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Jake Brennan: 身为父母,我经常在学校活动中与平时不会交往的人交谈,这让我开始思考人际关系的奇妙之处。最近,我和一位中央情报局创始成员的孙子聊天,了解到早期的中情局由常春藤盟校的学生组成,他们的父亲都是社会精英。这让我联想到我的祖父,他曾梦想加入中央情报局,但因为我祖母的希腊血统无法追溯到足够久远而被拒绝。这段家族历史让我对中央情报局的历史产生了浓厚的兴趣。我越深入研究美国文化,越发现中央情报局与音乐文化之间的联系绝非偶然,而是有意的。路易斯·阿姆斯特朗的例子就是一个明证,中央情报局利用他不仅犯下了谋杀罪,还在谋杀过程中颠覆了民主。我认为中央情报局是一个黑暗的实体,无论它可能做出什么好事。肯尼迪被杀是因为他打算肢解中央情报局,而水门丑闻更多的是为了掩盖中央情报局参与肯尼迪遇刺事件。我不认为所有艺术家都是中央情报局的傀儡,但至少有些人可能是。如果当年有人说路易斯·阿姆斯特朗参与了中央情报局的政变,肯定没人会相信。我认为中央情报局只是更擅长隐藏他们的行为,这引出了一个问题:从80年代到现在,哪些音乐家被中央情报局招募用于邪恶目的?我希望大家分享摇滚精神的故事,以保持摇滚精神的活力。最后,我想谈谈Sid和Nancy的故事,这是一个关于爱情和毁灭的悲剧。

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The podcast delves into the controversial history of the CIA's involvement in music and culture, focusing on Louis Armstrong's unwitting contribution to the death of a democratically elected official. The host speculates on the extent of the CIA's influence, questioning whether other musicians were also co-opted for nefarious purposes.
  • CIA's intentional connection to music and culture
  • Louis Armstrong's unwitting involvement in a CIA coup d'état
  • Speculation about other musicians being co-opted by the CIA

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This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after party.

Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject, Louis Armstrong. Also musicians who have been co-opted by the CIA throughout history. We're previewing our upcoming Valentine's Day episodes and

and we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it.

So one of the many fortunate aspects of being a parent is that it forces you into conversations at school events, you know, your kids' games or parties with people who you wouldn't otherwise socialize with. Your kids kind of force you to make new or additional friends. I'm not telling the parents anything they don't already know. I'm just stating this for those of you who might not have children.

And because this is how I found myself in conversation recently with the grandson of an original CIA member just the other day. It was a fascinating conversation because this dude's granddad went all the way back to the OSS. That's the World War II era version of the CIA before they had a name for it. The OSS and early CIA was made up of a bunch of Ivy League students whose dads were captains of industry and finance, defense, government, etc.,

That's where this dude that I was talking to traces his lineage. And I won't go into the stories that he shared with me that his grandfather shared with him, or I guess his grandfather shared with his father who shared with him, if I want to be 100% accurate. But as you can imagine, these stories are pretty wild. This encounter happened to me at the exact moment that

I was knee-deep in research on another Disgraceland subject for an upcoming episode that had me consumed with CIA history. It had me thinking about my own grandfather, who was a brilliant man and a veteran, a veteran of Korea, not of World War II, who tried unsuccessfully to join the CIA after the war. That was his dream. But he was denied that dream because the agency couldn't trace my grandmother's heritage back far enough through the years.

through her heritage in Greece, so my grandfather wasn't allowed to join the CIA. I guess the thinking was that they couldn't be sure my grandmother wouldn't turn my grandfather into a Greek spy or something. Now, back then, it was, I gather, admirable to join the CIA.

I don't share that opinion now. I might think it's badass, but I'm not sure I think it's admirable. But anyhow, I always thought this part of my family's history is what made CIA history so fascinating to me personally. The agency is naturally shrouded in mystery even for me on a personal level because of my grandfather or what my grandfather tried to do.

Anyway, whenever the CIA rubs up against the subjects we discuss here in Disgraceland, I get really interested. I used to think these were just random historical circumstances, but the more I studied the history of American culture, and let's be real for a minute, I launched Disgraceland recently.

back in 2018. So I'm now in my seventh year of having my head buried in books, reading about the history of American culture, not to mention a lifetime prior to that, reading and absorbing books and documentaries and films about American history. With all this research, you start to see connections and patterns. And my conclusion now is that the CIA's connection to music and culture is definitely

not as accidental as I once thought it was. It's very much intentional. Nowhere is this more evident than in this week's full episode on Louis Armstrong. The way the CIA used him is truly disgraceful. It was to not only commit murder, but to subvert democracy in the process of committing murder. That is harsh. Seriously, just...

I know it's hard, right? None of us are rock stars, I don't think. If any of you are, get in touch. Maybe we can talk. But seriously, none of us are rock stars. But just try to imagine you're Louis Armstrong for a second. And you wake up one day and you realize that you were completely played. You were played into unknowingly...

contributing to the death of an innocent man, a democratically elected innocent man. How would you deal with that? That's fucked up. The CIA, I don't care what good they may do and what sort of mechanism or apparatus they provide to keep the world safe. The CIA, regardless of any of that, is a dark entity.

JFK was killed because he was rightly, I believe, going to splinter the agency into a thousand pieces, as he said. And with the teensy, tiny little look that we've just begun to get into the JFK files, I'm beginning to learn that the Watergate scandal, incredibly, was more about keeping the CIA's involvement with the Kennedy assassination secret than it was solely about political subterfuge.

MK Ultra, the Beach Boys and Charles Manson, the Scorpions, Wind of Change and the Cold War, Bear Owsley and the Grateful Dead and the proliferation of LSD to American youth, Tom DeLonge of Blink-182 and UAP disclosure, Miles Copeland Jr. and the police. There's even a wild public enemy story about an East European communist influence campaign, a story I would have quickly dismissed 10 years ago, but now, I don't know, man. Patterns.

I'm not saying that all these artists were CIA cutouts, but I'm not saying they weren't either, or at least some of them. If you would have told an American citizen back in the 1960s that Louis Armstrong was part of a CIA coup d'etat, first...

Louis Armstrong was like Shaq, okay? He was that type of figure. He was beloved by everyone, pretty much. Big, jolly, wholesome. There was no way anyone was believing back then in the 1960s that Louis Armstrong was part of a CIA coup d'etat. Second, Americans at the time just flat out wouldn't have believed that their government, the American government, was involved in any way with violent, covert actions such as this one.

It wasn't until after Watergate, after the church hearings in the 70s, that Americans get to hear about all the awful shit that the CIA was up to in foreign countries. And for some reason, we took this as, well, the lights have been turned on and all the cockroaches are now scurrying back into the shadows and sunlight disinfects and the government rot is not to be seen anymore. We can all go back to just not thinking about the many deplorable ways in which our government has acted and just assume that they're going to stop doing it.

Newsflash, they didn't stop doing it. I believe they just got better at hiding it, which begs the question, which musicians from the 80s, from the 90s, the 2000s, from the now have been co-opted by the CIA for nefarious purposes? I don't know the answer. I'm not even really looking for an answer here. I'm just rhetorically asking this question because it's legitimately, that's where my head's at. Louis freaking Armstrong in the CIA. Are you kidding me?

My larger point is that this story of Louis Armstrong, it proves that the CIA is more involved in our cultural lives than I think we care to acknowledge. These sneaky little bastards have been fucking shit up for a long time. And I think that in the coming weeks, as more of these JFK files get talked about, as the entire treasure trove of 300,000 documents gets released, I'm not going to be surprised if we start seeing some bold-faced names that we were not expecting. Now, I'm not saying that's going to happen forever.

Okay. I have no evidence that that's the case at all. It's just a hunch. And, you know, I'm not even saying it's a particularly good hunch. All I'm saying is that the more I dig into history, the more I run into facts pointing to the CIA rubbing up against American culture, music history included. Okay.

But this JFK stuff, this is a couple weeks down the road. All right, we'll get to that. However, coming up next in Disgraceland, this week's Rewind episode on Sly Stone. We are timing this release with a much anticipated release this week of Questlove's documentary on Sly and the Family Stone, which all of us here at Disgraceland are very excited to watch.

Talk about a rock and roll animal. Sly Stone was a special kind of beast. I guess I would be surprised if Sly Stone was a CIA cutout, just to add that. Speaking of rock and roll beasts, speaking of rock and roll animals, I want your stories on rock and roll animalism, your stories from back in the day that best demonstrate the rock and roll spirit, that help keep the rock and roll spirit alive, that

preserve this dying genre that we love so much, rock and roll. You don't have to have been involved in a CIA coup. Maybe you just ran into the singer from King Missile at a truck stop at three in the morning back in the day and made some snide remark about his quote unquote detachable penis as I did. Or maybe you and your friends just saw Post Malone doing shots at your local bar last week. I don't know. It can be any story at all. It doesn't even have to involve you. It can be a story about a rock star that you read about or that you saw in a documentary that

blew your mind and that you want to share with the rest of us, email me at disgracelandpod at gmail.com or hit me up on voicemail or text 617-906-6638. And your story might be the story of the week here in next week's after party. But before that next week on Tuesday, we have our full episode on Sid and Nancy, and we are releasing this on Tuesday because Valentine's day is here.

And what spells love better than being a rock star and being so gonzo on drugs that you murder the love of your life? You think, you think. You're not sure though. That's the mind fuck of it. You're not sure if you killed the woman you love.

Because you're so fucking high. What a story. It's incredible. Punk rock, Romeo and Juliet. Make sure to celebrate Valentine's Day in Disgraceland with Sid and Nancy next week. And when you're listening to this episode, be thinking about the worst rock star couples in music history, or at least the most notorious, okay? That's going to be our question of the week. All right, I'm going to take a quick break. I'll be back in a flash with your voicemails, texts, and answers to last week's question of the week.

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All right, we are back. Just a quick reminder to make sure you Apple podcast listeners have auto downloads turned on so you're not missing any episodes. Guys, you know how to get in touch with me, 617-906-6638 to leave me a voicemail or send me a text at DisgracedLandPod on Instagram, X, and Facebook, DisgracedLandPod at gmail.com. I'm going to start with a text this week instead of a voicemail because this dude, I'm assuming it's a dude.

hits on about four different questions we've been talking about trying to answer. Just topics, I guess, in general. Okay, he starts with, Bro, the Owen Hart story is worse than it sounds. Vince McMahon continued with that evening's matches with Owen's blood on the mat. Watch the Vince McMahon series on Netflix. Okay, 302 here is talking about

The Death of Owen Hart. We were talking about strange celebrity deaths last week, and this one is one of the strangest. And I have not seen this. I started watching it with my kids. I'm glad I didn't continue. I didn't get very far into it. I need to see this documentary. But there's so much to watch right now. I have the Diddy documentary series on HBO to catch up on, which I'm doing this week. I have, of course, the Sly Stone documentary that I'm stoked on. I got to watch that as well.

And I'm going to watch this Vince McMahon series on Netflix because this story just sounds incredible. And it sounds like there should be some sort of episode on this just based on the way this guy died. It's unreal. He goes on to say Prince and Michael are apples and oranges. You absolutely cannot compare the two. I disagree. I mean, they're they're.

Of the same time, they're both massive icons. They're both part of that sort of same generation, first generation of pop stars who really understood how to use MTV and how to capitalize on it.

And their audiences, there was so much crossover. So I think you can absolutely compare the two. And then my favorite of this string of texts from the 302 says, "'Hot dogs over a dollar "'make me wanna punch babies in the face. "'When my kid played Little League "'and the hot dogs in the concession stand were over a dollar, "'no one paid more than a dollar when I was in the stand.'"

I don't know that we need to punch babies, but I hear you. Maybe we can get some legislation sponsored to just, you know, I'm not for price fixing generally. I'm a market guy. I believe, you know, let the market decide what something is worth.

but not when it comes to hot dogs, coffees, and cheap beer. They should all be under a dollar. And maybe we can get some legislation that helps us get to this sort of utopia that I've started talking about last week and that I can see you guys are interested in as well. 772 writes in, Hey Jake, 772 here, South Florida by way of Northern Wisconsin. My favorite band was and is Boston.

I think Brad Delp's story is fascinating and tragic. He was a genius. Lots of court cases and fellow bandmates, and also rumor of him secretly filming his girlfriend's sister before he tragically killed himself with carbon monoxide using two grills in his bathroom. Tom Schultz from the band Boston is another really interesting character. Highly educated, heir of the Polaroid camera inventory. Keep up the great work. You helped me get through the day. 772, I know about this story.

And I've long thought about telling it. And, you know, in Boston, in the city, Boston, this has been, this story has sort of been in the ether floating around. Nobody really wants to touch it. I think the Boston Herald did a piece on it. Um,

And it's a nasty story, man. It's a nasty, nasty story. And anything involving kids, I don't like to go near it just because, you know, it's, I mean, you'd be like, why? You cover cannibalism and you cover all these atrocities. And yeah, but there's just something about having your head in the abuse of children during the research phase. And then it's just too much. And then do you really want to sit through

30 minutes, 40 minutes, 50 minutes of that type of content. I don't necessarily. But this story is really fucked up.

for a bunch of different reasons as well. So maybe there's a way to tell it that wouldn't be completely gross and disgusting. I don't know. If you guys want to go down a wormhole, though, get into this Brad Dell Boston story. It's all out there. 617-906-6638. You can leave me a voicemail on any topic, question of the week, or just anything that's on your mind, episodes you want to hear, topics you want me to discuss. All right, let's hear from Kuba in the 614.

Hey, Jake. This is Juba from the 614. Oh, man. Miles Davis, one bad-ass motherfucker. This was my favorite. These two, this two-part episode was my favorite by far.

and I have listened to every one of your episodes at least twice. I will probably listen to this four times. It is written beautifully. It just flowed just like Miles Davis. I never knew about him playing the trumpet to the birds. And when you were describing that, it

It just, I could hear it. I could feel it. And it made so much sense. And how beautiful. Thank you, Kubo. Thank you, 614. I appreciate the kind words on the Miles Davis two-part episode, the rewind episode that we dropped into the feed. This episode is definitely akin to the Louis Armstrong episode.

Obviously, the genre, jazz, I mean, that's kind of like comparing a Ferrari to a muscle car, or in Miles' case, a Lamborghini to a muscle car. But still, they're in conversation with each other. And if you like that Miles Davis episode, you've got to check out the Louis Armstrong episode and vice versa. Also, I've said this before, I'll say it again, Matt Bowden, who mixes these episodes, produces them with me, crazy.

crushed the mix on the Miles Davis two-part episodes, as he always does. But these episodes here, the Miles episodes, are kind of like

You know, if I was walking down the street and someone ran up to me and was like, hey, what Disgracing episode should I listen to for the first time? I think I might give them these two. That's how much I love the way they came out. All right, let's check out this voicemail from Johnny in the 617. Hey, what's up, Jake? It's Johnny Vinyl, longtime brother. Just chiming in here on a complete unknown. First of all, I'm so glad that you went to see that movie and that you kept an open mind because it kind of bummed me out to hear you say that you just weren't an attempt at the Chalamet. But you know what?

Each to their own. I, like you, appreciate very strong opinions. So, you know, I was like, wow, can Jake, can he be flipped on this movie? Because I was convinced that you could be. So I went to see it with 12 other people. I went to see it with my brother-in-laws, my sister-in-laws, my girlfriend, and all of the kids. And the kids ranged from age 8 up to age 16, okay? Wow.

They were glued to that screen. They did not move from their chairs. They did not gab away. They were glued to that screen, and every single kid loved that movie, and every single kid got into Bob Dylan after that movie. My daughter owns the soundtrack on vinyl. She listens to it to death, and Timothee Chalamet was amazing. I'm a huge Bob Dylan fan. I'm very critical of...

the way he would be portrayed by anybody. My brother-in-law feels the same way. We thought Tim absolutely crushed it. We thought that Monica playing Joan Baez was amazing. We thought that just the cast was unbelievable, but I like that the movie stuck to the time piece. It stuck to the facts. It didn't try to over-dramatize anything. That is the way that a pure bio pitch should be done, and I hope that

Others learn the lesson of how a biopic should be done. That's all I got to say. Keep up the good work, Jake. Yeah, Timothy Shaman, Lamb of Ding Dong. He did deliver. Indeed. He was amazing. I stand corrected. I did not have high hopes for this film in part because I'm just not a big fan of that dude. Not some, I shouldn't say that.

I'm kind of indifferent to him and I didn't think he would bring a lot to the table. And boy, oh boy, was I wrong. As I mentioned in the bonus section of the after party last week to you guys, I went to see a complete unknown, gave my review, uh, Johnny, uh,

Yeah, man, I'm happy you liked it as well. And really great to hear that all the kids were into it because I've been thinking about bringing my kids, like I mentioned, to see this. And they're pretty young, but I think they would love it. It's funny, this past weekend we had house guests and...

I found myself in an argument about this movie with somebody who had not seen it, but who was not interested at all in watching it. Basically had the same exact sort of pre-critique that I had, just not looking forward to it. Just been burned by so many music biopics before and thought that this was going to be awful. Thought that Dylan was too much of an enigmatic character to actually be able to capture on screen anything.

But, you know, whatever. I hope I impressed upon this dude to go see the movie. I don't think I did. But Johnny, maybe he'll hear this and maybe he'll hear your enthusiasm as well. And that will compel him. Movie's great. You should all go check it out. And if you do and you don't like it, well, Johnny will fight you. Emma Lewis, aka at Miss Smurphy69 on X writes in, Hey Jake, I've been meaning to ask for ages, how many loops are on that MK1?

I've been listening since today.com and it got me thinking. I don't really understand the text. I do understand the question. MK1 and MK2 represent the type of loop, okay? The Mellotron is its own beast and the power of the Mellotron is endless. There are loops galore. And I read this text because Matt Bowden, I'm talking to you, buddy. You know what we got to do. Just dropping this in here.

One less email. Okay. You got it. Hit me up. Brooke McLeod Burks writes in on Facebook. Hey, not sure if you've done one on Howard Hughes, but if not check out this book, this all happened near where I live. Very convincing. The book is called boxes, the secret life of Howard Hughes by Douglas Wellman. And this is interesting. I was actually, I'm interested in this. I don't know that I'm going to ever do an episode on Howard Hughes, maybe for, for Badlands. Um,

I'll have news on Badlands soon, by the way. But I was actually reading last night, and again, CIA is everywhere when it comes to culture, and their involvement with Howard Hughes, fascinating stuff.

Uh, also this was in reference to the, uh, like I said, the teensy tiny little news we got on the JFK files so far. So Brooke, very interesting. I might just read that book, uh, just for, you know, the hell of it. And maybe it ends up being, uh, some sort of episode in the future. Thanks for reaching out guys at disgracelandpod on Facebook. Lots going over on going on on our Facebook page.

recently in the last month or so. Okay. If you're not following us on Facebook, if you're on Facebook and you're not following us on Facebook, you're really missing out. We're releasing a lot more content over there. A bunch of video content, a lot of which is not getting released on Instagram or anywhere else. So get over there and follow us at DisgracelandPod on Facebook. If you're not on Facebook and you're like, Hey man, I'm on, I'm on Instagram or I'm on Instagram

or I'm on Instagram and X and TikTok, and I just don't have the bandwidth. I get it. I get it. There's too many apps. I totally understand.

But I'm telling you, we're doing more on Facebook these days. And if you're like, hey man, Facebook's just for the old dudes, for the boomers, that's not true. It's not true. If you're Gen X, if you're a millennial, Facebook is the biggest platform on the planet. I'm not here to pump Facebook's tires. I'm just telling you that we've got a cool community over there and we're releasing a bunch of content over there. We've increased our follower count. We've doubled it actually in the last few months.

And we're going to keep releasing stuff, video content, I should say, music-related video content over on Facebook. So give us a follow. Penny Hambling Anderson writes in, hey, Jake, I am from the 801 area code and maybe the only one from Utah. No, we have more Utah listeners than just you, Penny. But I think I know what you're getting at. You're also saying I'm also...

She's directly contradicting what I was just saying about Facebook. Penny's saying, I'm also one of your much older listeners. Penny, you don't look that old. I'm looking at your picture here. You're aging yourself, and I don't think you should do that because you look pretty good, Penny. Penny goes on to say, I love your podcast and the stories you find on People are incredible. I don't listen weekly or anything.

But I fill up an SD card. Okay, Penny, this is some old people stuff here. I fill up an SD card with about 30 or 40 at the time and I listen in my car. So I hear them in alphabetical order. Lol. Sorry, I'm laughing at the lol. Not the order you put them out. Anyway, I love the crossover between Disgraceland and Badlands. Keep up the good work. Love you, man. Penny, Penny, I love you too. Like I said, news on Badlands coming soon. Thanks for reaching out, Penny.

Okay, the very young, the very millennial Terry Demron on Facebook writes, the Disgrace Slam podcast is one of my absolute favorites. I'm joking. I'm not joking about what Terry said or how old she appears to be in her Facebook profile picture.

But look, I don't care how old the listeners are or how young they are, as long as you guys are enjoying what we're pumping out. And I don't care what platform you're getting it on either. Just keep showing up, all right? I appreciate you. At DisgracelandPod on all the platforms.

You can hit me up anywhere. Gala Avery over on Instagram writes in response to our November 4th, 1995 nostalgia video, Rock-A-Rolla. Rock-A-Rolla right back at you, Gala. Thanks for checking in. Russell Schoetz III writes on Instagram, with all due respect, this is in reaction to our Debbie Harry interview.

video with Ted Bundy. No judgment yet. This isn't entertainment. Talking about disgracing content. This is one of the best distractions ever created to get the masses to look out instead of looking inward to find knowledge of one's own life. Know thyself. Hashtag know thyself. Russell, you got me. You figured it out. I am a CIA psy-op. Put here

to specifically distract all of you from looking in at what you've become. How dare you become what you've become? How dare you? You need to look inside. Free yourself. And as En Vogue said back in the 90s, your ass will follow. They, of course...

We're ripping off George Clinton. But hey, that's what the CIA doesn't want you to know, man. Wouldn't it be funny if I was a CIA psyop? That'd be fucking hysterical after all this. Love it. At DisgracelandPod on Instagram, X, Facebook, DisgracelandPod at gmail.com. I'm going to be back with your emails and the story of the week right after this.

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All right, we are back. This week's story of the week. You know the drill, guys. Story of the week by now. Hit me up. Let me know of some story of rock and roll animalism, the spirit of rock and roll, whatever you want to call it, the preservation of rock and roll, something rock and roll that has happened to you that you witnessed firsthand and or a great rock and roll story that maybe you heard from somewhere else. Okay, why do I have to be the one who's always telling the stories here?

You guys need to tell me some stories, okay? Hit me up. We'll gather all the stories together. We'll get this collective, this sort of preservation project that we have here in Disgraceland. And every week, I'm going to read one of these stories to you, okay? Disgracelandpod at gmail.com. On email, 617-906-6638 if you want to send me a text or voicemail. This week's story of the week comes from the 860 from a Disgraceland listener named Gloria.

I'm not going to read all of her message here because it's very long and I can appreciate that. It's actually a bunch of stories that she sent in. Gloria, you need to get your own podcast, Gloria. Gloria, kidding. Gloria tells this story. It's a really funny one about being trapped in a casino with Bon Jovi, the band, which, and she was a young girl at the time, but this seems like a time when Bon Jovi was maybe a little later in their career. And she was a young girl at the time,

Her dad was in the music business, which is how this came to be. She goes on to tell this story here. I have quite a few stories. Like my dad's radio station was the station who had Milli Vanilli performing when they had their track skip. And then she goes on to talk about how her dad was friends with Fabrice. Her dad really sounds like a character here. Sort of an older Silver Fox guy is what I'm imagining here from her many texts.

She says that her father has some stories too of summer jam in Rochester, New York with this girl in a band who asked for my dad to come to Niagara Falls with them. And my dad took them all in his convertible sports car.

and crossed the border. And turns out the lead singer of that band was a girl who was obsessed with my dad and her name was Fergie. Okay. All right, great. She goes on to talk about, this is why I wanted to read this to you. Last but not least, I have quite a memory of Lana Del Rey asking for my dad's phone number after a show. He was such a gorgeous and polite man, she said. Is he single?

And my dad was like, I love this. I love, because I love Lana Del Rey hitting on an old dude after one of her shows. I just think that's perfect. That's the exact type of story of the week that we're looking for. Thank you, Gloria. I appreciate it. Took a while for us to get there, but we did it. Guys, hit me up with your story of the week, disgracelandpod at gmail.com, 617-906-6638.

All right, guys, leave a review for Disgraceland on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. You know the drill. We send out some free merch, whatever we got lying around the studio, whatever happens to be in arm's reach. We appreciate the reviews. The reviews help drive discovery of the show, and that's super important. Aquaman470 over on Apple Podcasts writes this week, hey, do you love music? What about the stories behind some of the greatest cultural phenoms in history? You have found your new home. This is the place to be for

All the best stories about all your favorites. Thank you, Aquaman 470. Get in touch. We'll get some merch out to you. Over on Spotify, rpain16 writes, Jake, Disgraceland is one of my very favorite podcasts. Excellent storytelling. Even if I think that maybe an episode won't interest me at first, only because I'm not familiar with the subject or it's a genre I'm not into.

like this Louis Armstrong episode. It does not matter. I am sucked into the story every single time. Thank you for the great writing and all the work that you put into this. It's one of the highlights of my week. Thanks. Special shout out to Zeth Lundy for the great writing on that Louis Armstrong episode. R-Pain16, get in touch. We'll get you some merch. Guys, go ahead and leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We appreciate it mightily. This episode, unfortunately, is nearing its end.

For a lot of you, but not for all of you, okay? For some of you, the party continues, okay? We're going to continue the after party here, okay? We're going to go to that special secret room in the back, and we're just going to all sit around, kick back, having

Have a nice drink, as I used to call them, the asshole birds. Those were the birds that came up really, really, really, really early in the morning. And if you heard those birds and you were still up and you were still out, well, my friend, you are an asshole. So that's what we're about to get into right now, okay? We're going to go into the room with the asshole birds on the other side of the window, and we're going to just chat a little bit about some extra stuff here, some extra bonus content.

content for you all, for who are All Access members. And again, All Access members know that you get a lot of content and it doesn't cost a lot to be an All Access member. It's just $5 a month, okay? In my utopia, that's five hot dogs, that's five coffees, that's five cheap beers, okay? Five bucks a month. I'm telling you, man, what's a medium coffee at Starbucks?

it's gotta be five bucks, right? You get done putting all that crap in it. You're up around six, $7 for one coffee. You're not even going to drink all of it. Okay. You're going to put it in your cup holder. You're going to get behind your wheel. You're going to go for a drive. You know, you're going to spill some, you're going to, you know, you're going to, I don't know. You're not going to drink all that coffee in that medium cup.

and you just spent $7, $8, 12 bucks. You spent 12 bucks on a coffee. Come on, man. Five bucks to be an All Access member. That's all it costs. Get in here. You get the bonus section of the All Access after party that we're about to get into. You also get ad money.

free listening plus an exclusive Disgraceland episode, full episode per month. All right. That's a lot of content for five bucks. All you got to do to become an all access member is to go to disgracelandpod.com slash membership. That's my dog scratching her neck in the background. Can you hear that? Dusty, what are you doing? All right. I'm going to take a break. Back in a flash.

All right, we are back, guys. A bunch of cool archive episodes, as always mentioned in this bonus episode. Grateful Dead, Public Enemy, Lana Del Rey, Charles Manson. We mentioned Shaq. He shows up in the Kobe episode. An episode that has turned out to be quite controversial amongst disgraced listeners, to put it charitably.

Matt is going to, as always, Matt's going to have the episode information, episode number in the show notes on all these archive episodes for you to check out. So guys get into the archive, check out these episodes, go give them a re-listen. You learn so much more on re-listen. I know I do.

All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, I want your story. Call me, text me, hit me up on the socials with your favorite story of rock and roll animalism, a wild story about a rock star that you're aware of, or that you want to tell me that I've already told you that you know more about than I do. I don't know, a story you and your friends continuously talk about, maybe something that happened to you, okay? And in the process, tell me who you are, tell me where you're from, and how long you've been listening to Disgraceland. All right, number two, right now in your feed, our episode on Louis Armstrong. Number three, coming tomorrow, rewinding back to our Sly Stone episode number four, merch winners get

touch. You know who you are. Number five, remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And while that's a disgrace,

All right, this week's episode subject, Louis Armstrong passed away on July 6th, 1971. And here are the billboard charts from the day this musical icon died. Number one, it's too late. I feel the earth move under my feet. Carole King, last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, nine. Number two, Indian Reservation, nine.

The Raiders, last week, four. Peak position, two. Weeks on chart, 13. Number three, treat her like a lady. Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose, last week, five. Peak position, three. Weeks on chart, 13. Number four, rainy days and Mondays. Carpenters, last week, two. Peak position, five.

Weeks on Shark 8. Number 5. Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it!