or maybe like a favorite couple. I'm sure you're you might be a little behind. I'm a bit behind Yeah, I didn't have the set up that you guys I can't actually get to watch my own shows. Um, I

What do I know? So Ronnie, if you're watching it, as you guys might know, he was Brad's best man at our wedding. I've known him for like 10 years. I love him so much. He's been naughty with girls. He can be a player, but he's a genuinely good guy.

So I love him. I'm making this sound. And I hope that him and Harriet work. Yeah, that's what I'll say on that. I think that he is obviously completely besotted with her. I just hope that she's sure. Because I think right now she's giving unsure. And because I can see that he's gone into like, he's like lover boy central now. I want her to be sure. Because I don't want his little heart to get broken.

I agree. I mean, yeah, he is. He feels like totally obsessed with her. Brad rang me. Brad texted me this morning, like UK. I was here in New York and he was like, what are we going to do? He's like, I'm actually worried about my mate. He's like literally following her around this bit. Like he's lost every, like, yeah. They showed the clip of the...

the heart rate challenge where he's just like literally like prancing like a dog. Which is so funny. He is hysterical. He is so funny. This like one of the last couple episodes they did one of those games of you know who which couple do you think is this? And it was like who do you think wears the pant? Which couple wears and everyone was like oh.

- I know. - She was like so pleased with that. - And the others, I like Gabby, she was on my series. I keep trying to go season. Season series, we say season. - And then I almost switched to series for you. - I know, I like series better. - And she's actually the nicest girl, such a nice girl. And I was unsure on Kasey in the beginning. I have to say that when I was first, I was like,

He's grown on me. If nothing other than he's a good Islander. He totally is. And on the show, I've always been like, oh, like he's not on the show for whatever. He's having fun.

but because he's been in three times yeah this is his third time but this like his it was when I would really watch more of his social media stuff his TikToks I was like oh he's funny yeah he is he's funny and rarely do I watch the unseen bits like a lot of times I skip over that episode but this one I've been watching because between him like him Ronnie the girl like they're really funny they are they are there's some really funny moments do you find that there's like more people that

All Stars is different because, of course, probably people have met in passing and whatnot. But, like, going on a season that they know each other more in real life. Because it's, like, Luca and Harriet.

They grew up together. And I'm like, this is so crazy. They're just kind of saying it and they've been on the show for weeks. I'm like, how does this not immediately get set? Yeah, I'm with you on that. I think there is more cast connections as the series have gone on. I don't know why, though. From our series, my series, it was like none of us had ever even heard of each other, ever. I think that maybe they are casting more from...

that they might go casting in like a popular club in like Manchester or Essex and then they might like grab and then it's just like accidentally you get people whose friendship groups cross over and then I think it doesn't hurt when people have a little bit of facts because then it can kind of add to it. Yeah, maybe casting directors also see they're like, oh, this person hangs out with this guy all the time. He looks like he'd be great for the show. Yeah. And even now, like with All Stars because they were on past seasons, they're all like DMing each other prior. I mean, we saw that with Luca and...

Sammy. Oh, I felt bad. Sammy got the short end of the stick. Yeah. She came in at a tough time. When you come in late like that, I feel like it's so hard. And she was out there for a long time waiting. Yeah. And I think that's really tough when you're in the country, you're waiting to kind of be called up. And then you say the chance of trying to break someone off at this stage is really... What do you think about... There's been a few people who have seemed to have flown to South Africa and

not go on. I heard about one girl. I don't know if that's true or not. I genuinely don't know if that's true. If it is, I think the story I heard was, what, I forget her name now. I think it was Lucinda. Yes. That she just was there for too long and then she decided that, and I kind of respect that. I do too. If I was like waiting in the hotel room and be like, all right, they've been filming for weeks now. I don't know.

I'm going home right then you come in too late at a point yeah my friends who work in production would be like cursing thinking shut up right now Liv but yeah from a production side it's a nightmare but from a personal point yeah I mean you know what it's a

bit like going in that hard let's go hard going in that late is hard and it can be quite yeah soul destroying I think like you know you're on your own everyone's like doesn't want you here like yeah I get it right they build those connections up I mean with Sammy and Luca and Grace it was like people were already rooting so heavily for Luca and Grace so when you have people who are fans of that couple and a new person comes in whether they're the most amazing girl sweetest whatever

people just automatically are going to put that person down, hype the other one up, or they're going to prop her up and put Grace down. Then these two women are pitted against each other. And like, that's sort of what I see happening right now online is that they've been pitted against each other. And then people are making Sammy look like she's insane for mentioning the birthday DM. It's like, obviously she would, she'll be keep being asked about that. But now it just looks like she just calls. Right.

She's actually only said it like twice, but then everyone's, oh, here she is again talking about this DM. And I'm like, but obviously that's her connection to him. So she's going to be awesome. You almost can't blame. I mean, you can't blame her for bringing up the DM. Like if you're going in and you're like, well, he was clearly interested in me. He DM'd me. And you kind of have to say it because he was so close with Grace where it's like, you need to give some background or else she's just going to come off like kind of bitchy. She's just gunning for Luka. And,

And if they don't say it and somehow people find out after the fact, the fans get so mad afterwards. They're like, we didn't know about the DMs. Like that happened on a Bachelor in Paradise season where a couple was DMing prior and then people found out and they got all mad. I mean, I like destroyed the season. And they tried to hide it. And like, literally, it was like they went home miserable in the cab.

committed a heinous crime it was like we cannot believe they DM'd before they got here and people were so upset so I was like thank god she said something because if you don't then people get extra upset if they don't reality show fandom is like that should be a documentary I know it should be that should be your next project the way that people flip out yeah

And we just had it with this last, the last US Love Island season, like took off. Oh my God. Oh yeah, I saw that. Like how series three did for you guys. Like it just. And with the fans like hating her, loving her. It was unlike anything I've ever seen before. And you need to do a documentary on this because you need to go to their homes and see what's going on. Like the commenters, like are they doing it 24 seven? Like do they have,

extra phones and laptops going on like what is going on at home? It's like you know they'll have their profile picture like my grandkids in my life and then they're messaging some like young girl being like you're a whore. But you just think their families have no idea. Are there like 12 year old girls? And I'm like your mom doesn't know

You shouldn't be on the internet. You should not be on social media. I'm like, this girl's in middle school. She's sending me Instagram DMs that she doesn't agree with my love of island opinions. And you're like, you should be in bed. This is not your problem.

it was we went on a after sun in fiji for love island us and the harmless jokes were said we got off of there we were in fiji and our dms comments whatever were flooded with just like 12 year old girls telling us that we were ugly and like the worst evil ever and at one point we were laughing then we were like wait this is getting a little scary like we're

They're going to come find us. They were like, your podcast should end. It was like, your podcast is done with. They were like, we're going to get you guys fired for saying that you think she might like one of the girls that maybe likes one of the other guys. I remember that. I was like, who's their boss that they need to be fired?

No, it was really out of this world. It is fascinating and it should be. We could talk about this for hours. That's the next documentary. I know. I do want to finish up and ask you. This is kind of our Armani Beauty. We have a little gift for you as well. Armani Beauty question. It is kind of like confession based, but we can do. I'm curious about this and I guess it could be kind of a confession, but

We in the US like see the UK tabloids and everything that's happened and it always feels so much more intense and crazy. Is that how you guys feel about it at home or is it like you see TMZ and you're like, that's crazy too? Well, you think our press is like more savage? Yeah. Really? That's interesting. Is it just how you feel? I do sometimes. I guess. With the react, like with...

I guess I'm not sure because ours is crazy too. Yeah. You know, a lot of ours and social media crosses both sides for sure. But like,

I don't know if it's more like royal family or whatever. Even I like, I think that might be it. But even like with like Molly, Tommy. Yeah. I would just do a Google search of her name sometimes and just see the headlines. Yeah. That will come up. And I'm like, this is, they don't get it like this. I guess because we're a smaller country as well. So it's like maybe there's less to choose from. How have you felt dealing with it? Because I'm sure your, you know, your public life has been. It's a funny one. I think you like,

You definitely, you go into these, you go into a show like Love Biden, now it's different because I think they give them some, you know, they give them, try and give them some advice, but with no media training. I don't know how to work with the press. I don't know how, what, like, do you, do you know if someone is mean to your journalist, do you like tweet them and go, shut the fuck up? Like, I would learn really quickly, don't do that.

you kind of was learning on the job you know so you realise that if you want to kind of have a career in the industry you have to the press is something that is like a non-negotiable and they when you have a good relationship with press that you know you need press to do your shows and your podcasts and everything so it's like a double edged sword isn't it and then with that

sometimes there's going to be some stuff that you don't love or sometimes there's going to be some stuff that's not 100% factual. For me, the way I handle it, and I cannot speak for everyone because I know some people have very different opinions on this, I don't have Daily Mail or Sun, anything on my phone.

I don't do Google ads, searches ever. I have like a team. So like if anything was awful, like they'd bring it to my attention. And I just try to think, unless it was a story where it was actually affecting my, like my character and it was actually something, I was being accused of something serious. I tried to think of the,

it's not that deep. And that's the only way that I think you can actually survive. And I think if you don't, you see people that go insane. And I think like reality TV, fashion, showbiz report, it's not that deep. Like it's really not. Like in the grand scheme of life, it's, you know, am I going to worry about that in a year? But I think that some people get so pissed

bent out of shape over, "I didn't say that," or, "I wasn't wearing red shoes, I was wearing blue shoes." And it's like, well, actually, you're gonna make yourself ill and crazy if you, that's, you know, I think you just have to kind of realize that you wanna be in this game, it's part of the deal, which I know some people don't wanna hear, but it is. You also can't decide when it suits you. You can't be like, "I really want press, "and I really want magazine interviews "to promote my podcast and my show."

But don't talk about, you know, the fact that I went out with setting powder on to the club and looked like, you know, I was in a snowstorm. Like, they have, that's the deal. So you kind of have to...

Yeah. Just don't get too deep in it unless it's something that's not fair. And then you have a right to advocate for yourself. I feel like that's really fair and a kind of a great way to think about it where you're like, it's not that serious that like in a year from now, will I even be thinking about that this happened? Next week, will I even be thinking about it? You know, there'll be like you're feuding with someone or you're dating someone. And I'm just like, oh, yeah.

- Okay, I love it, I find it funny. - Right, yeah. - That's a great attitude I have about it. - I think you kind of have to. We have to wrap up. We could literally talk for hours, truly, like so much, but please tell everyone all the shows you've got going on. I mean, it's a long list. - Busy, busy, busy. Okay, so my podcast, So Wrong It's Right, is available on Apple, YouTube, Spotify, all those places.

And then all of my shows, Let's Just Do That, are available on ITVX and some Hey Yous and Hulus, like Australia, I think, have it. I don't know why they've, like, favoured. We need to get it pushed onto the US one. I think I've...

scenes I'm on Hulu for sure. Okay. Yeah. But yeah, but ITVX with a VPN, you can watch everything. I was going to say, just get a VPN like we have. Yeah. And then you can keep up with everything. That's where I am. For sure. I get, I get, girls get mad at me so much because I like post on my stories and I'm like, they're like, how are you watching? We need, how are you watching? We need every step of how you got this VPN. We go through it every year. I'm like, just join in this life. Like, I, I, I want to, yeah.

I need to be watching exactly when it's happening. You should do a sponsor with VPN. You're giving them so much free. I get emails every month about my ITV subscription. ITV pay up. It's time. Just make up a postal code. Just make an account. Honestly, sponsor us. Thank you so much, Olivia. It's been such fun. Thank you.

All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We love you guys so very much. And we'll talk to you on Friday. Smooches for Valentine's Day.