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Trump Is President, What Should We Do?

2025/1/21
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David Gornoski: 我认为川普是一位表演艺术家,他的成功与他过去的经历密不可分,这其中包含了他对自我和个人魅力的掌控。很多人只看到他的表面,却无法理解这些经历是如何塑造了他今天的形象。他是一位艺术家,而非刻意的意识形态者,他直觉地与人生艺术史相连。 政治提供选择,人们不应将政治仅仅视为游戏,也不应将政治人物视为游戏中的角色。仅仅通过支持政治人物无法实现目标,要真正参与改变,需要行动而非仅仅支持。沉迷于社交媒体是浪费时间,帮助川普赢得选举并非通过社交媒体,而是通过实际行动。成功的关键在于匹配合适的人选以实现目标,在于发挥自身潜能,并抓住机会,在于相信自己并信任宇宙的力量。 川普的成功是一个励志故事,但他只是普通人,不应将其视为化身。尊重历史人物并非盲目追随,盲目追随并不能带来进步。群体思维会阻碍个体行动,拥有住房是人的基本权利,高额贷款阻碍了人们拥有住房的权利,长期贷款奴役了人们,阻碍了社会进步。人们应该能够轻松拥有住房,而非被债务奴役。 医疗保健应被视为神圣的艺术,而非赚钱手段,高价医疗服务有悖于道德,医疗保健应以尊严为本,而非以盈利为目标。文化转变需要榜样和勇气,真正的医者应以人为本,而非以盈利为目标。自由不应成为剥削他人的借口,应警惕医疗保健领域的剥削行为和过度治疗行为,应摆脱医疗保健领域的恐惧心理。医疗保健应以治愈和服务为本,而非以盈利为目标。人性并非一成不变,应不断进步,人类应不断进步,向神靠近。 基督教徒应团结一致,实现共同目标,应避免内斗,专注于共同目标,应关注爱,而非内斗。群体思维会影响宗教信仰,基督教信仰是活的,而非静态的。解决住房问题需要多方面努力,高昂的房价阻碍了社会健康发展,高利贷破坏了自由社会,债务损害了人的道德和完整性。解决住房问题需要个人的努力,而非仅仅依靠总统。川普的成功也离不开运气和恩典,应客观评价川普,而非盲目褒贬。应独立思考,承担责任,建设需要战略性和目的性,应以耶稣为榜样,进行建设。应摆脱旧的宗教观念,应关注耶稣的教诲,而非政治结构。基督教徒应团结一致,向世界展现上帝的启示。政治自由取决于耶稣的教诲,耶稣的教诲具有政治意义,但并非暴力革命。应关注创造性解决方案,例如廉价能源,应关注对社会有益的议题,例如食用油。仍有很多工作要做,应专注于解决实际问题,而非沉迷于游戏,应关注解决实际问题,例如廉价能源和住房。应积极行动,解决问题。

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The speaker discusses the entertainment aspect of Trump's presidency, comparing it to a video game where people vicariously live through his actions. He cautions against solely focusing on this entertainment value, urging listeners to engage in real-world actions to make positive changes.
  • Trump's presidency is compared to performance art and a video game.
  • The speaker emphasizes the importance of real-world action over simply liking tweets or engaging in online battles.
  • Trump's success is analyzed through the lens of the 'personhood revolution of Jesus'

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So a lot of people were excited about what happened with the election. People are really buzzing right now. So good feeling for a lot of folks. And, uh, you know, Donald Trump is a fellow, uh, you know, lover of performance art like myself. He's someone who knows how to get in the arena and he couldn't got to where he is today. If he didn't experience the savagery of the arena of professional wrestling.

This is something that a lot of his admirers, they can only see it from afar, but they don't understand what the real impact of that has been in shaping the man you see today. A man who at 77 years old grabs a saber and starts dangling it around like a crazed general. This is something that takes true mastery of oneself and one's charisma.

and confidence in a way that the sycophants and the tribal folks don't understand. And that's okay. You know, the average human person is not meant to be Mr. Wild, you know, charismatic visionary. That's not the role that human beings were at all. They couldn't function if everybody was playing that visionary world of the creative artist. But Donald Trump, first and foremost, is an artist.

And, you know, he's not what you would say, like, you know, someone who is a deliberate ideologue, but he's someone who's intuitively in touch with the art history of life. So there's a lot of folks right now who are excited about what's going to happen. And politics, of course, you can look at in different ways. And one thing that I think is important to look at with politics is that it's, you

It's something that gives you options in terms of what you can get out of it. I think folks who look at politics the wrong way, they look at it like a video game where, and we all, it's fun. It's part of the game of it in some way.

which is you watch these characters, and if you like Trump, that is a character that's very endearing to you to various degrees. You can kind of slip into his avatar on screen, and it's almost like playing your character in a video game. You select...

You select your favorite Mario Kart character or whatever it is for some video game you like, and you get to go through these journeys and live out the experiences through this person. So when he makes a reporter look silly or answers a question in a fun way or something, you get to feel like you did that.

And you know if he beats his opponent or has a quick comeback you get to feel like you were part of that And you got to beat you know it's and it as a showman experience that is Very interactive when it's done. Well, I mean it's always that way but when it's done Well, it's kind of very inviting to want to play in that world the problem with that is is

is that if that's all you do with it, you're not doing what it means to make America great again or make America healthy again. In order to do that, you have to incarnate action in your own life. Really, truly, you know, lead or have the humility to know that you can't lead and help other people who do lead in various different ways that actually tangibly make things better.

You know, having having this kind of wait and see, let me see what he's going to do now. You know, I've heard people say now we begin the fight. What is the fight? What exactly is the fight? Just liking his tweets. That's I mean, yeah, I mean, that's great. You know, you think you're fighting something, liking a tweet. OK, you're in a video game.

Okay. But if you're, you know, if you're following a different game, like what we do, talking about the personhood revolution of Jesus, the master of history, we're different. We're doing a different thing. And where there's alignment with what Trump's doing with that bigger vision, there's a lot of fun that we can have, you know, but we have to stay focused on actually being in the physical world, not in the illusion. Right.

And that means stop spending your time, you know, battling hobgoblins on social media. You're wasting your life. I've seen so many people spend how many decades on one platform alone every day of their life, like Twitter, you know, and every day just, you know, you know, they grab that phone and they start trying to get in on the latest grift and making a T-shirt.

And, you know, just going on and hitting likes and replies with little memes and everything. I mean, I saw that firsthand when I actually, I actually, and my friends who helped me, we actually made, including Sir, we actually made a historic impact to help Donald Trump win the election.

And we didn't do it by liking his tweet or attacking, you know, the enemy other, the little tribe that was battling, you know, our tribe or whatever tribe, you know, that kind of game. We didn't play that world. We actually, you know, did something outside the box, which made perfect sense. And that is matchmaking Ron Paul and Elon Musk together. The Trump administration saw that.

And they tried to meet it with Vivek and Elon. Didn't have quite the same ring to it as the memes we birthed into reality with Elon accepting our offer and Ron Paul accepting our offer. This is a vision that I had to put the best man for the job of actually credibly cutting government. No questions, no strings attached alongside Elon.

And that would be Ron Paul. We put that in motion. That got Ron. I mean, we don't know the full measure. We have to do some research, but it's got to be hundreds of thousands of votes that help shift for Donald Trump in the clutch moment. That's called a clutch victory. That's the kind of stuff Michael Jordan and those greats knew how to do. They knew how to pull out energy out of nothing and win 20 extra points in the last two minutes of a game or something. I mean, that's the kind of stuff that you got to,

You just got to come from divine cosmic energy when you're in tune with the universe and what God wants you to do with it. And there's infinite opportunities that God is willing to let you play in, but you got to have the confidence and you have to have the trust

that that's even something you can do. If you think, if you think that the opportunity for creative interaction and creation is very scarce and very hard to come by, you'll, you'll have a life that reflects that. And so, you know, I would just urge people to not spend their time trying to, you know, you know, you know, live vicariously through Trump. That is a fun video game and a TV series to watch.

But if that's what your primary focus is, and that's what you're feeling you're going to fight this problem, that's not going to work. Okay. Right now, Donald Trump, one of the greatest comeback stories, like all the other, you know, mimetic statements have been saying undoubtedly. Right. And I called it every step of the way from an anthropological standpoint, understanding the personhood revolution of Jesus and how the more they scapegoated him, the more they tried to martyr him, the more he became more powerful, right?

And we've called that since 2015 and so forth in 2016 and so on. And I've said it through the years. And here we are. He's won more than it's a storybook. I mean, really like an 80 story, but truly, truly beyond coincidence, how it all came together so epically. Now, however, you know, Trump is a person with human free choice. He's not a God. He's not a, he's not an avatar. Okay. So, so expecting him to,

to be your avatar for what you need to do in your life to do better is going to get you in the wrong. You're not actually respecting Trump, right? If you want to respect Trump, you want to respect these great icons of history. It's not by sycophantically being, you know, a person who just lets go of their agency and just is a tribal predator. I mean, there's always going to have a role for that.

but it's not very useful in real history you know tribal parators don't invent the telephone for god's sake you know just don't do that you know they don't they don't heal botulism you know they don't they don't make a movie about elephant man like david lynch you know that's you know tribal parators are great but you know they usually often get it wrong in violent ways

That's why Jesus was always trying to get away from the crowd. Cause it was like smothering his energy to do the right thing. He still loved human persons, right? But the crowd is different from human persons. The crowd is its own beast. It's its own animal. Everybody's always trying to come up with some little gimmick to try to explain what's the cool new thing or trying to chase the new trend. That's all part of the, that's all part of the, you know, the waste of the house of mirrors that is the crowd. Um,

So that's that's what we're that's what you know, we're always trying to position the framework of our audience to understand Is that very dynamic? You know one of the other things I wanted to touch on you know is some of the things that people are really gonna have to Solve for themselves. Okay That would be you know having the ability to own a home. Okay, it is a human birthright under God and

to be able to buy a home in a free society without having, you know, insane criminal Babylonian level lending attached to the process. Okay. When you have to be stuck with a 15 or 30 year enslavement to money created out of thin air and swapped around with all these kinds of insane inhuman interest rate games,

That is not the hallmark of a sane society that's human-oriented, okay? And that's why, you know, liking Trump is almost, if you do it too much, like a video game, it will numb you out, the anger and the pain and the frustration of the fact that you're stuck in a 30-year enslavement trap. That shouldn't be, okay? You should be able, in a normal, sane, human-person-oriented society with freedom and liberty and dignity,

Be able to build a home for a young family or have a home in some way that is able to house and develop and nurture a good, healthy young family. You should be able to do that without being enslaved to some criminal cartel of debt games and debt playing around criminal behavior.

So that's something that has to be done. And that's not going to be something the president's going to be a wave of magic wand. It's going to take real people really rethinking how they do things. Another thing that needs to change is our whole attitudes towards healing. Healing is an art. It's a sacred art.

And I don't care if you're in the alternative world. There's a lot of people in the alternative world in various different camps. They spend all their time trying to charge $500, $700 an hour to try to help severe sick people with not a lot of money. This is not something you can do in good conscience, in my opinion, if you are imitating the personhood revolution of Jesus, especially with all the people who are poor out there, all the people who are struggling to just get by.

to feed their families, to give their kids some time of stability with a stable home and so on. Something to look forward to in the future. These are things that you have to keep in mind when you talk about healing people. You have to heal people with dignity and not chase money to heal people. That doesn't make you a socialist. That's a stupid dialectic that doesn't need to exist. You should be able to heal people

without charging insane amounts of money. Now, if someone has a lot of money that they can give you, and I'm not saying to impose this by state coercion. That's just stupid. Again, dialectic. It's our attitudes and our cultural change that has to take place. You have to have some king forces. Role modeling has to be done with human beings and culture imitating how it can be done. Having the courage to say, you know what? I'll give an example like Dr. Ray Peet, the late, great Dr. Ray Peet.

He did not ask people to pay him by the hour. He would try to help people. They were sick and they needed desperate help. And he didn't ask them to join his club. I mean, he did tell people, yeah, I've got a newsletter if you want to help that and read that. There's a very fair, very, very cheap price. Okay. He wasn't pushing some stupid protocol ideology.

you know, and grifting and shilling for nihilism. He just helped people like a human being. That's what a true master of history looks like and talks like and acts like and treats people. Healing is an art. It's a sacred art. That's about the human person. It's a ministry and it should never be treated as some stupid, profane, you know, money grab, you know, and just because you have the freedom to be a sick, disgusting person, the way you treat people doesn't mean

that you should engage in that freedom. That's what Christians and conservatives and libertarians and everybody else has to get their minds around, you know? Is that just because something doesn't have to be enforced by the law doesn't mean you shouldn't do it, you know? So these people are saying, it's either socialism or it's free market health care.

And then free market health care means, you know, you know, giving people sick care, poison, trash medicine, symptom masking garbage. Or if they go into the alternative world where there's a lot of bogus BS there, too. But if they do get to something that actually works, they get people trying to sell them $200 of stupid supplements every month and stupid products.

you know, like soul crushing protocols of like measuring every milligram of every atom that ever goes into your body. What a, what a sick demonic hellscape that is. And I understand some people have to do that for a time if they have a severe illness or something that's really strikingly needed to be, you know, like something's going on, but only for a small season, not for the people's lifestyle. And that, that whole spirit of fear has to get out.

That spirit of fear that animates people, you know, measuring the nanograms that go in their body. That's not what God designed free human beings to live like. Ray Peet didn't live like that. Nobody should, you know, like model that as something to imitate. Okay. That's just a spirit of hell.

OK, we're going to help people where people are. And it's got to be with a spirit of healing and ministry and sacredness for the human person. Not, you know, just another, oh, I'm going to exploit this guy, you know, genius ideas and try to like make some stupid mannish grift off of it. You know what I mean? Manna is in a sense of like nasty, trashy, just sleazeball grift.

I mean, yeah, you're going to have that. It's not like, you know, you can eliminate that by force. It's just the lower resolution of humanity. But we have to rise up because we have to understand that humanity is not static.

Humanity was designed to evolve and grow into the likeness of the divine transcendent God that sustains everything in the universe. That is our active role. That is our active journey in history. And I don't know how in the world that got, you know, I know how, but it's just still a shock to me how so many Christians should be the top people speaking about this. And yet they're the ones, again, that,

tend to have their own kind of learned helplessness about, well, it's all going to go down the drain. That's about what you can do about it. And every time you'd say, John 17, what did Jesus say? One of the greatest breaking of the fourth walls we've ever seen in any, it is the greatest breaking of the fourth wall, John 17. And Jesus prays to God, his father, he says, above all, I wish that they would be one as you and I are one. What's that mean? That's exciting. What does that mean?

He says it over and over again. I wish that they would be one. And the word he said, and then a lot of people like to try to put their dumb us versus them violence back into that text. Cause he says, I don't want them to, I don't, I don't pray for the world, but for my people. Right. And they say, Oh, that means it's our special boys. Yes. That we're all going to go to hell. Yeah. They love that. That's how the peoples are more in love with who's going to get roasted and burnt and

like a marshmallow, then they care about the love of Jesus. They don't give a darn about it. They care about being in the right tribe and hanging out at the right cool table, whether it's online or in person, and saying, aren't we so better than the other tribes?

That's not Christ. And yet Jesus prophetically demonstrated that that's what his church would oftentimes be predicted to do, even though he told him not to do it. He kind of, he like prophetically embodied that problem when he talks about, you know, his disciples in that story, you know, fighting over who's going to sit at his right hand. That was kind of like a precursor of what we've always experienced in human history. You know, I'm the real church. No, I'm the real church. In other words, I'm sitting at the right hand of Jesus. That's what they're saying. All these different factions.

I'm sitting at the right. He literally like has a story in there just for those who have ears to hear. Right. And you can't have ears to hear if you're caught in the crowd, because the spirit of the crowd can infect even that which is holy or religious. In fact, that's where it comes from. Whoa. But that's why Jesus said, behold, behold, I make all things new. Not behold, I make all things a historic antique shop.

Okay? I'm tired of Jesus being treated like a historic antique shop, like a mausoleum of what our heritage used to be or something. No. It is alive. The Spirit is alive. And behold, He makes all things new. And you are invited to participate in it because if Christ is in you, you co-participate in that creation. Now that's beautiful. That'll change the whole world.

And that'll make your cheaper houses so you can have a home if you live that out for everybody. Things we've never even imagined about how to make a home. Like, I don't know, watch the Amish and somehow deregulate zoning laws and everything else. These crook fools, much of which is part of MAG and Republicans too. What's Ron DeSantis doing to really dramatically cut the housing prices? He's got a lot of boomers and special interests that like their $700,000 inflated home.

They don't even have any concept about how to make it affordable for children who are, you know, 30, 40 years old. They're going to spend a million dollars to have a small, poorly designed home because they've been systematically demoralized aesthetically in our construction industry. It's a racket. Even Peter Thiel, Peter Thiel is worth like $20 billion. And he said the rent's too high in Florida. Come on. How can you make America healthy again if you don't have a place to put your home, put your head down, lay your head on a pillow at night?

That's not healthy. Babylonian compound interest is not healthy. It's not compatible with a free society. It needs to go back to Babylon. Anybody who promotes that, the Bible has a word for it. It's called a whore of Babylon. You're whoring out for Babylon. Babylon had a lot of great people probably, but they also were kind of like the home of compound sick interest, which has still infected people thousands of years later.

And Jesus was very warning against don't have debt. Debt corrupts the ethics and the moral integrity and the full capacity of the human person to be their best, to thrive, to see the zest of life, and then collectively to create a species better, making it new again, being co-participants in the divine life of God himself through Christ.

That means having a home. He said, you'll do greater things than me. Don't you think one of the low-hanging fruits of that would be able to be able to house people without having to be enslaved to predatory debt? That's how you make America healthy again. That's how you make America great again. And those are things that you can't wait for some king like Trump to fix it. He can't do it all. He's just a human being. You got to tap into something greater, a greater power, a longer-lasting power.

That's some of the best aspects of Trump, or when he does tap into that, whether he realizes everything he's doing, intentionally or not, about what he's doing, there's a lot of grace and unearned favor and merit, unearned mercy and grace that's been given to Trump throughout the years to allow him to have the opportunity to shine his great talents. And you can't even mention that name without some people either just sycophantic, their eyes roll back,

Like a reptile, they say, he's all good. Or they say, he's all evil.

And they just can't handle reality. Reality is you got to be an adult. You got to think critically for yourself. You got to take agency into your hand. And it's even common. It's become a trope. People parroted and copied my message and said, well, you do got to build something. Now it's like a low resolution of something I've been saying for years. People say it's not enough. You know, they kind of say like a low resolution, not enough. Just talk about politics. You got to build something. Okay. Well, what do you, that again, that's sloppy, lazy. What do you mean build?

You know, I mean, yeah, in some sense, yes. On one level. Yeah. Just building is good. Build a birdhouse. It's a good experience. Right. Being a part of like just the process of creation. OK, so let's be favorable and generous in the spirit there. But, you know, if you want to build like build beauty, then you need to think strategically and intentionally about how you build beauty.

beauty and glory in the name of Jesus, right? And that means if you want to imitate Jesus, think like a king in the way Jesus would think of things in an inverted way, not in your favorite king of history, Napoleon or Caesar or something's way, but the way Jesus kind of subverts all of that and figure out and try to understand how to do leadership from the perspective of a creator who comes into a food trough

when he shows up into history, when he crashes into history, his inaugural ball is not a glorious thing with $2 million plates. It's a food trough. And yet 2,000 years later, his biggest so-called followers are still more bedazzled by $20,000 plate balls than they are a food trough. And that's because it takes time for folks to shed their old time religion

which is paganism or whatever word you want to call it. Jesus called it cosmos in that passage. That's why going back to John 17, he called it cosmos, which is the political structures. Ephesians 6.12, the same principalities, that whole concept. That's what Jesus said. I'm coming. I'm not coming for that. I don't want that because that's our failing. It's our construction that has to be dissolved. He's coming for uniting the people.

unifying the people. He says, above all, I wish that my people would be one, as you and I are one. And then he makes a prophecy, right? A lot of people don't identify this as a prophecy, but it's pretty clear that it is. He says, when they are one, the whole world will know that you sent me, that the Father sent Jesus. So he's giving you a clue that your task is to find a way to unify with all Christians,

and bring millions and billions of new people into the Christian personhood revolution so that the whole world realized the divine revelation that God sent Jesus and that he is the king of history. And to the extent that we fall into his way of doing things is the extent to which we can have great masterful progress and we can actually be free from tyranny. Tyranny and the liberty movement, all the different things that people have been entranced

and transfixed by in politics. It all is downstream from Jesus's personhood revolution. That's why his mother, upon hearing that Jesus was going to be coming into her womb and what that would mean, she makes a political message. Okay? This is a very political-oriented movement from the beginning. And it's been, you know, that politics of it has been pushed aside for various human movements

you know, centric reasons to justify not taking the political implications of Jesus correctly. It's not a, you know, revolutionary ideology to allergically overthrow all power in some violent revolution. No, of course not. That's victimism, and that just got totally exposed recently, but a lot more needs to be exposed there. But no, it's about doing something even more

better than that, which is using creativity, like innovating and building homes, creating energy too cheap to meter. Look at this seed oil thing, man. I was the only guy in talk radio, broadcast, iHeartRadio, major market stations, and podcasts and all that other, writing at different websites, talking about seed oils in a political context.

And I was doing that every day. I wasn't the first to talk about seed oils. I'm not saying that. That would be dumb. It's just not true. But I was the first one pushing this on a political basis to a mainstream broadcast audience and why it was so important to get that right culturally and all the effects that would have. And now look how far it's come.

So we got a lot of work to do. We're going to keep at it. And I'm still getting over this nasty little bug or whatever that messed up my throat. But I did want to have this time. So thank you. Thank you, sir, for putting this together. Thank you for anybody who's seen this and just doing a little test run here. But we'll be back with regular content. And maybe we'll try to do some more live streams and stuff. But guys, I'm not going to be playing video games, OK? If you want to play video games, that's fine. Look, I know about video games.

And I can beat a video game if I need to. But we've got work to do, okay? You want to fly spaceships on a video game? That's fine. I want anti-gravity, okay? I'm very restless in those things, right? And I'm restless at finding the answers for those things. 24-7 energy panels.

uh elemental transmutation anti-gravity affordable homes for everybody without having to have debt to do it uh buying beautiful cars without having debt to do it you know that's what we need you know that's what creates the ability to freaking think and thrive and then like fully receive the joy of the lord in a more effortless way so let's do it all right let's have some fun

And that'll be great. We'll do a lot of fun. And Trump, you kind of owe me there. I gave you 100,000 at least extra votes probably with what I arranged. So we'll be talking at some point, I'm sure. So best of luck to you. Godspeed. Thanks. Godspeed.

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