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The fate of Ukraine hangs in the balance as Trump sides with Russia

2025/2/20
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乔安娜·卡基西斯
本
本·霍奇斯将军
格
格雷格·迈尔
泽
泽连斯基
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特朗普
美国企业家、政治人物及媒体名人，曾任第45任和第47任美国总统。
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特朗普: 我认为我有能力结束这场战争，并且进展顺利。乌克兰应该为战争负责，他们应该在三年前就结束战争。泽连斯基应该迅速采取行动，否则他将失去国家。我正在通过对乌克兰施加压力来推动停火。 泽连斯基: 特朗普似乎生活在俄罗斯制造的虚假信息空间中。我希望看到特朗普团队更多的事实。 本·霍奇斯将军: 美国天真地认为可以与俄罗斯合作。俄罗斯的目标是摧毁乌克兰作为一个国家。我们的盟友对我们仍然相信俄罗斯有良好意图感到震惊。 格雷格·迈尔: 特朗普对乌克兰和泽连斯基的批评比以往任何时候都更加严厉。特朗普正在通过对乌克兰施加压力来推动停火。尽管美国对乌克兰的军事支持仍在继续，但正在减少，特朗普也没有表示会寻求更多支持。特朗普想要停火，但似乎对细节不感兴趣；俄罗斯也想要停火，但目标远大。 乔安娜·卡基西斯: 泽连斯基对特朗普的言论表示担忧，认为特朗普身处俄罗斯制造的虚假信息空间。乌克兰人对特朗普的言论感到愤怒和震惊，认为特朗普的行为如同拥有乌克兰一样。乌克兰想要强有力的安全保障，不会放弃加入北约或收复被俄罗斯占领的领土。

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President Trump's recent statements on the Ukraine conflict align with Russian narratives, raising concerns among Ukraine's supporters and allies. His comments mark a significant departure from long-standing US foreign policy, leaving Ukraine's future uncertain as US-Russia relations improve.
  • Trump's rhetoric mirrors Kremlin talking points, falsely claiming Ukraine started the war.
  • The exclusion of Ukraine from a US-Russia meeting further emphasizes this shift.
  • Trump's statements have caused alarm among Ukraine's allies.

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Earlier this week, President Donald Trump accused Ukraine of starting the war with Russia. Three years ago Russian troops poured over Ukraine's border, and Russian missiles and drones continue to bombard Ukrainian cities.Besides being untrue, the comments echoed a popular Kremlin talking point. And Trump's comments signaled a seismic shift in decades of U.S. foreign policy. Supporters of Ukraine and its allies, both here and abroad, were left shaken.NPR's Joanna Kakissis and Greg Myre discuss Ukraine's future as Russia-U.S. relations thaw. For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org).Email us at [email protected]). Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices)NPR Privacy Policy)