This episode examines what DeepSeek’s AI model tells us about China’s AI ecosystem, military applications for this technology, and other developments in China’s high-tech sector. Guest Biographies April Herlevi) is a senior research scientist in CNA’s China and Indo-Pacific Security Affairs Division. Christopher Cairns is a research scientist in CNA’s China and Indo-Pacific Security Affairs Division. Further Reading Intersections: Issue 13 ) To subscribe to Intersections, email [email protected].