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What's happening right now on CNN This Morning. I am signing a new executive order placing travel restrictions on countries.
Trump travel ban take two: which countries are on the president's list this time around and which are not? Plus, the GOP's push for major changes to Medicaid starting with work requirements. Will the red tape cause more people to lose coverage? Then, newly released documents take us inside the mind of Luigi Mangione months before the killing of UnitedHealthcare's CEO. What his journal entries reveal.
And the new rules proposed for artificial intelligence, would they spark innovation or protect big tech?
It's 6 a.m. here on the East Coast. A beautiful look at New York City. Good morning, New York. Good morning to you. I'm Adi Cornish, and I want to thank you for waking up with me. So here's where we're going to start. That travel ban, 2.0. The president signed a new proclamation last night banning travel from 12 countries, and it also put partial restrictions on seven others.
The list is subject to revision based on whether material improvements are made. And likewise, new countries can be added as threats emerge around the world. But we will not allow people to enter our country who wish to do us harm.
The ban takes effect on Monday. It will fully restrict the entry of nationals from Afghanistan, Myanmar, Chad, Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea and Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen. Seven other countries will have partial bans, including Venezuela and Cuba. So according to the White House, the president was considering the ban before the anti-Semitic attacks in Boulder last weekend, but that incident continued.
accelerated the process. Joining me now in the group chat, Phil Mattingly, CNN anchor and chief domestic correspondent, Michael Warren, senior editor at The Dispatch, and Sabrina Singh, former deputy Pentagon press secretary. All right, first I wanna start with you, Phil, 'cause I feel like you have had such a good beat on how the White House has been thinking this time around.
This seems like something that Stephen Miller at all will make sure is more airtight legally than the first time around. I think that's been demonstrated by the process they went through to reach to this point, the State Department decision or review that was done in advance, the efforts that were made to try and establish the legal underpinning before they actually made this move. I think it's really important to understand. We all think back on the travel ban in the first term. Yeah.
It was like one of their first things out of the gate. It was a mess. It was a disaster. And Sean Spicer was trying to explain it and that the airports were a complete chaotic disaster as well. What people don't remember from the first term is they actually ended up getting a version of the travel ban implemented and signed off on by the courts, including the Supreme Court. And that underscored a process that I think has just been so formative to
everything they've done in these first four or five months, they learned. They learned and they understood, okay, we can't do it this way. The court said, that's a problem, we're going to fix that. Which is why we're probably, and then at the same time, that doesn't stop there from being legal problems, but it's a different approach. You guys, let me take it to this side. What are you thinking this time around with this list of countries, for example, or in approach?
Well, I mean, they're saying that this wasn't in response to the attack that happened in Boulder, but yet, you know, it comes just days after that attack in Boulder, and that individual was from Egypt, and Egypt is notably not on that list of countries that are... So you don't think this is sitting in a drawer somewhere? It feels like they've been waiting. I think they've been working and waiting on it, and I think, to Phil's point, they've been doing... They've really taken their time and been more precise. I think this is going to immediately come to the courts. There's going to be a challenge.
you know, let's see what happens, but it's going to play out in the legal system as well. So the American Immigration Council weighing in, saying these travel bans do nothing to make us safer or more prosperous. They harm our economy and indiscriminately punish immigrants who otherwise qualify to come. And I raise this because
some of these are war-torn areas. It's not exactly an influx of people coming here, especially given asylum laws. So what does this accomplish? I don't know because the justifications so far are kind of a little all over the place. This whole idea of a visa overstay problem,
clearly a real problem and we don't have to look to Boulder to see it. I mean, that's... But is it even from these countries? Exactly. This is my point. I think it is a solution that was waiting for an opportunity to be unleashed. That's, I think, what the Trump administration was looking to do with this. There are
Immigration requires a lot of resources for enforcement. It's really hard actually to find people who are here who have overstayed their visas or who are otherwise are here and should not be here. And I think the administration is finding themselves, you know, unable to do what they had
thought they might be able to do right in terms of that enforcement at a massive hiring uh effort basically to supplement looking to kind of deal these things out as ways of saying hey look we're doing something because the actual work of it is actually pretty hard well one thing it has been effective as is changing the world's sort of view of the U.S as a welcoming place but here's an example from a top Venezuelan official who says being in the U.S is quote
big risk for anyone, not just Venezuelans. If you're really that foolish, then go to the United States. They're supremacists who think they own the world and persecute our people for no reason. I actually, I think it's an important statement because that's a feature, not a bug for this administration. And I think the mistake people make when they look at individual policies is not understanding that this isn't happening in a vacuum. This is part of a significant kind of
of effort to try and invert a system. We're not trying to welcome people in. We're trying to make people prove why they should be here in terms of the U.S. government. And it's something that starts on, they know who's working at the consular level in these countries. And if they don't feel like they're allied with that version of how we do immigration, they want them out. And when you think, well, that's pretty granular, that's pretty ground level for the federal government, the West Wing, the White House to know about. No, no, they know about it.
and personnel from that level all the way to the West Wing is part of this consideration, as is every single thing they've been rolling out over the course of the last couple of months. I love that you said that. I want to underscore something you said. It's not just about keeping people out. It's making them prove why they should be here. And I think that's like a nuance sometimes people don't hear when they think about these bans. All right, group chat, stay with me. Got a lot to talk about this hour. Coming up on CNN this morning, in just a few hours, Germany's new chancellor is going to be at the White House.
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It's now 15 minutes past the hour and here is your morning roundup. New this morning, the bodies of two Israeli-American hostages have been recovered in Gaza. The husband and wife were killed near their home in southern Israel on October 7th. Their bodies were recovered in an Israeli military operation. The family said in a statement that they are grateful for the closure.
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Ahead on CNN this morning, President Trump ordering an investigation into the Biden White House, what he's accusing the former president's aides of doing. Plus, how should AI be regulated? Some lawmakers believe less is more. And good morning to Baltimore. That's where the Coast Guard is investigating an oil spill in the inner harbor there. We're waiting for an update on that as well.
I rise today to address the House about a clause that is in the one big beautiful bill. This clause would take away state rights to make laws or regulate AI for 10 years.
Sounds like there's some buyer's remorse there. Turns out Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene and other House Republicans are having a bit of that. I want to get into the substance, though, of what she is talking about. This is a provision in the bill. It would say that states could not pass their own laws regulating AI for a decade. Now, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene also posted on X that she would have voted no if she had known the provision was there.
And that this sort of carve out for AI companies to develop and deploy AI on their own terms basically forces its way into our everyday lives. And so I'm actually talking about that this week on my podcast, The Assignment. It's a subject of a new book by tech journalist Karen Howe. It's called Empire of AI. And she joined me for this chat.
The reason why I call my book Empire of AI is a nod to this argument that I make in the book that these companies need to be thought of as new forms of empire. And the reason is because empires of old and empires of AI share all the same features. First, they lay claim to resources that are not their own, but they redesign the rules to suggest that it was always their own. So they're scraping the internet saying,
This was free for the taking. But, you know, people did not give their informed consent to the idea that just because you post on social media, you're suddenly going to be fodder for training models that could potentially restrict your economic opportunity, you know. The empires also exploit labor all around the world. Exactly, yes. With...
AI companies, that not only refers to the fact that they contract a lot of workers around the world that then work in extremely poor conditions to do data cleaning, data annotation, and then content moderation for these companies, but also the fact that these organizations are ultimately building labor automating technologies. OpenAI's definition of AGI is highly autonomous systems that outperform humans in
most economically valuable work. - All right, to talk more about this, Kylie Robison, senior correspondent at Wired. So I wanna come back to what Karen is talking about, this kind of AI arms race. But first tell me about this legislation. What's the argument here for saying that states can't make their own regulations? 'Cause we're in this moment where they are actually starting to move against smartphones, for example, or social media requirements.
Yes, and thank you for having me. So this provision would ban state regulation for 10 years. And some of the arguments that you'll hear from the CEO of OpenAI, Sam Altman, and people who want to see regulation at a federal level, they say we don't want a patchwork of state regulations. But this would prohibit
state regulations for the next 10 years. And it preempts about a thousand state level regulations already in progress and also takes away some of the regulations already made by, you know, places like Colorado and New Jersey that have fought for regulation against deep fakes and misinformation. So this 10 year moratorium would stop that kind of work.
It kind of shows the power of the industry already. I mean, I think about that Middle East trip by the president and all the tech leaders that were there. So I was seeing, you know, Sam Altman of OpenAI in the Saudi court. We're hearing about Elon Musk, who, of course, has his own AI company. Is this an arms race? And if it is, what are some of the red flags?
They would like us to believe that it's an arm race, and I'm sympathetic to this argument. However, what we saw with DeepSeek, one of China's biggest AI labs, is that they did something called distillation with OpenAI's model, which they used OpenAI's most powerful model to train their own. So they're only going as fast, it seems, as
fast as we're moving. So it doesn't make a ton of sense to go in front of Congress and say we need to ban, we can't have state level regulation for the next 10 years when we might not even have the next couple of years. We might not have time to institute any rules that stop this progress before it's too late.
Yeah, I mean, AI moves so quickly. Ten years might as well be 100 years. What do you think of Marjorie Taylor Greene speaking out about this? Is there a nascent movement or is this just, you know, kind of a general Republican states' rights argument?
Well, you know, it's a good thing that regulation against some of the biggest tech companies in the world is becoming a bipartisan issue. You know, 59 percent of voters in a recent poll said that they oppose this. And 81 percent said that they think that this is moving too fast and don't want to see a 10 year ban. It's a little aggressive. So it's important.
for the people in charge to read what they are signing and voting for before it goes into law. And I think that it's really important that she's speaking out about this specific regulation. - Kylie Robison, senior correspondent at WIRED. Thank you so much. - Thank you. - If you wanna hear more about this topic, there's a new episode of "The Assignment" out now. They drop on Thursdays. Get them wherever you get your podcasts.
Still ahead on CNN this morning, we're learning more about the sweeping impacts of the massive GOP spending bill. We're going to take a look at how changes to Medicaid could lead to millions losing their insurance. Plus, what new documents reveal about the mindset of the man accused of killing UnitedHealthcare's CEO last year.
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President Trump takes a page from his first term playbook. Good morning, everybody. I'm Adi Cornish. I want to thank you for joining me on CNN this morning. It's half past the hour now, and here's what's happening right now. The president signed a proclamation which will ban all travel into the U.S. from 12 countries, including Afghanistan, Haiti, Iran and Yemen. And he warns that more countries could be added to the list. The ban goes into effect on Monday.
The Egyptian national accused of the anti-Semitic Molotov cocktail attack in Boulder, Colorado, will go before a judge this afternoon. Mohamed Sabri Soleiman faces 16 charges of attempted murder. He has an appearance also on federal hate crime charges tomorrow.
It's expected to be a busy day at the Supreme Court. The justices could issue more opinions this morning with just weeks to go this term. President Trump's executive order aimed at ending birthright citizenship is among the consequential cases still on the docket.
And in a matter of hours, Germany's new chancellor, Friedrich Merz, will sit down with President Trump in the Oval Office for their first face-to-face meeting. They've got a lot to discuss, including Trump's latest round of terror threats against the EU and Russian President Vladimir Putin's escalation of the war in Ukraine.
Just last week, Merce said Trump is obviously increasingly disillusioned with Putin from the massive attacks on Kyiv and other cities in Ukraine. I hope that America stays on board. Trump and Putin spoke by phone about 75 minutes on Wednesday. And Trump says Putin told him that Russia was, quote, obligated to respond to Ukraine's drone attacks last weekend. Officials in Kyiv wondering why the U.S. president didn't push back.
Is it not clear by this moment who is an aggressor and that Ukraine is defending itself? Does the president of the United States want to ally with Russia? Because it just doesn't seem right. None of that seems right. CNN senior international correspondent Frederick Pleikun joins us from Berlin. And first,
Since the last time we heard that quote from the Chancellor, Ukraine had its very successful attacks against jets and battlefield areas in Russia. So what kind of expectations are there for this meeting in terms of Germany talking about that or bringing up other sensitive issues?
Yeah, well, first of all, I think one of the things that Friedrich Metz, the new chancellor of Germany, wants to do is survive the meeting. I've been looking at German media today, and they said they're basically giving him advice not to end up the way that Volodymyr Zelensky did, of course, in that shouting match that happened in the meeting that he had with President Trump and, of course, also with Vice President J.D. Vance. So the German chancellor is certainly very much on alert. At the same time, you're absolutely right. There's a lot of very
the difficult topics that the two really need to discuss. Germany is obviously a very industrialized economy and a country that sells the United States a lot of things made of steel. So a lot of those tariffs are definitely going to hit the German economy very hard. And that's one of the things that Friedrich Metz is definitely going to raise with the U.S. president. And then also, you know, the war in Ukraine, I think you're absolutely right as well. That's also one of the things that's really been a hot topic.
over the past couple of days and where many here in Germany have been asking, how is Friedrich Merz going to try and bring President Trump on side with the Europeans who, of course, want a tougher line towards Vladimir Putin and towards the Russians in the war in Ukraine, Adi?
It's interesting because the Trump administration, specifically Vice President J.D. Vance, they've been super critical of Germany's leadership. In Germany, there was a pushback against the far right groups there, the ADP, that Vance and others were boosters for. So it feels like Germany is vulnerable to that kind of Oval Office ambush, like Ukraine or even like South Africa.
Yeah, that's one of the things that the Germans have really identified as a possible trap. The support that, for instance, J.D. Vance, the vice president, have been giving to the far right, AFD, and also some of the things that they've seen in the past from the vice president as well. In fact, there was a column in one of the biggest German newspapers earlier this morning saying, watch out for J.D. Vance, and certainly not try to get triggered by any of that. I think that the German chancellor is very much aware of that. And one of the things that we also, by the way, have to keep in mind is that the AFD has really,
really very much a rival party to the political party of Friedrich Metz. He's been under fire from the AFD, so he would certainly have some choice words possibly for the vice president. But again, I think one of the things that the Germans are trying to do is try to make sure that the public part of that meeting goes well, that there's no real confrontation in all of that, and then to try and raise all those difficult topics.
especially things like freedom of speech, things like the support that the AFD has been getting from some in the Trump administration. Try and raise that behind closed doors. CNN Senior International Correspondent Frederick Pleikken in Berlin. Thank you so much.
All right, we're continuing to follow the story about Elon Musk continuing to trash the big, beautiful bill on social media. But do Republican senators feel the heat? Throughout the day Wednesday, Musk amplified his hatred for the deal, calling for an entirely new bill to be drafted. He also posted memes about wanting to kill the bill. But as Republican senators on the Finance Committee left a meeting with President Trump, they seemed unmoved by the idea of starting all over.
No, I mean, we're a long ways down this track. The wheels are in motion on this. As I said before, failure is not an option. We will get this done one way or the other. Republican lawmakers also pushing back on the premise that the bill would add to the national debt. Another round of nonpartisan analysis seems to agree with Musk that the math ain't mathin'. The Congressional Budget Office projects the bill will add $2.4 trillion to the deficit
over the next decade. It would also leave another 11 million people without health insurance by 2034. And those numbers are actually spooking some moderate senators who want to scale back the cuts to Medicaid specifically. Now, the House still needs to vote to approve any changes that happen in the Senate.
Senator Lisa Murkowski and the like, they want to push back the Medicaid work requirements. They also, they think it's not workable. They also want to push back the phase out of the IRA tax credits. If it comes back. Yeah, it'll be dead. It'll be dead. Like, so if the Senate wants to go that direction, then this bill is, I mean, it's not even close to passing. So they need to go further or the bill's dead.
Group chat is back. I have one more piece of tape I have to play for you guys because there were some other Republican senators that were like bemused by Elon Musk talking about this bill. Let's listen to that.
Certainly the president and Elon are great friends. There's great respect. The president called him a genius today in our meeting because he believes strong in Elon Musk and all the work that he did to help his new administration. But I think he's got maybe a difference of opinion right now on some of these spending issues. You can't fix everything in one bill. But this is an important first step.
I hear the sensitivity of basically the parties, one of their biggest, most significant donors and most consequential government workers of the last few decades going against the agenda and how sensitive that is still.
It's sensitive for two reasons. One, I think the people need to understand, particularly in the Senate, the joy and having Elon Musk anywhere near them, particularly physically, when he would come up to Capitol Hill, but also his perspective, wane quite a bit over the course of the last couple months. Senators are also senators, right? They love to tell people how much they don't care about what other people are thinking about anything because they're their own people and they're all their own future president when they look in the mirror.
So the near-term issue is building outside opposition is a problem, getting pressure, that type of thing.
I actually think the more important issue here is Musk validating on some level or serving as a validator to the deficit concerns that the White House and top Republicans have said quite literally don't exist over the course of the last several weeks. I don't think that's any problem for the vast majority of Republicans. However, three or four Senate Republicans in particular have said the deficits that this adds over the course of 10 years, two trillion plus to the debt total, is a problem we need to cut more. And if you cut more, then you start trying to wander into...
we were just seeing from House members of very delicate and you can blow it all up. - Here's the thing, when I think of the power that Musk has on the app to amplify his thoughts about something and to mobilize, does this feel like a, are we gonna see a clash of media power here between the MAGA right and Musk?
He has the power, right, to change sentiment. It's hard to say. I mean, it's hard to predict kind of where Musk is going to go, whether he will have an interest in this. Well, not that we'll go with him, is what I'm saying. Exactly, but will he have an interest in this next week? Will his interest be on something else? He's also trying to stake out kind of an independence now that he's on the outs from the White House. But look, I think he's also—
maybe not for the right reason, he's correct in identifying the problems that this bill has in not addressing the budget deficits. And you hear from the White House now this sort of complaint that, oh, the CBO score, this is the Congressional Budget Office analysis. Yeah, it's blame the refs' time. Yeah, exactly. I mean...
there are nobody's perfect you know they're they're human analysts just like anybody else they're actually pretty good they had a very almost spot-on analysis what would happen with that 2017 tax bill I'm so for republicans to be complaining in doing their kind of trickery on this Elon Musk is I think giving some more heft to read the more that's accounting okay exactly I mean hey that is a cow's what I do not understand the math Sabrina last word to you I mean I would say that
You know, for maybe right now, Democrats and Elon Musk are aligned. This is you cannot tell me that the Republicans are the party of fiscal responsibility. I mean, this bill is going to add over two trillion dollars to the debt. It's very clear from your previous segment that of the thousand page bill, clearly people didn't read it. And talking about that publicly and talking about that publicly, I just didn't read the two pages of the over a thousand page bill.
- Sure. And then on top of that, what I think really the focus needs to be on is there's gonna be over 10 million vulnerable people kicked off their healthcare. These are your neighbors. - Stay with me. We are actually gonna be talking about that. Good for you, group chat. I'm gonna bring in another voice on this.
uh... specifically those changes to medicaid spree was just talking about proposed the bill and what they could mean for millions of americans so the legislation could expand work requirements meaning nearly eleven million people would be uninsured by twenty thirty four that's according to the congressional budget office which mike just mentioned uh... the house speaker thinks the nonpartisan office is making a mistake we're not buying the c_b_o_s estimates i don't think that's right we're giving flexibility to the states
The primary emphasis is on the workman. That's the large group of people that they claim to be affected. Joining me to talk more about this is Dr. Dhruv Kular, Associate Professor of Health Policy at Cornell Medical College. Dr. Kular, thank you for being here. Thanks for having me. So let's just talk work requirements because this comes around every few years. Republicans say that they're popular with voters. What's the state of play on kind of public sentiment around this?
well audrey as you know the non-partisan cbo has estimated that about 11 billion people would lose health insurance under the bill that was passed by the house and that includes eight billion people who lose medicaid coverage specifically and most of that is because of work requirements
Now, work requirements sound like a good idea to a lot of people. They're supported by more than six in 10 Americans, but there's a few reasons that it's actually much more complicated than it sounds. And the primary is that the majority of people, by some estimates more than 90% of people who would be subject to these types of requirements, they're already working or they're already looking for work or they're in school or they have a family member with a disability who they're caring for. And so what these work requirements end up doing
is that they create a lot of paperwork that caused people to lose coverage for mostly bureaucratic reasons, basically because of red tape. And so when states have tried to introduce these types of things in the past, they haven't been very successful in increasing employment, but they have caused a lot of people to lose health insurance coverage. So Arkansas did something like this a few years ago, and thousands of people in Arkansas ended up losing health insurance coverage.
But employment did not increase at all. And so it's not clear exactly what shape the Senate bill will ultimately take, but the cuts that are being proposed in the House bill would have significant impact on people's lives. If you aren't on Medicaid, what kind of impact could this have on health care overall? Will it affect many of us?
Well, there's a few ways to think about that. One is that a lot of people are now getting health insurance through the ACA's insurance marketplaces, and the bill proposes new enrollment rules that would cause people to potentially lose coverage in the ACA marketplaces because it makes it harder for people to enroll in the marketplaces, it shortens the periods during which people can enroll, and make it harder for people to stay enrolled in those marketplace plans because it ends things like automatic
re-enrollment. And so the CPO estimates that millions of people will lose health insurance coverage in the ACA exchanges as well. And we haven't even talked about the fact that a lot of the premium subsidies, the subsidies that people have been getting to afford their premiums in those plans, those are set to expire. And there's no plan currently to continue those types of subsidies. And for that reason,
CBO estimates that another 5 million people might lose health insurance coverage. So all in all, something like 16 million people, an enormous number of people, could lose insurance coverage over the next decade because of the combination of policies being proposed right now. That's Dr. Dhruv Kular. Thank you so much for being with us.
Thanks for having me. Straight ahead on CNN this morning, bombshell testimony in the Sean Combs trial from a witness who claims the rap mogul dangled her from a 17-story balcony. Plus, the FAA insists that the tech issues at Newark Liberty Airport will be fixed by the fall. Is that soon enough? More from the group chat after this.
More testimony ahead in the Sean Diddy Combs trial. Brianna Bongolin, a friend of Combs' ex-girlfriend Cassie Ventura, told jurors the rapper once dangled her from a balcony 17 stories high. She testified, quote, he basically came up from behind me. He lifted me up and hung me off the rail. He screamed, you know what the F you did. Bongolin also testified that she once saw Combs throw a knife at Cassie Ventura in a fit of rage.
- Anglyn, we'll be back on the stand today and former federal prosecutor Elise Adamson here is here to tell us how significant that is. Thank you for being here. - No problem, Maddie. - So how impactful is this kind of testimony? - I think it's extremely impactful if the jury ultimately believes it. I mean, this woman testified that Combs dangled her over a 17 story balcony. - I know. - That's mob like behavior. - Plus coming out of the Suge Knight '90s era of hip hop, like it's,
the balcony dangle is not that unusual. It's not that unusual, but it's still nonetheless shocking. Not ideal? Not ideal, exactly. And it's like mob-like behavior, and that's what prosecutors need to point Combs and the enterprise as being akin to, right? It's a Rico charge. He needs to be behaving in a pattern of abuse, threats, and violence. That's the theme. And I think this is important because Bonkland was not in a relationship with Combs. Recall, the defense has been painting this as a toxic relationship.
intimate partner relationship.
She is not that. She's a friend of Ventura's. Why is he dangling anyone over a balcony? But why is he dangling this random person? So I think the prosecution scored points eliciting this testimony, but now we're gonna see how she holds up on cross, right? - Holds up on cross. So these cross examinations by the defense have been very strong, I think, from the reporting. Can you talk to me about what you're hearing out of the reporting about the jury and people in the room, how some of this is actually landing?
Yeah, that's a very interesting question. So I see some people online asking, oh, this is the $10 million defense. And my response is yes. I actually think this is an incredibly effective defense. For instance, Mia's testimony, right? Conventional wisdom would say when you go cross a victim, she had alleged sexual assault, you're going to want a female to approach.
Meaning you want a woman lawyer to be the one asking a female victim, what happened to you? That's right, because it's perceived as more gentle, more caring. You don't want to alienate the jury. You don't want to seem like a bully as a defense attorney, because jurors would be turned off. They don't like you. It looks like you're beating up on someone.
That is not what the defense did. They had Brian Steele cross Mia, and he did a very effective blistering cross. The prosecution said this could even be bordering on harassment. But from the reporting I read, Audie, from people who were in the courtroom and watching the jury, there were a few jurors that it appeared were really following along with that cross. One in particular was reported to have been smiling and nodding along to some of Steele's cross. That was
kind of insinuating that Mia was making up some of the story or it was hyperbole all for her own gain.
And if it only takes, we talked about this before, it only takes one juror to hang, meaning a hung jury where he's not going to be convicted. So the defense seems to be extremely strategic in how they are doing things. Meaning they're presenting things with an eye on certain jurors or? An eye on certain strategies. Sometimes the strategy isn't always, well, let's just get a straight acquittal, meaning this person is going to walk.
That's always what you want as a defense attorney now, right? But sometimes we need to be more surgical, more strategic and say, well, if we may not turn everybody, if we look like some of the jury is feeling our narrative, let's really start speaking to those people. And I think that's what we're seeing here. It is a very smart defense group of defense attorneys. And I think that they are kind of
kind of aligning their approach with what they're seeing in the jury, which is what you want out of a defense team. So I think people need to give this defense team a little bit more credit than they have. And they have a big test coming up. There's going to be a Jane Doe with very serious allegations coming up over the next day or so. And some people think that prosecution, that testimony could go pretty long. So, Elise Adamson, thank you so much. Thanks so much for having me, Adi.
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Here's your morning roundup. Newly revealed journal entry shed light into how Luigi Mangione felt in the months leading up to the death of the UnitedHealthcare CEO. Mangione is accused of killing him on the streets of New York. One entry about four months before reads, quote, "I finally feel confident about what I will do. The details are coming together and I don't feel any doubt about whether it's right/justified." Mangione has pled not guilty.
The head of the FAA says he is confident the tech issues at Newark will be fixed by October. The airport has had a string of issues, including communication blackouts that left pilots and controllers in the dark. The FAA says they're working on a fix to that, along with the staffing shortage right now. And former White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre says she's left the Democratic Party and switched her affiliation to Independent.
In an era of misinformation, disinformation, the regressiveness of social policy, what we're seeing currently right now, what I have decided to do, and I really have thought long and hard about this, is to follow my own compass. Jean-Pierre has a new book coming out in October that she says examines President Biden's decision to drop out of the 2024 election and how the Democratic Party betrayed him.
Okay, taking it to the group chat. Before I do, I have to ask you about this book. We've talked about the White House under her tenure before. What do you make of the reaction to it? It is very mixed and a lot of news stories coming out saying a Democratic source says, a Democratic source says, a lot of...
Yeah, a lot of people served in the administration, particularly in communications roles, one of whom may be sitting right next to us. I haven't talked to Sabrina about this actually. I have a lot of thoughts. I would urge them to put it on the record if you have the thoughts. Not just your group chats, though. Sabrina, we're coming to you. It's very easy to roll hand grenades on background. I think the reality is I want to see the book before I decide what it is or isn't. What I have consistently said when hungering
hundreds of text messages have come in about this over the course of the last 24 hours. It's been interesting that she has not really been out there, around, or mentioned anywhere given the volume of news related to the time that she was there inside the administration. Defending the former president, yeah. And I think that's telling in terms of
just how inside her role was in the White House or wasn't? That you don't see her name, she's not in any meetings? - Well, we're about to find out in the book. - Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see. - He says his phone's blowing up. Are your group chats also blowing up with people? - Oh yeah. - Okay. - Yeah, group chats were busy yesterday. - Is it skulls or fires? - You know, I think it's a mix. Look, I-- - Skulls on fires. - Yeah, the skull is on fire. You know, I think just, haven't seen the book, so don't know the contents of it.
I think as a party, what I would, I mean, as, you know, as a Democrat myself, what I would rather see is people rolling up their sleeves. Like, you got a solution? Bring it to the table. You have an idea about a candidate that should run? Talk to the DTRIP. Talk to the DS. Talk to the DNC. Get involved in your local and state, you know, races in your states all around the country. You know, I think there's a lot of criticism of the party. It's well-deserved. We're, you know...
half a year in. We have the midterms coming up. Let's keep the focus on that. They're still litigating this whole thing. And now the Department of Justice might be as well, because they're looking into the use of auto pens, which they had been doing back during the George W. Bush administration. But the DOJ is keeping this fire lit, so to speak.
Yeah, I mean, I think this is the Trump administration loves to see all this sort of democratic infighting. Look, in terms of the book, like I
I would be interested to see if there's anything juicy, anything interesting, anything that we didn't know that we might should have known going on. I mean, obviously, Jake Tapper and Alex Thomason's book has told us quite a bit about that. I'm a little concerned that this was the White House's spokesperson, the press secretary. And the tell-all book from the press secretary concerns me that why should we trust what she's saying now if she's telling us things that maybe she should have been...
better about disclosing when she was in charge. - All right, you guys, we are at a key point during the week. Tell us what we should be keeping an eye on. Roadhead. - I usually go economic policy,
I'm going to NBA Finals. Do it. I'm going to NBA Finals. It's a wild time. A lot of people clicked out when the Knicks got bounced. These are two amazing fan bases. The atmospheres are going to be electric, and the teams are extraordinarily fun to watch with some of the best young players in the game. Yeah, Pacers Thunder. Watch the Finals tonight, game one. Okay, we're doing it. You won't be up early tomorrow, so you can do that. Mike, Warren?
I'm going back to politics because, yes, it's 2025, but I want to know what's happening. There's a bunch of primaries, Republican and Democratic primaries coming up. There is a fundraising deadline at the end of this month. It will be very interesting to see who starts leaking
really good fundraising numbers and he tries to kind of hide them until like mid-July when everybody's at the beach to, you know, particularly going to be watching that Texas race for Senate. John Cornyn, you've got Ken Paxton challenging him in that primary. I want to see where the fundraising numbers are. For all the speculation we do on panels like this where we're like, what does this mean? What does that mean? Who comes out to run?
usually gives you a sense of where any given party is headed. Yeah. Sabrina? I'm going to go back to sports. I'm watching Coco Gauff. She's coming up, I think, at 10.30 today at the French Open. It's the semis. She's playing against, you know, an incredibly talented player that's come, I think she was ranked in the hundreds and has risen and continued to defeat some of the women in front of her. But watching Coco Gauff, I think she's always just an incredible player on the court. And so that's what I'll be watching.
Okay, tennis, basketball, paperwork. Politics, come on. That'd be she-files. Exactly. Thanks to the group chat. I want to thank you for waking up with us. We know there's a lot of places you can spend your time, and I'm glad you're here. I'm Adi Cornish, and CNN News Central starts right now.
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