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IN-DEPTH:The Productivity Trap (w/ Oliver Burkeman)

2024/10/17
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通过深度工作和数字极简主义等概念,推动人们重新思考工作方法和技术使用方式。
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Cal Newport: 本期节目探讨了生产力在深度生活中的作用,以及人们在追求效率时可能陷入的陷阱。Cal Newport与Oliver Burkeman就生产力系统、时间管理方法、以及如何平衡结构与灵活性展开了深入讨论。他们认为,过度关注组织和效率可能会导致人们忽略生活的本质,而缺乏足够的结构又会导致混乱和压力。因此,关键在于找到一个平衡点,既能保证生活井然有序,又不至于陷入效率的陷阱。 他们还讨论了如何应对工作中的压力和焦虑,以及如何培养对自身能力的信任。Cal Newport认为,时间阻断法虽然有效,但也可能导致身心俱疲,因此需要适度进行。Oliver Burkeman则强调了“不完美主义”的重要性,鼓励人们接受自身的局限性,并专注于完成最重要的事情。 此外,他们还探讨了任务管理和时间管理的区别,以及如何利用工具来辅助时间管理。他们认为,一个灵活的时间管理方法可以与严格的任务记录系统相结合,这有助于人们更好地掌控自己的时间,并减少焦虑和压力。 Oliver Burkeman: 作者认为,现代人往往试图通过各种生产力系统和方法来掌控生活,但这往往适得其反。人们应该认识到自身能力的有限性,并学会接受不完美。作者的新书《冥想之死》旨在帮助人们将理论付诸实践,并找到一种更平衡、更可持续的生活方式。 作者对生产力文化持批判态度,认为其往往强调效率和结果,而忽略了过程和体验。他认为,人们应该更加关注自身的需求和感受,并学会在有限的时间内享受生活。 作者还探讨了如何平衡工作和生活,以及如何应对工作中的压力和焦虑。他认为,人们应该学会拒绝不必要的工作,并专注于完成最重要的事情。此外,他还强调了自我信任的重要性,认为人们应该相信自己能够在不完美的情况下做出正确的选择。

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Cal Newport introduces Oliver Burkeman and his new book, "Meditations for Mortals," discussing the tension between productivity and a deep life. They explore the role of productivity, time management, and organization in achieving a fulfilling life.
  • Oliver Burkeman's "Meditations for Mortals" offers practical advice on balancing productivity and a deep life.
  • The conversation explores the tension between productivity systems and the pursuit of a meaningful life.
  • Burkeman's previous book, "Four Thousand Weeks," delves into productivity culture and its potential traps.

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In this episode of IN-DEPTH, a semi-regular interview series with people at the frontiers of deep living, Cal welcomes the bestselling author Oliver Burkeman to the Deep Work HQ to talk about his new book, MEDITATIONS FOR MORTAL, and more generally the tension between wanting to get your act together and becoming unhealthily obsessed with productivity.

Video from today’s episode:  youtube.com/calnewportmedia)

INTERVIEW: New York Times best seller Oliver Burkeman [3:40]

Links:https://www.calnewport.com/slow)

Thanks to Jesse Miller for production, Jay Kerstens for the intro music, Kieron Rees for the theme music, and Mark Miles for mastering.