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ELON MUSK: 'There are dead people working in government.' Speaks at Trump Cabinet Meeting on DOGE
2025/2/26
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Elon Musk
以长期主义为指导，推动太空探索、电动汽车和可再生能源革命的企业家和创新者。
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Will Walden
Will Walden: 我正在主持一个关于Elon Musk及其公司工作的播客。我们讨论了Doge团队的工作，该团队致力于修复过时的政府计算机系统，解决美国2万亿美元的巨额财政赤字问题。如果不解决这个问题，美国将面临破产。我们正在努力寻找节省开支的方法，目标是在2026财年实现1万亿美元的赤字削减，这需要每天节省40亿美元。我们的工作是公开透明的，并在网站上公布了详细的账目信息。虽然我们会犯错，但我们会迅速纠正。
Elon Musk: 我认为特朗普总统组建了美国历史上最好的内阁团队。我最近向政府雇员发送了一封邮件，询问他们上周的工作情况。这封邮件并非绩效评估，而是为了检查政府雇员是否仍在职。我们发现政府中存在一些已经去世的雇员，以及一些虚构的雇员。我们的目标不是随意解雇员工，而是希望找出那些没有尽职尽责的员工。我们会给每个人机会回复邮件，即使只是简单的说明工作内容过于敏感或机密。我们希望保留那些尽职尽责的员工，而解雇那些不称职或工作不重要的员工。
President Trump: 我对Elon Musk的工作表示支持，并认为内阁成员对他工作的评价普遍积极。
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Will Walden: 'So, we are actually taxable. It's ironic, but it's true. The overall goal here with the Doge team is to help address the enormous deficit. We simply cannot sustain, as a country, a $2 trillion deficit. The interest rates, just the interest on the national debt now exceeds the Defense Department spending.'
Will Walden: 'I'm confident at this point, knock on wood, you know, my wooden head, the got a lot of work there that we can actually find a $20 in savings. That would be a roughly 15% of the $7 trillion budget.'
Elon Musk: 'literally so uh and i do not give false praise this this is an incredible group of people i don't think that such a talented team has actually ever been assembled i think it's literally the best cabinet that the country has ever had and i think the company should be incredibly appreciative of people in this room'
Elon Musk: 'I think that email perhaps was misinterpreted as a performance review, but actually it was a post check review. Do you have a pass? Do you have a pulse and two neurons? So if you have a pulse and two neurons, you can reply to an email.'
Elon Musk: 'This is a should be anyone could accomplish this. But what we are trying to get to the bottom of is we think there are a number of people on the government payroll who are dead, which is probably why they can't respond. And then some people who are not real people like that, literally fictional individuals that are collecting patient. Well, somebody's collecting paychecks on a fictional individual.'
Elon Musk: 'In fact, literally just that would be sufficient. You know, I think this is just common sense. And what is your target number for how many workers and employees you're looking to catch? We wish to keep everyone who is doing a job that is essential and doing that job well. But if the job is not essential or they're not doing the job well, they obviously should not be on the public payroll.'
Deep Dive
Elon Musk explains his involvement in a project using DOGE to tackle America's enormous deficit. The initiative aims to identify and reduce waste and fraud within government spending, targeting a 15% reduction in the budget.
- Use of DOGE in government financial initiatives
- Addressing the $2 trillion deficit
- $4 billion daily savings target for deficit reduction
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