There’s so many times when cloaking is appropriate but in Google’s eyes, is it ever justified ?

When you go over the line, it's because you touched one single element of the content. But if you only touch the internal linking, the structure of the website, you can do, for example, a mobile version and a desktop version. That’s working, you’re delivering different content to the desktop user and the mobile user. It’s white hat cloaking because it’s only the internal links, not the outbound links.

The link mentioned in the podcast is https://www.in-cloaking-veritas.com/

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