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Return on Experience: The Secret Metric Every Business Needs to Know

2025/1/8
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Sujay Saha: 客户体验常常被误认为是‘虚无缥缈’的,领导者难以理解其价值。 为此,我们提出了‘体验回报率’(ROX)的概念,它是一种更全面的方法,不仅关注货币回报(ROI),还考虑品牌忠诚度、客户留存率、客户推荐等更广泛的价值。 ROX将客户体验与员工体验联系起来,并纳入对无形资产(如企业文化)的投资考量。 ROX指标包括客户满意度、品牌推荐可能性和客户参与度等。 构建ROX系统需要根据具体业务和指标定制,但一些常用指标(如NPS、客户满意度、客户努力满意度)可以作为基础。 ROX系统可分为五个维度:自豪感、影响者、行为、价值驱动因素和结果。 在应用AI时,应避免一些误区,例如先做好基础工作再考虑AI、一次只关注一个用例、只选择单一供应商、认为AI可以自动提升员工价值以及只依赖高级专家。 领导力体验是关键,高地思维(战略性,与目标相关)和低地思维(交易性,关注眼前利益)之间需要平衡。 目标导向的领导力至关重要,它能将战略目标与日常工作联系起来,并确保所有决策都与企业目标保持一致。 持续地沟通和强调企业目标,才能真正将目标融入企业文化。 在应用AI时,应以价值为导向,明确价值观,制定规则和边界,避免负面影响。 Lauren Wood: 客户体验和员工体验之间存在密切联系,领导力体验是两者之间的催化剂。 领导团队的跨职能协作能力对员工体验和客户体验有直接影响。 领导力发展和培养对提升客户体验至关重要。 在数字化转型过程中,企业应以价值为导向的方式应用人工智能,并与企业目标保持一致。 在应用AI时,应明确价值观,制定规则和边界,避免负面影响。 企业应持续地沟通和强调企业目标,才能真正将目标融入企业文化。 Sujay Saha: 在一次航班延误事件中,航空公司员工展现出的冷静、耐心和服务精神给我留下了深刻印象,尽管他们没有足够的权限来解决问题。 这说明企业文化和员工的敬业精神对客户体验至关重要,但同时,赋能员工,让他们有权做出必要的决策,同样重要。 客户体验领导者应将客户体验与价值联系起来,并向领导者展示其价值。 价值是连接客户体验和企业目标的关键点。 通过具体的案例或数据,向领导者展示客户体验如何带来实际的价值,例如提升客户留存率或增加收入。

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Key Insights

What is Return on Experience (ROX) and how does it differ from ROI?

Return on Experience (ROX) is a holistic framework that measures the broader value of customer experience, including brand loyalty, customer retention, and advocacy. Unlike ROI, which focuses on monetary returns, ROX connects customer experience to employee experience and considers investments in intangible initiatives like organizational culture and technology enablers.

Why is it challenging to measure the ROI of customer experience initiatives?

Customer experience is complex and emotional, making it difficult to draw a direct line to revenue. Traditional ROI metrics focus on monetary outcomes, but initiatives like organizational culture or employee engagement are harder to quantify immediately, requiring a more nuanced approach like ROX.

What are the five dimensions of the ROX measurement system?

The five dimensions are pride (emotional commitment to brand purpose), influencers (internal and external brand rallying cry), behaviors (critical positive habits and actions), value drivers (key sources of value for customers and employees), and outcomes (connecting efforts to financial goals).

How does leadership experience impact customer and employee experience?

Leadership experience acts as a catalyst for customer and employee experience. What leaders say and do is amplified throughout the organization, influencing behaviors, products, and solutions. Empowered leadership creates a flywheel effect, driving sustainable success in both customer and employee engagement.

What is high ground thinking in leadership decision-making?

High ground thinking is strategic decision-making connected to a sense of purpose or outcome. It contrasts with low ground thinking, which is transactional and focused on immediate gains. High ground thinking involves making decisions that align with the organization's long-term impact and values.

What are common myths about implementing AI in organizations?

Common myths include: 1) doing the basics first before AI, 2) focusing on one use case at a time, 3) seeking a single vendor solution, 4) assuming AI will always free up people for higher-value work, and 5) believing hiring a chief AI officer is the first step. AI is an accelerator and requires openness, empowerment, and ethical considerations.

What impressed Sujay Saha about a recent customer experience with an airline?

Despite a flight cancellation causing chaos, airline employees remained calm, composed, and humble, even when customers shouted at them. Their dedication to representing the organization with pride, despite lacking empowerment to make big decisions, left a strong impression.

What advice does Sujay Saha give to customer experience leaders?

Customer experience leaders must connect their initiatives to tangible value, whether through anecdotal examples or clear correlations between experience and monetary gains. By focusing on value and making it relatable, customer experience can gain a front seat in decision-making rather than being an afterthought.

Chapters
Sujay Saha, President of Acquis Cortico-X, discusses the evolution of customer experience (CX) from a foreign concept to a crucial focus in organizations. He highlights the difference between organizations that genuinely "own" experience and those that merely have experience-related titles. Sujay emphasizes the need to understand how CX efforts translate into real-world experiences for both customers and employees.
  • CX is often seen as a non-essential topic by leaders.
  • Organizations have created functional areas and roles focused on CX.
  • The difference between driving CX discipline at the enterprise level vs. managing CX at the front line is critical.

Shownotes Transcript

Are traditional metrics like ROI failing to capture the true value of experience? Sujay Saha, President of Acquis Cortico-X, challenges the status quo and argues for a new framework: return on experience. He explains why focusing solely on monetary returns can be detrimental and how a broader perspective can lead to sustainable success. Plus, Sujay debunks common myths surrounding AI in the workplace and discusses how to approach digital transformation with a values-driven mindset.

Tune in to learn:

Tune in to learn:

  • 00:00 Introduction to Customer Experience
  • 01:49 The Evolution of Customer Experience
  • 04:24 Key Metrics Surrounding CX Investment
  • 05:32 Implementing Return on Experience (ROX)
  • 08:38 Challenges in CX Metrics
  • 10:03 Creating a Bespoke Measurement System
  • 14:46 The Role of Leadership in Experience
  • 16:20 Diagnosing Organizational Maturity
  • 23:17 High Ground vs. Low Ground Thinking
  • 25:41 The Importance of Aligned Purpose 
  • 34:59 Curating AI According to Your Values
  • 41:10 A Personal Experience With an Impressive CX Team
  • 46:23 Key Advice for CX Leaders

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