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TikTok Will Be BANNED Again

2025/2/19
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我认为TikTok重新上架应用商店只是短暂的,因为它仍然会追踪用户数据,而且特朗普的延迟禁令的命令最多只能持续90天。法律规定TikTok必须出售或被禁,但TikTok并没有表现出真诚出售的意愿。我不明白特朗普想做什么,但我觉得在法律上,TikTok撑不过四月底。 我认为很多人不清楚 TikTok 是中共设计的武器,Temu 也是。美国纳税人在补贴中国公司向美国运输商品的成本,导致从上海运到旧金山比从洛杉矶运到旧金山更便宜,这太离谱了。

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The podcast discusses the reinstatement of TikTok on Apple and Google app stores following a temporary ban. The hosts express skepticism about the app's long-term future, citing concerns about data tracking and impending legal requirements for sale or ban.
  • TikTok reinstated on Apple and Google app stores.
  • Concerns remain about data tracking.
  • Legal requirement for TikTok to be sold or banned within 90 days.

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Yeah, so there's a bunch going on. As we recorded this today, it just was announced that TikTok is back on the App Store, the Google Store. What do they call it? The Apple app. Google Play.

You mean, I thought it was just Apple. I thought Google had put it back already. There's the, well, I just checked on my iPhone, the App Store and TikTok is indeed available for download. According to my truth social notifications. Yes, I got that. Apple and Google App Stores reinstate TikTok.

Now, I do suggest that if you're watching this, don't download it because it will still track all of your data forever. It's still TikTok. It's the same thing. It's still awful, absolutely awful. I can't imagine anyone deciding to download TikTok for the first time now. Maybe they had such a good time with Red Note that they decided to, you know, that they really missed out on the TikTok. But I don't see how TikTok's going to be around for more than a few months. I don't know. Why do you say that?

Because I think Trump's order to delay the banning of TikTok is – it's only – there's a maximum of – what is it, 75 days or 90 days or something? I think it's 90 days. So he can't legally delay it beyond then because there's a law already that TikTok has to either be sold or it needs to be banned. And –

It only gives the president like that 90-day margin. He already kind of bent it though because like to give that 90-day margin, TikTok was supposed to be showing in good faith that they're trying to sell to somebody. And they are not. Right. So he's already kind of been a little. Yeah. I mean, okay. So, well, this whole thing, it doesn't make any sense. I don't know what Trump is trying to do here.

- That's very common sentiment, I feel. - Yes. I'm so confused. But at any rate, like, I don't see how legally TikTok can be around

past the like the end of April like there's no way right So what you're saying is buy red note stocks now Actually, I'm wondering how many people are still actually using Xiao Hongshu. You know what I mean? Yeah, I feel like that was probably very short-lived as soon as like they realized

Well, one, like, yeah, people who got on there realized it wasn't this bastion of free speech or whatever they were thinking it was. And then from the other side, China hired a bunch of English censors to basically drive a wall between the Westerners and the Chinese people because they don't actually like Chinese people mixing with outsiders. Right, unless those people are trained to, you know—

do that sort of work. Which you watching know from the People to People episode, premium episode, that I now forget if it's out or I have just recorded it. No, it's not out, but it will be one of our premium episodes on our website, ChinaUncensored.tv. Which should be coming out this week, yes.

So now you're talking about something that's in the future for the people watching. I can process this because I'm enjoying it. You like fluoride water? You like it? I'm actually drinking coffee from this mug. What's coffee made out of? Manna from heaven. On a deeper level. So what you're saying is that the Israelites were just like,

really jittery for Forty years you would have thought they would have gotten out of the desert faster if they had had caffeine like caffeine Yeah

So at any rate, we're talking about Trump and the brief unbanning of TikTok, but that's not going to last. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting some of his moves on China. The tariffs are, you know, in effect, we kind of brought up Xi'an a little earlier and the... And Timu. And Timu. So the restrictions on de minimis...

I mean, that's a huge loophole that thankfully was closed. I also found out that apparently some of these Chinese import-export companies have been faking shipping labels. Oh, yeah? Like there's this whole fraud thing where they're working with some – they're paying companies in the U.S. to like create fake shipping labels for them.

So that it doesn't look like so they can essentially ship for almost free This is not anything to do with the de minimis loophole. It's just like another way in which they were trying to evade like import-export controls and having to pay More for shipping. Yeah, because I think it's unclear to a lot of people that tick-tock is a weapon designed by the Chinese Communist Party So is she in and Timu right? I mean what the the the

Can you explain, Shelley, the de minimis thing? Essentially, it was a loophole so that if you were importing less than $800 worth of goods from a country, and it was to a person, not to a company, then you wouldn't have to pay

the customs fees on it. And then that also meant that essentially customs was not inspecting these packages. So as long as you were able to label that this is just like, oh, this is just like a pair of $5 shoes from Timu or whatever, then you didn't have to pay all of these extra customs duties on it, plus the...

then it was so unregulated that that $5 pair of shoes might have actually just been a packet of fentanyl precursors. They wouldn't know. Or in a pair of shoes. Yeah. Or just shoes made out of solid fentanyl. It's like that Cheech and Chong movie where the whole van is made out of marijuana up in smoke. I never saw that. That sounds funny. It was probably very, very funny in the 1970s when it came out. Yeah.

At any rate, so the other thing that's a horrible loophole is that U.S. taxpayers are subsidizing the cost of these giant Chinese companies to ship items to the United States. So they basically are shipping at such a low rate that it's a loss, but-

uh the us government is essentially paying with taxpayer money for that shipping and i never really understood the logic of why they get rates that are lower than domestic shipping but they do um do you want to give the the the great example we've used about how screwy it is with the shipping oh yeah that it's cheaper to ship from shanghai to san francisco than from los angeles to san francisco yeah it's insane

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