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Kelly zana, mati and ever they would come over to our partner at the time. In a sense, IT still doesn't feel real. This is someone that we've ever seen before.
didn't even know about you. To a surprise indeed. Ment, just this week in the baffling murder of four college students in idaho. Now date lines uncovered exclusive new information about the suspect.
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he'd been there before in the house.
He knew where they slight.
what would make them targets.
They were the type of woman he could never path.
Was his own family suspicious? Our source says several members of the family actually went outside to look for evidence.
This individual is the right one. He picked the wrong family already for this case.
You're inside this heartbreaking mystery like never before. I'm lester hold, and this is deadline.
He is Keith Morrison with the killings on king road.
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They should still be here. You know.
this is Kelly dewin talking about Kelly gunn selves and mei Morgan murdered along with sana a note and eaten japan in that now infamous ous off campus house on king road, just behind kal's apartment .
buildings.
Four friends stabbed to death, allegedly by this man, brian coburg, a criminology grad student that nearby washington state university. Have you ever seen brand colberg before at all? No, never heard.
never seen him before. This is literally .
stranger these days. Colberg sits a loan in a cell less than a mile from campus here in the layout k. County jail.
Presumed innocent unless proven guilty. Well, the legal process works around him. This is state. By the hovers is brian coburg. He had already been charged with four counts, the first degree murder and one of burglary for entering the house in king road was awaiting a preliminary hearing schedule for next month, and then this week, a grand jury eliminated the need for that hearing by formally and dating. Coworker will appear in court monday to be arrange and to enter a plea.
The endgames itself remains under seal, and official guy order has slowed information to a trickle, but as you will hear, we have learned things, including exclusive information from a source with inside knowledge of the investigation about the information k bar and the murder weapon for one thing, and is she's the one the killer left behind. hello. Also the untold real story behind two curious traffic stops where you headed as brian colberg and his father drove home for Christmas.
I'll tell you what police have learned about events inside the coburg home in the days before the arrest and why some members of the family may not have been so surprised when agents descended on mass just before a new year's is eve, and never even that was will show you newly released body camp video, a brian colberg during a traffic stop a month before the murders. But before we get to that, the void, the ache, is still very real. For those who were lost, carla feels IT for her friend.
Kay SHE was one of the girls that made me feel kind of like safe. And SHE was always that positive, like a loyal joke or printer friend, I guess, that I feel like everyone needed in their lives.
especially, of course, kEllie on cell as his parents. Steve Christie, you can wake you up in the middle the night and say, hey, pack your bx. We're going to mexico in the morning and you would be like, are you serious? Let's go.
Kelly was twenty one. A month from graduation. SHE, officially ally, moved out of the house on king road, had lined up in IT job in texas.
Eason chapon was twenty tall, athletic, going places. The first born of trip lets is siblings. Now without their anchor, his parents are broken harder.
And i've said at a hundred times, so I ss, I miss him dearly.
We touches in many lives.
As he did in his twenty years. This world would be a Better place.
East's girlfriend, anaho note, also twenty, was a magnet on campus, friend to the frontless, the one everybody knew and everybody liked. Zanna also worked part time at had greek restaurant in dowton, moscow, as did her roommate, matt Morgan. Matty was our family as well.
Kelly parents can talk about their own daughter without talking about mady. These girls were best friends and six grade like inseparable. So why, then why? These four innocence, our search for answers, will take us across the country and back through time. But IT begins here in Young, open lives on campus. People who loved and lived on social media tell me about the social media sites that that you and the others there would have used.
Think mostly instagram snapshot tiktok here are Kelly .
and her roommates imitating each other in a tiktok video.
Did anyway there torto .
IT you put up some videos yourself? You .
probably on tiktok. yeah.
Hey, siri was the word look like, looks like you're need an umbrella. A little bit trippy, of course. This is how life is lived for millions of cloud, where everybody can see, no matter what the secret observers motive might be. Two people grandbaby approach you on social media. Yes, you all know yes, but they have known where you were when you uploaded at something.
I would say, yes.
we can't know yet why these four or one of these four we're targeted. Well, they're been reports that brian coburg a was following some of the victims, even messaging some of the victims on social media. Our source says that's not correct.
But was one or more of them stocked on social media quite possibly save this man. And here is how we don't know what's going on behind the screens of these little device to Carry around. But those devices are tracking your location.
Um they're tied to social media. This is James Samuel, x fighter pilot. Once work for the government agency that helped find A M A bladon. We asked him about geotagging. That bit of tech that identifies precisely where and win photos and videos remain IT can be turned off.
But among students at the university of I do IT rarely was with your geo tag on and using social media, you can do one post. And then, if you have several thousand followers, they can know to a large degree, all immediately know where you are. And if they want to meet up with you, then they can just show up.
Do you believe that their social media presence, the students there, university by the hole, was used by a predator to to target them? I think in the twenty first century, if there is a predator, they are going to understand the power, social media and the fact that the jail tags are there to show the location, other potential victims. So four students went about their lives less fully unaware that someone was likely watching stocking them. Was IT someone, police have wondered, who had a score to settle?
Ever since brian colberg was charged with murdering Kelly and mei and sana and eason and moscow at a whole lesson november, there have been so many questions. Perhaps the biggest one, just who is he as cover ga sits in jail and died for murder, but biannual ans convicted. His whole life is under a microscope.
He kept to himself.
He was an awkward kid, a child, hod friend casey arranged, overweight and socially chAllenged. He might have picked .
on because he seemed like a weird kid with no friends.
picked on often and made fun of by girls. But our first real glimpse in the coverages own teenage mind comes directly from him in online posts, starting in late two thousand nine, around the time he turned fifteen, something like thirteen years before the murders. Quoting, now I always wonder what a Normal person would be doing, what I sit there and suffer. This is an a forum for people in during a condition call visual snow.
Visual snow is a term that is used to describe the experience of looking at the visual field and seeing IT as if it's sort of picolet ted or if there are a little gots.
Doctor gary brook, ta is a clinical psychology and the co creator of the columbia university mass murder database. He's also a visiting scholar at boston college. dr. Or bada has not examined cover her, but he has followed the case closely.
There are all sorts of possible reasons why a person might experience visual snow. He did experience by his own report a sort of steel of league symptoms, depressive symptoms and anxiety symptoms, associated symptoms. And this visual snow that really came together to make him feel broken .
was that broken feeling behind colberg is use of marijuana and herland. We don't know. We do know, though, that he spent time in rehab. And as for his weight, he wrote online that he felt like an organic sack of meat with no self worth. And then he lost more than one hundred pounds before graduating from high school.
The interesting thing I think about coburg is the suspect is that he tried everything under the sun to try to get people to like him or to understand them. If I lose weight, people will like me. If I do well in school, people, people like me, if I post about my mental health issues on the internet, perhaps all garn or sympathy.
coburg ger comments further about battling demons, wandering the streets, feeding like a criminal, comments which caught the attention of retired FBI profile or greg Cooper.
In my mind, he's already contemplating and visualizing himself as a criminal .
years and years before.
years and years before, and eventually started identify with .
them after high school, colberg a attended northampton n community college where, as best we can tell, sometime in twenty sixteen, his woman said SHE met him.
hey, it's me. The girl that went on a tinder date with brian.
her name is hay, will let SHE made this tiktok video about their date, which he said started with a movie and then when they got back to her dorm room, got strong.
Not and appropriately, just like trying to tackle me and like robb, my shoulders and stuff and I was like, why are you touching me or what are you doing and he would just like, a super serious and he's like, i'm not.
The Young woman said, you got out of the date by going to a bathroom and pretending to be sick.
He ended up messaging me on tender that he was gonna. And then about an hour later, he text to me and said, I had good birthday hips.
Odd perhaps, but to doctor brook, to the online posts, the social awareness hint at something deeper .
with individuals like this. What you tend to see are things like feelings of isolation, feeling pushed around by other people. And then at some point, the individual begins to experience very rich, intense fantasies of leveling the playing field.
In the fall of two thousand eighteen, ran kob ga. Than twenty three years old, and rode here to sales university, a private catholic school forty five miles from my own. And IT was at the sales that he met.
josh farro, this guy. I recognize them right away as new. And in the biology class, I said, hey.
you want to be my partner. And so they were partners on the lab project for a semester. Here's to find the report.
I took a photo of him looking at a microscope. I took a photo of him writing, I was like to stop laughing. I'm trying to take your photo this and needs to look good for the project. And he immediately turned IT off and he just dead pan and just post. He posed for the photo so seriously .
remembering colberg for rail. Use those words again, odd, awkward, and also a bit of them know at all.
It's his way the highway don't mess this up and will have no problem.
The sales was also where colberg a met this classmate named medicine.
I would always catch him staring at us to her .
and her classmates. Cobber wasn't scary at all, just a loner who was a little different.
I didn't take IT in a creepy way at all. IT was just kind of like one of those things that he did that we were like, okay, it's just brian kind of being brian.
Brian coburg a finished his bachelor's degree in two thousand and twenty just in time for the start of the pandemic. And so when he decided to pursue a master's degree in criminal justice, his studies were all online, which we will bring up questions later about where he was all that time and also what he took away from his studies.
Under doctor kathline range land, one of the nation's leading authority, is on the subject of serial killers, one in particular denis rattle, the killer who called himself B. T. K.
I saw the rainfall in name, and I was like, seriously.
It's a piece of the mysteries surrounding brian coal burger, what drew him to the study of criminal justice and in particular to her class to sell the university day's doctor's caston ramsa and told deadline that he would not speak to us about cobo. But SHE did confirm that in the classroom, teachers on the subject of extreme violence, a class coburg took one of her books is required reading.
It's called confession of a serial killer, the untold story of denis rattle, the B. T. K. killer. hello.
In twenty twenty two, rams appeared in a document series about her book speaking on the phone to do so. Your fantasy lab is more important to you than your real life. That sounds like, well.
I just to agree, I was B, T.
K.
stands for bind, torture, kill. The nicknamed rather gave himself to toy with investigators during his decades long string of murders in one thousand nine hundred seventy four to his arrest in thousand and five. You are denis elf radar.
Yes.
he is serving ten consecutive life prison terms. And this is his daughter, kerry rossum. Did you have any idea whatsoever that your dad was doing that stuff?
No, there's no way we would have known. I mean, if we had had any idea what so ever, the very first thing you would have done, what have been ran out of your house .
and got to the police Carry, is a victim's advocate and the self described survivor when to do to your life, this discovery.
everything he was like my best friend, is unfathomable.
IT still doesn't .
make sense this many years later.
in an offer to understand her own trauma and her own father, Carry became something of a self educated expert on the subject of murder diversion books about serial killers, including, of course, that one written on her father's case by a doctor ramsen brian ol. Berg's professor. What did you think when you first heard that he had taken classes from her, from the person who rode a book about your father?
IT hit close to home. I saw the rams name, and I was like, seriously.
that cover ga would have been studying. Her father's life was strange enough, but coburg ers field of study criminal justice was very similar to her father's. My dad was .
literally committing murders and then going to school at night. So he was literally talking to the investigators that were investigating his own murders .
in the kerry rosson said. Some of her dad's problems were evident as a teenager, even to himself.
My in high school, he tried to go on date, but he was kind of awkward, and then he would get really fixated on a woman and make her uncomfortable.
B, T, K. Felt rejected by women. So by all reports did brian colberg.
it's not uncommon for men who commit serious offenses, particular against women, particularly involving murder, to have experiences rejection by women that they sort come to see as a collective mass that doesn't appreciate them, or that they have a kind of generalized disdain for women.
Brian ol. Berger, in june twenty twenty two, brian kob, gr. Received his masters degree and criminal justice from the sales university. But before he completed his studies, he posted a research survey on reddit.
Survey was filled with questions for convicted criminals, questions like, did you commit the crime alone? Why did you choose that victim or target over others? And you secretly committed felony? What is the likelihood that you would feel remorse about breaking the law? Was IT part of his course work? We don't know, but it's all intriguing for forensic psychologists like dark or gary brocail. I think the .
ideas that they represent a blueprint of what IT is he wanted to understand about himself.
In july twenty twenty two, four months before the killings on king road, brian ol. Berga pointed his soon to be informal two thousand and fifteen White hund elantra toward the town of pullman and its washington state university and riding along as he across the country, deadline has learned, was an item that we play an outsize draw in his future before he received his master's degree from the sales of month before our source tells us police have found the brand coverage, went online and visited amazon that calm to buy a couple of items.
A knife, a kabar advertising is the best fix played knife in the world for hunting, sporting, military and a knife sheath. Long time FBI profile. A great Cooper has a theory. What does that say you about the kind of thinking that had gone into this fancy?
He's been thinking about committing crimes for a long .
time with that night?
absolutely. He has to become familiar with IT feel IT eased with IT coburg .
and that knife travelled twenty five hundred miles until he reached his new home and poleman washington and washington state university, where he would study for his doctorate in criminology. Is that the kind of place where a person would .
want to go to do A P.
H. D? Yes, IT is. This is retired fb. Gennifer coffin fever, he is followed the case closely.
Not that many schools have all three levels, you know, the bachelor's, the masters and the P. H, D. And it's pretty well regarded.
So perhaps that reputation is what drew cob, ger west, or maybe something else.
Whoever is to committed these murders, it's like being a casting agent that goes out to find someone who looks the part.
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One thing the police already know about brian colbert is that he was interested in what they did, in fact, in the spring of twenty twenty two, seven months before the murder, about the time coburg, our source tells us about that k bar knife on amazon. He also interviewed online for an internship with the poll.
Eman, washington police department police say coburg a had interest in assisting rural law enforcement agencies with out of Better collect and analyze tactical data in public safety Operations. Retired FBI agent, geneva coffin, ever. What does that mean? Oh, he wanted .
to get on the inside to see what all they could see. That's what I think.
Was that an internship related to his studies? Or was there a deeper purpose?
What are they looking at? What are they capable? Love that lands that only people from the inside of laender cement have.
But he didn't get the job. Instead, kob ga was hired as a teaching assistant for one of his professors. The class was called criminal procedures.
This is student hadden stinchfield. Throughout the semester, he kept grading us down like he just kept on applying PHD standards to our three hundred of a work. He graded them harshly.
Yeah, yeah, definitely. He one of the story is mine, and put down exactly what he would have said. no.
But cobertas activities were not limited to academics. IT was quite clear. Investigator is discovered that he was often somewhere else repeatedly. Police say coburg left home usually at night and drove the nearly ten mile stretch of highway between poland and another college town, moscow, home of the university of the avital, to a particular neighborhood just off campus where investigators believe he had found something he had been seeking since the murder.
Several questions have been devilled investigators, why is there a connection between brian coburn and the victims in the house? And how did he become aware of them? What may demand accused of their murder focus so strongly? Police were wandering on those who lived in the house on king road. The very questions doctor gary brook ado has studied in many cases over the years.
Whoever is the committed these murder, it's like being a casting agent that goes out to find someone who looks apart you home in on that individual. And the idea is to kind of live out a perfect fantasy, what you tend to see, our long standing fantasies, where there is a group of people or a type of person who was made, you feel slide and you fix IT on an individual that sort of fits the role in your fantasy.
That individual is the one for whom doctor bu cotto coined a new term and his research, a person he calls the prototype.
What I mean is who was the first person in this individuals life who rejected them and made them feel this way? And um sometimes the prototype even looks like the victim.
There are some obvious traits that jump out, right? Did cover ker somehow become, as many of speculated, fixated on neither Kelly gu n selves or net Morgan? And if so, why retired F B I profile a greg Cooper offers this possible explanation.
And they had a lot of social presence. He became aware of them at some point. And for him, I think they represented socially, everything that he is not.
And was locked out .
of absolutely.
K S friend. Caller wondered if v cobo, her, a crossed PaaS I and room mazda Carole, here at the mac greek restaurant in moscow, where the women waited tables. The restaurant offered vegan dishes and cover her was vegan.
I know for us, like we kind of believe that zana mai like worked at mad greek. We all thought that I was something happening from there.
That's one theory. Or perhaps the alleged killer spotted of the women in the house king road. Somewhere else.
You could discover somebody on social media online from a very great distance.
You suspect something like that maybe involved here, a stocking on the.
I think that there was definitely a long term stalking of at least one of these victims, and a kind of a peculiar sense of sharing and intimacy that didn't exist.
Again, we don't know if brian colberg harmed anyone, but we do know that he had interactions with police, including this one caught on newly released .
police body, cam body reported. No, I think you don't always stopped you. You are on the red light.
What actually happened was I was stuck in .
the middle of intersection. This video, released two weeks ago, shows copper being pulled over and pulled in a months before the murders for entering an intersection, then turning left after the light turn red. Never even that that was actually something wrong, actually just from a very rural area. So we just don't have crosswalks. I must like visit in area where there are crosswalk and then yeah, I do apologize if I was to asking you too many questions about the I wasn't trying to like.
no, no, no, not at all.
This time, singapore berger drove away without a ticket. But we do know that short day before this incident, kober got a traffic ticket in moscow just before midnight for failure to wear a seat bet. The ticket was issued in an intersection about a small and a half from the house on king road and now cover g's phone.
His electronics have told police that was the first of twelve trips kober made to moscow and the area near king road before the murders, at least once close enough to connect a house wifi. So now investigators are starting to look at other strange events around king road. And I found .
my underwear like shot .
there in the .
yeah and.
The thing is, there is research tones of IT. It's what profile is like great Cooper rely on in cases like the moscow murders. And the research is quite clear. They say that those who commit serial crime progressed through a series of predictable events phases in the years before the murder occur. They don't wake .
up in the morning and go out and committed crime like this. This is occurred mental or alongside all over a long period time. And so there have been most likely crimes committed in the past. Nuisance types of crimes that you'd expect.
As Carrie roman told us, her father, denis ratter, the serial killer known as B, T. K. Self, reported his own progression in that confessional book by a doctor. ramsen.
My dad talks a lot about, like early on by the time he was seven or eight, like window piping and wanting to be, like, collect women's laundry race, still that we know to with my dad, he said, with breaking and entering into his old school, like the time I was twelve.
Now again, the investigators who have looked into brand kuper is past, of course, not talking to us about what they have found, but there have been incidents in moscow very near to where the murders occurred, incidents that have certainly LED two questions. This is moscow police body cam footage from march twenty twenty two, a full eight months before the murder.
Police were going to a home that students called king cabin, its home to members of the alphabet. E siri, anyway, thank you. This Young woman's friend was about to walk outside one weekday .
morning and my of this up, and she's like you within the, and I was so case.
especially into the night before he had left IT packed with close inside the car. and.
Right side open all the stuff I had up here on my paste stuff, the stuff I had in the center council, my sunglasses I was literally wearing yesterday were all showed inside my success. And like, I was like, its back up. So everything .
that you had in your front seats was now in your suitcase. But even stranger, something that had been in her suitcase had ended up listen to this.
And I found my underwear, like.
show there and in the cup.
Er, yeah.
And I took IT out.
Yes, the Young woman's underwear have been taken from the suitcase and stuff ed in the cup holder at the time. And to these officers, the incident seemed a little significance and like a take. Recently, unlike we've had a couple of vehicle stolen, we've had people's cars get broken into one in a string of vehicle theft or attempted theft near the camp, except this one involved women's underwear.
Yeah, no. And even more iry. In the background of this footage, you can see IT the strange inside the car just steps away from the house where the murders would take place eight months later. Those facts alone at the experts we've talked to sit up in their chairs and they raise questions. Assuming that whoever did this was male, I wouldn't be surprised .
that there's a piece of underwear that's missing. I'd be surprised if there was not. It's personal, it's intimate, and IT allows him to also play mind games and create a concern and fear. To be clear again.
moscow police have not indicated any connection between brian colberg and this incident, which occurred four months before we know kobe, ga took up residence in nearby polemen, washington. So IT may, in fact, be nothing unrelated to the quite rule homicide case to come something else altogether. But here's what we do know.
This incident took place in march, and we know that every month kobita had already decided to a ten washington state had already applied for that internship with the pollen police department. And at the time, coburg a was finishing his masters degree at the sales in pensylvania. And those studies were all being done online. He could have been anywhere.
Oh, we can't rule that out. We can't rule that out because we really don't know where he was.
And there were more strange incidents in moscow before the murders. What we know that brian coburg was a student at washington. Stay lady, go leaving questions like who exactly attended these parties at the house of king road.
Things happened, odd things. Looking back, things involving brian koba at washington state university. As the twenty twenty two academic year began, colberg added to his studies, but the job is a teaching assistant.
But soon the new york times has reported female students complained that coburg er made them uncomfortable. One accused him of following her to her car. But deadline is learn new details of another incident that are disturbing.
Our source says coburg er had befriended a woman in his graduate criminal, gy cohorn. The woman had returned to her apartment one evening and found some things. Miss items moved from where she's left him in the kitchen in the back.
Quite bizarre. So what did you do? Well, our source tells us, since having had been taken, the woman did not call the police. Instead, he called her new friend brian colberg, who our source says, volunteering to come over and take a look.
And he soon recommended the installation of a video security system, and he cover her volunteer to do the work after the installation, our source says police believe that berger, if he was close enough to the woman's apartment, could pull up the cameras himself for a look because colbert knew the woman's wifi password. Our source tells us that brian colberg is now considered a strong suspect in the brain. Hearing that retired FBI profile greg Cooper offers this theory. What does that?
I would expect that he orchestrated the whole thing. He was not looking upon her as a potential victim necessarily, that he orchestrated IT so that he would come to him, that he would be able to help her. And IT IT is also another level of power and domination and control over another person, the hero, kind of image that you can portray. You've got this problem. I'm here to solve the problem for you and make IT Better .
for you becomes right .
in shining ARM. absolutely.
And if IT was brian colberg, IT was also, Cooper said, a way to raise the anti a step in the progression, meaning that going and to a house where the occupant is absent, the research on serial murderer shows anyway, can be a provide to next entering a house, whether occupant is present. If coburg did commit the r, which we must remind you again, he accused Cooper thea ized that in the days and weeks before carberry was surveilling the house from the art during at least some of those twelve chips, police say colberg made demos co.
He's a locker looking through windows, peering, surveilling, peeping. He has to engage in those kinds of things, are going to strengthening his is courage in order to commit the crime and committed successfully.
But Cooper's decades of experience in the field allow him to take his theories even one step further. You may remember this, the house on king road had been the regular city of large parties, and noise complaints like this one three months before the murders has shown on this moscow police body. Cam that is talking to the officer ladies has gone. Here's another party. Can september two months before the murder for this particular party, none of the actual residence was even present, although officers eventually did reach mati Morgan on .
the phone that. Once again.
Cooper, based on his experience, thinks the killer might even have enter the house during one of these parties to take a look around without any of the Young women who lived there even knowing.
I believe personally, that he's been in that house before. He knew where they slept. He knew who was in which bedroom. He shows up in the group of people and watches, monitors and imagine it's a very disturbing idea .
that a person would be a target of someone like that and not be aware of IT much. And investigators believe that for the killer, IT would all come to a head on a saturday night. In november, the unt was over the targets, acquiring.
November twelve, twenty twenty two. IT was a saturday and on the campus of the university of idaho in moscow, IT was game day. The vendors, as their known, would be playing a football game. Before the game, kEllie gunn services friend Kelly had to get together at her apartment just in front of that now infamous house on king road.
They came over like around noon, and we were all just like having fun talking, socializing.
Does your mind go back to that a day?
Yeah, I always like we play like the conversation that I had with like Kelly anzio, a SHE was talking to me and another friend of about something stupid and SHE brought up my random like cooking videos and just talking about like how much he loved them and how he thought I was so funny.
Yeah, you Carry that around with even now that was the last .
time you talk to.
Later that night, round nine, P. M. Kelly posted a series of photos on her instagram account, including this now famous photo of the five king road residents along with ana's boyfriend, in what would be the last social media post of her Young life.
Kady wrote one lucky girl to be surrounded by these people every day in the photo with Kelly and her lifelong best friend matt Morgan, zana, a note, and her boyfriend, east and japan, two more roommates filled out the frame dilling mortenson and bested funk. That's saturday night. D all had plans.
Isn anana were attending a party at the nearby sigma eye eternity house. Keli went to hang out of the corner club in downtown moscow, arriving sometime after ten pm. Three and a half hours later, around one thirty am, the two women left the bar together, walk a couple of blocks to a place called grub truck and got some food.
As you can see in this video, kay's father, Steve, and other Christie IT just kills me, knowing that they were about to walk into what they walked and do. They had no idea IT was about to happen. I precisely one forty nine am, one of the women called for a Young maternity member who'd been assigned to help drive home up for clash men and women to make sure they arrived safely, arrived of a little more than a mile.
They arrived at the house on king road at one fifty six A M kelan mati. We're doing everything right that night. They were together. They had a safe right home. They weren't out there.
You come back back from a club doing any risky y bit behavior out on dates that there was nothing.
Rome zana and her boyfriend Ethan were already back from their party and by two A M, all six, including roommates dulin and bethinking, were safely home but not yet to sleep. In fact, starting at two twenty six A M, Kelly and mei made a total of ten phone calls to Kelly former boyfriend, but no one knew at the time, was that just across the border and pull man police later revealed a cell phone click doff or into airplane mode.
The cell phone linked to brian cover her the time to forty seven A M. Six minutes later, traffic cameras caught a White alana approaching an intersection. And pollen police aren't releasing that video to us, but we know car got on the highway to mosco, where at around the same time, moscow police were answering a call, ironically, just a couple of blocks from where Kelly mattes and and so close you can actually see the house on king road.
This was the scene on an officer's body cam taking out twenty one. The officers investigated an alcohol related offence sitting here and you information here, that's all your information. And minutes after those officers left that White hand day along, tra, having police say been driven on that highway from pulman, damascus, appeared at this intersection less than two miles from the house on king road at three twenty nine A M.
Police say there was the first of several sightings of the White alan cha in the area of king road. Great Cooper believes that for the man behind the wheel, the dress rehearsals were over. This individual .
has the knife. He's capable and not just capable, but prepared. He's committed this crime numerous times in his mind.
At four or four A M. Investigators say video showed the White alone tra make its final turn on the king road. IT was the darkest dead of night the time, said dr. 点 gary brook to that is significant when something .
is done in the dark， when people are supposed to be sleeping, there is more of a sense of control over that. They are called off guard. They're totally ambushed. But I think on a deeper level, what we want to understand is, is that the psychology of an individual can commit an offence like this, is precisely the type to not want somebody to see them. The darkness and the, and all of that is used almost as a kind of a of a costume.
The stage were set, some would die, some would live, thankfully. But why and what could possibly explain that one frightened witness in all way apparently solve the cover up close and yet said nothing?
IT was just after four in a house, a block off campus on the street called king road. And intruder was about to cross the fresh hood, yet a knife. And inside the home were six innocent students.
You really get a sense of someone who went in there like IT was d day.
Investigators believed the killer entered the home through a sliding glass door on the second floor and quickly climbed the stairs to the third floor. To the bedrooms were medi and kEllie slept.
But I certainly believe that's where he commits his first crimes upstairs, so he knows where they are and he starts there.
We don't know which one was his first victim or his target. What doctor brook tt calls the retired FBI agent gentle fer com defer.
I believe strongly and always have that he had a particular victim and that that was either Kelly C N solve s or medicine mogan.
What would make them targets?
Well, they were beautiful vivus um the life of the party. And they were quite essentially the type of woman he could never have.
We don't know why kell's dog was left unharmed in another bedroom. All we know is that madi and Kelly were stead to death with what police say was a large fixed played k bar knife.
I do think that the particular type of weapon that was used in this offence would suggest an individual that wanted to get up close and personal with victims. You imagine a person almost kind of walking around with a box full of hate. This is the moment at which i'm going to open IT. So I think that the blade was chosen as part of of a fantasy. I also think of small blade like that might be seen as something of a flix substitute and an individual felt ty, he was an adequate with women.
And then the killers mistake. Somehow he dropped the knife sheet exactly like this one, a chief with a snap. Or investigators say they would later discover touch DNA is .
pure speculation. But I found myself imagining that if he came from his hands, perhaps in that moment, glove wearing, obsessional insecure guy was able to take the gloves off and experience those offences purely and fully bare handed.
Why leave the sheep behind? Why would that have happened?
A person can zone out kind of blip out of reality. That is, a kind of person that under a great deal of stress pumping with a drennen, you can easily see making a goffs like that because of a little associated blip.
Police believe that after killing kelya ei, the intruders went downstairs to the second floor intending to leave the house, but encounter zana, who was still awake. SHE had just ordered dordick was still using tiktok.
We don't know enough about the crime, seem to suggest how that contact occurred or or not. Somebody steps outside because they heard something. They step outside the bedroom.
They confront him. Rome dillion in her room on the second floor, told police he thought he heard crying from zan's room. And then a male voice says something like, it's OK. I'm going to help you. Does that say anything to you .
in terms of his mo, he's attempting .
to control .
the victim to, uh ensure in the victim's mind that he's not there hurt but to help SHE won't scream SHE won't run away and so he as a result of that gets the kinds response and reaction from her that he needs to maintain the power control over to successfully finish the crime up after .
killing inzana. Police say the intruder, who may have been surprised by easter's presence because he was visiting overnight, then stabbed him to death too, unless both bodies in the bedroom.
they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and that's why he killed them.
And on the killers way out, something strange. Dillon told police that as he stood in the door way to her room, a figured clad in black clothing in a mask that covered the person's mouth and nose walk toward her. He said he was five, ten male, athletically built with bushy eyebrows, and that he walked right pastor as he stood in what he called a frozen shock face. Did the gillers even see her?
He could have been kind of zoned out. I think the point is, is that he would have been frustrated that he didn't go precisely according to the way he visioned IT. Have to imagine somebody like a movie director that has a vision and is irritated that his actors won't do things the way he visions them, so that IT didn't go according to plan. IT probably got a little botched .
at four twenty A M. Police said sixteen minutes after the car was last seen on security video, IT was caught again on camera, leaving neighborhood at a high rate of speed.
I think he would have felt const, I think he would have felt devoid of that rage that had been building in him, and finally felt a sense of sort of being clean.
I mean, the idea of doing cleaned after killing someone is just a, it's a horrible idea. What would the active killing them? Me, this, these Young women.
oh, revenge of complete dominance of of them not being able to say no that he was going to take their life.
Twenty eight minutes after the a launcher was seen leaving king road, a phone linked to brand cover was, police said, turned back on at five, twenty seven, eight. An hour after the murder, the car was seen on surveilLance cameras back in poleman, washington, and the man and investigators believe was at the wheel. Experts believe he was on a high, unlike he had ever experienced.
The really frightening thing is that for an offenders like that, the first kill is like, we would think about the day our first child was born, or the day we got married, or something like that. It's the day you become what you are. The fantasy is played out.
And for the individual, they become something in their own ice. And it's terrifying to think of IT that way. But that's how that kind of person would feel.
But what would explain movements a few hours later around the scene of the crime, what was going through the mind of the driver of the Whiter altra and was the killer soon suggesting ways to solve the murder that he himself committed?
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As sunday morning dawn, students on king road in moscow were sleeping in as college kids do without any clue what had gone on overnight. But investigators now believe that less than four hours after returning home to poll men after the murder, brian coburg er was back in moscow. Cell phone record show that at nine twelve A M cobertas phone once again for nine minutes linked to towers covering the house on king road.
What he was thinking or exactly why he was there, we cannot know. And once again, brand code ga has not been convicted of anything that's IT doctor gary brook to, who has interviewed hundreds of violent defenders, told us that a criminal will often return to the scene of his crime as a fulfilment of fantasy and to bask in the ultimate forms of control and possession. I would taking a person's life be a form of possessing them.
because you would be bound together forever. In history, when john wilkins booth killed lincoln, you can never look lincoln up again without seeing the name of john wood's booth. It's the ultimate form of having control over where they are all the time.
Oh my.
that's very dark. Well, that's what you learn when you talk to offenders.
IT was nearly three hours after cobertas returned to visit king road when the nine one one call was made to police. How did you find out .
what that I had received a text and a call from one of my friends, and he asked to me if, like I knew, anything was happening on cars. There was cop cars everywhere. I texted Kelly to ask if SHE was OK, but he never responded back.
And then a couple of hours later was when kind of found out everything that went down that day, like we were all in shark. So I guess in my head, just like there is no way this is real. We just saw them.
Ninety miles of moscow in the town of retreat to Kelly parents found a law officer at their door.
He's feel.
say, yeah, I went into complete shock, absolute complete shock. I, I, I couldn't cry. I couldn't think Christian, Steve's daughter Kelly and her best friend mady were, of course, among the dead.
And we just thought, how can this be, especially since Kelly had just moved out of the king road house before graduation and was due to leave soon for a trip to europe and then take a job in texas, but that we can. You'd gone back one last time to moscow to hang out with her friends. I mean, I had hope that something had got fun, bold, or something had got next step.
But i'd turned the TV on, and I saw the house, and I was like, its seven twenty two king road, and I saw Kelly and maddie car in the driveway. The rest of the victims parents were notified matis zan's ethon, and an indescribable grief and fear spread across the campus. Did you go right home or did you stay at the school?
What you do think after yet a couple of days, I went home and I wasn't sure if I wanted to .
come back in those first days after as investigations of moscow pd idle state police and the FBI descended on the scene across the sideline of W S U, A certain T, A return to class, the one who'd been grading so harshly, A T, A named brian coburn, er, who now seemed to at least one student to act differently.
And Hayden infield wonders and retrospective, that change had anything to do with the murder, or was IT just cool incidence? At a certain point? He started just giving everyone one hundreds, and he stopped a leaving notes.
That definitely was a before that day. And after that day that you could see to the outside world, those first days of the investigation were discouraging. Police weren't saying very much internet crime sales fill the void OK. So I keep going back about if there's one suspect or if .
there's multiple suspect.
unchecked and unrestrained true crime fans, second guest and then innocence as possible suspects. We just got another major puzzle, peace. Even brian coburg is old college classmate that can pencil ana criminal justice major josh for started doing tiktok on the case under the name psychological smooth. Hey.
what's going on, guys? Jush, I just found myself getting sucked in to IT and really engaged with this community. I did a few lies on tiktok, where we had a psychologist join the link. I just thought that was a cool thing.
Authorities did release one important piece of information. The murder weapon was, they believed a large fixed blade knife, but commanders were constantly criticized for mixing messages, not saying enough, seeming unsure in front of the press. There is A A threat out there.
Still possibly. We don't know. We don't believe this can to be anybody else, but what no one knew is that investigators had in hand that knife chief left on the bed where madi and Kelly were murder, the chef, where crime lab technicians found touch DNA. No one outside law enforcement knew about that chief, except, of course, the killer. What might he have been thinking once he realized that he left the chef behind?
I think he would have bothered him that there was an imperfection in the fanta. A sense of perfection is power and control over the situation.
Perhaps that's why, after the murder in one of the many online discussion forms that popped up for true crime fans, a character appeared going by the name of papa Roger. StrAngely, the profile for in hindside, of course, reminded many of brian cobra. And on november thirty, seventeen days after the murders, pop Roger wrote to the group of the evidence released.
The murder weapon has been consistent as a large fix played knife. This leads me to believe they found the chief. Remember, police hadn't talked about the chief publicly at all, but pop a Rogers had, and in a couple of others too. How odd.
No information that pop, Roger and these people intersected in any way. But IT was just interesting to me to see that other people thought along that line as well.
I think a lot of us watch a lot of crime. There was the idea that somebody would have left a chief behind is never come up. And anything i've ever red or watch .
to heard .
this is just one reason. A source tells us that investigators are now convinced that the man behind the pop Roger profile was brian kober. One has puzzled about this. Why do something that may wind up giving you away, which apparently contributed in some way, is the believing that he was the killer.
You would have an individual that had such a need for control and that eatin cal drive that they wouldn't be able to resist, even at the risk of their own incarceration. They would be incapable of controlling the desire to reach out into the world and say, ha, ha, you know, I did this gone exactly.
but that got a part. IT wouldn't be long before an altercation with his professor would cause brand cover or his job as a ta. And when he left to head home for the holidays, he was in for a bumpy ride.
This your car OK .
cool where you headed.
Yet had been more than three weeks since the murders in moscow, when authorities issued an alert, felt like the first big break on the night of the murder. Around three forty five, A M, A gas station's surveilLance camera a mile from the crime scene had captured grainy footage of what was later determined to be a White panda, a launcher. When you saw that little bit of video, the White car driving by what happened?
Oh, so significant. Who else is driving bed at that way to speed at that hour of the morning?
Police nationwide would soon behind the lookout for that car. And then, despite the dragnet, a week later, no one noticed that a White hunt, a long trip, pulled out of the parking lot of the step to village departments on the campus of W, S. U.
Important inside brian colberg and his father Michael had flown out to make a long drive back east with brian for the holidays. Not a sole and launch cement was inside when the a launcher began a rather curious route to pensylvania, rather than taking the more direct routes, according to google maps, police say the cover kers dropped into color to where a license played. Reader caught the car and then hit the east, and thus added about five hours and two hundred and eighty eight miles to their trip.
IT was a couple of days into that trip on december fifteen, just east of indian apple. Is that one might think some nerves may have yet. Hello, all driver .
for .
time getting see your car. Okay.
cool. You headed bran .
was pulled over not once, but twice in less than ten minutes for following traffic too closely. Warning of the it's been why be reported that those stops were orchestrate by the FBI, which many of claim was most assuredly trAiling the coburg ers during their entire trip across the country of the f eyes, as that is not trial.
And in fact, well, police were looking for a White elantra at this time, our source tells us, police said, not yet connected cover gers White, a anta to the crime scene. And as for those stops in inDiana, well, tonight we can tell you what really happened on that highway. Our source says those officers were doing routine drug. Inter diction is work in which officers are trying to watch the behavior drivers and behavior is very likely why brand cover a got pulled over.
What you're looking for is erratic or unusual driving behavior.
sudenly changing lanes or something.
changing lanes, speeding up and then, you know, putting a vehicle in between the low enforcement vehicle and their vehicle so that.
our source tells us, is why coburg was stopped. And after the car was pulled over.
when everybody gets pulled over, their worried that they're gonna get a ticket or, you know, oh gosh, you know, how long am I gonna here? And so when they find out they're going going to get a ticket, the kind of relax and everything is okay. But with people who are doing something wrong, they remain stiff, they remain intense.
Oh, OK.
my view was the father acted as you would expect, but brain copper did not. He was still very uptight.
Brian cover is driving behavior, got him stopped, but one stopped. Well tense. His behavior was not enough to set off alarms for the officers looking for drugs or to keep the coburg ers from going on there. A. Day after those traffic stops, friday, december sixteen, the elantra arrived at its final destination.
All brides fill penny vania ninety miles north of philadephia, where police say brian colberg got his a launcher service and began some odd behaviors like wearing latex gloves, even inside the family home and back in I to hope the investigators finally caught a very big break. DNA from the knife sheet found at the crime scene had been analyzed by forensic genetic genealogists. A law enforcement source told us the geneology st.
Suggested investigators focused on a particular family tree. Nbc news reporters definitely gosch. Our source tells us they got a list, a small enough list, that they got a name, a name in the immediate family of brian coburn. The cops went at the hyper drive two days before Christmas.
I used that DNA information to obtain a search warrant for brians cell phone records and found a treasure trove records that reveal those repeated comings and going to brand coburg s phone to king road, including on the night of the murders and record showing coper ger owned at two thousand fifteen White hundred a ancha, just like the one seen in that gas station surveilLance footage a mile from the crime scene. Around the time of the murder, together with a DNA, the police finally had their suspect. If they had not used that forensic iology, they might never have identified him. His name gave him the cells one number, and IT wasn't until they got the cell phone number that they could put the cellphone and the car in the neighborhood. At the same time, the news was tightening and you're about to hear a story that's never been reported, how the fast movie investigation had even brian coburg s family feeling the heat.
Across the bogan OS in pensylvanicum families we're celebrating IT was Christmas eve 2， and the cover g's home and all brides fill was no different except they were different. According to our source, investigators learned the following. One of branch's two older sisters home for the holidays brought up an uncomfortable topic.
The sister had noticed brian had been wearing lay tex gloves SHE thought IT odd at at some point the sister quite loudly pointed out that at the time of the murders in moscow, brian had lived just a few miles away involved, and that brian drove a White alone tra a car that born enforcement across the nation was looking for. Add that to the gloves and the sister said he thought the cover her family should consider that brian might have killed the four students in moscow our source, he says, brian father said, no, he didn't believe that. But then our source says several members of the family actually went outside to look for evidence and bry's White alanna, and they didn't find a way.
But but then police had already observed brand cleaning the car with bleach. We reached out about this to want to turn he close to the family. He told us the family would have no comment as Christmas came, went FBI agents were watching the pool berger home at pensylvania an on december twenty seventh.
They pulled trash at the home and flew across the country to the idaho state lab for testing. They got the results the next day. The DNA that they got, they're realized, was from the person who was very, very, very likely to be the father of the person who committed the crime.
Now we know bryan cobertas with his parents, so the DNA that they pull, they suspect, is his father, the father of the person who committed the murder. Just days later, on december thirteen, approximately one thirty A M. IT all went down.
Dozens of local, state and federal agents descended on the copier home. And what agents moved in IT may not surprised you to learn brand cover. Her was awake. He was, according to a prosecution, standing in the kitchen wearing latex gloves, putting his personal trash and as zip block bags to be taken. Our source says to the trash can n of a neighbor, what did you make that?
Well, I made of that that he was protecting his DNA. He was basically worried.
Brian colberg was under arrest. The news was breaking this morning. We had been told that a person of interest taken into custody as the day went by. Everybody learn more what I can tell you, what an individual study. And when josh, for our first, saw the suspects mug shot when .
photo popped up, I said, I know that guy. Why in the world do I know this guy?
Then IT hit him. IT was his old biology lab partner at the sales university, brian coburn. Er.
like that isn't insane to me. Absolutely insane. I just checked my phone because my, I I know I had this guys number. I know I have his email. I have IT all still in .
my phone in an idaho. Kevin new, when was home and boys? Y, when he got the news.
I was very relieved, just because we knew what i'd happened, like who he was in, like that he was arrested. Just a huge feeling of really.
Please a search one come to the door. Hours after cobertas arrest, poleman police served a search word on his apartment. Among the findings on a pillow and mattress cover in cover go's bedroom, police say two red stains that later tested a presumptive positive for blood later that same morning, and coburg appeared before a judge, one of his lawyers reported that coverage, said he believes he'll be exonerated within days.
You've been flown back to pollen, then driven to moscow for his first idaho court appearance, charged with four counts of first degree murder and one kind of burger. The maximum alty for this is dead and or imprisonment for life. Do you understand? yes.
Held without bail in the latek county jail, colberg were told, is in what the jail considers solitary, single cell, no contact with other inmates. I keep wondering what his life must be like in in a jail cell. You've have enough clients to know, oh, things go for them.
It's miserable.
Defense attorney jim C, B, who has no direct involvement in this case, has visited that jail hundreds of times in his career.
I practiced forty four years, and I joke with people that I might have spent as much as between six months in a year in jail myself because i've had to prepare for trial many times down in a jail. It's so depressing for me, and i'm meeting .
with them in a library council. You get to go home. And that again, colberg has not been convicted of any crime and is presumed innocent, but doctor gary brook, ta believes, based on his decades of training, experience and conversations within prison offenders, that coburg is likely different from other inmates charged with violent crimes.
I would imagine that there's A A lot of probably watching every drop of press that is possible to watch.
We do know that cover ga is receiving a lot of sale, which is rerouted. A source tells us to his lawyer's office, and his lawyer then decides what coburg sees. And among the items addressed to cover ga, it's been reported, are many letters from female of mirrors. Over the past few years, an entire genre entertainment has sprang up around the idea of dating inmates, convicts, x cons.
so easier in prison.
None of this surprises Carry rosson, whose father, B, T, K, serial killer denot, or has many female advisers, just like brian coburg.
there was a whole edit group that was shut down. And these coburg fans, there were women building shrines to coburg, like with flowers and cr knives and photos of him.
And I just trouble, I can understand a lot of strange things about the way human beings behave, but that's one that I do not get. I mean, k bar and knives and flowers.
you're like, hey, he's innocent until approving guilty and he's like a good guy. But I had dealt with that for eighteen years with my father. So I ve dealt with these women contacting my father.
As for brand kuba, just days ago, we learned that a grand jury has ended ted him on four counts of first degree murder and one counter burglary. So what now? When might his trial be? What penalty might he face? That's one of is very popular. And I know I understand is that likely that this will get a hard look as a definitely case?
For months, all allies have been on this course in moscow to here. In june, brand coburg was expected to make his first major court appearance, a preliminary hearing with witnesses, testimony, evidence after which a judge would decide if the case against cover her should proceed, a many trial of sort.
And then then IT was suddenly cancelled, because this past tuesday, a grand jury that had been meeting in secret and hearing evidence against coburg issued an entitlement on one counter burglary and four counts of first degree murder, federal, idaho d defense IT. Turn a gym. C, B.
Did IT surprise you. The prosecution decided to go this way. No.
I was surprised. Didn't do IT earlier or sooner. Pretty common for grand juries to be convenient in idaho on on bigger cases.
What's the standard when a grand jury is looking at a possible and it's the .
same as a preliminary hearing, it's probable cause is a reason to believe that a crime is committed and that this person committed IT. I think there's a practical move. I don't view IT as a tactical move as much as just something where they can just move on the case.
What's in the entitlement? And what new information does IT contained about the evidence against colberg? We don't know yet. Why hasn't the public seen statement yet? Well.
just because I think IT just follows the tradition of secrecy. Y, that when you have an indication is supposed to be unsealed in a certain way, I expect you will be able to see the on monday when the IT makes IT in the court for his arrangement.
At that, a rain mate, brian coburg, is expected to stand before a judge under a plea to the charges named in the endangered. And then that's been almost very popular. And I I understand is that likely that this will get a hard look as a death mentally case? Well, i'm certain that would how long does the prosecutor have before he decides whether or not it's a definitely case?
He has to give the notice within sixty days of the arrangement or entry of a plea.
No word which way the prosecutor is leaning. But since colberg is arrest, idaho's governor has signed a new law giving the state the option to use a firing squad and executions. If I cannot find the chemicals necessary for lethal injection. Still, the trial and any sentencing phase, if IT comes to that, could be far down the road. How long to thank you to be before he appears before a jury?
I'd be very surprised if I was less than a year.
In the meantime, investigators will continue to look into coburg er's past to see if he can be linked to other crimes. They found some curious items. For example, in search warrants, police reported that in colberg s home, in pensylvania, in bran's bedroom, were told inside a latex club, police found two I D cards I S belonging to two women and not our source tells us not the women who are among the victim's on king road. Were the other targets yeah.
other targets are the potential targets, I think just the way they were hidden, and i'm going to call IT hidden because your average person would not hide an ID in this fashion. So I think they might have some significance even if it's not to king road.
no matter who they belong to. The victims in this case are many. One of coburg sisters we have confirmed has been terminated from her job in the mental health field. No word on why. And his parents.
i've really, quite honestly feel for them. I can't imagine being a mother and looking at my son and believing he killed four people are was capable of that.
Kerry rosson, the daughter of b tk, knows some of what they're going through.
There are probably just trying to grapple with what is happening now.
Take you a long time to somehow convit yourself that you weren't responsible for what happened.
I don't think you're ever gonna ever let that go the rest of your life and you don't get to walk away from and IT never ends. You just go forward because there's really no other way. You you just do what you have to.
And in moscow moving forward, meet the university conferred posta certificates and degrees, a matte, Kelly, zana and ison. This is a moment for us to acknowledge the contributions they've .
made and celebrate their .
academic achievement. Soon, the house on king road will be torn down, and somewhere close by on campus, we'll put up a sign, a black, a place together, so the victims will be remembered as the years go by their names. And what happened here, one terrible night on king road.
sometimes, like my photo, memories will pop up on my phone, all wake up and all finds like videos of, like Kelly and she's like dancing and singing, zana, just like smiling, just like random photos of mum.
what happens inside in your heart when you see that pop up?
I think like IT hurts so little because I get my heart and like in my head, they should still be here, you know?
That's all for this edition of deadline. We'll see you again sunday at seven six central. And of course, i'll see you each week night for nbc nightlight news. I'm lester. Hold for all of us that nbc news good night.
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