Jeff Goldblum
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Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's because they're naked. Well, it's like the 1800 time you say on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, Hey, I'll go there. I'll get an Airbnb. So, um, you won't regret it. All right. Before I tell you about Jeff Goldblum. Yes. What do you got? Before I tell you about Jeff Goldblum, I was just on the road doing this tour and, uh,

playing these gigs. And the new thing that's going on is that

because Corona is not gone, it's slowing down. These people that wait in the airport to have you sign stuff. Right. And I sound like an ingrate, but I do love fans. I know you do. And it's fun when people come up. Count me as a fan. But when they are just have like these Funko pops and these posters and things, but they get in the airports when you're on the road. So they, you, you get out of your gate and there's 10 people walking with you. And I do one each cause I don't, I get a little weird out cause it's, they're very aggressive. They're not fans. Let's, I'm gonna start with that.

They're just guys who go, and then I go, I'll do one each. And then they don't accept that. They walk you all the way to luggage. I lost a piece of luggage because I was too distracted because they wouldn't leave you alone. And then they walk you to your car and then they drive to the hotel and wait for you. Anyway, so this sounds like I don't like fans. They're not. They just go sign this, use my pen, this Corona, Corona, Corona everywhere.

And then they have like a kid with them to go, we'll sign one for her. She's your biggest fan. I go, what movie do you like? And she goes, who the fuck are you? I mean, they don't know. You know, they're just like a kid they grab and say, make him sign this. And I'll give you this 40 years. And people come up to you and go, my kids really love you. And they're like seven. I'm like,

well, what? I mean, what have I done lately? And they go, he's good. They point over there to the, you know, luggage handler. So they didn't know. And then these guys were off and I lost a piece of luggage because of that. And then something else happened that was really bad. But other than that, that's the road, dude. I know what it's like to be David Spade because when we were doing the gig at the Wiltern with our friend, Adam Sandler, I was being driven in in a black SUV and I was like, David! David! David!

So what I did, I put the window down just a little bit and I flipped on the bird. And then when they see me, they go, David, where's Adam? He's coming.

Oh yeah, Adam did the show. He's coming up. And Jeff Goldblum, by the way, was great. Jeff Goldblum, let's just say. Cool dude. There's very few modern actors. Like in the olden times, you'd have very quirky voices. Me being an impressionist. Jeff Goldblum has a, like Nicolas Cage or Christopher Walken, he's got a very unique voice.

eccentric, quirky. Yeah, quirky. But even when we're talking to him, he's like, and he's very, he's listening with his hands. You are fascinating to me. I'm finding out that you're... And he would put his hands near his mouth and kind of move his fingers around. I thought he was trying to interrupt us. Do you want to say something, Jeff? And he goes, no, you're fascinating. I just want to listen to you. And he would just move his fingers around his face. Remember that? He hosted twice. He was doing this interview, by the way, last year.

From the Jurassic Park set. Press junket for Jurassic Dominion World or something? Or as we call it, Jurassic 15. Jurassic Park. This time, the dinosaurs are big. I thought that was a great title. This time, they'll scare the shit out of you.

I knew a guy who used to do a bit about the T-Rex couldn't masturbate. You know, the dinosaur with little tiny arms. Give me that wiener. That was his closer than the yuck. This time, dinosaurs talk. We're going to get you. They have to go somewhere with it. This time, there's no dinosaurs. It's just land sharks. They have to keep upping the ante and it's like,

They're smarter than us this time. Yeah, they have intelligence. Well, I'm afraid to have something to tell you about the dinosaurs. They get on the elevator and the elevator operator's a shark. The dinosaurs can talk and they're poets.

Anyway, the movie's better than that. We saw the movie and Goldblum is a stud. He did a sketch with me called Carl with a K where I worked at a video store. And we relived that. The movie's great. I mean, that's the kind of movie you want to see in the big screen. Plus, he was in Independence Day and he was in Jurassic Park. These are huge, huge mega movies. I'm going to ask him if he's ever met Will Smith. Did he meet him on the set?

Yeah. And did he ever have an impulse to slap Will Smith? Yeah. Who punched who? I think Jeff Goldman is 6'12". He's a very tall guy, which is all that matters in life. I mean, look at Instagram. I'm mad about it. He's just a great actor, and he'll delve into that on our podcast, just about his technique and just that he wishes he could do everything over again. I thought he was very humble, wants to hang out with us. Yeah, he wants to hang out. And we will. Yeah.

And we'll stop talking so we can talk over Jeff Gubel. Yeah, and by the way, just so you all know, he was doing a press junket. Oh, yeah, it's not a full hour. And so it was a little bit, we're a little hyperactive. Sorry, we're new to this and we're narcissists. We're not even new anymore. We're just still bad at it. Yeah, we've done it for, we've done 200 episodes and we're still learning. No, but it was, the sound was a little iffy on that. And there was a sense that...

Well, I was so excited just to talk to Jeff Goldblum. Just got a little hyperbolic. And he'll mention his favorite movies. And you'll hear that list. It's pretty exciting. It is a long list. It is a long list. Jeff Goldblum's done a lot of sort of a quirky actor. Tall man. Jeff Goldblum. Take it or leave it.

Yes, I've been in the same house for about 37 years. Can you see the L.A. Design Center from your house? Yes, we can see, you know, the red and blue and green buildings. We can see part of Chateau Marmont. Okay.

Yes, we can see that new little lot that they just knocked down the bank there at Crescent Heights and Sunset. And those many operations are now waiting for something to be built there. I'm getting it. We're in the same neighborhood. Can I jump in with a question about the El Pollo Loco there? Yes. It's gone. It's gone.

I've eaten there maybe 2,000 times and the McDonald's maybe 5,000. Really? And they're both gone. All the time now. Really shook me. I've been there about 37 years. I'd never eaten at that McDonald's.

And I'd never eaten at that El Pollo Loco. There's now Pinches Tacos down the block, but I haven't tried them yet. And what's that other place? Taco, you know, Pink Taco. Pink Taco. Pink Taco. That used to be... Do you remember when Pink Taco used to be... Pink. Dot, dot. Wait a minute. Wasn't that, you know, the Saturday Night Live? Wasn't that the place where... Oh, Roxbury? Yes. Yes.

That was Roxbury. And before that, it was Imperial Gardens, which was a location used for one scene in Modern Romance with Albert Brooks. God damn. Great movie. And Catherine Harold. Well, Jeff, you look like a model, and that's because you don't eat where I do. I want to meet your dermatologist. Yeah, you look great. Thank you very much. I'm falling apart.

You guys look fantastic. Thank you. And I really agree. Listen, I know I were. I went. You guys are in two separate locations. David, where where are you? Where are you? Just a random undisclosed mansion in behind like Mel's diner area. Really? Yeah. He's point. Yeah. Point oh nine for me in miles.

Hey, do you guys remember, because I love our whole neighborhood, do you remember the Source restaurant, which is now that cantina, which I notice is closed all the time? I don't know what's going to happen with that. And did you ever see that documentary about the Source cult fairies?

that was going on all that time while I was eating there. I remember that. I heard about it. Dana knows every documentary. I love. Did you see it? I love documentaries about cults and cult leaders. I'm sure I saw that one. I do too. Did you see Wild Country? Loved it.

I'm fascinated by people joining cults. Me too. What's that thing now on, I see on HBO max, you see some posters around town. It's what's it called where it's an organization and they, um,

And it's about losing weight where it's a religious thing and they're losing a lot of weight. There's a person with a big hair who leads it. And it turns out during the episode that I saw a chunk of, they're spanking kids and they like the idea of spanking kids. Have you seen that? I haven't, but I've got it on my watch list. I haven't seen that. It sounds like most of them. Like the one where the guy went and met with a Dalai Lama.

Remember that guy? And he had, he has a, remember that one? They have all the girls come out and he's like a smooth talker. And then at some point it turns into, guys, I do have to have sex with everybody. It's like, it's so typical. And they should go, okay, it's bad enough you took all my money, but it always goes to sex and you have to go through me. The trick is to be so human. Like they fart, they eat chocolate, they drive Rolls Royces.

And so they go, he's so real. It's almost like a double trick. Like, of course he's not of this world. I don't know. Hey, Jeff, have you ever had cult people follow? Go ahead. I see Jeff pointing. What do you want to say about this? Oh, no. I'm just listening to everything that you're saying.

I wish that you guys must love that movie, The Master, which I like a lot. I like P.T. Anderson very much. Love everything he does. Saw that movie three times. Obsessed by it. Yeah. Brilliant. Yeah, I am, too. Yeah, I think it's brilliant. And there will be blood. And I like Inherent Vice. And I like Phantom Thread. And, of course, Boogie Nights and Punch Drunk Love. And I like Licorice Pizza very, very much. Can I ask you about Phantom Thread?

Yes, sir. Because you're married. I'm married. David might get married. Knows married people. What do you think the overarching theme of Phantom Thread was? Because that was...

Daniel Day-Lewis said, what have we wrought? I mean, he told PTA, like, I can't believe we just made this movie. And the theme of it, about the male-female dynamic. I wonder, you know, I saw it when it came out. To have this in-depth discussion, I'd want to see it again and study it, because I think it's very deep. What I noticed about that movie, the impression that I got, was that in contrast to some movies that sometimes...

I'm suspicious of it. It it talked about a relationship. It depicted a relationship

that was in some ways a tip of the iceberg, had tip of the iceberg elements that were alluded to, depicted, but that had roots and backstories and underpinnings psychologically that were thoroughly investigated, I thought. I didn't know what they were, but it was for us to figure out

Whereas some movies go, hey, we're vague here. We'll allude to something, but we don't actually know what it's what's going on. That was my impression that he is very, very brilliant and entirely thorough. And it seemed like in the male female dynamic, there is kind of like.

You sort of want your spouse to kill you in a way and you want to kill them. And that's part of the romance of it or something, because he wanted to be poisoned by his wife. He clearly enjoyed and she liked him being helpless. It's very interesting.

Well, do you remember boxing Helena? Yeah. So, so that has nothing to do with this, but I remember I I've heard him talk about, cause I like all things about behind the scenes and directors talking. He said that he and Maya Rudolph. Yes. His wife. Were at home during one cycle where he got the flu or something. Yeah. And,

he thought she was in his attention in her attention to him particularly caring and i think that it triggered this story he said as i remember uh whereby hey i like this idea of being uh

You know, I'm weak and and yes, you have vulnerable, you know, vulnerable. It brings out something is going on. I love that actress. Daniel Day-Lewis was great in that. But I love that actress who was in it. Yeah. Yeah. We could talk about that forever or a million things. I'm so happy to see you guys. I really am excited to talk to you.

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Let's get back to the happy to see us part because Jeff, first of all, Jeff, you sound like you have such a cool voice. You sound like an impression because people do it and you have such a good voice. I like that. And you're six, four. You don't have to do anything. I don't even know why you got into acting. You already won. So women love.

Women are into tall guys and now I hate it because they always secretly were. And now it's on Instagram. Like we need tall guys and they're the, they rule the world. And I'm like, what the fuck's going on? Like I got enough going against me. I don't need, I can't help. Anyway, that's not Jeff's fault. Totally. Yeah.

No, no, not 100%. But Jeff, I met you on SNL. I think that's where I met you. I forgot about the sketch we did a long time ago and I looked it up. You forgot what? A long time ago? You were on a show called SNL and I was a writer-performer.

That's Saturday Night Live. I've seen several of those. And I remember when you and I did, you did a spectacular thing where you were a video. You were the the clerk at a video store. And you said, yes, I guess whose number I have. I'm not going to do anything with it. But I am a fan. Yes, yes, yes. Very brilliant.

I watched that this morning and while we're on the topic of SNL, we have a few questions for you and we're going to bore the fucking shit out of you. Sit with us. When you did that, you were, you were, I looked at it again today and I don't love watching myself. It was kind of fun watching you in it because I was so nervous and

just to be on SNL and then I've got a star in it and I was newer and I'm trying to like not be on the cue cards, which is very dangerous to try to memorize at SNL. It changes so much, but I was the writer. So I knew what I changed and you came in and you've got such a casual, relaxed acting style, which is,

is in all your stuff. You're great at it. And I really appreciated it more than that because you play things so real. It almost calmed me down and not be such a fucking goofy. I was trying not to be too charactery, but it is SNL and I didn't really know that much about acting. So I just thought you maybe should have beat me up during the sketch because I was getting a little broad. Yeah.

Not as I remember it. You've always been a spectacular actor. I loved doing that. Thank you, Jeff. I don't know if you call it nervousness, but I was on alert doing that show, and I wish I could do it now. I'll bet I would see that and think I could do it better now because I keep getting a little more something or other, but I try to improve. Can I ask you? I want to ask you a question, Jeff, that I noticed recently.

from the first Jurassic Park. Yes, sir. And you and I, I was coming out of doing an acting class one-on-one with Roy London, and I met you, and you invited me to jam with you, which was very cool, and I was so happy to meet you. But I remember in Jurassic Park, and I looked it up to make sure, it's like, I didn't know if they wrote your part as Elvis, but you're on the helicopter, right?

And I go, oh, he's doing Elvis. I thought that's very Roy London is to do Elvis, but pull it back. And then at one point you just started kind of roaring like a dinosaur. But I don't know if everyone noticed it, but you're like, wow. And I thought, is that Meisner? Is it London? Is it Jeff Goldblum? Or did I recognize that you were doing something that made it so charismatic that

And so specific, which is maybe part of your brilliance. But do you remember that? I'm not brilliant at all. You're so sweet. Um, I don't remember, um,

that I was doing anything like what I thought of consciously as a roar or anything. I've seen that scene and I know, you know, I laughed in some kind of gurgling way or something. Yeah. But, uh, but now that you mentioned it, I think I, I, I was, I was coaching with Roy London back then. Jeez, what a wonderful guy he was. And, uh,

And he had some always subversive, unexpected, you know, uh, un-cliche ideas, you know, to offer and, you know, but I, I, I, I loved Steven Spielberg on that. I remember feeling, uh, you know, alive and excited and full of creative juice of one kind or another. I went to one Roy London class and then I was with Ivana her, uh,

his protege you know the sheik started taking people when roy was too full so i knew that world a little bit and uh i do think it helped me i think it helped me a lot and when i saw someone like you in something like jurassic park it gives hope to someone that's just a comedian that wants to go in that world is like you could be in this big movie that's not a comedy but having someone come in there and lightly weave in some comedic moments is so important

And you do it so effortlessly. Some probably written some art and, and the more they let you do it, the more confidence you get probably because I'd be scared around Spielberg, but to, if he, if he's letting you do that stuff, it really puts layers in that movie. That's so good. One more reason. It's a great movie. Well, thank you so much. You know, I, I, I,

you guys are talking my language when we're not, I don't want to bore anybody. And if we, you and I should just, uh, we should all have dinner at Musso and Frank's or something. And, uh, I'd like to talk to you guys for, you know, cause I'm just a humble student of it. And I, I, but I would, I, I'd love to talk about your ideas about what you're just talking about. You guys are brilliant. And, um, and how you, how you navigate all situations like that, which I'm still trying to do. You know, we made another one of these and, uh,

And I love to talk about all Jurassic Park World Dominion June 10th. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. Yesterday and the day before.

You're kidding. What do you mean? Wait a minute. You saw our latest movie on two days. He was able to get it. The first day I tried to download it. And the second day, uh, that was three hours. And then the second day I watched it and, uh, I thought it was very interesting. Now it's so good. I don't even think the dinosaurs are fake. I just think they're part of it because it used to be like, that looks real. That looks real. Now I'm like, so he's in a scene of the dinosaur, but everyone's so smooth at it. I,

it can't be just tennis balls on a stick anymore it's like everyone's looking the right way and acting and back and forth and i really want and the dinosaurs act a little better this time because they're very good you know and i thought it was a really interesting great movie that

People are going to love because it has all the stuff you want from those movies. And it's got to be hard to keep doing it and keep it great. A lot of great chase scenes where they just don't end. You're like, holy shit, what's going on here? But it's all so real and it looks like so hard to do. The boys are back in town, if you know the reference. It's Sam O'Neill, Laura Dern, and Jeff Goldblum together again.

you know samuel laura durney yes well it's so great to hear you say that uh david and thank you i hope people like it but colin trevorrow wrote a script with emily carmichael that's uh that's um a smart he's a he's a terrific director and he's been thinking about this for a long time and and to take all those characters and to make it into something logical and satisfying and uh isn't an easy task and i think he did a great job you got to be ahead of everyone because everyone's seen

This, you know, you guys have done them before. And then you've got it, you've got all these people that probably it's harder to keep everyone happy and make sure everyone knows the movie is one step ahead of everyone when you watch it. And just so complicated, that whole thing. And I've done movies of mine are a little, not simpler, but you know, we're worried about different things and

I just watch your night shoots and your craziness. And I'm just like, there's so much going on, as much fear and what's going on here and there. But did a great job. Everything looks real. It's great. Thank you so much. Yeah, I'm proud of it. They did nicely. And Colin had this idea where the dinosaurs were not going to be CGI. Mostly they were going to be made.

animatronic play and John Nolan had a creature shop and so they were there and they're doing better than ever. The dinosaurs are bigger and more fantastic than ever. And yeah, he did good.

I saw Alf in there. Maybe I'm wrong. Was Alf? No, it wasn't. You're mixing this up with another movie. You may be seeing too many things. Maybe I didn't see it. That's the Will Ferrell. When you get the script, Jeff, do you feel like they're writing for your character and also the Jeff Goldblum rhythm? Or do you kind of bring yourself to it? Because you do have...

Very off kilter syncopated. And of course they try to guess that. Well, I, I became a gigantic fan. I believe a gigantic fan, my wife and I from the big chill. Cause we saw it so many times. We actually went to the centerplex. We're trying to see another movie and we heard the big chill was starting. We'd already seen it three times. Then we went over and watched it again. And we watched it four months ago.

So that was the one where that whole cast was amazing. And that's where I really noticed your genius or whatever you want to call anyone who can be in a film and be that natural and so fascinating. Your vocal rhythms, because that's kind of what I'm into, are so interesting. Anyway, I'll let you speak. Sorry, I fanned out a little bit.

No, geez, I adore you guys. Thanks. You're encouraging me and making me feel good about all of this. All sincere. Do you know how great you are? What about The Fly? Don't get me started with The Fly. Don't let me get started. I don't even want to start with The Fly. Yeah, you're not allowed. It's too much. That tore me apart. That was one of the most beautiful, sad, brilliant science fiction films ever made. I'll let you talk about it.

I get emotional seeing that, too. David Cronenberg is a heck of a director. He's an amazing guy, and we worked hard on that. In Toronto, wait a minute, who's from, you know Toronto. Well, Mike Myers, my brother from another mother, is the ultimate Canadian director.

He was my partner in Wayne's World, Mike Myers. But I'm from Montana. A lot of people think Dana and I are from Canada. A lot of people think I'm from Canada. A lot of SNL people are from Canada. Right, but not you guys. I'm from Missoula, Montana, which is pretty close to Canada.

Yeah. Right. Right. You know, I hope that we spend many much time together. I have much I have much to ask you guys. I have I have much to learn. Mambo King. Do you remember that movie where who says what's the actor who says you have much to learn? Mambo King. That's a good trivia. I think it was called the Mambo King. But who is starring Billy King?

Hey, Jeff, do you remember? Eugene King, I think, was in that. Oh, yeah. Do you remember when you, the first time you hosted SNL, do you know what it was for? It's usually for a movie coming out, right? I think the first one was for Jurassic World.

jp park i think wasn't it three four ninety three yeah yeah was it 93 and and that's when the monologue had i think didn't laura dern wasn't she there and she said oh did she come do something yes i think she might have come done something and said oh were those dinosaurs real and da da da or people keep asking me were the dinosaurs real i should have done my research and seen both of those again but uh but i had a great time and and the uh

And Aerosmith was the musical guest one time. And in Vogue, right? Yeah. Free your mind on the rest of us. Yeah. They were they were the other ones that she had a good time doing those. You know, you had a sketch that I saw today. I just watched a couple and you had a pretty all star cast. It was Canteen Boy. Yeah.

It was so ridiculous. And you were kind of mean in it, which is very not you. I've realized you're never really mean in movies, I don't think. And this is sort of a different, I mean, it's only a sketch, but you had Hilarious Sandler being ridiculous canteen boy. Farley was in it. You had Phil Hartman, Kevin Nealon, Tim Meadows. That was a great one with everybody.

What a cast. Hey, I want to see that again. Yeah, that was amazing, wasn't it? And then how about that one I did with Molly Shannon, where she's, you know, the Catholic girl. Yes. Oh, she is a superstar. You sang a song. You know, last dance, last chance for love. Yeah, we sang that.

Wow. That is right up my alley of my ears because I think Dana just took off. I had just left. I must have just missed you, Jeff. I left in March or April of 73, sorry, I think. And you were there later, maybe in the fall. Yeah.

I want to go over in detail. I want to remember all my experiences and question you about every experience you had. I'm kind of fascinated with SNL, really. And I see a lot of interviews with people and listen to podcasts and people talking about it. I can't get enough of that. I love it. It's a seminal experience for the host.

That's good. Or the athlete or the movie star or whatever, going into live television with no prep. And for us who are unknown people, David and I getting our break on a show with that much pressure, it never totally leaves you. It's a touchstone for all of us. That's why this podcast has been so interesting. And for you, you know, what must've been experientially, how did you, I, it's like really intense hosting that show, uh,

It's wild. They're picked and pulled. And I mean, what was that like for you? The quick changes and just. Yeah, it was it was something I took it seriously as a you know, and it was, you know, unnerving and and exciting in a lot of ways. And I tried to, you know, just do the assignment as well as I could and and work hard that week.

you know, in however I could do it and trying to figure out how to do it. And as I remember,

you know, I felt like it had gone okay, but I'll bet if I saw it now, like a lot of things from that period and even until recently, I think I could do much better now. I don't know. Something is broken with me recently, broken free and broken. I feel like into some new territory where I'm a little more confident, relaxed, connected to something that I can do

And I'll bet I could make my way through something like that a little better. And where do you think that's coming from? Is it just being a dad or is it just where you are just over time being... Being a dad has been deepening and I keep working, so I keep getting a chance to kind of practice things. And, you know, just from having done it, I think I'm a late bloomer in some ways. And...

I don't know, I think I keep finding things that are

My own recently. I don't know how to describe it. I'll tell you, you know, it's boring to talk about. I don't know. I'd love to talk to you guys about it. Oh, we're going to have a long dinner and talk all about it. But I do think that for me, too, I think the more you do something, being desensitized to 100 people watching on a movie set and getting out of your own way and out of your own head in terms of here's my lines, this and that. I think there are people who are savants that maybe it was

you know, Brando or people like that. There's other people who just get better and better and more confident and more movies and more TV shows. So I relate to that, to you just getting better now. Yeah. I feel like that's my story. Yeah. Sandy Meisner was my teacher and he said, you know, it takes 20 years of continual work to even be able to call yourself an actor.

So he liked this, you know, 40,000 hours. He didn't say that, but he liked that kind of, you know, continuity of digging, he said, was the way to get somewhere. You know, just keep doing it and it'll take you someplace. And that I think I had that in mind. And I think that's that's

maybe why it happened to me that way. I feel like it's happening to me that way. Interesting. You know, I call myself an actor after two classes, but maybe it was a little rushed. But I think, Jeff, what happened with me with comedy a little bit, which might be maybe what we're all talking about is

So the early years are almost constantly an audition and you just don't know if you're going to stay in show business. Like you do good and only buys you six months and then where have you been? And the next one better work and this better work. And I think all of us get to a certain point where we go, okay, I think I'm just going to stay in show business. I think it's okay. Like, and then you can start being looser going, I do care.

but I'm more caring about the right things instead of just, oh, I hope it's not so fear based as it maybe used to be. Maybe that's it isn't me. I relate to that. I think that's true of me, too. I was I had plenty of I you know, I was I had terrors of one kind or another. I think I was excited and somehow confident from a belly full of inflammation or fire of one kind or another. I really want to do this and I'm excited about doing that. But

And I was, I think from also that Meisner thing, I think I took the other side of the coin of it and thought, hey, if it takes 20 years, I'm not really an actor. I'm just kind of doing this to practice. And if I get chances to do this, I hope they don't realize I ain't,

I'm not an actor yet and I think that gave me a kind of uh-oh terror and I think I overworked certain things and you know but yeah but that that relaxed over a time and you're right something like hey you know if I can't if I you know if it's not in me

That's the way it goes. And if it doesn't work, but you know, this is what I like doing and here it is. And somehow I'll find it. I will not, I don't have to get into some state of hyper, you know, some incredible state. I can do it. If I get a good night's sleep and pay attention to it and put a little effort into it, I can solve a problem in my way, one way or another, you know, that kind of thing.

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So, you know, on SNL, I think for all of us, and I'm sure as a host, it was really just controlling nerves. I mean, I think I was the most confident person

after I did 140 shows the night I stepped off of SNL was probably my best show from my point of view and it was just the 140 shows beat the shit out of my fear and anxiety and so I think for as a host especially did your second time hosting were you informed by the first time were you a little more confident the second time or both times were just like such an outer space experience I

Yeah, maybe at that point. What was that? That's like 30 years ago or 25 years ago. Hard to say. Yeah. You know, I was halfway there. I tried to get through it and I enjoyed myself. You know, I enjoyed myself. But like I say, I think I think I could do better. Yeah, I think that's true of everybody. You got to feel for it. It's such a like a horse race.

It's over before you know it. And if you're a control freak, I'm not saying you are. I'm just saying, you know, everyone's sort of a perfectionist in this business, but it

If you think for a second, you're going to be able to handle what's going on at all times. And, oh, I got to make sure my costume is perfect. Let me look at that sketch again and pick that. It's too fast. There's too much. You can't. You almost have to put your hands up and go. Just go. It's like the quick change. You do a sketch. You walk off and hold your hands up. They rip your clothes off. Put the next thing on you and go, this is one of you playing astronaut. Go. 15 seconds. And it's so exhilarating that the next time you go, I think I got to figure it out now. And you really don't.

Yeah, but you have to just let go and like Roland used to say, you know, lay back and giggle.

yeah, it's something, but you know, I think I kind of, that's, I like that. I think I would like even more of that whenever it's like, Hey, you can't possibly plan for this. Just give me something to kind of figure out right now and I'll do it. Watch this. I kind of, I think I like that kind of thing. Yeah. That was a, can I ask you, I don't know. I do this with guests. Cause I, I like putting people like you in context of when they were a young person. So,

I just like to know, you could go real quick if you want, a toy that you remember from your childhood that stood out, a bicycle that you might have had, and a movie or TV show that lit you up. And I'm talking your formative years, you know, 5 to 12, 13 years of age. You have five seconds. That's a very good question.

I remember I got an easel that I liked and some Crayolas that I really liked. I see my kid, one of them is particularly just obsessed with making marks on things. He loves painting. I got a sheriff that would automatically shoot you and some guns with plastic bullets. And if you got him before he got his guns up,

You would win this showdown. I like that. Oh, a helmet. My dad took me to every Steelers game in Pittsburgh. Oh, cool. We had season tickets. So when they got me, when I opened up those shoulder pads and a helmet that I could use with Bobby D and, again, people on the lawn, I loved that. Yes. So those toys, I loved that. And then TV shows. Oh, my gosh. There were so many shows.

TV shows. I used to watch talk shows. I used to watch, you know, in the daytime during the summer, Mike Douglas and Dinah Shore. I used to love everybody. I love comedians. I remember London Lee. We could talk about old comedians and London Lee. I would, you know, I was crazy about, you know, Shecky Green and Jack Carter and all

All those guys. I was crazy about that. Merv Griffin. But, you know, I liked then when Wild Wild West came on. Oh, my God. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Artemis Gordon. That first, that opening with those four squares. Those drawings.

killed me. That killed me too. Ross Martin and Robert Conrad, that just killed me. The Monkees, I was into the Monkees those years. Gilligan's Island, very into that. Andy Griffith, very into it. Dick Van Dyke, loved it. Keep going. Dick Van Dyke, Andy Griffith. Laugh in later. I loved it. The Stooges, I saw all the Stooges episodes, all the old Popeye cartoons, I loved. Oh yeah.

Oh, yeah. That's just some of the stuff I love. But they made a big impression. Hey, and when Playboy After Dark, I remember I was just burgeoning in my puberty. That was cool. And I found on that, you still had to, I had to find it by kind of fiddling with that dial and you'd get some static and then go, oh my God, I found it. I found it.

And they'd get out of the elevator. Oh, my gosh. Loved that. And did you have movies along that time, be it Planet of the Apes or Jason and the Argonauts? We're kind of from the same generation. I heard you talking about Jason and the Argonauts with Tom Hanks just today because I was listening to that. That made a big impression on me. Ray Harryhausen, I loved that tremendously. But because I've been thinking about movies...

about inviting people to back into the theater to see movies, you know. The way the Arclight used to do. They'd bring them back and you'd see them in the big screen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in the movie theaters instead of on TV. I've been going on for the last couple of weeks a kind of memory odyssey, and my sister has helped because we saw movies together. I wrote these three pages of all the movies that I can remember seeing when I was a kid.

Oh, can you read them? We won't interrupt you. Can you just read a bunch of them? Okay. First run movies. Some of these will be so oblique you won't know them, but some of them you will stop me if you have any interest in any of these. Ready? Okay.

Absent-minded professor, Fred McMurray, Flubber, you know. Wow. Yes. The blob, Steve McQueen. Oh, Steve McQueen's a star. Yep. Loved it. All the Jerry Lewis movies during the 60s, the Paramount years, Bellboy, Cinderfella, Disorderly Orderly, Visit to a Small Planet, Geisha Boy, Delicate Delinquent, Rockabye Baby, Nutty Professor.

Love those. Avant-garde genius. Avant-garde acid humor. Jerry Lewis movies in the 60s. And then I got a chance to meet him. I was going to play his son in Max Rose. So I hung out in Vegas with him for a couple hours. Absolutely amazing. We'll talk about that.

That's great. The sterile cuckoo with Liza Minnelli, Georgie girl, Lynn Redgrave. Yeah. Even these idols would never make the cut today. Bridge on the river quiet. Yeah. First run. Couldn't believe it. Loved it. Dana loves it. Love that.

Colonel Bogey. Brilliant. Brilliant. Yeah. I saw it recently. That's a better movie than I even realized then. A real kind of war is madness. You know, anybody, any human being like Bill Holden, who involves himself with a war like that, changes and becomes inhuman. Yes. And you're going to parse out when you show these movies to your kids, because I showed my one of my sons, Bridger of the River Kwai, I think eight, nine, ten something blew his mind.

Well, that's a good question. I'd love to know what movies you show them when, because I'm going through that a lot. I'm very passionate about that. Man who shot Liberty Valance when it first came out. Man, Lee Marvin was so brilliant in that. So scary. The coolest, weirdest bad guy. Oh, my gosh. And Strother Martin and Lee Van Cleef in his gang. And Woody Strode. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

Oh, we got a failure to communicate. Yeah. Yeah. Well, cool hand Luke. Uh, we saw with a full night. Unbelievable. What a stunt Paul Newman was. What a stunt. Toughest guy in Hollywood. The only guy who could go in the sweat box. He drank 24 Budweiser's a day. No one could last in the sweat box as long as him. I know from his, his assistant on that movie. Really? Yeah. Yeah. He was a tough guy. He could get in the, he'd go in the bathtub with ice with a straw and

and he would come out and he was just paul newman i mean it was just like they just say he's the toughest toughest guy because who's the toughest guy they go all the stuntmen would go no it's newman newman was the toughest guy he could take the most pain no kidding that's what i was told yeah he's right for that part then we've got so much to talk about hud the family saw together and uh hud yeah go ahead with your list i love your list sweet charlotte that's joan crawford and betty davis together

Yes. Gay Paris. It's a it's a it's a an animated movie. Robert Goulet sang in it. The first I was I was at the right age when Dr. No and from Russia with Love and Goldfinger and Thunderbolt came out. I had changed my life. I was crazy about them. Forget about it. Our man Flint and in like Flint. Unbelievable. James Coburn. Yeah. James Coburn. Remember what the telephone sounded like in the office?

Yeah. I don't know. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was Flint one of those comedies or not?

oh yeah you haven't seen those those are like you know the beginning of austin powers you know that's like taking j was the first time james bond had been satirized like that i do believe yeah yeah and they had the dean martin ones too that he was doing yes yes yeah yeah matt helm yeah i saw the first time pink panther was shown with that henry mancini opening and clusso wow 1964. yeah so memorable 64 psycho my friend bobby d and i went to see psycho

Unbelievable. Terrifying. Brilliant. Hard day's night. I had this crush on this girl. They were going, there's a field trip. We saw the Richard Lester Beatles movie. Unbelievable. Oh, I can't believe you liked it. Go ahead. 30 seconds, Jeff. Keep going. Love that. That's all? Yeah. No, no, no. I'll give you a minute.

Okay. Diary of a Madman, Tomb of Lygia. This is Vincent Price. I was a teenage Frankenstein. I was a teenage werewolf. Eegah, The Sadist, King Kong vs. Godzilla. Gigo with Jackie Gleason. First movie I cried at. Gleason had those moves. Sinbad, another. Vertigo. First time Vertigo was shown. Hitchcock. Amazing.

The birds. Yeah. Time machine. Time machine. Oh, yeah. Loved it. Yvette Mimou. Weena. Hey, do you guys remember? Do you guys remember a movie after the Fox?

Yeah. It was a World War II movie or no? I recommend that you go back and look at After the Fox. It's Peter Sellers. Vittorio De Sica, Bicycle Thieves, directed it. Neil Simon's first screenplay. Burt Bacharach writes the music. Peter Sellers sings the title song, After the Fox. It's great. That sounds awesome. It's great.

I have a lot of affection for it. Attack of the Giants. Gunfight at OK Corral. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No fly.

Come fly with me. The fly. Hey, under the yum yum tree. How about under the yum yum tree with Jack Lemmon? Jack Lemmon. Yeah, he was awesome. Night of the Living Dead. Bye Bye Birdie. Breakfast at Tiffany's. The Incredible Mr. Limpet with Don Knotts. I saw it at the Laurel Theater when I was nine or ten. Loved it. I love your list, by the way. I've never met a movie fan as big as you. Bring that list to dinner.

I want to bring it. Gone with the Wind, My Bad, Cool Handler, HUD, Elvira Madigan, Billy, I Am Curious Yellow, Thomas Crown Affair, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, Easy Rider, Bonnie and Clyde, In the Heat of the Night, The Miracle Worker in Cold Blood, Wait Until Dark, Paper Moon, The Last Picture Show, Guess Who's Coming,

She was coming to dinner. Lilies of the Field. Odd Couple. It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. The Graduate. MASH. Splendor in the Grass. Rosemary's Baby. The Apartment. Midnight Cowboy. What you casting the sun on? Yes. Funny Girl. Father Goose. Patch of Blue. A bunch of Cassavetes movies. Shadows. Faces. The List of Adrian Messenger. The Boston Strangler. Myra Breckenridge. Raphael Welch. X-rated. Yes. Nasty. Rex Reed. Yeah.

Medium, cool, Morgan. They shoot horses, don't they? Jane Fonda. Yeah. What's new, pussycat? Can Hieronymus Merkin ever forget? Mercy Hump and find true love. Wow. I'm going to ask you one question before we... That's the best resume I've ever heard. Do they make them like they used to? I have to ask you. Because that list brings me back. They do sometimes. There's genius out there. There are a lot of bad movies on that. There's some good movies. There's some terrific movies now.

And, you know, it's everywhere. But what a world. I love that you read us that list. That brought me back to just so many memories. I could talk for 20 minutes on at least 50 of those. I can, too, with you guys. I really want to arrange a date. We have a restaurant that we won't name it, but it's close by. And that's where we take all of us. It's close to all of us. It's very quiet and dark and you can have a good conversation. So we would love that, Jeff.

Yeah, let's do it. And good luck with the movie. Let's do it. Thank you so, so much. Good luck with everything there. And another great movie in 2022. Jurassic Park, World Dominion. The gang is back. Okay. You're so nice. Take care, buddy. Great to see you guys. Thanks. Loved it. Thank you.

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Hey, what's up, flies? What's up, fleas? What's up, people that listen? We want to hear from you and your dumb questions. Questions, ask us anything. Anything you want. You can email us at flyonthewallatcadence13.com. These are questions that people ask us and pretend they care if we answer. All right. Okay, go ahead. This is from Steffi Laffy Taffy. Her name is Laffy, her last name. Steffi Laffy Taffy. I like that. I would call her that all day. Okay. Why don't we hear more about workplace romance at SNL?

That's, they're always like a 12 parter. Is this an environment that just doesn't produce that tension? Is there way more than we don't know? What? Is this an environment that just doesn't produce that tension? There is workplace tension.

Romance. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, aside from the obvious ones, like Emma Stone is married to a writer from there? Yes. Scar Jo is married to Colin Jo. Yeah. And Pete and Kim. So that, but when I was there,

It was, first of all, you weren't supposed to talk to the host like that. You weren't supposed to even be in the same room with the host. You don't get to walk in their dressing room. The bad boys came in. You guys, the girls loved you. Phil and I and John Lovitz and Mike Myers, believe me, there was not a lot of action on that. I was married. Phil was married. John and Lovitz and Mike Myers were married for a brief period of time. I think we were all single. Let me see. Oh, yeah. I remember I did have a crush on Marissa Tomei when she was there.

After my cousin Vinny, she came in to host and she was so adorable. Looked through me like a bar of used Neutrogena. I got hit on whenever I did

The church lady, that's when people would hit on her. That's when the chicks would come out of the woodwork. I remember, but like our hosts are like Glenn Close and we were 25 and, you know, I saw Farley, oh, he's hitting on Glenn Close. He wasn't hitting on her, but his flirting, he wasn't drinking at the time and he used to chug beers in front of girls to look cool. And so he had like a water, a Diet Coke and we were all by 8H.

And he goes, hey, go in close. And then she's just, and then he goes like this. And he drinks the whole thing. As a seduction? Yeah, and then she goes, mm. And then she goes, I think I got it over here, so. And then I go, are you chugging that to look cool? He goes, yeah. Yeah.

He thought it was cool to chug. And did anything happen at the after party? I mean, I don't know if we're talking out of turn here. No, nothing. I just think he was just more trying to be cool. That's just Chris being Chris. But yeah, so there's your answer. There are workplace romances at SNL, and that's a good question, even though you obviously don't know about the three big ones that are out there. So next time, really think before the question. But mostly, we're...

SNL cast members are trying to survive moment to moment. You're not thinking about getting action. You're just trying not to get fired at all times. Yeah.

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