Talking Dateline: The Last Weekend
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Hey everybody, we are talking date line. I Mandy canning, and today is my turn to interview Keith Morrison. Hello, k hi.

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We a hundred percent canadian content right now. So we are talking about your episode called the last weekend. If you haven't seen this yet on TV, do that first and then come back here if you haven't heard that in the podcast form and want to it's the episode right below this one in the list of podcast that you can choose from. So okay, something I learned this just this morning about um this episode and others is that this is the fourth date line in greedy color know what is in the water there but I feel .

like we're beginning to know don't you have you done the storage greeting?

I know I haven't. I I feel left out maybe don't want date line visiting that many times.

You know it's like any other town, but things happened in every town around amErica or the world for that matter. And greely is more seems to be or more open to uh, discussing with the public what what occurs on these situations. Um the police department is open and we have done other stories before, which tends to lead us to the next story in the kid with the next one that comes along. We know the people we call them up going to really is always kind of a it's a it's a it's a nice drive and it's a, it's a pleasant place to find a few days.

I like IT. One of the things, of course, about the is just the beauty of the area. The mountain exact is so stunning.

and the topography does play a role in when he does.

Yes, with the body being found on the mountain when Scott is first discovered, he really went out of his way, Kevin, to take scot body up on this mountain.

Well yes they both see IT and the um but whose direction right the story is won which is unfortunately um all too common everywhere you go in human society I guess and certainly in amErica where um uh you know a guy will not take no for an answer and is a controlling person and then things happen as a result, usually bad things and in this case bizarre ad things happen which is why became a story for this one?

Okay, so I was a little I got a little confused at the end. So heather was somehow a part of this, but is the theory that he was converse ed, or that he was afraid?

This is you get to, you get to the central point I think and to me the whole lesson of of this story is uh here was a good person, a good woman who uh was trying to live a good life um who had got herself mixed up with a with a bad guy and then forms a new relationship with this very nice man who plays the trumpet uh and the old boyfriend finds out about IT and he is there and he has got to under his control again and commit this horrible act with her the police think right there in the house with him probably you know, as bait dear Scott sessions to his death and then for the next several days afterwards has to pretend as if nothing happened but IT sounded so much to me like a woman living in fear under the control of one of these controlling characters. As you know, andry, from doing so many of these stories, IT is at the heart of so much of what we do.

I I was just shooting a story this week in florida that was very similar, where the woman got caught up in something very similar and said that I was, I was the boyfriend, the honor again, off again boyfriend. Who was you controlling her and and putting fear into her? And how much of that is true, I don't know, but this is her story. So do you think then that IT truly was either who lord scot over? No.

he was not. SHE was not in charge of her of her facebook account point.

So he was, he was in charge, you think from the beginning.

I think he arrived in town. He received in town and response to his understanding what was going on to the guy like IT so he shows up and he devised a plan to get him over there so he could get rid of SHE would not be trying to get this new boyfriend over while her x boyfriend was there just wouldn't make any sense. The the moment that really makes my heart sink whenever I watch IT is that piece of video that shows heather and Kevin walking out of her house and toward his car when he doesn't know, isn't aware of the fact that he is walking to her death.

something we should mention because of the nature of this story and the disturbing nature of uh heather and her relationship with Kevin. We just wanna add um that if you are in a situation like that and you are ready to get help um because there is a lot of help out there for for men and women um the domestic violence hotlines eight hundred seven, nine, nine, seven, two, three, three, eight hundred seven, nine, nine, seven, two, three, three of you need help you can always reach out yeah and I take IT you try to interview Kevin yes.

but you know many of these things as you know you you make an approach but they don't want to do IT.

They don't want to do IT. Yeah it's interesting of how a couple this year with the the men have actually admitted to to doing the killings, which is very, very rare because usually if I deny, deny, deny, but you even when you do get in front of them and they admit to doing IT, as I discovered this year, they just kept, I don't know, I don't know what came over me, you know so even then it's hard to get answers. And as far as Kevin, I mean, for a small town guy, I mean, he's he's really going for the Oscar in that interview room he was laying in on thick.

I mean, you have to wonder what was going on in his head. He has there. There are two things happening that that we're interesting to me. One is, as you can see, the White turning as he's trying to come up with the story presentation of himself that's going to work either he's going to try to show them that he's crazy. You try to show them that he really cares about what you know can I pull the wool over their eyes? You do I have to act like i'm a complete crazy person in order to get away with this. Um and he didn't seem to know which one to opt for one of my favorite fictional detectives um inspector migrate of a series of both certain in the sort of early amid twenty century by George seminal one of the things he would always say to the perpetrators of these horrendous crimes and he was trying to solve is my job is not to judge but to understand um and even formed relationships with some of these criminals and in an effort to not condemn them but to understand what made them take because I was is the driving force of his career in a way I can see why that's exactly what we are to be doing. Just try to figure out why people take the way they do.

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You can't help but .

feel for the victims .

involved here because they were such you know they were they were good people. They were interesting people and um I think that the world is is is missing both their talents and they would have been happy together.

It's just very sad. Yeah IT seemed like a really sweet romance. Know how there is coming off of this this bad breakup with Kevin and for Scott IT felt like, you know, he's in his fifty, right? He he's not married and I kind of felt .

like for whatever reason.

you ve got that impression like these two had finally found each other and they're gonna IT. He was .

finally onna get a chance but he didn't think was going to get and SHE was funny out of that, as you say.

I mean, when I think about those two coming together and almost is like a ROM comment first, you know the trumpet player meets the way and it's very cute in the small in the small town, the small snowy .

mountain town sounds like you might you have ideas and and well.

it's yeah like every homework movie. Unfortunately this you know this one takes a date line twist, which is not, does not they never got the happy ending.

But I was so struck by the place SHE worked and the people who worked with her. That cheers atmosphere in this, in this diner where he worked in the fact he was so popular with her co workers and with the customers they are, knew them all by name and got yourself all do adapt to go to work and he just was really attracted to that character like, sounds like the kind of person you'd want to know and him with you a really remarkable tell at playing the drop when you hear him play. And unfortunately we know because of uh, copyright issues, we we couldn't play his most of his music.

That's bhang bug.

IT is bow handbag but is or as we say in the podcast, I do you do know .

so much Better than me .

but the know what what was yeah and the way his dad described him and .

an and a sister with the trumpet that that's when he was the est, when he was holding .

that trumpet yeah he was he and .

in this case, you know, Scott was adopted and he made his parents very happy you know they got there. They ve got their little boy um you could really fill the love between Scott and his father. heartbreaking.

One start breaking and I felt I so felt for that man who you know a short order lost his sunday murder and then his wife .

died his wife, you could see how proud he was .

of sure quite right way so um so one .

of the things you learned is something about Scott sister that SHE told you well.

first of all that he reconnected with her was very sweet and to see how much you care and how much you love the guy understand that me so but to discover a brother you didn't know you had um must have been such a such an emotional turn for her and for her life um and that he clearly loved him was obvious when SHE has this trumpet what IT is trumped and want to learn how to play as trumped IT to be somehow closer to the memory of him lovely thing is really nice.

What sweet music sh'll make no matter how that sounds.

That's true.

We all know what a novice trumpet player sounds like. We all have had kids who have tried to pick up the trumpet. I I just I love that she's doing that this so so great. Something about this story also was the um you know the the ending was just really I just really tugged at your heart strings. How did you feel about IT when you watched IT?

Well, when you're telling a story, the end is probably the most important moment, right? So you want to be able to leave people with something they remember. I'm glad to know that you felt that that was accomplish. That was, that's what we try to do.

Yeah, I was the know. They had the memorial concert for him, which I felt like, and and for hether two, which I felt was just .

so appropriate not to get to, you know, story telling one or one. But so you want that you want that moment where really talks at you. And maybe you feel little dear, because you if you're very right to given what you just witness, but you don't want to go too far. So IT just has to be exactly the right amount and getting the right amount without sort of making people think when they getting all happy here.

What are the things we try to do at date line? So much is for the viewers and the listeners to really understand who these people are and to get that to to color that picture of who was god, who was either. And I really had this sense of them by the end. So when you do watch that memorial concert, IT really pays off because you've got on a journey with them and unfortunately was, as you know, a sad ending to the journey. But but you did a job of like making me feel like I knew them.

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I, I just, I want to, of course, give a shout out to your, your excEllent writing, keys and delivery. No, because you do IT like no one.

no one .

else can shed out the for, for anybody who may know, those who work at deadline, the, I was able to work with A, A wonderful producer. And rob, you can, who's been around for many years and worked with him. He is a consumer pro and a wonderful guy.

I love working with rob. We always have fun together. I spent, I think he was two years ago.

I spent my birthday with rob. He made sure we all went out. We were somewhere. Can even remember where now he ordered my favorite wine. He's a nice guy. Um but you're writing I was going to say, you know you had some lines that I picked up on such as uh, the bacon perfume to the room .

that wasn't my .

that wasn't no that wasn't in a line okay so was rob's line .

written for you will .

get on rob for channeling his inner Keith morson right? And you know I also like the line to know none of us are perfect.

Absolutely, that I think the reason that people watch the programs we do and are interested in the issues we talk .

about is that that .

is the human condition .

is so messed up, we're all trying to get through our lives and do good things and not not do bad things and fAiling repeatedly and or the kind of people who have to look at what can happen and think I am not that or am I going to be a victim like this person i'm watching on television. So it's a way of kind of assessing your own life in a way, and understanding what IT is to be a human being.

So itself was, if fascinating, uh, police procedural with some difficulties along the way. You used to read a lot of scandinavian crime fiction, really and and yes and so they the they tend to be a little team of police officers trying to solve a terrible murder and running into all kinds of complications along the way. And this was like one of those in in the sense that the process was was so complicated and so exhAusting. And they did what human beings do, you know, they ran out of steam at one point. They had to take a break, and then later on they feel a bad about a having, you know, had we only done such as such, had we only follow up a little more, right?

Because he was killed in that interm period, either IT made me think so much now and a lot of our date lines so often there's the this interesting tactic of how the police or on to people and they go behind their backs and they dig in to their cell phone records and their google maps, and they and the people have no idea that this is happening under their noses.

And IT gives the police vital information about their whereabout ts without them knowing. But in this case, IT kind of worked. IT will IT work to the disadvantage in the way that that either was was killed during this period.

IT did. And uh one of the other complications, of course, you can get all that information about a person, but you have to have probable cause to making arrest and um that's a kind of a decision somebody had a higher level in posted. The people involved in the great work of of solving a crime are able to are able to make.

So and this was one of those situations where along the way, uh as Kevin is um going to find the fuel to be able to go back to that farm to to burn her ther's body the way he tried to burn Scott session's body um finally the detective catches gas station and he has to make a decision, am I going to approach that guy and yeah try to put under arrest you might be ARM shoot me he my god knows what might happen but um I if I decide to arrest him, i'm kind of at this point making a decision that's above my pg ride and you have guts to make IT so that was an interesting story that he told. And the the position that he was in was was one, you know, you can certainly see what I would have been like. And that's when I find myself really getting into a story, when you you can put yourself in the shoes of all the people involved. One.

what would I do?

Yeah, what would I do? So I think, thank you.

That was one of the moments that really had me riveted was this detective, because I was scared for him, because he's following the sky around who he thinks is a killer. And there, you know, this is country, this is back country. This is mountain territory. He's by himself.

well, guys armed, and he's already killed at least one person. And they think maybe too, and they gotta stop him before he does IT again.

Do you have any scandinavian crime novel recommendations? Any favorites there?

There, there are lots of good ones.

What is there one that jump s out in your mind that you really enjoyed?

The man who became the kind of signature writer that cut of fiction was hanging mako.

So anything in that collection?

sure. And then the the girl with the dragon tattoo .

is that was an intense book and movie.

Well, you know .

what's talking date line? So you talk whatever your talk takes you, right? You.

yeah, I guess that's that works.

And I just wanted to say on a personal note, I post a photo of us IT popped up on my memories from one of our holiday parties. I posted IT and I got so many comments and I I just wanted to tell you how many people love you and your family and we're sending such well wishes. And I just love our deadline community and IT just really warmed my heart to see all the the kind things that they were saying about you and and your .

for your amazing family .

is a good family yeah, i'm i'm a lucky man in .

many .

ways yeah cause yes, miss him a lot yeah that will go away.

This is a specially hard time of year as well when everyone is with their family so um you are loved Keith Morrison .

and your family same to you and have a wonderful Christmas season.

Thank you. That is our talking date line um for the last weekend. And Keith IT has been such a pleasure getting .

to spend this time with you.

you too.

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