From Dishwasher to Real Estate Mogul: Jarek Tadla’s Inspiring Immigrant Journey
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Every single good deal I found, it was right here from the heart. Was it? I only make bad decisions in my head. Only good decisions in a relationship, in a business, everything was from the gut. I don't analyze shit. I don't listen to anybody. I just like, hey, that's a good property. And then because I believe so much in it, then my head makes it work.

And now, Escaping the Drift, the show designed to get you from where you are to where you want to be. I'm John Gafford, and I have a knack for getting extraordinary achievers to drop their secrets to help you on a path to greatness. So stop drifting along, escape the drift, and it's time to start right now. Back again, back again for another episode of the show, man. Like I said in the opening, it gets you from where you are to where you want to be. And if you are somebody that's out there, maybe trying to figure out...

You know, not just how to get ahead in business, but you got something holding you back. It's like in the back of your mind, you wake up and you see these people online and they're doing so well. And you think, why not me? And then you think is maybe I'm not good enough. Maybe I'm not strong enough. Maybe I'm not smart enough.

Maybe I'm suffering from a little bit of imposter syndrome. Well, if that's you, I got a guest for you today that's going to help you break that curse, going to help you break to the other side of that. This is a gentleman that came to this country as an immigrant, built himself a little real estate empire. And by little, I mean a giant real estate empire encompassing thousands of doors. Also through that journey, he battled with his own demons and he's going to talk about those freely today. He is the author of the upcoming book, Not Enoughness.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the program. This is Yadik Tadla. Yadik, how are you, buddy? I love the introduction, man. I was like... Dude, I say it every week. When people come in, I'm like, it's all downhill from there. That was the highlight of the show. Because you got to get a mother listening. You got to impress them. That's what we're at. You got to be mad. I was like, oh, whoa. I got you pumped up. That's a good start. That's a great start. So...

Man, you came to this country as an immigrant. You didn't start here. You're Polish. Yes. When did you come to the United States? 21. I was exactly short few days, 21. My parents won the green card, so that's how I got it. I was fortunate enough to come legally from day one, so I didn't have to struggle with all this stuff. Well, that's a question I wanted to ask. Obviously, it's nice. We'll hit it right at the top of the show, which is with all everything that's going on,

with the illegal immigration into our country right now. You as somebody that migrated to the country legally, like, I guess you would have to be conflicted about this. No, actually, at that time, I knew I won lottery.

Right. Like, even during the podcast, you will see me, I won lottery, and people are like, he really won lottery. I'm not talking money lottery, but just being able to come here and being legally, and they're being surrounded by people, like how much they struggle to live in this country, and they're going through the legal process and not being able to. You know, so that was the first lottery I really won. And it was a green card lottery. Yeah. And when I moved here, I...

I end up in my grand, my grand, my godson, Jesus, my godfather's, my godfather's house. We got there at 2 o'clock in the morning. He woke me up at 7 a.m., cut the grass, and let's go to school, you know, on the first day.

At four o'clock, they pick me up, go to the restaurant, wash dishes, and that's how my journey started. - Did you speak English when you moved to the country? - Not at all. - Not at all, not a lick of a word. - Not even a word. I think probably I knew some passwords. - Had you gone to university? Had you gone to school in Poland? What had you done? - Well, in Poland, I did high school and then I did university, and then I stopped because I moved here, and then I continued education here. So I finished college. First I did English second language, and then I did associate and bachelor in Sunnybrookwood.

Okay. But I graduated quickly, so it was like three years because I got some credits from Poland. Yes. So that's why I graduated in three years. Okay. So what did mom and dad do? What was their profession? Dishwashers. We were all working in a factory washing dishwashers. In Poland, they were high-end executives. My father was, yeah. But you see, my parents moved for us.

For us to have a better life. So they really stepped down completely. You know, they're being like, you know, my father was a GM of the transportation company and my mom was of a construction company. And they really, and they were highly educated. Right.

And they came here and started working for a factory and washing dishes. They had two jobs just for us so we can have a brighter future. I mean, knowing that, I mean, doesn't it just, when you see these people that are like, like right now there's all these protests going on everywhere in the country. I'm not asking you to do it.

spout your political beliefs. But I'm just saying, as somebody that their parents gave up everything just to live in this country, it's got to kind of irk you a little bit when you see others saying, you know, death to America while they're standing on the steps of New York. I put the long sleeve. I'm getting goosebumps right now what you're saying. I'm telling you,

We live in the greatest, there's no country like this. Like we live in the greatest country. And I've been here 31 years, 32 years. This is the best country ever. I do businesses all over the world and there's nothing like this country. And, you know, sometimes we take it for granted. Yeah. You know, like I always say, it's like the most skier per capita are in South Florida. The most scuba diver per capita are in Colorado. You know, because we don't appreciate what we have. And sometimes we take this country for granted. And actually, like, I don't want to go there, but it pisses me off.

When people like... I'm an immigrant. I'm Polish and you're not American. But when people talk bad about this country, this is like, you know what? Let's go somewhere else. Well, you know, my favorite people to have on the program, honestly, are people that did immigrate here from other countries that have found great success. Because I find that it just...

It strips the bullshit meter of all of the reasons why I can't be successful in this country right out the window. Because you know what? We're not entitled. Yeah. You know what? I was entitled to be here. Not entitled. I was so, so grateful that I got here.

And when I got here, when I see all the opportunities, like, there's just no way. Like, you know, this is me. This is like, I'm going to take it. When I told my parents that I'm going to retire, like, by the age of 30, my parents were laughing. Like, my family make jokes. I was like, watch me. Like, this country is like, it's got everything to offer. And you know what? Like, I was just telling on the Sean Kelly show, everybody helps you out.

Like everybody, hey, you don't have to just find a new way. I'll walk you through. Let me show you. There's no competition. There's no envy. It's like, hey, the market is huge, you know, and everybody helps you out. And it's like everybody really walked me by the hand. And it's like, yeah, you do it this way, this way, this way. And, you know, I never stopped asking questions and ever growing. I mean, I've been here 31 years and I'm still the student and I will never stop.

You know, I've never stopped. I think there's a great point in that, which is so many people get absorbed with ego, especially when they start to find some level of success, that they feel that they have to be the ones with the answers.

And the people that I have found that I choose to surround myself with in a lot of cases that are extremely successful understand that they're always still asking questions. And I think that's a great point that more people should like that. That's something if you're watching this or listening to this, remember like-

that's how you get to the next, there's levels to the game. And if you, if you start thinking, you know it all at level three, you're never going to get to level eight. And I can tell you that the sign escape the drift. That's exactly what the drift starts. Yeah. When you think you got there, Oh brother, it just started. Everything's going to go down to shit. Like, it's like, like every time, like you think I got it, I don't need this anymore. Like I'm,

everything starts and that's what the ego, that's where the drifting starts. And it's funny when we start drifting, we don't even know. - Yeah. - You know, we become, it's like that's how it is and never is, you know? So every time like I feel comfortable, oh shit, I gotta switch something. You know, I gotta learn how to be uncomfortable being comfortable. And it constantly, it's a constant work. It doesn't matter if you're 30, if you're 35, 40, 50, 60, 70. Like I know I retire so many times,

And I was miserable, miserable. And I thought, like, you know, I become entitled. But I was in the tunnel. I love it. Like, for me, drifting is being in a tunnel and not being aware of it.

That's what the drifting, because that's what the head, like in the posture and the devil gets in. It's like, dude, you deserve this shit. And that's not, it's the ego. But everything in your soul, in your heart is telling you, shit, I'm wrong. Well, here's the thing. You know, you don't achieve that level of success that you have without having an immense level of drive at a basic level. And I found that most people that have a high level of drive, like there's really a couple categories you can go into. You can go from incredible example,

to where the parents just were such great examples of high drive. You can go from situations of incredible adversity where, you know, like the David Goggins of the world, that dude's the hardest guy on the planet because he had a fucking terrible upbringing. And then you have, you know, because they always say hard times breeds great people. What is it? Hard times breed...

hard peep or success or what is it god what am i trying to say hard times bring great men soft times bring soft men yes easy times bring soft men and i think so where does your drive come from obviously the parents made a great sacrifice to come to this country but where do you think your personal drive came from it's you know what like i i you know i think about it a lot and i got it my my let because i meditate a lot and i pray and um

And lately I realized, you know, I was a swimmer. I was like, I swam when I was a kid. You know, I was like 16 years old when I, you know, quit swimming and I was very, very good at it.

And I was swimming because I was in Eastern Bloc. So what happened is we swim as a kid. Can you imagine being six, seven, eight years old and swim six hours a day, two practices, and then you have a break on Saturday, you only have a three-hour practice, and then you have a day off on Sunday, and then you're six, seven, eight, nine, ten years old. So what happened is, and I never, ever complained about it.

I didn't like swimming. My father made me swim. I never liked swimming, but I never complained about it. So in early age, I realized what is hard for many other people is easy. So now dealing with my shit, this is easy comparing being freaking just being in the pool and hitting the gym and do it on daily basis, six hours plus school, plus homework, but do all the stuff, traveling with the teachers.

My life is easy. Well, I think you just answered it. Comparing, like, you know what I mean? Yeah, when you said Eastern Bloc, I think you, you forget, right? You forget that at the time when you were a little kid, like, Poland was controlled by the Soviet Union. Yes. And I got beat up, man. If I didn't do my time in the gym or, you know, in the pool, you know, my time slack, I mean, you get out of that, you get beat up. Like, you get like, you know what I mean? And you do it and you don't complain about it. Dude, it's so funny how quick you forget because, like,

My grandparents moved here from Hungary in the 50s. And we went to Budapest a couple years ago, which was beautiful. It's like Paris of Eastern Europe. I love it. We went and we happened to be there on Hungarian Independence Day. And I was like, oh, this is going to be great. No, Hungarian Independence Day is going to be like lively celebrations. Oh, no, dude. It was like a million people marching down their main street to Heroes Square in dead silence because...

Independence Day wasn't that long ago. Like the people that were there still understand what it meant to get that independence because they were alive when it happened. And you see something like that and you realize, again, like you said, holy shit, how great it is we live in this country where you don't even have any concept of at some point somebody had to die for you to be free. Yeah.

And that was wild. So, you know, that I think in itself, the fact that when you were a little kid in Poland, you were part of the Soviet Union. I'd kind of forgotten that. Yeah. And not only that, but not only that, remember, from generation to generations. And, you know, that's how your parents, that's how you were raised and how, you know, the grandparents. So, you know, you don't know it. You didn't know any better. And then you come here and the freedom is given to you. And you have access to all the knowledge, all the opportunities. And it's like,

And it's like, what? Like, this exists? Because remember, when we broke in Poland, it was 81. Yeah. I mean, I still remember. Even though that happened, it took years of all the conversations that I was surrounded with. Oh, sure. Like the school, the teachers, the coaches, the parents, the uncles, the aunts, the friends. Everybody talked about it. So even though it's been like when I moved here, it was 10 years later. But there was still transition. Yeah. Even though it was frustrating.

You can't just shut it off in the mind. Exactly. Yeah, you can turn the border off, but the mind doesn't shut off. Exactly. And here, you know, remember, like I waited for the toilet paper, like, you know, six, seven hours in the stores. You know, I mean, if you want anything like bananas, like there was nothing. The shelves were empty. And then I come here.

I go to the store, I can buy banana, I can buy oranges. Are you fucking with me? At the same time? Are you kidding me? Are you telling me I can be a dishwasher and pay rent? And I'm like 21 years old. I can pay rent. You know, I can buy a car. I can buy gasoline. I can go to school. I mean, education. What? Yeah. You know, I get financial aid because I just moved.

they pay for my school like they love me here yeah like i gotta pay it back yeah well yeah welcome aboard there you go so you started out dishwashing that was the first job family business had a restaurant was that it no there was like uh my godfather uh friend okay he had a restaurant yeah it was small yeah it was small restaurant and where was this where was it rochester new york rochester new york okay but that me washing dishes didn't take long you know uh

And so I was dishes then from then, you know, I was like a prep and then I was busboy. There was a waiter in the running the restaurant. And then I have the conversation with my, at that time, my, my girlfriend, the family move in and they said like, Hey, you know, we're living, they live in Denver and I was graduating from college and we live in Denver. So yeah, you know, we live in four, four units building and we, you know, we rent three and we, we live rent free. Oh, the fourplex model. Yeah. I'm like, huh? What?

So I get home and really, at that time it was my girlfriend, it was my first wife. Later, I wrote a check for $50,000, I put it on the refrigerator and she goes like, "And we're doing this." And she goes like, "We're doing what? What are you talking about?" I'm like, "We're moving to Denver, we're buying fourplex." "What are you talking about? You delusional." I'm like, "Babe, believe me." And again, I don't know how that happened, I have no idea.

Then a year later, we got married. We used all the money from, I sold all the cars. We got married. We got like, I think, $6,000, $7,000 from the wedding. And I bought my first fourplex. And remember, like you, you own business. I had no idea that there's owner-occupied fourplexes. You know, you have no knowledge. You go $200,000 fourplex. You put $50,000, $60,000 with the closing costs, you know, and that's it, you know, and then.

You think you are the shit. Now I'm running, I'm a restaurant manager in Denver and then the other fourplex is for sale. But now you're kind of in business and now you got a kind of like, hey, you don't have to do it how you did on the first fourplex. You can do owner-occupied the next one.

what are you talking about? I can buy it. There was like a FHA program, but you don't need that 2% down. So I bought my second floorplex for $1,000. Immediately after the one behind, so I used my wife, she bought the other one, floorplex, and we just like, I mean, we are the top. So now you got two cash flowing assets. Yeah, I got like three. And then we sold those. We bought it like 10 units. Like each floorplex, we turned it to 12, 16, and 17 units apartment buildings.

And then we'll buy more. Well, let's talk about that because I think that's something that is an interesting concept that a lot of people don't do in real estate, especially when they start investing. And I think that is a mistake is they don't understand when an asset caps out in value. They don't understand when probably maximize appreciation, probably maximize cashflow, probably need to get off of this asset and 1031 it into a better asset that's starting at the bottom and start building there. I think people have this mentality sometimes with real estate is buy it, never sell it.

or never domino it up what's your thoughts on it truly yeah that's why i asked i'm a long-term investor you're like well no no no no long term is fine i'm a i'm a very long-term investor

Even if we have the conversation, if we have this conversation, like literally like three years ago, I would tell you, I don't sell anything. I was heartbroken to start selling my, the first properties that I bought in 96, 98, 99. - You had had them all. - I was heartbroken. But you know, I just calculated my CFO and of course, like I was mad at him. It's like, Yarek, you make half a percent on this shit. Like, what are you doing? - You got to move the money. - Like, what are you doing?

And I'm like, listen, after 2008, you know, when I almost didn't make all my money, I said, I want to pay off all the mortgages. My CPAs, my attorneys are like, Yadik, you cannot pay off the mortgages. But here's what happened. Like, I'm a slow learner. I'm being like, you know, I'm not going to call myself dumb, but, you know, I'm a slow learner, okay? So everybody's telling me for years, and until, you know, I get a tax bill, like, you know, not only I pay $400,000, $500,000 a quarter, and then I get a tax bill for $1.7 million. I'm like, okay.

That's what everybody was talking about. I'm like, got it. Got it. You know? So it's a different game right now. It's so funny when, you know, and I've known a lot of investors, myself probably included, that when you really start going heavily into real estate and then you learn the two magic words in real estate, which is cost segregation. And, yeah,

And he starts segregating those costs to get the advanced depreciation on real estate to wipe out your tax bills, which is so funny. But so as you started coming up, you just started kind of blindly buying fourplexes and building it up without having a tax strategy, without having a banking strategy, without having these things. I have no idea, man. Like I'm telling you, by 2008, when 2008 hit,

I just bought so many, like here's 50 units, here's 100 units, here's 100. Like, I'm like, and everyone's like, what are you doing? I was called Clown of Denver. You want to get rid of something, just call Tadla. He will buy it. And I bought everything. And then 2010 happens. Like, how did he know? I didn't know. I just remembered like what I paid. Like I paid $70,000, $80,000 a unit, $60,000 a unit. And now I'm getting for 10, $17,000 a unit. Like I knew it's going to turn around. But I always have the belief. Yeah.

- Yeah. - You know what I mean? I never listened to voices outside. I always have a belief like beyond belief and I have the faith. So when I have all this, the negative, I call it like a, you know, like a distractions, those voices, like noises, I never listen.

It did work out. It did work out. See, for me, I always try to use what I call the Starbucks theory, which is if you want to know a good commercial development, just find a place where Starbucks built one or put a store because they probably pay people more than I will ever be able to afford to decide that's a good corner. So then I want to be next to Starbucks. And during the crash, when that happened, I've always been pretty good at finding all of the waves of real estate as far as in the, in the retail side of it. And yeah,

When the market fell in 2007, I became a huge short sale agent here in town. And then that transitioned into, I became the number one foreclosure agent in the country for lender processing services, who was the big one that got wrapped up in the robo-signing scandal. I was their number one real estate agent in the country. I would roll into work every day and turn on my computer and have 30 new listings. And I did a lot of real estate and shorts and flip-flops those two years. And then when that started phasing out, I...

I wasn't buying anything that I probably should have. I had friends in the business because again, I'm scrupulous, but I have friends in the business that shall go unnamed that during that time were also very large foreclosure agents that were buying all their own assets in Shell LC zone by family members.

that was too much for me as far as like, I didn't want to push the envelope of honesty of, was it illegal? No. Was it probably dishonest? Yes. So I didn't really want to do that either. So I didn't do that. Um, my friends that did that made a tremendous amount of money, but where I started buying assets again was I got contracted by both Goldman Sachs and by, um, Blackstone and purchased a tremendous amount of their portfolios here in Vegas. So

So what we did start doing is as I was buying for both of those entities alongside, we started picking our properties because I figured if their analysts say that this is the time to buy, then I'm buying on their analyst. So for me, I do love listening to my gut. My gut, I'm not gonna lie. My gut has cost me some money. Okay.

time it has but I do also like I like my Starbucks method where I try to find the smartest guys in the room and maybe jump on the back of that coattail and ride them ride to success I I bought billions of billions of not millions not billions I was in real estate and I only funded two good deals

- You only what? - Two good deals. - Two good deals? - Two good deals. - That was the only time? - And every single good deal I found, it was right here from the heart. - Was it? - I only make bad decision in my head. Only good decision in the relationship, in the business, everything was from the gut. I don't analyze shit. I don't listen to anybody. I just like, hey, that's a good property. And then because I believe so much in it,

then my head makes it work. Even if it's a bad deal. That's why I only found a few good deals. It's like, how can you buy only two? Because people think that you wait on the sideline and the good deal showed up. You got to have hundreds, hundreds of deals in order to find a good deal. If we find the first deal good, you screw for life because then you expect everything else. It doesn't work. You want to like, I'm telling like the audience right now,

If you're getting into real estate or anything, I don't have to start with real estate,

I pray for you to make a better decision. So you learn from it, so then the second is going to be better and third is going to be better. Because if you hit a jackpot on the first deal, you're done. Because then you're going to expect that your expectation is going to be a lot higher and you won't be able to find it. Well, I think you're going to probably have some good deals on the horizon because part of, I think what I read about what you do is you self-fund everything. You do not syndicate your deals. You do not raise private capital. You do not do that. Everything is self-funded. Yeah.

you've made yourself immensely bankable. I think a lot of these syndicated multifamily acquisition deals that have happened over the last two years are about to absolutely fall on their face. I think they've got major problems that you're smiling, you're smirking, because I think you probably believe the same thing. Have people come to you looking to get a bailout on some of these things yet? Yeah, it happens. I'm very fortunate, and I see deals the other way, and everybody's scared right now.

And I love it. I made, I made Shalot money in 2008. I made 10,000 times more in during COVID and everybody freaked out. And, and we're getting the same four years later, we're in the same cycle. Yeah. And you know what? I might be wrong. Maybe this time I got feelings is going to be wrong, but you know, we'll talk about it a year, two years or five years from now. What are you bullish on going forward for the next 18 months? Apartment building. Apartment building still? I think the debt, I think there's a debt problem.

in multifamily right now. I think the cap rates are

atrocious because of it. And I think until that problem gets solved, and I think there was a lot of people that speculated deals on rates would come down and they could refinance out and that's not happening. The longer the wait, the better. Yeah. And I think- Let them start. You can feel a lot of, I mean, a lot of people that I've seen that are big in the syndication of multifamily are struggling right now and they're scared about what's going on. Obviously commercial took that hit.

you know, 18 months ago. That's funny. Every commercial guy I know right now, their handicap has improved like four strokes because his cap rates get shitty. Their handicaps get better because all I do is play golf because there's nothing to buy. But yeah, so when you're looking for a deal, when you're out looking for something, what are you looking for? What are you looking for in a deal? I really, it's people say location, location, location, location. And it's true.

I really look at, like, I don't look at the numbers. I don't look at the rents because I don't know if they're true or they're not. You know, a lot of people just, you know, they just tell you the best of the best. Yeah. And I've been in the business 31 years, so I don't look at those numbers at all. I do my own numbers, and I look at, you know, the access to the highways, access to the schools, access to parks, access to all this stuff.

That's how I look at it. But now I'm also switching from C-class to A-class. Because remember, when I got in on apartment buildings, when I was renting, I was treated like shit. So I want to get in and help people so that they're not going to be treated like me. And now at that time in 93, like 95, only were poor people renting. And the second you get out of it, then you kind of buy a new home and people start getting out of it.

right now the culture and and demographics change and younger people and people successful people they just want to have access they want to rent and they want to be able to

move immediately. But they want all the amenities, they want to have everything else going on. Are you finding that it's harder to find deals in that C-class area that you can do forced depreciation on where you can improve the properties and immediately build a value? Because most of them have already been improved over the last four years. That's what I see. Yeah, it was always easy before COVID was very easy. But now, you know, a lot of hedge funds and all this stuff, they came in and they took it over. And yeah.

But it's always easier to find a C-class than an A-class. It's always easier. The numbers on the A-class don't make it. Yeah, they're hard. Yeah. But, you know, I don't need the cash flow anymore. But I want to have a new building. So, you know, I'm only 52 years young. Yeah. I'm going to live another 50, 70 years. I mean, you know, so, you know, I just want a newer building and, you know.

Yeah, I love it. I love it. Now let's talk about this because obviously the thing you wrote a book about, you're passionate about this, is going to be mental health, especially within men and entrepreneurship. And you talk about an imposter syndrome and you talk about those things. I mean, have you been affected by that? When did you first learn you had a problem with that or think you had a problem with that? 2008. 2008 was the first time? Yeah, because what happened is

you know, all my friends, everybody, I was successful. So everybody was giving me money. And, and I knew, I knew that I can, you know, pay, pay them back, refinance property, stuff like that. And then 2008 Lehman Brothers went out of business and I'm, and I got stuck. But here, my friends like, Hey, I want my $10,000 back. I want my, you know, 20,000, but I need my 40. So those I could get out of cashflow. And suddenly I have bigger friends are like, Hey, I think I want my million dollar back. I want 2.2 million. I'm like, dude,

I can't, like nobody's refinancing. And I thought I'm the bottom of the, like, you know, it's funny. I really thought I'm the bottom of the bottom at that time.

I was rolling, man. Dude, I think, well, I think obviously when you've got a major catastrophe like that happening, it's easy. Yeah. Is, you know, for me, I'm just, I'm just, I've always been very frank about it on this show. Like once a year, you know, I talk about it, I'll go into something called the funk. It's normally my wife, that's what my wife calls it. The funk is, I'll just hit a place where for no reason, I'll just, I'll just,

I just kind of hit the doldrums will just kind of hit me and some some years are worse than others. And, you know, sometimes, you know, I just call it a win if I can get one thing done that day. If I just get one thing done that day and it comes and goes, it's not consistent. It happens again like once a year. And it's something that I definitely struggle with over the years. So what are your what's your advice for dealing with that mental health stuff? And

Nobody here is a clinical board certified psychologist. Clear that up. These are just two dudes that are having some problems. Shoot the shit about what we do to help each other. There you go. It is funny. That's all we're doing. What are you talking about? How can you have problems? You got your shit figured out. Even like today. No, yesterday on the Vegas morning show. It's like, so how do you balance? I don't. I still didn't figure it out. I'm still in the process and I always will.

You know, there are, and you have a once a year, you know, I think I have a lot more than once a year. But I have the awareness now, hey, I'm going to the space. Even like literally last Monday, I was taking a shower and my queen pissed me off and I got to start having like negative thoughts. You know, I was like, shit, I'm losing my shit again. And I just got out of the shower.

Babe, I love you. You know, I have my Oosa place. I have a beach house in St. Augustine. I love this house. It's my Oosa place that I completely disconnect. And she just look at me. Thank you. Because, you know, I'm losing my shit. I'm going to hurt you. I'm going to say something. And not only to you, then I'm going to say something to my kids. So, you know, I call it like this is time to reset. But I think the older, like every year, I don't know about you, but every year or every like time it happens, I have a bigger awareness. Yes. Yes.

And, and what happened is because when I get to the bottom, when, when it happened to me in 2022, like I couldn't get out of the bed and was really, really bad. Yeah. The voices got louder and clearer. And I started believing in the bullshit that I create the bullshit story. Yup. And I almost commit suicide. Like I have the boat ready. I have everything ready. Like I couldn't deal with this shit. I'm like, I'm like, I got, I just got out of like toxic relationship. Uh,

I made more money during COVID than I possibly could. I'm healthy. My body, I had a 7% body fat. I'm a freaking fitness freak. I'm like everything I got right and I'm losing my shit. And there's a lot about people that have real problems.

Dude, you don't have problems. You work freaking millions of millions of dollars. You don't have problems. What if I do have problems? What about all these people? If I'm going through this shit, what about other people? When I start opening up all this stuff, even look at right now, you're telling me that. You guys have it. We all have it, but we don't talk about it because we as a man, we think that we're fucking weak. It's like, what do you mean? You go to your bitch hole and cry? Yeah, I do. Yeah.

Do you think I have a problem like crying in front of my kids right now? No, I have these emotions. Like your dad is not the tank that you can just beat up. It's like I have feelings and emotions, but we are some men who can be weak. Like, well, you got to be the provider. You're supposed to, you know, protect me.

but I'm also allowed to have feelings and emotions. And what happened when you're hiding for so many years, you know, like I hid it for 50 years, that shit, man, like hit me hard. Yeah, from the inside. Like, yeah. And I couldn't deal with that because my bucket was completely empty. And I'm like, what the hell? Like, this is like, you know, wake up call. And I have so many of them and it's like,

And I have the tools. Just imagine having the tools. Well, let's talk about the tools. So what are some of your tools when you hit that spot? Well, number one, you got to have a tribe. You got to have a brotherhood. And again, I'm talking about men. Women, I'm a man, so I don't know how women think. And you got to have a tribe. You got to have a support system.

And number two, you got to freaking open up. Like, you got to say shit like that. And you got to say the shit out loud because it leaves your body. And then you got to connect that, you know, devil and God and love and like right here. And you got to connect them, you know, because this shit, you know, our problems and negativity, toxicity right over here. Here's love.

You know, and light. And it's like, this stuff doesn't get manipulated. Our head is. And the voices are, the more we talk about it, the louder. The more you believe it. The more you believe it. And then that's what, like you said, I love how you said, you just go and just, you know it's happening. But I believe me, your kids, your wife knows like,

A week before it happens, man. Oh, for sure. It's like, dude, I was like, shit, dude, motherfucker, you doing there? You going there again? Yeah, she knows. She knows. But first we block it, you know, and then until, you know, it's like, oh, my God. And the two, it's number one, talk about it, have a brotherhood. For me, man, it's physical activities, it's a must. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, physical activity is a must.

But I couldn't do it without praying and meditating. Are you a TM guy? When you say meditating, are you a TM guy? Yeah. I don't know what TM means. Transcendental meditation. It's a whole thing. Yeah. I had a guy, Ari Rastegar. I don't know if you know who he is. I call him the Oracle of Austin. Ari built an...

He built a $8 billion portfolio in just at like four years. Ari is a great dude. Told me two things, change your life. Transcendental meditation, hyperbaric chambers at 168. Those two things. I do all the, yes. Don't read any books. Don't do anything else. Get hyperbaric chamber, 160 or two and a half atmospheres and learn transcendental meditation. So when a dude that's got $8 billion tells me that I did both. Yeah, definitely. And, uh, and,

ayahuasca helped me ayahuasca i mean that that first time it made me aware of all the issues and all the stuff you know when the unconscious mind conscious might they met together and you know and i went through the process that was the first kind of like a wake-up did you go to peru or is this like backyard shaman okay got it in orlando it's it's it's it's i love him so um and and that's another thing and just being in the right environment and

I mean, I meditate a lot. Like I'm telling you, I read like freaking a lot and I meditate a lot. You know, I can disconnect. Like when I see like I'm losing my shit, like my brain is not thinking right. I can like, I have people that are like, we're making millions of transactions. I will leave the meeting like,

I'm not gonna do this to your podcast but I was like I'm losing my and I really leave the room I'm like I don't because in few minutes we can burn so many bridges or so many problems we can create that it's not worth it oh sure you know what I mean so and and remember when you're in the drift when you recognize that you're in the drift two minutes or five minutes and you can really disconnect it or a day that's like you know but you know like I was in the drift for years

And I wasn't aware of it. Dude, that's why I thank God for modern technology, right? Because now you can type shit and just like, let me tell you something. I'm going to tell you some other- Shut up, I did this shit. And then delete it, right? I'm going to tell you everything I wanted to tell you and then delete, right? You do this shit? Of course I do that. Of course, if you're an idiot, if you don't,

do it. You got to type it out. You just write the email and then I'm going to tell you about this and this is what I'm going to do to you. You do what I do to it. You do what I do to it. And it's done, right? I read it out loud in anger. Yeah, and then it's over. Yeah. And then you aren't, imagine this though, but like seriously, like 40 years ago when you had the...

And then you're really spouting it out. There is no delete on that. So then you're really blowing people out. Now, through modern technology, we have the ability to tell people to go suck it and then they never really know we did it. It's magical. You know, burning bridges. But you still get to exercise those demons. But what happens is when the demons get in, even people around you, you know, you can put like a poker, like I'm a master in being like poker face. Like seriously.

but the energy is there. It's like, I know, hey, we're not getting anywhere right now. You know what I mean? And what I realize about modern technology is like, I feel like I'm losing this shit and I'm pretending like I lost the phone call, like I lost the signal. And then I go, and then it's like, hey, what's up? So how are we doing this? And a lot of time when I call five minutes later, you know, the attorneys, they figured out this like, oh yeah, oh, nevermind. You just come back. Okay. Hey, just so we know we're doing this this way.

You're like, yeah, it's okay. Yeah, but I could, you know, screw up a lot of deals. Do you have a mantra you say daily? What is the self-talk like with yourself? You know, I have a daily ritual every day. What's the routine? Yeah, let's hear the daily routine. What is it? Well, I woke up very early. What's very early? Like 4 a.m.

And the first thing I do, I put my pieces and I start meditating for like 45 minutes to an hour. Okay. Okay. And so my queen is sleeping. She doesn't even know. So I don't wake her up, you know, and stuff like that. Then I go, you know, just go to the shower and then my ritual starts in the shower. I do all my work, everything in the shower. So my shower is my everything. Like, you know, it's like, you know,

I wait long. Okay. What work do you do in the shower? You know, what happened? It's not washing your hair. No, hell no. So what happened, I think all this stuff, like 50 years from now, 70 years from now, you know, now I add all the, you know, my legacy to the kids and all this stuff. And I was thinking how, and then I,

And I go through the process. Like, first I go to, like, you know, gratefulness. Then I go through the pain. Then I say my mantras. And then, you know, I reset. That takes, like, you know, like 20, 30 minutes. And that's the mental prep for the day. Dude, I have, like, a speaker in my shower. Like, you know, the system I have in my shower is, like, you know,

People don't have it in the nightclubs. Oh, I don't hate it. Yeah, I was like, I have a sauna over there. I have a heater. I have a sauna. I have a room in my, I have the same shit. My shower is bigger than this room. Yeah. And I have this view of the water and I was like, dude, I like, it's enormous. And that's all the work is done. And then I prepared, you know, go downstairs, get a coffee. I'm a coffee addict. I drink a lot of coffees and then I'll read. What are you reading right now?

Right now, ah, shit. Surrender by, that's a good book. Surrender, I do, that's, I do a lot of like a self-education movie. And I read Bible a lot. Do you find yourself going back to the same, other than the Bible, do you find yourself going back to the same book sometimes?

Yeah. What books? My Bible is I Dream the Devil. Okay, the Bible, obviously, but what other books do you find? I Dream the Devil. Oh, what is that? I'm sorry. Napoleon Hill. Oh, Napoleon Hill. Okay, there it is. Yes, I'm sorry. Yeah, I live by this. Great book. Because that book, like, it's fun. Again, going back to drifting, like, this is like, when I look at what you're drifting, it's like,

this is right there, like I gotta get on this one. I gotta get with you because you understand like we do drift, it's normal. And we cannot be judged for it. And sometimes we just lose the, you know, because we are so focused, you know, we cannot multitask, you know that, right? I mean, just like, shit, we're doing this shit, this shit. And then I have all the people just keeping me, yeah, look outside the box.

Look outside the box. I can't because I'm like right here, man. So I need to, you know, just disconnect it and just...

- Just ease my mind because the second the voices go in, I'm losing the bottle. But just having the awareness that you know, cut it. Because even when I hit, it's funny, when I hit that depression, when I couldn't get out of the bed for months, what happened is first I was mad because I got sick. It was only two days sick.

Okay? And then, you know, when you're sick, you start thinking all the bad stuff, the divorce, the kids, the, you know, the stuff, there's some business. What the hell? The businesses I didn't buy. Like, what the hell? Like, you know, like, and then next day you add, oh, you did not get out of bed yesterday.

- Oh shit, you did not make any phone calls. You did not read anything. You did not work out. - Balls were on the wrong way. - Yeah, and then suddenly this shit's out. And then next day, oh, now it's been two days. Oh, you motherfucker, you lazy. This is like, you're a loser. You're like, who gives a fuck how much money you have? Like, this is like, you did like, did you say love you to your kids? Oh my God. And then the voice, I'm like, oh no. - Dude, that's why I say when I hit that space, it's just get one thing done.

one thing because then you don't have a day like that because you can you got to get something I don't care what it is that you can absolutely hang your hat on I got that done I'll tell you what happened is you got it so so let's say I'm riding like when it happened right I'm riding 100 miles

I'm running 10 miles a day. I'm swimming three miles. And then I did not do anything. I cannot go back after being in bed for a month, do all the stuff. Your body's not designed. No, it's done. So for me, it was success. Get out of the bed and walk like 150 yards to the stop sign. That was a win. But that's something. That was a win. That's a checkbox. But I have to forget about all the other. All the other is not there. You get there. And even if you never get there,

He used this experience to do something else. You know, the pain. And this, like, I have to redesign and completely rebuild the new attic. But this time, like, I want to build a new attic with, you know, like, I don't drink. I don't do drugs. Like, I work out. You know, I read. Like, everything in the book I do right. I have, you know, five kids. I have a great queen. It's like I got, like...

And I'm still going through the same process, you know? And it's like little wins because we, especially like the more successful you got, you only want freaking home runs, man. And it doesn't exist because then we don't celebrate the little wins. Well, I got to tell you the thing that, that changed me the most from that line of thinking to kind of more at peace, even kill me, if you will. The book that I will say of every book that I've ever written,

that I'm not written every book I've ever read that's changed my life profoundly was the obstacles away by Ryan, Ryan holiday, getting introduced to a modern version of classic stoicism was so had such a profound impact on me. Can you tell me the title? It's called the obstacle is the way by Ryan,

By Ryan Holiday. It is, to me, it is the most, it's really, it's just a retelling of Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, the writings of Seneca, the writings of Epictetus, all of these classic Stoics, which I think really just changes your focus to control the things that you can control. There's a lot of like, if you've read the book, The Four Agreements, there's a lot of

elements of stoicism in the four agreements. It's controlling what you can control, letting go of things you can't, staying focused on things you are, because I think, and it's oddly enough, I was watching an interview the other day, a clip of one anyway, with Jim Carrey, oddly enough, who said something very profound. That dude's actually wicked smart. He's wicked smart, that guy. When he opened his mouth, he was like, dude. So he said, you know, anxiety is living in the future and depression is living in the past.

And I thought how- And depression is your body telling you, fuck you, I'm done. Yeah. I want out. Yeah, yeah. He said that. He said that. Yeah, and it's funny because as you just were talking about your negative self-talk that was eating you alive, it was all the things that you hadn't done. There was no fear of what you were going to do. It was all based on the deal you didn't do. You didn't tell your kids you loved them enough. You didn't do this. You didn't do that. And that concept of-

of regret was what was eating you alive. So kind of goes along with the same thing of just understanding that. And I think that book, if you haven't read it, highly recommend if you're listening to this, poorly recommend it read that. Cause I think it had, it had a really profound impact on me on being able to let go of what I can, what I did yesterday that I can no longer control and not being worried about what tomorrow brings, but trying to be as present as I can in this moment every day. And, and,

I think as an entrepreneur, like you just said, really wanting more and constantly wanting home runs and that next thing, because it almost becomes like a dopamine hit for us, right? The deal chasers. Just want to close a deal. That's the dopamine hit. That's the thing. And you still got to have that edge to be successful in business. But you've also got to get to a point where, you know, being wealthy is not having the biggest bank account. Being wealthy is not about having five supercars. Being wealthy is about not wanting for anything.

And what you want for is completely within your control. What being wealthy is figuring out everything you need is within you. Yes. And all the other stuff, the way you start looking for validations from outside world, it means, holy shit, where do I have to work?

What is missing? What is missing within me? What is like, what is the wound or trauma that did not heal or didn't even get digged in? You know what I mean? It's like, why is this? Why do I want the fame? Why do I want to buy a bigger jet? Why do I want to like, you know, another, another house? Why do I want another, you know, I want to get to, you know, like, you know, a hundred billion portfolio. Why do I want to be? Why? Why? And you know, it's funny. It's, it's,

It's all the billionaires and celebrities, you know, us, we go and we go to the, you know, ayahuasca, we get help from monks or books or Buddhas.

None of them become celebrities or billionaires and motherfucker help me out. I got everything. I don't need any of this shit, you know, and just being aware of it and just work on yourself and then figure out why you need this stuff. It means there's a lot of work to do. Well, it's funny. Every really, truly successful person I know answers this question the same way when you say, like, what's the best thing that money buys? And it's always the same thing. It's time.

I'm blessed enough to be in a place where I just got back from Europe for two and a half weeks, taking my kids over there and just fucking around for two and a half weeks all over the damn continent. And it was awesome. And I couldn't do that. I mean, obviously the wealth is important because that's the kind of result that you can get from it. So that's why I strive for it. But it's time with my kids. Like the material things don't really matter. But however, I still catch myself sometimes.

Dude, I still can't. Dude, all right. Prime example. Prime example. And this is so stupid, but this is the kind of thing I like. I'm struggling with this right now. Struggling with this right now. Tell me if you would struggle with this, right? So here's the situation. My wife wants a new car. All right. She wants a new car. And literally I can buy my wife whatever she wants. I don't care. She has had every Highline car you can possibly imagine over the years. She's had them all.

Currently she has a BMW and because service at BMW is just a disaster, we want to get out of her BMW. She doesn't want it anymore. So I said, babe, I'll buy whatever you want. Do some research, figure it out. Cause I have a Santa on time. We'll figure it out. She comes back to me and says, I want a Kia Telluride. That's what my wife wants. A Kia Telluride. I can buy you any car on the planet you want. My wife wants a Kia Telluride. She wants it because, and

And I looked it up, dude. She's not wrong. Car and driver, number one, midsize, three-row SUV, branks over all of them. I mean, she's had GL550. I can't do anything. It's a story for you. I got to say it. Babe, you cannot buy a Kia. Everybody's going to think I'm broke. I'm not successful.

What are you doing, babe? Exactly. We cannot do that. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. This is my struggle. So here's what happened. So I was in 2010. So I'm driving Maserati in 2008, like, you know, Ferrari. And I'm living in Denver. Yeah. I don't live in Miami. There's only one in the whole Denver metro area. And I'm driving it.

And I got to the point like 2010, I don't need this shit. Yeah. I'm going to buy Infiniti that, you know, the four wheel drive Infiniti that the sedan Q, Q, I think it was like 45. Yeah, whatever. Not QX. Q45. Q45. Yeah. The QX was the big one. Yes. And that's like for me, you know, we have four kids. So they, so, so, you know,

"What are you, everybody's gonna think we broke. "Like, what are you talking about?" And I'm like, "Hey, but I don't wanna be known as a guy with money. "I wanna know guy like with the big heart." And it took me years. And even like right now, like I think we never like-- - Bro, infinity is not a key. We can all agree with that. It's not the same thing. - You know, it's, at the end of the day,

It's what we think about us. And that's another thing. It's like, hey, why I'm thinking like that? And then I go inside. I know. You know, we can go. We can talk about it. But why? It's so dumb. It's so dumb. You know what is nice? When you're in an environment, you can share the story. And it's like, that's a different, you know. When I become vulnerable, it's like people are like, why?

Me and you and 20,000 of our close friends are hearing this right now. But that's okay. Hey, you know what? Not everybody's going to think what we think, but at the end of the day, you got to be okay with it. Yeah. You know? And it's like, hey, honey, I get you. I'm not ready yet. I got to do some inner work, and I'm not fucking happy. No, dude, I'm going to get her what she wants. I don't really give a rat's ass. I mean, dude, but I've gone both spectrums with that, too, because at one point we sold it 18 months ago, but I went in with a guy that I know on a jet, and we had a Dassault Falcon 50.

great medium range jet. We bought it as a business to be able to charter it. Pilots are impossible right now. I know she talked about planes. If you know anything about planes, you know pilots are really hard right now. You don't have a microphone in my bed, right? No, I don't. No, no. Pilots are incredibly hard. I had this conversation with my queen this morning. Oh, did you really? Like literally. Yeah, yeah. We don't need a $72 million jet. Like literally today, this morning. No, this wasn't $72 million. This was a $3 million jet. But it was a great plane.

But you have to have really five pilots in rotation for that business to make sense because they can only fly so much. We could never keep more than three. So I'm sitting on the ground way too much and we're just getting eaten alive. But I will tell you this, that the plane for the image that I portray for my businesses, like who I am to my clients, who I am to the agents, who I am to everybody else, having that plane hurt me.

It didn't help me because all of a sudden it was like, this motherfucker's got a jet. Like what? Like, no, dude, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, wait a second. And it hurt me.

And I was like, wow. You know, it was a little too far over the line of this thing. All the perks, having money and having jet, like, to me, is the best one. It's the best. It is. Dude, I miss it. You said time. Dude, it was great. Like, really, like, we get in, like, even, hey, we're flying to Vegas. We're flying to LA. And I'm like, dude, great, we're going. Let's just jump in. And, like, 15 minutes, I'm in the air. And it's like, but I run four pilots. You're right. And it's like, people are like, oh, having a jet is expensive.

No, it's not. If you charge the shit out of it, it's like, that's what I do in the real estate business. It's like, you know, if you have a... It's a fourplex in the sky. If you got a 91 and you only do it, but even a 135 certificate and you just charge the plane shit out of the plane, it really doesn't cost you anything. Even if just, you know, it's like they...

you'll be able to, if you have the right guys, the, the, the, the charter, the plan. I mean, you can hit 40 to 50 hours a year for free. Oh yeah. Which is humongous. That's where we started. That's about where we started. But then when we couldn't keep pilots, you're, you're screwed. We'll put,

The pilots are primadonels right now. You've got to pay $250,000 a year and they're primadonels. But if you treat them right, they're not going to go. But they're always going to have somebody else. How much you get paid through 50, I'm going to pay you $400. So, I mean, that's the business we're in. It's hard. That's hard. But you might get... But you're right. It depends on...

You might have a lot of people lose a business like, shit, I'm not doing this shit. Like, you know what I mean? It's a lot of people might not like it. Well, let's finish this up with talking about imposter syndrome because I don't think we got to it. I want to talk about, you know, for those of you who don't know what imposter syndrome is, it's when you walk into a room and you feel like you shouldn't be there. I think that's the easiest way to describe it. Like, how the fuck? Holy shit. Who am I in this room? I'm supposed to do this. And how's that work? Talk about it, man. Talk about it.

You know, it's funny. I was calling him imposter syndrome for years. It's like, get out of my head. You know what I mean? It's the entitlement and the ego. And I called it for years, imposter. For years. But right now, I know he lives in my head and is controlled by devil. And I have to go, like, I got to go with the imposter. Just go for the dance.

Is that what we're talking? That's what we're thinking? And then I go, I really switch from my head. It's like, what is going on in my heart? What is telling you? Because it's like, we cannot, again, I'm repeating myself. We cannot listen to those voices. Because what happens is we feed the voice. And the more we feed it, the more the voice becomes louder and gives you more reason to validate your thinking. But when I go with the...

And that's the reason I reset. I was like, shit, I'm going the wrong direction. The imposter got me again. Because this motherfucker gives you bribes. It's like, but look at, you did this. Let's say walking in the room. Look at this. You better than this. You're not supposed to be here. It's like, you know what I mean? Like they call me in the kids' school on the red carpet. It's like,

Like, I have not been on the red carpet when I was freaking 10 years old, 30, when I got in trouble in high school, middle school. And now those are like, do you know who I am? And I'm like, no. You know, I have to completely reset and not listen to that and just listen to what my heart wants to do.

We always lose the battle in our head. Believe me. The ego always going to win. For me, I always think, I look at it this way. It's like the advice, you know, if you have a high school age kid that has anxiety about whatever they're having at school, you always tell them the same thing, which is nobody's thinking about you. They're only thinking about themselves. Everybody's worried about what everybody's thinking about them. They're not thinking about you at all.

And I think if you really break imposter syndrome down to its core, what gives it power is you believe that others don't think you are worthy or you are enough. So if you realize that others are probably not thinking about you at all, it does tend to zap a little bit of that power. That's the book.

That's the book. - That's the book because what happened is when you believe the impostor, that's exactly what I'm talking about, you start looking validation to prove the role that doesn't give a fuck about you. - No. - To prove it that you're worthy, that you can do this. And that's the battle, I'm getting goosebumps saying that. That's the battle we lose. You know what I mean? That's the battle we lose because the second you go within, it doesn't matter. You know, if somebody tells me, "Hey, you Chinese." Yeah, I am Chinese.

You know, you black, yeah, I'm black. You know, you're a woman, yeah, I am a woman. Who cares? Like, I know who I am. If there's a strong, strong, like, foundation with the inner work, there's nothing. You broke, yeah, I am broke.

- Yeah, who cares? - I mean, you have a $5 million plane, not 50. Or it's like, oh, you have a plan and you partner with somebody. Yeah, you charter your plane. Yeah, so what? So what? It's like, it's a . But when you have all the insecurities and all the imposter going in your head, it hits you, should they ride. Because you think about it when you're with yourself.

The second you clear the conscience, you clear. There's nothing that nobody can poke you. Remember, your queen will always poke you. That's it. I mean, she's got power over you no matter what. She's got the right to do it. And your kids will always poke you because those are our kids. We love them and we want to protect them. You know what I mean? There's always going to be. But there's nobody around that should be able to have access to you. Like, I don't allow access. And you know sometimes it's like,

Yeah, like me being, because I was for life people pleaser and me being selfish right now, I gotta be selfish. I gotta take care of myself. I'm like, you know, people are like, what is he talking about? It's like, you know, you gotta set the boundaries. I'm like, no, I'm not, you know, like I need time. Like, you know, I gotta, and we gotta feed it and we gotta feed it. I never understand like what does it mean? Like feed the king, you know, it's like, what? Like, what do you mean? Like, you know, go do stuff for yourself. Oh no, because what about my wife? What about my kids? What about my business?

And we like, like when you said you disappear once a year, when you don't do that, when you don't fill out the bucket, it's going to take your part. And the imposter is going to win all the fucking time. It's like whenever there's a problem in airplane, they say, put the mask over your face before you try to help others. So they say, same thing. I never understood that. Same thing. You know that I just understood this a year ago.

- Because I did the inner work on myself. - Put the mask on yourself. - What do you mean? I have four kids. What do you mean take the mask and put on my, no, I got to put on my kids and my wife. I got to, my mom, where's my mom? Where's my dad? Where's, right now, if I don't put my mask on mine, I cannot help anybody. So the work we do, we help. Like look at what you do on the show. You helping thousands of thousands of people.

Because we just provide the shortcuts. And the second we give them a shortcut, they just build out of it. You know, that's what it is. It's like, but you got to fill out your bucket. You cannot just speak into thousands and thousands of people and you freaking hangover, you empty, you miserable, your wife just pissed you off, your kids, you're going to come here, you're going to have no fucking energy. You're like,

Like, look at that. The way you did the introduction is like shit. Like, I don't think I can mention that. Well, that's a good thing. Well, Tarek, man, if they want to, or Yadik, sorry, if they want to catch you on social media, if they want to connect with you, how do they find you? On Instagram, tadlayadik at...

I'd like that. Cool. Well, man, brother, I appreciate you coming down. It was a great conversation. I got a lot out of it. If you didn't get anything out of this, there's something wrong with you. I'm just saying that. It's the truth. There's something wrong with it. Just so you know, everything is wrong with us. It doesn't matter. Because something wrong with you doesn't mean there is like, you know. You can fix it. Yes, there you go. But you need to remember this, man.

Nobody's coming to save you. You've got to save yourself. And if you're somebody that's out there drifting along with the currents of life, man, it's time to start swimming against the currents and take control. We'll see you next week.

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