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Southeast Asia and the Belt and Road Initiative

2025/1/15
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Ngeow Chow Bing: 我认为中国在东南亚的“一带一路”倡议中取得了显著进展，并在大多数东盟国家获得了许多重要项目。例如，中老铁路正在建设中，印度尼西亚也有项目，柬埔寨正在修建运河，马来西亚的东海岸铁路连接线正在建设中，将于2026年底完工。虽然中国在菲律宾和缅甸遇到了一些挫折，但总体而言，“一带一路”对该地区产生了重要影响，跨境项目加强了邻国之间的连通性，但也可能对某些国家更有利。我们必须认识到，这些项目将在未来几十年内持续存在，其长期影响尚不明确。 Muhammad Habib: 我认为中国的“一带一路”倡议是区域发展的积极力量，尤其是在印度尼西亚。它为我们提供了替代方案，不再只依赖于日本等单一力量。中国说到做到，通过“一带一路”，东南亚已成为该倡议的最大受益者。例如，印度尼西亚的中游产业和关键矿产加工从中受益，印度尼西亚人也享受到了高速火车技术。然而，中国经济放缓可能会影响其在南海等区域热点地区的行为，我们需要关注其潜在影响。

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The BRI has had a significant impact on Southeast Asia, with several successful infrastructure projects in various countries. However, there are also challenges and controversies surrounding some projects. The impact on regional relations is mixed, depending on the nature of the projects.
  • BRI projects in several ASEAN countries, including the China-Laos railway and the canal in Cambodia.
  • Indonesia sees BRI as a positive force for regional development, offering alternatives to traditional infrastructure partners like Japan.
  • Concerns exist about the impact of BRI on regional intra-relations due to some projects benefiting one country more than others.

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What role has China's Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) played in Southeast Asia so far? In this episode, Dr. Ian Chong holds an in-depth dialogue with Dr. Ngeow Chow Bing, another nonresident scholar at Carnegie China; and Muhammad Habib, a researcher at the Department of International Relations, Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) Indonesia. The three scholars discuss how the BRI has affected perceptions of China in Southeast Asia and the China-Southeast Asia relations.

Dr. Ian Chong is a nonresident scholar at Carnegie China, where he examines U.S.-China dynamics in Southeast Asia and the broader Asia-Pacific. He is also an associate professor of political science at the National University of Singapore.

Dr. Ngeow Chow Bing is a nonresident scholar at Carnegie China. He focuses on China's relations with Southeast Asian countries.

Muhammad Habib is a researcher at the Department of International Relations, Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) Indonesia. His main research areas include international political economy, Indonesia-U.S. bilateral relations, and Indonesia-China bilateral relations.