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TL;DR: This week Ward Pyles joins Jim Tiller and myself to talk about a relatively unremarkable topic - people-centric security. We've talked about it a bunch but it's not until this episode that something finally clicked in my brain. When Ward talks about the data that security needs - see if you can pick it up too.

Also - I'm trying some new bonus content - the "After Show" which is a 2-5 minute post-show bit where we post what's said after the recording (usually) stops. I hope you enjoy it - check that out exclusively on our YouTube channel.

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DtSR Episode 646 - Ward Pyles on Human Centric Security for Real 35:33 Share

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DtSR Episode 646 - Ward Pyles on Human Centric Security for Real