How do you create nature programs in a country where virtually everything is cultivated through commercial agriculture and highly impacted landscapes? My conversation with Jael Nouhet of the Netherlands explores his efforts to plant seeds, trees and plants to create the future forests for children and educators in a few decades!

It takes a tremendous effort to create the kind of consensus building, commitment and investment towards a long term vision of a future with nature-connected children and adults, and Jael shares his journey, and what he's learned along the way. We discuss the many cultural differences, customs and social structure that impacts efforts to get children outside in Greece, Turkey, the Czech Republic, and Russia, and why it's beneficial to understand how these 'barriers' are being circumvented in areas around the globe.