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Conflict in the Middle East is spreading. Is a wider regional war imminent?

2024/10/1
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叙述者:中东局势急剧升级,伊朗对以色列发动大规模导弹袭击,引发了地区全面战争的担忧。以色列对黎巴嫩采取军事行动,进一步加剧了冲突。 麦肯齐将军:伊朗此次袭击可能与其主要盟友黎巴嫩真主党领导人被杀有关,但其成功可能性存疑。以色列拥有更强大的报复能力,可以对伊朗采取空袭、导弹袭击和网络攻击等多种行动。伊朗的长期目标是维护政权,此次袭击可能源于其在黎巴嫩的困境以及4月份袭击失败后的无奈之举。他提醒以色列民众注意空袭警报,并解释了导弹拦截机制。他认为以色列的回应将取决于此次袭击造成的损害程度,损害越大,回应越强烈。 麦肯齐将军:伊朗外交政策的长期目标是维护神权政体,避免政权受到直接攻击。他对伊朗此次袭击感到惊讶,怀疑其成功可能性,并认为以色列拥有更强大的报复能力。伊朗可能因为其主要盟友黎巴嫩真主党领导人被杀而被迫采取行动,但他警告说,如果行动没有产生有意义的影响,反而会使情况恶化。他提醒以色列民众注意空袭警报,并解释了导弹拦截机制。他认为以色列的回应将取决于此次袭击造成的损害程度,损害越大,回应越强烈。

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The Middle East is facing a dramatic escalation in conflict, marked by Iran's launch of missiles against Israel and Israel's ground offensive into southern Lebanon. These actions raise concerns about the potential for a wider regional war.
  • Iran launched nearly 200 long-range missiles at Israel
  • Israel launched a ground offensive in Southern Lebanon

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A dramatic escalation in the Middle East has heightened fears that the region is on the brink of an all-out war. On Tuesday, Iran launched nearly 200 long-range missiles against Israel. Sirens rang out across Israel as the attack unfolded. Iran claims the strikes were in response to Israel's killing of Hezbollah's leader Hassan Nasrallah last week in Lebanon.

Iran has considered Hezbollah an important proxy against Israel, and it has armed the militant group for decades. The missile attack occurred just hours after Israeli forces launched a ground offensive into southern Lebanon. It is the first time Israel has invaded Lebanon since 2006. Consider this. Conflict in the Middle East is spreading. Is a wider regional war imminent? ♪

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It's Consider This from NPR. The war in the Middle East appears to be widening, almost one year after Hamas launched its attack on Israel.

For more on what might unfold from here, we caught up with General Frank McKenzie, former commander of United States Central Command. And I asked him if he had a sense of Iran's calculations in launching Tuesday's attacks and what it all might mean for the wider region. The long-term goal of all Iranian foreign policy is regime preservation.

They want to preserve the clerical regime. They don't want to get themselves into a situation where that regime is actually subject to direct attack by Israel or the United States or anyone else. So...

So I'm a little surprised they're actually doing this right now because, to be honest with you, I doubt their ability to have genuine success in this attack. And now the Israelis will have the option to retaliate. And the Israelis possess far more retaliatory options against Iran than Iran does against Israel.

So I'm a little puzzled at this attack, although I would say they've been pushed into a corner a bit by largely the decapitation of their major ally, Lebanese Hezbollah. Things are not going well for them in Lebanon. Things did not go well for them in April when they launched the last attack on Israel. So you could see that Iranian thinking could be they need to do something now. Just you've got to be very careful that if you're going to do something, it needs to have a meaningful effect. If it doesn't have a meaningful effect, you're going to be in worse shape than you were when you began. Yeah.

Well, just to put this in very real terms for people on the ground in Israel, what are the risks that they are facing at the moment? Obviously, these strikes are deadly or could be deadly. Can you just describe for people who are listening, what are the immediate direct risks for people on the ground in Israel? Sure. Well, people need to be under shelter. And that's why they sounded the air raid sirens. You need to be undercover because even a successful intercept, there's still a lot of iron that's going to fall from the sky.

And the other thing is, as you look at these missiles impacting, and I'm seeing some impact, remember that Iron Dome, Patriot, other systems make a calculation about intercepting a missile. If the missile's not headed for a populated area or a vital target, you're going to let the missile continue on its track and explode harmlessly. So when you see missiles hit the ground, sometimes people think, well, they're having success. Well, not necessarily, because if the missile's not going for a vital area, which is in the ballistic computers that look at the track of the missile, you might let it go on.

There's a lot of stuff falling from the sky. People should take cover. Listen to notifications from the air defense system there, which is very good, very well plugged in, and will keep people apprised of what's going on. Well, as you look ahead, can you just tell me what is top of mind, your most immediate concern, as you're thinking about how these simultaneous conflicts are unfolding right now? Sure. I think the thing that people's mind will turn to next, what will be the Israeli response?

It will be scoped to what happens in this attack. So if there's significant damage done in this attack, then I would look, I think, for a very large Israeli response. And they've demonstrated that they have the ability to do it. They've demonstrated they have the ability to operate almost with impunity over Tehran.

They did that in April after the 13 April Iranian attack on Israel. So they have a lot of options if they want to take this war and really impose a significant punishment on Tehran. And so, you know, I think, again, I think, though, that will be scoped and scaled to what happens in the attack that is still in the attack period right now. You said Israel has multiple options. What are those options at this moment to respond? Well, Israel has the ability to respond with...

With airstrikes, they have their own missile force. They have a variety of cyber options that are all available to them. Remember in the aftermath of the 13 April attack, they demonstrated profound technological superiority over Iran by operating essentially unmolested in the Tehran-Espahan corridor over Iran's most sensitive nuclear targets. And Iran was unable to prevent them from doing that. So Israel has lots of choices here should they choose to respond.

That was General Frank McKenzie, former commander of United States Central Command and executive director of the University of South Florida's Global and National Security Institute. This episode was produced by Catherine Fink and Michael Levitt. It was edited by Courtney Dorning and Christopher Intagliata. Our executive producer is Sammy Yannickin.

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