We're sunsetting PodQuest on 2025-07-28. Thank you for your support!
Export Podcast Subscriptions
cover of episode How To Influence People: Marketing Secrets Behind The World’s Biggest Brands - Rory Sutherland

How To Influence People: Marketing Secrets Behind The World’s Biggest Brands - Rory Sutherland

2023/4/27
logo of podcast Deep Dive with Ali Abdaal

Deep Dive with Ali Abdaal

AI Deep Dive AI Chapters Transcript
People
A
Ali Abdaal
R
Rory Sutherland
Topics
Ali Abdaal: 认为在市场营销和生活中,人们常常因为害怕问看似愚蠢的问题而错过很多机会。他还指出,仅仅根据所需医生数量来限制医学教育招生人数,是一个错误的假设;拥有过剩的医学专业人才,可能在很多意想不到的方面带来价值。此外,他还谈到了英国医疗体系中存在供需错配的问题,导致一些职位空缺的同时,其他职位却竞争激烈。 Rory Sutherland: 认为具备良好的统计学理解能力在职场中非常有价值,并能帮助人们避免犯愚蠢的错误,理解探索-利用的权衡等重要概念。他还指出,许多受过高等教育的记者在统计数据解读方面存在严重的缺陷;错误的统计模型会导致严重的后果,甚至可能导致冤假错案。此外,他还强调了基本的统计学知识在日常生活中非常实用,是一种重要的技能。他认为,在分析数据时,应考虑各种因素,避免仅仅关注单一因素或忽略其他因素;收集到的数据如果具有代表性不足,那么得出的结论也会存在偏差;数据的可靠性取决于其代表性以及未来与过去的相似程度。他还指出,中等水平的统计学家比优秀统计学家多得多,而中等水平的统计学家如果过于自信,可能会造成很大的危害。 Ali Abdaal: 指出持续追问“为什么”能够帮助人们找到问题的根本原因,避免被中间目标所迷惑。他还谈到了将复杂系统简单化处理可能会导致错误的结论,例如“门卫谬误”。 Rory Sutherland: 认为“门卫谬误”是指将复杂问题简单化处理,忽略了某些因素,从而导致错误的决策。他还指出,技术应该增强消费者的选择,而不是限制消费者;复杂系统中,有趣的模式可能出现在任何规模上,因此不应轻视看似微不足道的事情;可以从超市积分卡等看似微不足道的事情中获得有价值的见解,并将其应用于其他领域;与降低税率相比,发放税收返还更能被人们感知和珍惜;在市场营销中,不应害怕关注看似微不足道的事情,因为重要的模式可能出现在任何规模上;看似微不足道的事情中可能蕴藏着重要的信息和规律;细节决定成败,精益求精的态度在产品设计和服务中非常重要;优质的服务体验往往体现在一些看似微不足道的细节上。

Deep Dive

Chapters
Rory discusses his education in classics and how it influenced his career in advertising, contrasting it with Ali's medical background.

Shownotes Transcript

💌 Sign up to LifeNotes here 👉 https://go.aliabdaal.com/lifenotes/podcast)

Rory is the vice chairman of Ogilvy UK, which is one of the biggest marketing and advertising companies in the world. He's the author of the book Alchemy: The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don't Make Sense and his TED talks that have been viewed over 7 million times. In the conversation Rory gives me a masterclass in marketing and advertising ,and reveals the marketing secrets brands use to change our perception of products and influence our behaviour. Enjoy :)

Sponsored by Huel - go to https://www.huel.com/deepdive) and with your first order you’ll get a free t-shirt and shaker.

Sponsored by Trading 212 - download the Trading 212 app https://trading212.com/promocodes/ALI) and use the promo code "ALI" after signing up and depositing to receive a random free share worth up to £100. This is not financial advice. Investments can fall and rise. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Other fees may apply*. Capital is at risk.

Sponsored by WeWork - visit https://www.we.co/ali) and use the code ‘ALI’ at checkout to redeem 50% off your first booking.

📚Check out my New York Times Bestselling book Feel-Good ProductivityAmazon )Website)

(00:00) Intro (01:52) University and your view on education (10:29) The power of statistics (23:30) You should always ask why (25:09) The doorman fallacy (28:40) Consumer psychology(32:33) Why you should dare to be trivial (43:19) Building talkability into a product (54:48) What got your interested in marketing? (01:03:33) How most businesses are optimised(01:04:06) User imagery vs target audience (01:07:00) How you become the perfect brand (01:08:33) Evolutionary psychology and products(01:16:00) The importance of longitudinal questions (01:18:16) Why new ideas are slow to take off(01:20:53) Rebrands and longevity (01:30:37) Brands lead to better products(01:32:24) What don't people like about advertising? (01:42:55) Psychological value(01:48:47) Happiness (01:56:44) Book recommendations  

🔗 CONNECT WITH RORY

📕 Alchemy: The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don't Make Sense - https://geni.us/TcHm5z) 🐦 Twitter - https://mobile.twitter.com/rorysutherland)💻 Website - https://www.ogilvy.com/uk/team)👥 Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rorysutherland/?originalSubdomain=uk)

🔗 CONNECT WITH ALI

📲 Join My Telegram Community - https://t.me/+bH5gLHty5kBiOGZk)🎥 YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/aliabdaal)🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/aliabdaal)📸 Instagram - https://instagram.com/aliabdaal)💻 Website - https://aliabdaal.com)👥 Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-abdaal/)

If you enjoy listening to the podcast, please do leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts) - even one line helps! You can also Tweet @AliAbdaal) with any feedback, thoughts from the lessons you've learnt from the episodes and we can thank you personally for tuning in 🙏

Want to start your own podcast? We use Transistor! https://go.aliabdaal.com/transistor)

Check out the episode on the Deep Dive YouTube Channel).

See privacy policy at https://transistor.fm/privacy)