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David Spade: 本期节目采访了Maya Rudolph,讨论了她的喜剧生涯、在《周六夜现场》的经历以及她对生活的积极态度。Spade分享了他对Airbnb的喜爱,以及在《周六夜现场》工作期间的一些趣事,包括接到Mick Jagger的电话要求写笑话的经历,以及Lauren Michaels如何直接将工作人员与大牌明星联系起来。他还谈到了Maya Rudolph在《Loot》中的角色,以及她作为演员的受欢迎程度。 Dana Carvey: Carvey分享了他对Maya Rudolph的欣赏,以及他偏爱与积极乐观的人合作的经历。他回忆了与Maya Rudolph在《周六夜现场》后台的互动,以及他如何更看重合作对象的性格而非其喜剧才能。他还谈到了在影视剧拍摄中,与合拍的演员相处融洽的重要性,以及他更喜欢团队合作并从与他人合作中获得乐趣。 Maya Rudolph: Rudolph分享了她对喜剧的热爱,以及她在《周六夜现场》早期尝试将Groundlings的喜剧风格融入节目,但效果不佳的经历。她谈到了如何在《周六夜现场》学习到如何根据不同的环境调整自己的喜剧风格,以及在排练和正式演出中,都需要让观众笑出来才能成功。她还分享了在《周六夜现场》工作期间收到过许多来自监狱的粉丝来信,以及她对工作环境的看法,认为并非像传闻中那样充满竞争和压力。她还谈到了她对扮演Kamala Harris角色的感受,以及她对积极乐观的生活态度。 David Spade: This episode features an interview with Maya Rudolph, covering her comedic career, her time on Saturday Night Live, and her positive outlook on life. Spade shares his fondness for Airbnbs and recounts some funny anecdotes from his time on SNL, including receiving a call from Mick Jagger requesting jokes and how Lauren Michaels would directly connect staff with A-list celebrities. He also discusses Maya Rudolph's role in 'Loot' and her popularity as an actress. Dana Carvey: Carvey shares his appreciation for Maya Rudolph and his preference for collaborating with positive and optimistic people. He recalls interactions with Maya Rudolph backstage at SNL and how he values a collaborator's personality more than their comedic talent. He also talks about the importance of getting along with fellow actors on film sets and his preference for teamwork and finding joy in collaboration. Maya Rudolph: Rudolph shares her love for comedy and her early attempts on SNL to integrate the comedic style of Groundlings into the show, which proved unsuccessful. She discusses learning to adapt her comedic style to different environments on SNL and the necessity of making the audience laugh during rehearsals and performances. She also shares receiving fan mail from prison during her time on SNL and her perspective on the work environment, finding it not as competitive and stressful as rumored. She also talks about her experience playing Kamala Harris and her positive outlook on life.

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The hosts discuss the appeal of Airbnb over traditional hotels, highlighting privacy and the home-like environment.

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Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's- Because they're naked? Well, it's like the 1800th time you say, on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there. I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it. Guys, Maya Rudolph's on the show today, who we love. Dana's munching. I-

I got to go to Hawaii with Maya when her daughter Pearl was just squirted out. Literally, I cut the cord on the plane. And then we had fun there. And then I saw them. She and PTA were there during Wrong Missy at the beginning. They were just there in Hawaii. So we got to see them. But she's always obviously a super talent. And now I have a story for you, Dana, before you talk.

I'm just thinking about the umbilical cord because I cut the umbilical cord. Of her? No, of my own wife, dummy. And how'd it go? Well, they give you gloves that are the exact same color of the umbilical cord. So when my two fingers are down there and I've got scissors, it's like three umbilical cords. Three little hot dogs. Three umbilical cords. I'm like, when I went in, I didn't know if I was going to get it on my finger.

And then you get the bill, you go, hey, you didn't knock off anything for my work. So newsflash, how about bright red gloves for the guy cutting the umbilical cord so he can- What color is an umbilical cord? The audience wants to know. Oh, I don't know. We'll let Maya answer. We talk about that. Oh, yeah. We get into that. Also, I want to tell Dana that when you're on SNL, we didn't get to this with Maya, but Lauren sometimes-

We'll call you out of the blue. Now I'm lower on the totem pole than this guy. I was more of a journeyman. But Lauren calls me out of the blue, maybe two, three years in. They go, Lauren's calling. I go, I'm back in LA. I go, yeah? Hello? And he goes, David, uh, Lauren. Yes, the girl told me. And then he goes, David, Mick Jagger is doing something for something. And he has to give like a little monologue speech. Do you think you'd have any...

I think you'd be someone that knows music. You could throw in stuff. And I go, I don't know. When's he doing it? And what is it? And then I hear, hello? He puts Mick on. Oh. And I go, oh. Hello? I need some jokes. Yeah, he goes, I need some fucking rib ticklers. I need a pun or something. A nice joke for me. Don't give me your fucking regular dog shit I seen in your act. Give me the good stuff. Top shelf. Yeah.

So I sat there and tried to pitch some fucking bullshit. Don't hog the jokes for yourself. Give it to me or Mick Jagger. Maybe put a little wiggle wiggle in it. It fold. He goes, I can wiggle wiggle. I go, oh, you should do the TikTok dance. All your hips again, move and sway side to side. Hang on. I'm not doing Mick Jagger at all. I'm not even close to Mick Jagger. But it was just to say that we were talking earlier about that, like,

it's sort of interesting that, first of all, Lauren has all these big deal friends. And then when you get pulled into the mix, suddenly I'm on the phone. He just puts them on. You talk. And then mix, mix, almost nervous pitching me ideas because to anyone else, to a comedian, he doesn't really know what level I am. He just heard I was a writer. You know, he goes, he might write some good jokes. So he's kind of going, what about this? What about this? And I'm saying this. Anyway, he won't remember. So don't ask him because he'll deny it. But, and because it didn't happen. But, yeah.

Maya Rudolph is a... I was going to tell Mike. Oh, yeah. Dana, hold for Keith Richards. Really? He's going to do the monologue. Oh, he's got to do it again. Hi, Keith. I don't even know if I have anything. That's all right. That's mine. Then it got worse over the years. Hold for Hanson. Hold for Hanson.

You think we should go with Mbop or Bleep Blop? Hey, Dana, it's Kelsey Grammer. If you can't do an impression, young people, just say the name of the person you're doing. Hold for Urkel. This is Mick Jacob. Hold for Urkel.

Hold for Urkel? Yeah. Why my name's Urkel? That's Urkel. Well, I'm Urkel. Oh, he's got us. He has suspenders. He has suspenders. I'm the good shit. I am officially getting punchy. I apologize to our listeners. Yeah, we've been here for 14 hours doing this. Anyway, Maya Rudolph, we love her. She sings. She dances. She does all these great characters. She's doing her show right now called Go. Loot.

two billboards on Sunset and we get into that. Everyone Loves Maya is a show that I'm going to pitch to her.

All the women I know in my life love Maya. She's like someone to – it's like someone if you sat down for lunch, you'd be like really, really happy. Exactly. That was Lauren talking about Maya. Maya, Amy, Tina. Because she's just a fun – That little squadron is a hit. And she will – one thing that stood out for me is this talking about doesn't have time for –

Fools or jerks or angry people Oh, that's right Wants to enjoy her work So anyway, it's a very, very cool interview We really enjoyed hanging out with her Here she is Did you hear the lightning? What lightning? Oh, we had a lot of lightning Power outages, all kinds of stuff Are you in LA? I'm in LA, yeah, I'm in David's place Lightning in LA, yeah West Hollywood, just everything went out

Yeah. This goes out to the world. So my address is, if you'd like, it's at the corner of, it's usually unlocked. Maya Rudolph is our guest today. I'm in New York, Spady. What's going on there? Why do you have to be there? Well, I come here for the fun, you know? I come here for the fun. Well, you're never not working, so what would you be working on? Nice one. I came to do a...

And that's Fallon. That's and I did it for Jim and he loves it. My, my, uh,

Apple show Loot is coming out on Friday, so I'm promoting it this week. Oh, that's right. L-O-O-T on Apple. You do a lot of shows. I like all your shows. You're with Fred, you're with friends, you're at camp, you're by the lake with all the ladies, and now you're... Who's in Loot with you? Yeah, Loot is... She gets $82 billion. $87. $87 billion. And then she gets... She finds out she's in charge of...

a charity that she wasn't quite aware of, a foundation. Spades makes it seem like he was very good at his book reports. This is my book report struggling through in front of the class. Then you're married. These aren't spoilers. They're in the trailer. Your husband cheats on you and you get money, but you don't really know what to do with your life because you sort of live a... I like it. It's the reverse Meg Markle story. Yeah.

I'm playing Meg Markle. So then you're trying to help the world and also help yourself. Spade, that was lovely. Thank you so much for sharing with the class. That was great. What did I get, a B? You got an A for effort. But I see loot billboards and I go, oh, there's Maya, of course. One million things she does because she's just the most in-demand actress. We're going to call you the busiest actress.

actress in Hollywood. She really is. And you know why? Because she adds to everything. So, if you throw her in no matter what, the lead...

Any part she scores, and it's just more about her picking and deciding. She seems to be very good at whatever she does. I'm just going to observe that. You can disagree, but... I agree, Dana. You seem to be excellent. No, Dana, I just want to hear you. That's really nice to hear you say. I know Spade loves me, but Dana, you already know I love you, so it's very exciting to hear you say that. Every interaction I've had with you has been positive, always.

over the years at SNL, at Largo. You're just cool. I don't know. You know what? You actually, I know it sounds like kind of trivial, but that's actually a very big element for me. It's like, if it's not positive, I'm not interested.

Yes. I think even, yes, during the Great Reset and after the pandemic, I'm not into negativity. I just want positivity. I think it's a cultural shift. I was probably before that. Like, I noticed that I was the dork that, like, when people would say, like, who's your favorite host on SNL? Like, who's your favorite? I would always say, like, I was such a sucker. I was like, well, so-and-so was really nice. You know, like, if someone was really nice, I'd like them.

Like I didn't care really if they were funny, but like if they weren't difficult or, you know, if they were like a kind person, I was like, you know what? They were really great. I really enjoyed that. I think I hosted, I think it was Jimmy's fourth show. Did you come in with Jimmy Fallon or you were earlier? I came in after Jimmy. You hosted once when I was there though. Yeah. And I remember hanging out with you and the bleachers in 8-H. Yeah.

And you just turned to me and you said, you're nice. You're really nice. You know, like, yeah, something like that. See, I told you, it's a real comedy turn on for me. I really like it. I don't like when people are mean or snarky. It's not...

It's not enjoyable for me. It makes my butt hole tight in a bad way. Yeah, I have the same experience. When you do work as much as we all do different things, I think we've all been in a situation where you're on a show, you're somewhere where you're kind of stuck, like a movie or a show, and you know it's going to be days. And you realize, because you never meet anyone really until maybe a read-through or on the set. And if you get a weird vibe, you're like, oh my God, is this shit going to be like this the whole time? I'll be on eggshells.

So you try to work with people and people go, why do you do movies with people you know? Or it's just such a simple answer because you know what you're getting, you know, they're already cool or you wouldn't do it again. And I also feel like I'm not as funny on my own because I'm, I'm sketch lady. I'm not a standup. So I prefer a team sport and I like, I feel funnier when I'm with people that make me laugh. So I, I, I feed off of that energy. So I need to,

to be like genuinely enjoying myself or it's a real downer for me. I don't, I totally agree. I'm completely with you. And I feel like I was a sketch player before,

but I became a standup. There wasn't any improv troops in San Francisco at the time that I would join, but with David or you or anyone, yeah, it gets you going. And I, uh, I think that joyfulness maybe is underrated and, you know, there's certain camps that like, if it's frustrating or people are angry, it's going to be a better project. But I just think joy wins. Yeah. I don't want to be like, you know, Mickey Rourke and, uh,

What's her name? Nine and a half weeks. Making nine and a half weeks. Like did he. Kary Otis or somebody. Didn't he like eat a raw onion before he kissed Kim Basinger? Like meat. Like I heard crazy. That's my trick.

That's how you lure them in. I share a raw onion with my wife after lovey-dovey time. And that's just a picadillo that we have. What about, Maya, have you ever been in a situation where, well, you're two things. You're from, I think, Groundlings. And when you're from that collaborative fun and you get to SNL, I think people we've talked to, because Dana and I are dopey stand-ups, but it's less of a harsh transition situation

than it was for us because it doesn't mean we're not collaborative. It just, that's not what we're doing every second. Absolutely. And you guys get there and it's a little smoother. Well, it's a little mini SNL, right? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And then you bring your sketches fully formed to the show. I assume in the early days of the show. Yeah. I mean, I tried to bring grounding sketches there early on and I, and, uh, that, that, um,

led with the resounding thud at the table. But what I learned is that like, you know, it's, you have to write for the room. So like once I learned how to take those pieces, like if there was a character that I really liked or a premise that I really liked and make them work for that room, because every room is different. So- Are you saying the read-through room or 8-H? I guess, I guess-

Both. Yeah. But you're making a good point that I hadn't thought about. Well, you have to get past that read-through, which is pretty wicked. Like, I never wrote to, like, you know, just write for the table so that I'd get it in. Like, I guess it was for both, but, like...

you have to be laughing at the table or else it doesn't work. Yeah, you try to write for people at home, but that's not the politics of it. And that is the first time someone said, Dana had a good point, by the way, just on the side. That was very nice of you. I think also, which we've talked about, but it's very interesting to me, is that you don't want to

be too theatrical in the read-through room. It can come off like a turnoff or kind of sweaty. But sometimes you have to get up and sing a song or move around to show the room. But everyone's from Harvard and Yale, kind of. Everyone is like super smart and they can see you're pushing too hard. There's a whole energy to that. And then 8H is its own monster or beautiful place, depending on how you're doing. Wait, Maya, do you think... Go ahead, you go, Maya. Wait, go ahead. No, no, no, go ahead. Mine was more of a large...

I like big, big questions. People like when we don't let the guests talk. You know, Dana, I think we have a connection. We've been friends for a long time. And for this episode of fly on the wall, we've partnered with eHarmony, which isn't us. eHarmony is a dating app to find someone you can be yourself with. We are not dating. Want to clarify that, but the connection is what you want in a dating partner. Um,

Just someone like, if you found someone that listened to this podcast, that's somewhat of a connection. And then you sort of build on that. You want someone with some common ground. Yeah. It's not, it, look, if you want to connect romantically over, you know, super fly or fly on the wall, uh,

It just makes us happy. You don't want to be watching The Godfather and the person next to you goes, this movie sucks. You want to- So dumb. Yeah. You want to connect on all issues and harmonize in life. Similar sensibility, similar sense of humor, and similar sense of sense. I don't like when they watch The Godfather and they're like, everyone in this movie is so old. I'm like, they're 40.

Watch 2001 Space Odyssey. Too much of this movie is in outer space. I don't like it. When do they land? When do they land? Why is that stupid red light acting so silly? Who's friends with a robot? We know dating isn't easy. That's why we partnered with eHarmony because dating is different on eHarmony. They want you to find someone who gets you, someone you can be comfortable with.

Yeah. I mean, the whole idea is you're going to take a compatibility quiz, helps your personality come out in your profile, which makes all the profiles on eHarmony way more interesting and fun to read. So I think this is the goal of dating sites, and I think eHarmony does it great. It's just finding somebody you're compatible with.

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My question was, if you have a grounding sketch and people are aware of it, is there sort of a stink on it where they're against it a little bit when you bring it in? Or do you just like, when they brought in, there's sketches that were read when I was there where I didn't know. And it almost gets more of a fair shot if they don't know anything. I would say probably. I think it depends. I mean, I'm trying to unlock my memory now.

capabilities of 20 fucking years ago. So I don't, I don't know. 70 for me and Dana. That's the most honest answer we've ever had on the podcast. I was just going to say just in general is like just a, an excited acknowledgement of like, it's, you know, I mean, I've talked to you guys about us and all before it's kind of all I ever want to talk about with people that know it well, I find it most continuously fascinating and,

topic, but it's so interesting to me to talk to other people that were there at a different time, because we're of the same fraternity, sorority, college, university, whatever it is for everybody, but we were there at different times. So we were there in different eras. So

Like, Dana, I might have told you this, but I think I found one of your sketches in my old desk in my office. And I think it was on a yellow legal pad. I'm not kidding. That would be normal. Yeah. But I wonder how you got a hold of it. Unless I cleared out. Maybe you were in my office. I got an old desk that I. Oh, OK. And it was in there. Oh, man. I think I saved it. I'm saving it for like Sotheby's or something. Yeah.

That's interesting. Oh, it's so interesting. I mean, the history is so interesting to me because it was such a like exciting place to get to. And then once I got there, all the people that I loved already had like touched it. So it was so exciting. And like, I mean, when I got there, we were all using those, they were still using Mac SE 30s, you know, those like, I think it's like the computer people in college, but like that was when we had a server, but like,

You weren't using a server when you were there? Oh, no. It was all pencil and paper. And then you'd hand it in. Someone else would type it. We had those madman girls. There was four girls in the room. Honestly, just typing. And you'd put your sketch in the pile. And they'd write their name on the top so you know who typed it. And you go to Claire and say, Claire, did you do this? Can you even understand my writing? And they sort of understood everyone's, the way they wrote. And I'd have to hand my sketch in, Dana. Like, let's say you write till two or three, whatever, on Tuesday night.

I know I was a puss. I'd hand it in. This is why I was going to go all night. I was, I left at 8am even when I had a baby.

Oh, well, you won that one. It became a badge of honor. You stay late. It's crazy. Listen, let's not focus on the fact that I'm a colossal pussy. I handed my sketch in and then I took a cab to the Upper West Side to go home and sleep four hours. And then I'd come back in, especially if I didn't finish my sketch, I'd come back in and hand it in or I'd come and they'd go, can you tweak this? And I'd come all the way back and then go all the way home and then come back for a read-through. That killed me. That was tight.

Yeah, that was typing. So I'd hand it in freehand and they wouldn't understand it. They'd have to be able to call me in the middle of the night and go, can you explain what this arrow means? And they go, this sketch is garbage. Do you want us to finish it? That was most of the calls. We're halfway through it. It looks like it's got, it kind of reeks already. But you know, Maya, when you say that about

what you found. I had an old red binder. I don't know if Dana, you might have that. It's hard red binder and it said SNL on the front, like in a circle. And then you'd put your script in it if you wanted. And the director had one and the cast barely ever used it. But,

I got home and found that when I moved recently. And I found an old rundown. You get the rundown after dress and the rundown for air. And it says cold open this, this, this, and the times next to it or whatever. And Buh-Bye was on, it was the Helen Hunt show. And so I saw all that and it was all these memories. Each sketch you look, even if it was a dress one, you go, oh, that one got cut. Oh, that one's good. Oh, that got moved up on air, I remember. Yeah.

Very like a wash of memories hitting you like, oh my God, like right there. I love it. So Maya, can I ask you a question? Yeah. Were you of the ilk of very meticulously organized with your binder and your office or were you more toward controlled chaos? Some were very neat and some were just like wild. I never had a binder. I guess I was like the last person

I was like the beginning of that like computer generation, but like still innocent. Like we didn't have social media. I think there were probably like forums. So people would write weird shit about us. But other than that, like. Or fan mail. Yeah. Fan mail from jail. Got a lot of fan mail from jail.

That was the only family I got. And it was like, you and Sherry O'Terry are hot. Yeah. Well, that's scary. David got that a lot too. Or like, is Sherry O'Terry nice? I got a lot of those. A lot of those. But I was, I've never been an organized person, but I'm not, I'm not like a slob. I'm not slovenly, but I'm not...

you know what i would say that i'm probably being overly critical and to an outsider i probably look organized especially like the like the the emily spivey and i shared an office for the majority of the time that i was there so that was like a pretty consistent office partner i had other partners but i um but she and i had an office together for the majority of time and like we put posters on the wall and like

she had her desk i had mine we like salvaged a couch that wasn't covered in like the semen from the 70s you know so and the 80s and the 80s but i i can safely say i had no action in my office for the solid six years god no nothing that's true i'm from the i'm from a fairly sober generation too like that's the other thing that's funny like

And I'm sure people who knows what people were doing. I mean, I'm such a I'm such a grandma. But at a certain point, I was even pregnant when I was there. So like I, you know, I was I feel like in general, other than people going out to drink, like I was a pretty like.

i feel like the majority of people i was especially the girls that i worked with the women that i worked with were like good students you had a lot of strong women um yeah like i just feel like we were everyone was always like in a tither about us but i just think like we were all kind of similar in our upbringing and like we were like good daughters good students like earnest yeah like we all like came from sketch so we knew how to work with other people

You know, because I'd heard other rumors that like it was scary and like... Competitive. Yeah. And I just, I don't work that way. And I also don't work well that way. Like I would just, if it had been that way for me, like if I'd been there at a different time, I would not have, I don't think I would have survived. So who did you, I mean, it seemed like the pivot to like when Tina Fey...

And then there was you, and I don't know what order. And then there was Amy, of course. And before that, Anacostia. There were so many...

strong, funny women. I don't know. It just seemed to accelerate in terms of numbers. When I got there, well, it was already accelerated because when I got there, Molly and Sherry and Anna were still in the cast. Crushed. It was already Crush City. Yeah. Yeah. Was that hard? There's so many women because sometimes I think when I was there, it was a little less women than Dana and that was a big problem. Like,

We need more women. We need more women for the parts. But the women that were there got lots of parts that were thrown in everything. I mean, I think that I learned the hard way that like, because we were all writing, you know, that like you have to write your own stuff. So it wasn't hard if your stuff was strong and you got it on. But to me, it was more like, I mean, I look at the show now and I'm like, you have like 20, 21 white guys, like.

Yeah. How can anybody be on the show and get any airtime ever? There should be. We've talked to some people that have been there quite a while and there's still a log jam. Well, now it's not just that it's a huge cast. And then it's also like for, uh,

four pre-tapes a week, which I mean, I would be dead. Yeah. They do a lot of pre-tapes. Yeah, you drive out to Long Island at four in the morning. You're like, wait, this is a show week. I can't do anything else. I can't even function. And then it takes you away from writing or something. One time, oh, forget it.

I had a sob story. I remember one time. Oh, I can't wait. No, I was doing Conehead's applause. And Conehead's was sort of jury duty for all of us because Lauren said it was paramount. Everyone was in it and we all had a part. And then I had to do a pickup. So I had to do a pickup during a John Goodman show. And they go, you fly out to LA, you go to Disney Ranch,

Yeah, you fly out in a red eye, you wake up, you shoot at Disney Ranch all day, and then you're going to miss Friday or Thursday or something. You come in for the show, you know. Okay. And I'm so light in the show, fine.

So I fly, I fly on the, on the red eye. Letterman is in first class. This is another side story. And he goes, and I don't, I don't know Letterman. I've only done the show once. So I'm totally in awe. And they go to me, the stewardess goes, should I wake you for honey buns? And I go, no, no, I'm going to sleep. And then. Honey buns? Yeah, I guess. First class. Wake up. I'm more confounded by the honey buns. Yeah.

So then Letterman gets up, they're taxing, he gets up to go to the bathroom at the last second and he stops and puts his hand on my leg and goes, "Should I wake you for honey buns?"

Honey buns? What airline was this? I know, American. American. And so then we go there and I land. I can't sleep. I get up. We drive to Disney Ranch. They grease my hair back. I do a couple of crusher scenes, whatever, killing. These are other people's words. You're destroyed. And then I get all the way back home to my dog shit apartment. And this is, you know, obviously like five or six. I order a Domino's on the way. I land. I take one bit, bite, and Shoemaker calls. And he goes-

hey, Lauren wants you back. And I go, well, he doesn't, but also I'm coming tomorrow. I just finished shooting. He goes, he wants you back. You got a car out front. You got to come back. I go, you're out of your fucking mind. I got to go now. Back to Disney Ranch? Back to New York. Oh,

Oh, back to New York. I go, I just got home. I got to go to bed and I got to get up and then fly back. Can I ask Maya a question? Oh, sorry. Finish your thought, David. Jesus. What? I got ADD. What? Is Maya the guest or am I? I'm just curious when jumping around here, because you had this huge Kamala Harris thing you did that I think you, did you win an Emmy? I don't know. You have a lot of awards. You have two Emmys.

And nominations and things. I only won Emmys during quarantine. So it feels like during COVID. So it feels like a fever dream. It seems like you won a lot. Are you counting the last five? So you won for Kamala Harris. Okay, I won four Emmys during lockdown. Four Emmys? Four Emmys during lockdown. Sorry, two during lockdown, two the fall. What the fuck? You have COVID or...

Pandemics and awards just kind of are married when it comes to Maya. I got really hot during the pandemic. Luckily, awards mean nothing to me. Now we know you have a big family and you're busy. How were you? I was just to David's thing. How were you flying back and forth? Because at one point, Lauren called me before the start of that political season, just out of the blue, like on a Thursday. We need you like yesterday. You'll do Biden.

And I had even tried to do Biden. I had even thought of doing Biden. I had to do something else, so I didn't do it. And then Jim Carrey did his first. He was the first one to kind of do it for that season, right? It was Jim Carrey. Yeah. But then it's just for travel first, besides the creative part of it. Were you just going back and forth or were you able to stay in New York? I was going back and forth for the most part. The week of the election, I stayed there.

in New York, but I was going back and forth every weekend. Yeah. When would you come in for Friday and Saturday or the whole week? I would come in for like Thursday or Friday. Yeah. And that was pretty, pretty early. That was pretty early days of COVID and COVID.

I was very scared. And I was also scared about my kids and I wasn't vaccinated yet. And we didn't even know if they would get back. My kids would get vaccinated anytime soon. So I was pretty nervous, Nellie, about the whole thing. And it was really actually quite comforting to be in 30 Rock because I

I think like anything, I mean, I experienced this having a baby and then coming back to work, which was like anything familiar, even if it's hard, it's more comforting. So like being in that building, especially when there was a global pandemic, weirdly felt comforting because it was familiar. I knew where to go. It feels normal. It felt normal. Yeah. And so, but that, I say that to say like those first shows were pretty gnarly in terms of like,

Cue cards were on the third floor. So we weren't really seeing changes sometimes. I think one of the first shows, we didn't see the changes until we were on air. And that was tough. It is weird. But it was, you know, like, again, to me, that like weird...

you know, like rushed that I get from that place that, that is familiar was okay. And I knew it would be okay. Whereas like, I assumed somebody like Jim was like, what the fuck are we doing? Like, what's going on? This isn't, this is madness. Do you find that Lauren, cause I was just thinking about,

his personality and he is with his droll sense of humor he is he's he never gets you know thrown out i've only seen him just very calm and i don't know what he said when he first came back but he must have said something pithy to relax you and you you do kamala and you know i don't know just that that vibe is kind of comforting that's a big part of his also can i just say for the record that he

you, you've the best Lorne I've ever heard. Whoa. Um, I, I think this is very, sorry. I put you on the spot. I can't do it. Like if I'm, if I'm like old and like, or if I'm like in a bad data, will you come, will you come talk to me? Like, I would talk to you like Lorne. It's that thing. My, you know, you're like really loved. And it's, it's, it's sort of, it's like a victory lap. Oh,

I have hornisms. My heartbeat just got like calmer and I feel warm everywhere. Oh, that's nice. I mean, I started doing it when I got there after about four months and I didn't know anyone else was doing it, but it was really, which I've said before, in the Wednesday meeting, picking the sketches.

You know, some sketches off to the side. There's a big bulletin board. And he would say, that was my first in all. I still have no fucking first act. And then he would go in his private bathroom and come back out. And he'd say, Whitney's piece of the pig and the goat. Anybody? I don't know. Anybody I liked. And then Lauren would go, I thought it was breathtaking. Oh, it's so good.

Breathtaking. We love him. He's very popular on our show. He gets shinier and brighter as you get away from the show and you're kind of more aware of what he's having to balance. I'm a nibbler, Dana, and I think you are too, but you always know me that I just have to keep the energy going. And I think because I learned from my dad, pistachios are a good source of just, you know, nibble, wake you up.

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Who, the character of Kamala Harris, and didn't you sometimes have a cup with a straw in it? There was a casual kind of, there was some kind of character you made from Kamala. I think it was like a Mai Tai or a daiquiri or a lot of type drink. Played her as this character that was based on Kamala, which was sort of, it was incredibly potent what you were doing. This super confident person.

Or how did you come up with that? You know, I, first of all, I just want to say for the record that I just met her in person for the first time ever. And I don't know if you experienced this playing political people on the show. And then you meet them. But they would, you know, during the elections, everyone would come through the building. So you would get to cross paths with sometimes with the people that you were playing. But I never met.

i never got to do that and then i just thought like well i'll never meet her it's coveted and i did just get to meet her and then weirdly like at a dinner then someone was asking like how do you play her and i had to like say it in front of her humiliating although i realized i was saying to her you know i'm not an impressionist i've never been an impressionist like i i think i do impressions of people but i i think the reason why her impression is that way is because

Kamala is like, she's, she's, I'm fascinated by her. Like, again, back to that thing that we were talking about, Dan, like I've found the joy in playing her in like the same way. I think like,

like dress up as like princesses or like play, like, so, you know, like, like Luke Skywalker, you know, I know my references are dated, but you get it. Like, no, but I get this, this sense of fun. I mean, when you, when I was watching you watch Duke Kamala, it's just like, Maya is having so much fun.

and it's joyful. And so it's hard. It's, you just want to look at it. You want more of it. Yeah. It's joyful. And I, and I actually said that to her, like I, I find her to be joyful. Like she's a big smiler. She, she feels like she's got a lot of joy in her. She's laughing at things.

And when she has to be serious, tough, stern, anything she is. And like, it's, it's powerful. She's so powerful and it's really exciting. So like all the things that draw me to her were just like the things that I was probably in the back of my mind, trying to emulate when you see someone that's like exciting to your fasting. That's why like Beyonce is so fun. Cause like, I want to be Beyonce. I want to dress up. Like I want to be Beyonce.

her, you know, her stage persona, you know. Yeah. Isn't it fun to play confident characters? Huh? Is it fun? Fun to play confident characters. It's like your Long Island ladies with Amy, like those two are so crazy funny. Well, that one is Jodi Mancuso who runs our hair department at SNL. Like that, we're both. Oh, you're doing her. Yeah. We're both doing Jodi. And that's, and that's the fun. That's like the fun game of it is like, yeah,

we're imitating jody for jody and she loves it so then we just keep going also also you're playing kamala and and some of these characters are not mean impressions so you're not it's more fun when you see the people because sometimes impressions have a slight mean streak just for the funny factor and you don't realize when you see the person oh i do exaggerate this or that and that might not

Yeah. I mean, look, if they, if I, if I ended up having to play like Trump or something, like there's no way I'd find any joy. I, I, I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure I would do just fine roasting that mofo. Um,

But yeah, we're going to do a lot of things. Excuse me. We're doing a lot of good stuff. Let me tell you, we're going to be you're going to see a lot of stuff. You're going to be very happy. I can tell you that stuff might be the word he uses the most. Like if you were to tell me that we were ever going to have someone in a position of power using and whose favorite word was stuff, I'd be so bummed.

We're doing a lot of things. Really? Anytime you want to tell me what those things are. Dana's very general.

I try to find a hook in it. It's like a song to me, and I don't really harbor in teaching or making political points, but you could just do stuff and let the audience decide. But Trump's a funny rhythm. Biden is also very interesting now that he's gotten more animated and he's louder.

because he was very whispery and so yeah James that's on SNL right now is doing both of them beautifully he's he's unreal he's incredible oh yeah yeah we did talk to him we had him on the podcast he's unbelievable and it's like anything like the minute you see someone do the impression like oh that's what

what it is yeah that's the most jealous hit when you go oh my god it's an easy but i feel like now we can all tap into it and we can do it because we heard him do it correctly like right that's what it is it was cool too because i remember during the pandemic early days early stages of pandemic amy poehler i think was really into his tick tock and was sending him

to me and our friends saying like this guy i was too i sent to my friends he was walking down the street exactly and i and i go it's so hard to riff he would talk about anything and i go it's very hard without a script because a script you you write in your hooks you make sure you say certain things but when someone has asked you a question and you have to riff

You can't always find your way back to the funny parts, you know. He has the language of Trump in that when we did a live thing with James and then we had the audience just suggest any movie or TV show, you know, and he would just go with it. Oh,

whatever it was as trump in the language of trump he would so yeah he would do trump like saying why it affected china and so whatever you asked him he would get it all the way back to that's why china's the bad guys and it was so it was so funny and then you go god it was a q a and pate is that the hat i bought you this i didn't even think of that i swear to god i go i just thought you were doing it to see if i would notice

Really? I didn't mean to interrupt while you were talking about Kamala, but the light was on and I grabbed my hat and I go, wait a second. Didn't you give... Wait a minute. That was a sweet little grown-up's wrap gift.

That's what it was. I go, you gave it to all, was it grownups? I only bought you one gift once. Don't make people think I'm- Oh my God. You know, I get a gift probably every week from Maya. And that was just one of them. That's so nice. Grownups. Oh my God. It's the least I can do, Dana. It was literally the least she could do. David needs a friend. Conan needs a friend and David needs a friend. Go ahead, David. Maya and I are friends and we run grownups, which is keeping the lights on at TBS. It's-

It's on every day. Grown Ups 1 and 2. Yeah. And I had so much fun. I don't even realize it until afterwards, and then people see it, and they go, was that fun? I go, yeah, it was. Even though some reviews were like, at least they had fun. Yeah.

I mean, I feel like my memories of making that movie, well, the first movie I was pregnant. So that was more like just keeping myself intact. But I feel like we did a lot of eating together. You're a very good eating buddy. Very good eater. Also, you were always fun on the show. So if you're walking on the set and you see Maya, you have to just walk over because she

She has something to say about anything. It's just fun to talk to. And then the next one, you're great. And then I ran into you in Hawaii when I was doing the wrong Missy. Oh, yeah. Oh, good old tiptoes. I told Dana that there's a tiptoes, but I can't remember how it started. Well, my kids call him a tiptoes because they tried to tell him a joke.

And he couldn't figure it out. - Yeah. - And the joke goes like this, Dana. What begins with T and ends with T? - And I said tiptoes. - And he said a tiptoes? And they were like a teapot. - Yeah, by the way, they laughed so hard at my answer 'cause it was so fucking horrible. And then they liked me after that because they liked 'cause I was stupid. - Aw.

Yeah, he's not so bright, that little spin. Yeah, but he's like kind of a fake uncle, you know, and the kids love him. Yeah, he's a funcle. When I walked away, I heard one of them go, Mommy, why is he famous? And you couldn't answer. And I was like, huh. You know, that's a good question. I don't know. Eat your frosted mini-wheat, son. Maya, what's the questions you've been asked the most when you go on podcasts or talk shows? Oh, yeah, what's a good one?

You don't have to answer your fake question. What does David Spade smell like? Yeah. Is probably the number one. Honey. I haven't done a lot of podcasts, P.S. Yeah, you're a babe. I'm very selective. We're very flattered you're on this one. Okay, I'll do one. You guys are...

A, people I know, like, and adore and worship. My phone's ringing. Should I answer it? I think it's kind of hip if you do. Go ahead. Let's see who it is. Yeah, because it sounds like a murder mystery or something. That's a hotel phone. No, I think it's like, can we clean? No, it's probably, it's Kamala Harris. This is Maya. Hi, this is Kamala Harris. Uh-huh.

Maya is on the phone right now. She's in. I don't know who that is. The call is coming from inside the hotel. She says, I don't know who that is. Now she's walking. She's terrified. Thank you. Bye.

It was Kamala Harris, guys. What is she doing? I know it. She was here to hang out. I learned it's Kamala, by the way. So if you do meet her, you have to put the emphasis on the first A or else...

I don't know what happened to you. Pamela, almost like Pamela, but with a K. Almost like Pamela. That fruit we all pretend exists. There's two questions I'd like to get to. One is, because I'm just curious, when did little Maya...

first have the dream of being a comedian, i.e. sketchbook? Because I know you have a huge musical background, but when did that first hit you like, I'm funny and maybe I could be on TV? I think I fantasized about it very, very, very young. Like seven, six, seven, eight years of age? Maybe even, yeah. Do you see it in any of your kids? Do you see the bug in any of your kids? I do, yeah. And I'm sure in the same way that I had it because I,

you know my parents being musicians they were on the road so they were live performers and then there was like a great moment when as an older person i i discovered a home movie from like sometime we were on the road with my parents me and my brother and one of the smothers brothers was teaching my brother how to yo-yo

Oh, Tommy. It was like my mom was playing with the Smothers Brothers. Like that was the combo, which is like, of course that makes sense. That's like music and comedy totally go together. And I was little and impressionable. And that was normal to me. And so I think in that same way that like that bug definitely happened.

um, gets in there and rubs off a bit. Yeah. And then when did you first, uh, attempt it? Was it grade school, high school, like all school, all through school, clown. So you were gone. Full ham bone, always wanted to be, but I, you know, I think it took until fairly recently that I realized like,

like i was always like i'm an actor but i'm actually really i'm a performer i think i'm more of a i i think that my true essence is a live performer i i can act i can perform but like i'm much better live i'm much better on a stage i'm much happier i feel like it just is more natural to me that way

Do you have a problem? Well, with film and those kinds of things that you're fighting against, you know, we got to do it again and we're taking a break and the sun's coming up and if it's live and the lights are on, then it's just go, go, go. So you can get lost more easily. Yeah, but I'm not mad about like this angle, seeing this mole and this side of my nose and like...

You want to pretend that you're not noticing there's a camera right there, but there's a camera right there. And then it's like the sixth time you've done it. So it's like saying, you know, it's like saying donut 20 times by the time it sounds. It's not even 125 times. Dana, I read about these directors that are great, but, and there's a lot of them.

that this sounds so crazy, but you know, I get that you have to do some takes, but you read about these people that do 20, 30, 50 and in comedy, I guess in some instances, I just don't agree with it just on my performing way because I want it to matter every time. And I, maybe I'm just not good enough to where you give it a thousand percent every time I've been on sets where, you know, the first 10, they're not, there's no chance they're going to use them no matter how good you do.

There's just a thing where they're going to go. I have a thing about we're going to go forever. And I worked with a guy once where they go, you want to go again? And he goes, yep. Before anyone could say anything, he'd go, yep. And one time I pulled him aside and I said, hey man, what's going on? And he goes, oh, if they ever asked me, I'm never going to say no. And I go, well, you got it. He goes, I just wanted the chance at it. I go, but that's a decision between you and the director. Like the director,

is ultimately going to pick. So you, you have no say in it. You're just going to go and go and go and go and go. I would say for me personally, like Larry Sanders, the great late Gary Shanley, and then curb your enthusiasm. Like I've talked to Jeff Garland about it and he says, well, sometimes you don't know you're doing a take.

you don't even know you're doing a take. You could tell sometimes Richard Lewis and Larry David are not really acting anymore. They're just riffing and the camera's rolling and they're sort of breaking. So I do think with comedians and performers, the directorial style should sort of try to take advantage of that. If you're Daniel Day-Lewis. That's wonderful because there is an essence there that is not, it's just far more contrived when you're trying to make it seem natural. And that's so smart.

Larry's a smart guy and so is Gary discovering it

One, the camera's rolling as opposed to discovering it before. Like Eastwood doesn't rehearse much. They kind of talk and let's get you over there, Woody Allen. And I think just trying to preserve that with a certain kind of performer where it's just you're discovering it right as you're, oh, now I got it. And the camera's rolling as opposed to I got it. Now let's go over there and shoot it again. Right. Tricky. That's why movies always sabotage me. Except Wayne's World, we had a lot of control, Mike and I.

And the shooting was very simple. And there was a lot of, so that one worked. Yes, I just rewatched it for the three millionth time with my children. You did? Yeah, of course I did. I mean, Dana, you're beautiful. You're just beautiful.

Everything about you, it's like watching Jordan just play basketball. It's a joke how fantastic you are. Oh, God, I think I love you, but we're both married. I would say this about that particular movie. I look at Garth in Wannabe Garth. Right.

I want to be him. He's so loyal. He's so positive. He worries about his friend. So yeah, I'm like, and he's in the moment. He's playful. So yeah, I want to be Garth too. But I feel like you can, if you really had to think about why we love Garth so much, I think it's like,

You can kind of feel that, you know, and there's something like, it's the same way that I felt about Saturday Night Live when I was a kid. My parents would watch it and I would watch them watching it. And they were the age the people were on the show. And I was like, ooh, that looks fun. It looks like they're having fun with their friends. And there was something about it that I was attracted to. Like, I didn't know exactly what it was, but yeah.

It looked fun. And my parents were fun. Like I wasn't scared of my parents. They were like young, cool people. So something about it felt familiar and it felt like, yeah, that's where cool people are. Friends having fun is so seductive. And I've mentioned this recently, but David Crosby,

one of the people from the 60s who saw the Beatles fresh, and he just says, these were guys having so much fun and projecting so much joy and dudes hanging out that you're like, you just, I want to do that. I want to have fun with my friends like that. I think that's probably like, if I had to take away like the one thing

thing that when I always think about like, why did I want to do this? Or like, what was I interested in doing when I grew up? All I remember thinking is I want to do that. So it would be like, I'd go to a concert and I'd like, I'd look at the person and be like, I want to do that. And then I would see a movie and I was like, I want to do that. Like that was really, that's really like the only thing I can,

to like, I just wanted to be, like I want to pretend to be those people was kind of how I felt. Same here. And I was, I wanted to do it when I was nine. I was too shy and had such a, kind of a strange childhood, but a lot of people do. A little rough, David as well. So I never pursued it until later, but it was always a secret kind of desire to do that. Yeah.

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What about having fun? Forget it. I know we got to wrap it up, but Bridesmaids, you couldn't look at more people having fun in a movie. Whatever. It just seems like... That's lightning in a bottle. You're all friends. Lightning in a bottle. That was fun. Unbelievable. That was the joy of...

making that and like I think at a certain point I remember us talking about saying like I don't know if anyone's gonna see this movie or like it but I'm so glad we made it like we had so much and that is also like the essence of

People that know each other well, you get to, so you get to experience that chemistry and then you're all trying to make each other laugh. Yeah, that just was, that's one of those movies that just made its mark.

Well, I got to ask you two things about Luke, Maya, before I let you go. Wow, this is so, I don't know professional Spade. I'm really enjoying this. I know. Spade is kind of today, he is sort of the boss man. He is kind of taking it. I feel like he got a haircut for this podcast. I like my hair right now. It's the best his hair has looked. Last night we had dinner and his hair looked amazing and he was a little cocky about it. It still looks good.

Next day hair is looking good. It's very slept on, like... Yeah, bed head. Look at, I got a little PTA beard coming in my eye. You see that with the gray? Yeah, mine is too. Look at that. Oh, yeah. This is good. When you do Lute... Okay, real quick, Dana. I'm going to ask you this because I wrote down. Her cast is... We talked a little bit about it in the beginning. I didn't give too much away. I just was watching clips, which, of course, she's... You did? You did a little homework? Always funny to watch her in anything, but...

I like to see you really rich in it. But you have Ron Funches and Nat Faxon are the only ones I know in it, but that I know personally. Both great. Both, if they're in there, they're going to score. So if you get to play off them,

It's already. Nat and I were in the groundlings together. Oh, okay. Plus years ago. So that's the, that's the joy right there. I just fell in love with Ron punches and wanted to know him. I love him. He has his own, own lane. He's got something. Yeah. He's got a very interesting thing. He does. And funny. Yeah. Always quietly scoring. Every time. Quietly scoring. And it's just such a joy to watch. It's like,

Hanging out with like the personality of like a human mochi. I like that description. Well, Lute should be on now. Was it the Parks and Recs people that put it together? Alan Yang and Matt Hubbard. Okay. So that's sort of a vibe that rolls through it.

Sort of a vibe, Spade. It's like, you know, if you're like hanging out with cool people and like drinking brews and massaging each other's shoulders. It's kind of like that. That's it. That's where I like to be. That's what I'm doing. That's the show, though. That's the whole show. We just hang out and massage each other's shoulders. It's pretty cool. Well, Lute is a cool name because I say Lute because I talk about money all the time. So I say Lute a lot.

and i wrap it is very fun pretending to be rich i do i i do think that that's the lure of what um was exciting about the show yeah that that that byline makes me intrigued yeah just anyone becoming a billionaire like what yeah what would it be like you're like what what can't i do like the possibilities are endless but then instantly fall into like social responsibility like uh-oh should i should i save the world

But one thing about our billionaires is they seem to really, really enjoy it. Like they always say they're going to give it all away, but then their stock goes up. So, you know, I gave away 30. I don't know if they can. Yeah. I don't know if they can give it all away. And then they want to live forever. It multiplies so fast. They just, they give away its back. Well, I don't think they can. Yeah. You know, Warren Buffett says he's going to give away 99%, but then there's like a billion left. Yeah.

I know, just laying around. I'm not going to spoil them. I'm only leaving one person. It's like 300 million. I mean, I guess you can have like a nice place to live and all that while you're saving the world, right? You can get some islands and...

Yeah, Dennis Miller says that car feed all comes down to planes and paintings, okay? That's the final frontier. You want that Basquiat for about 200 mil? You got two G5s rotating, going around the world. But yeah, that is the chariot of all, to have a...

G6 that can travel anywhere. It just waits for you. That's the most decadent cool thing you could have, I think, as a toy. Maya's working on it, right? Spade? Spade's work. I feel like I should do Garth for a second. Okay, go ahead. Maya sure has been a good guest. She really knows how to say cool things. Oh, God. Oh, my God. I have a total bummer. Ha, ha, ha, ha.

Oh my God. I'm full on excited right now. I love it. I feel funny like when I used to climb the rope in gym class. Damn it. Swing indeed. Swing, swing, swing.

Well, Maya, we know you have a hard out. Thank you, Maya. I have a hard out, not because of you guys, because I got to go do Fallon. It's Jimmy's fault. Well, you know what? I'm doing... Jim Downey wrote that. I'm on my way to Santa Monica after this. His documentary for Peacock. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I did that when I was here last time. I'm doing that today. That's very exciting and probably a rich piece of history that...

will be worth being a part of. It's nice when someone gets their due that Jim was this one of the overarching people of history of the show. Can you do a little Jim Downey for me? Oh, that's tough. You know, something really funny about, you know. He always stares at the ceiling. It just feels a little precious. All I get is a Maya. It's the downer.

Is that what he says? Yeah. I once called him, and I'm going to say without exaggeration, he talked for three hours straight, only once in a while going, am I talking too much? And it was absolutely fascinating. We went over global history, U.S. history. He just went everywhere. I've never met an intellect. He goes to the Yale Library and just gets big books and reads them. He's like this brainiac extraordinaire. What a rich...

life we've lived that we've crossed paths with some of these people and minds and um I'm also yes I'm also including both of you it's pretty wild it's like it's pretty wild to have had a job that the job that we all have in common um provided us with this like

weekly changing thing. So we really did like, sometimes I'll kind of think like, wow, I did meet a lot of people in my 20s and 30s. Like I've met people. I worked with them for a week, you know? And you forget, I see people and they go, I hosted SNL when you were there. I go, oh, that's right. Like,

Even Michael Jordan, I remember I did a whole week with him, ended a sketch of them and I'm like, they go, have you ever met Michael Jordan? I go, I don't think so. And they go, no, you did. You did the whole show with him. Because it's sort of just work and you just try to stay out of their face and you just try to keep everything respectful. I would always get kind of nervous when the host was, the host in the early days was down in the offices and they'd go,

Would you like to go? Yeah. Charlton Heston would like to say hello to you. And then you're walking down there and you open the door and then there's Charlton Heston or, you know, or Michael Jordan. It's just like, hello. Always nervous. Never not nervous about that. To me, that was never like, I got it. Let me handle this. Let me handle it. It's Daniel Day-Lewis. Hi, Daniel Day-Lewis. Yeah, what's up? Jesus.

But you're right. That's why this podcast... What's up, Jesus Christ? Jesus... When did he host? In 97. Oh, and our musical guest is Madonna. I feel like it'll be a sort of a good mix. With Jesus? It's that thing. It would be really nice if it was like a really good show. Oh, yeah.

Dana, I'm not kidding. If it's just like once a year that you want to leave me voice messages. Yeah, I'll get your information. I will occasionally leave you a message from Lauren. I mean, I will say for when we wrote for the 40th, for the, you know, when Martin Short and I did the musical thing. Oh, yeah. Right, right, right.

I wrote Chopin, we wrote Chopin Broccoli for you because that made us so happy. And that was such a big part of our lives of like me and Emily Spivey were like, oh my God, do you think Dana would say yes? And then we got to like talk to you about it. And you're more like us. I never assume people remember me. I never impose. I'm always like, okay, like a book.

on the back foot. Cause I don't, I don't, I don't like that over familiarity. And you were like, is this okay? Do you want this in here? Like, Jesus, like that honestly was the component to like, that was like the key ingredient to like bringing it all together. And I feel like that moment in my life where I,

The like younger me was like in love with you and watching you be a genius on the show and quoting you in my house and in my life and then getting to pay respect for that. And then notice I don't say these things to spade ever. Well, Maya, could I just say because of that and thank you for putting it in there.

During the commercial break, Paul McCartney was sitting in the stand, so I did this little teeny thing from Revolver. Your day breaks, your mind aches. And I'm not a big piano player, but I was able to play that. Paul stood up, did his six shooters. I know what you're doing. I know what you're doing. So that was like our connection. And then we did Wayne's World at the end of the show, and we're doing the good nights thing.

And suddenly there's someone massaging me. No. And I look up and it's Paul. So all of us, to sum up, when you're on Saturday Night Live experientially, who you meet, the pressure, 8H, Lorne Michaels, it's a time in your life when you're having success or not. Everything about it and the...

The relationships you make That if you ran into somebody You couldn't see him for 10 years Like with David and I I didn't see him a lot For many years Suddenly we're best friends In like three seconds So that's why this podcast is fun Because it's such a seminal part Of all of our lives It's a linchpin I'll come back If you want to do like A four hour session next time

We would love to have any of that. That was met with like a resounding silence. No, you have so many things to talk about. No one's ever said that to us. No, everyone goes, everyone at the end of the year is going, okay, I did this. I did you a favor. I will never do this again. That's usually the sign off. You're the first to say. No, Jimmy was great yesterday. Jimmy. Let me do that.

he's so fucking funny so we had a great time and we love you Maya I always joke with you but I love you to death because you're so great I'm in an age where I just tell everyone I love them so we're gonna bring Dana into the fold and then you can slowly phase me out and bring in Dana I've been waiting for so long to do that thank you great okay bye love you guys thank you love you bye

Hey, what's up, flies? What's up, fleas? What's up, people that listen? We want to hear from you and your dumb questions. Questions, ask us anything. Anything you want. You can email us at flyonthewallatcadence13.com. Okay, we're going to read a fan question from Aaron Andriaco. Andriaco. I nailed it. Andriaco. Aye, aye. Aaron Andriaco. Yeah.

Hey guys, 43-year-old lifelong SNL fan, love the podcast. I'm always amazed how much original material is generated only in a week. Oh, at the show. Curious how many weeks it took to write the 40th special. Ooh, that's a good question. That was very tricky. I think that was Steve Higgins was in charge of that. I would say like everything else on SNL, it's devoted to ADD theater. Why do it now when you can do it later? And then this compression mentally starts this process.

pressure and finally you have to work on it I think we probably did the 40th in the same amount we did even though it was like a four hour special as a regular week there was no really rehearsal on the sound stage I mean Mike and I were just back in a room going Joe you know I could do that too when you're just this little room yeah you're left to your own devices yeah and we're just practicing ourselves so that was fly by the seat of your pants 40th that turned out a

Amazing. But it was one of those shows that was iffy, right? What did you do on the 40th? I wasn't in anything and I go, yeah, we'll just come. And then I said, oh, maybe one sketch when they're leaving, I'll just stand there and say bye-bye. And they goes, yeah.

So in the end of the Californians, he goes, just say bye-bye, bye-bye. And because I was like, I'll take anything. Everyone was being cool because I go, that'd be funny. I took the 405 to the Stun Canyon Drive. Yeah, it's Californians, it's funny. It's Californians, sorry. And you know, everyone was game for that. Like I just did like the end of a sketch and then Steve Martin puts the whole get up on for King Tut to sing two lines together.

To be a part of some other bigger scale. It was just, it was just fun. It was more fun the 40th because everywhere you turned, it was someone you knew or someone famous. And they were all just, it was more of a party. Yeah.

People were drinking. It was less of a show. It was a wax museum when you looked at the stands. Everybody was famous. So you're playing to all famous people, which normally might not be the best audience. But Mike and I went on at the very end, like almost at midnight. We waited like for eight hours. And I said, either we should be really flattered that they, oh, we'll put them on at the very end or really angry. But I said, let's go fuck them up, man. So the rest is history. Yeah.

That's it. Say, what is his name? Oh, Aaron. Thank you, Aaron, for writing that in. That was our shortest answer ever. Thank you, Aaron. And the Draco. This has been a podcast presentation of Cadence 13. Please listen, then rate, review, and follow all episodes. Available now for free wherever you get your podcasts. No joke, folks.

Fly on the Wall has been a presentation of Cadence 13, executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Chris Corcoran of Cadence 13, and Charlie Finan of Brillstein Entertainment. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman with production and engineering support from Serena Regan and Chris Basil of Cadence 13.