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Haley Takes On Ramaswamy And DeSantis
2023/11/9
FiveThirtyEight Politics
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Galen Druk
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Jeff Skelly
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Leah Askaranon
Leah Askaranon：认为辩论前半部分充斥着夸夸其谈，令人沮丧，而后半部分就经济和堕胎问题展开了一些有建设性的讨论，即使没有得到明确的答案，知道问题的存在也是有益的。她还特别提到了拉马斯瓦米在辩论中的表现，认为其行为表现出一种绝望感，因为他之前的支持率增长已经停滞，并且这种夸夸其谈的策略已经失效。她还对比了特朗普和拉马斯瓦米，认为特朗普之所以能逃脱批评，是因为他在攻击中加入了幽默和魅力，而拉马斯瓦米则没有这种能力。
Jeff Skelly：认为这场辩论内容充实，这可能归因于主持人对辩论的控制以及候选人的政治能力。他指出，辩论中对特朗普的讨论不多，即使是克里斯蒂也没有过多谈论他，这与之前的预期有所不同。他还分析了辩论中各个议题的讨论时间，并指出堕胎是讨论时间最长的议题。此外，他还分析了拉马斯瓦米在辩论中的表现，认为其夸夸其谈的策略已经失效，并且其行为像是在课堂上过度发言，然后又试图与你交朋友的人。
Galen Druk：对拉马斯瓦米在辩论开始时猛烈抨击共和党、共和党全国委员会主席罗娜·麦克丹尼尔以及主流媒体的行为进行了描述。他还分析了拉马斯瓦米的夸夸其谈的策略已经失效，并认为德桑蒂斯可能赢得了这场辩论，因为他巧妙地将话题引向选民关心的问题，并展现出更人性化的一面。他还认为，从表现来看，黑利是辩论中表现最好的，但她能否赢得共和党初选尚不清楚。最后，他还总结了辩论的主要议题，包括外交政策、堕胎、经济等，并指出这场辩论的意义在于确定特朗普以外的候选人，而不是决定2024年或2028年的总统候选人。
Leah Askaranon: The first half of the debate was frustrating, filled with bombast, while the second half had some constructive conversations about the economy and abortion. Even without firm answers, knowing there's no answer is helpful. Ramaswamy's behavior showed desperation as his surge has withered; his shtick is wearing thin. Trump gets away with things because of humor and charm, something Ramaswamy lacks.
Jeff Skelly: The debate was substantive, possibly due to moderator control and candidate capabilities. There wasn't much talk about Trump, even from Christie. He analyzed discussion times of various issues, noting abortion was the longest. Ramaswamy's bombast has failed; he's like the guy who attacks you in class and then asks you out.
Galen Druk: Described Ramaswamy's opening attack on the Republican Party, Ronna McDaniel, and the media. Ramaswamy's shtick is wearing thin. DeSantis might have won by pivoting to voter concerns and humanizing himself. Haley was the best debater, but her win is uncertain. The main topics were foreign policy, abortion, and the economy. The debate's purpose was to identify the alternative to Trump, not decide the 2024 or 2028 nominee.
Deep Dive
The debate, held in Miami, saw candidates aiming to prove their worth with Trump leading by over 40 points. The first half was marked by bombastic statements, while the second half delved into more constructive discussions on the economy and abortion.
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