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Jon Cryer | Club Random with Bill Maher

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Bill Maher: 本集讨论的核心是2024年美国大选,Maher认为民主党在移民问题上的处理不当导致了选举失利。他批评民主党对边境问题的处理过于宽松,放任大量移民涌入,自由派媒体未能如实报道边境状况。他还认为,对不宽容行为的容忍是政治正确走向脱轨的原因,导致民主党在选举中失利。Maher认为,通货膨胀、骚乱以及对少数族裔群体的负面态度是导致民主党失利的原因。他认为,左翼的某些立场让右翼认为必须不惜一切代价保住权力,因为左翼上台会摧毁现有的生活方式。Maher还批评了民主党在处理跨性别问题上的立场,认为部分跨性别现象是社会传染的结果,许多人参与社会正义运动是为了满足自身需求,而非真正关心相关议题。Maher认为,美国对跨性别政策的处理方式与其他国家不同,许多人担心年轻人会做出终身性的医疗决定。他认为,政府不应限制对跨性别儿童的医疗干预,但部分跨性别现象是社会传染的结果。Maher还批评了左翼的某些立场,认为左翼会将对跨性别议题的任何质疑都视为偏见。Maher认为,共和党50年来一直试图削弱美国联邦政府,并认为民主党在处理移民问题上向右倾斜。Maher还谈到了自己对特朗普的看法,认为特朗普的成功在于他语无伦次且前后矛盾,以及他拥有的品牌效应。Maher还谈到了自己对朱利安尼的看法,认为朱利安尼曾是纽约市的一位好市长,但他现在已经声名狼藉。Maher还谈到了自己对Charlie Sheen的看法,认为Charlie Sheen的吸毒复发导致了《好汉两个半》的创作冲突,并导致了节目的停播。Maher还谈到了自己对Elon Musk的看法,认为Elon Musk的成就值得肯定,但他的一些言行也存在争议。 Jon Cryer: Cryer对Maher关于民主党在移民问题上的批评表示不同意,认为通货膨胀是民主党选举失利的主要原因。Cryer不赞成妖魔化移民,并认为大规模驱逐的歷史令人震惊。Cryer还认为,关于移民的论点常常被误导,并对移民的刻板印象进行了反驳。Cryer认为,民主党改变了政治庇护的定义,导致移民数量增加,但他认为美国是一个移民国家,移民应该是有序的。Cryer认为,卡斯报告的结论与其数据不符,并且在跨性别问题上,双方都应该避免采取极端立场。Cryer认为,政府不应限制对跨性别儿童的医疗干预,但他认为部分跨性别现象是社会传染的结果。Cryer还认为,将跨性别问题妖魔化是不对的,一些法案试图强迫跨性别女性使用男厕所,强迫跨性别男性使用女厕所。Cryer认为,美国对跨性别政策的处理方式与其他国家不同,许多人担心年轻人会做出终身性的医疗决定。Cryer还认为,左翼会将对跨性别议题的任何质疑都视为偏见,但他认为,对跨性别者的质疑并非一定就是偏见。Cryer还谈到了自己对Charlie Sheen的看法,认为Charlie Sheen的吸毒复发导致了《好汉两个半》的创作冲突,并导致了节目的停播。Cryer还谈到了自己对政治的看法,认为政治立场与人的性格有关,并认为民主党不再被视为工人阶级政党,这部分原因是右翼媒体的宣传。Cryer还谈到了自己对“破窗理论”的看法,认为该理论导致了不好的结果,例如种族主义的“拦截搜身”政策。Cryer还谈到了自己对未婚未育的看法,认为对未婚未育的人存在社会偏见是不公平的。Cryer还谈到了自己对社交媒体的看法,认为社交媒体对婚姻关系造成负面影响。

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What was Jon Cryer's experience working with Charlie Sheen on 'Two and a Half Men'?

Jon Cryer had a positive experience working with Charlie Sheen initially, describing him as charming, professional, and great to work with. However, after Sheen's relapse and personal issues, including arrests and erratic behavior, their relationship deteriorated. Sheen eventually left the show, and Cryer chose not to reboot the series with him later.

What led to the breakdown of Charlie Sheen's relationship with Chuck Lorre?

Charlie Sheen's relapse into substance abuse led to tensions with Chuck Lorre, who confronted Sheen about needing help. Sheen refused, and the situation escalated, leading to Sheen's public outbursts, including the infamous 'tiger blood' comments, and ultimately his firing from 'Two and a Half Men.'

What is Jon Cryer's podcast 'The Man Who Calculated Death' about?

The podcast explores the story of Robert Lesser, a Nazi scientist who worked on Hitler's V1 rocket and later was brought to the U.S. under Operation Paperclip to contribute to the American space program. It delves into Lesser's complicity in war crimes and the moral dilemmas of using former Nazis for scientific advancement.

What is the moral dilemma discussed in 'The Man Who Calculated Death'?

The podcast examines the ethical conflict between pragmatism and purism in using former Nazis like Robert Lesser for the U.S. space program. While pragmatists argue it was necessary to advance American interests, purists question the morality of employing individuals complicit in war crimes.

Why does Jon Cryer believe the Democrats lost the election?

Jon Cryer attributes the Democrats' loss to what he calls 'stupid wokeness,' which alienated voters. He argues that the party's focus on progressive issues, like trans rights, overshadowed core concerns like inflation and immigration, leading to a disconnect with the electorate.

What is Bill Maher's view on the immigration debate in the U.S.?

Bill Maher criticizes the Democrats for what he sees as a lack of control over immigration, arguing that the party 'punted' on the issue for years. He believes that the influx of migrants, particularly under relaxed asylum policies, became a significant voter concern, contributing to the Democrats' electoral losses.

What is the controversy around youth gender-affirming care discussed in the podcast?

Bill Maher and Jon Cryer debate the rise in youth gender-affirming care, with Maher suggesting it has become a 'social contagion' influenced by trends like TikTok. Cryer disagrees, emphasizing that parents of children with severe gender dysphoria need access to appropriate medical care without government interference.

What is Jon Cryer's stance on the trans rights movement?

Jon Cryer supports trans rights and believes in respecting and protecting trans individuals. However, he criticizes what he sees as excessive focus on the issue by some activists, arguing that it detracts from more pressing societal problems.

What is the significance of Operation Paperclip mentioned in the podcast?

Operation Paperclip was a U.S. program to bring Nazi scientists, including Robert Lesser, to America after World War II to contribute to the space program and other scientific advancements. The podcast explores the moral implications of using individuals with ties to war crimes for national benefit.

What is Jon Cryer's view on marriage and societal expectations?

Jon Cryer acknowledges societal stigmas around not getting married or having children but believes it's a personal choice. He argues that not being married doesn't mean someone lacks empathy or understanding of the human experience and that people should recognize their own needs and preferences.

Chapters
This chapter covers Jon Cryer's upbringing in a rough part of the Upper West Side in the 1970s-80s NYC, his acting career, and his experience working with Charlie Sheen on Two and a Half Men. It also touches upon his podcast production and reflects on his long career in Hollywood.
  • Jon Cryer's childhood experiences in a challenging NYC neighborhood
  • His acting career journey
  • Working with Charlie Sheen on Two and a Half Men
  • Production of his podcast, The Man Who Calculated Death

Shownotes Transcript

Bill Maher and Two and a Half Men star Jon Cryer on border policies and media coverage, on how progressive issues influence elections, youth gender-affirming care, and social media “contagion” vs. authentic identity, how Jon grew up in a rough part of the Upper West Side, crime stories and colorful neighbors in 1970s–80s NYC, Jon’s acting journey, the podcast Jon produced, The Man Who Calculated Death, Jon’s on set experience with Charlie Sheen and how the show changed when Charlie relapsed, Elon Musk’s contributions to electric vehicles and space exploration vs. controversies regarding Twitter/X and political stances and much more!

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