Dr. Joseph Farrell - The Debt of Babylon: Cycles, Money, & Battle for Liberty (Pt. 2 of 2) - PRE-RELEASE
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Welcome back to the second part of our episode. Today we are discussing, well we were in the middle of discussing the ancient energy systems and the

phenomenon of the fact that everything is cycles within cycles. Yes. That Dewey was mapping under Hoover to understand the economic trends. Right. But, you know, we were not the first. Dewey was certainly not the first. What he did was a rediscovery. Now, it goes back to Babylon, probably further. Yeah. But the next chapter takes on that. It's called The Temples, The Stars, and The Banksters. Yeah. Yeah.

So this is the second part of the book. Well, yeah. Right? I can make the Tesla connection here, and the banker is very easy for everybody to understand. There was a German physicist by the name of Dr. Konstantin Mayl who published a book on scalar waves. It's kind of a technical book. But that's the book that forms the background for that particular chapter in Babylon's Banksters.

because what Dr. Myle also noticed was that if you look at the schematics of ancient temples, and the one in particular that he really focuses on is the Pantheon in Rome. And he points out that if you look at these ancient temples,

They look for all the world like an architecture that you would create for a very simple radio resonant cavity. Okay? For one thing, they're built out of piezoelectric rock.

like granite or limestone. We're talking certain structures in Egypt now, folks. And in addition to this, in the Pantheon's case, he noticed that the way that the building is built is almost like a magnetometer in a British World War II radar set. So what he hypothesized is, yes, these temples and so on

were actually built as very simple radio cavities that were capable of sending and receiving very faint microwave frequency pulses. Pulses. Now, again, this is exactly the same system as Tesla. Because, again, the Earth itself is the broadcast medium. The Earth itself is the antennae.

And the temples squatting on top of it are simply the resonant cavity for it. And he points out that if these temples are indeed some sort of global communication system, then how are they doing this? Well, they're going to need a very sensitive membrane that can detect pulses. In other words, they're using a form of Morse code, folks. Mm-hmm.

And they're going to have to have a very sensitive membrane that responds to those kinds of pulses. Enter entrails. Okay? So what he's suggesting is that, yeah, all these priests and all these temples reading entrails and so forth are really part of a communication system.

And he points out that when you run into these very strange things in classical Roman literature, that general such and such in so-and-so country sent to the emperor for advice and received a response the next day. The only way to explain this is either they're making this up and it's some sort of fantastical metaphor or

for the speed of the Roman semaphore system, or they actually are sending to the emperor, and they're receiving responses the next day. And the only way that can happen is through some form of radio telegraphy. I mean, it's very rudimentary, so it's not beyond them. Right, of course. It's very, very rudimentary. And we have found evidence of ancient machines, batteries and whatnot. Sure, of course.

Yeah. So of course, no, no, the theory is about how the pyramids could be machines, but we, okay. So if these constructions are practical tools, we already know,

the theoretical tools because you've said it already. We know that the ancients were very concerned about studying movements, cycles. Right. And they had their own science for this, astrology, astronomy. Right. Which they depicted very detailedly. I mean, even with the far planets and stuff. Right. So they had a huge theory and they had obviously something to manifest this through. But how is...

money involved here in the ancient times. I'll just read the chapters to help you remember. A, temples and trusts. B, temples and templates. Astronomy, astrology, and the alchemy of money. And C is... Well, the temples are involved, first of all, because you've got them as part of a network.

So in other words, what you have to account for in ancient times is the fact that commerce is not restricted to a locality or a city state. It actually is being conducted very much like modern commerce internationally. Yeah. To conduct such commerce, you have to have communications, number one. Number two, you have to have standards of weights and measures, right?

that can be produced universally on the surface of the planet. Yeah, so when the Templars installed their system, they were just imitating manually what the ancients probably had more machinery to do. Right. Well, the Templars are going further.

they're introducing the note of hand. In other words, a check. That's exactly what they're doing. And in order to do that, you're doing something else. You have a system of fractional reserve banking. And in order to have a system like that, you have to have a system of communication between those local centers of banking. And on top of that, if you really are paying close attention to the finance here,

You have to have a system of double entry accounting.

So in other words, long before Venice comes along and is credited with inventing double-entry accounting, the Templars are already doing it. And where did they pick it up? Well, I think they pick it up probably from Islam, because Islam has been doing this for centuries before the Templars arise. And in turn, I think they're getting it because, of course, they've gone in and conquered the

those areas and probably examined and deciphered some of those records and made and drawn the appropriate conclusion. Wait a minute, interests are forbidden in Islamic economy. I know, I know they are. Of course they are. How do you explain this? Well, they don't have a debt-based economy, do they? In other words, when they conquer those areas, they're conquering areas of the world that were dealing with debt-free money. Now, the interesting thing here, going back to the temple, is

is that the standards of weights and measures are often kept and associated with temples. So, in other words, the temples in ancient times are also the places where you normally conduct banking business. Yeah, Jesus was upset with that. Exactly, exactly. We have an example of it in the New Testament. But I thought they were dealing in in-depth money. No, no. If you let me finish my thought, we'll get there. Go on.

The ancients were dealing with both kinds of money, and it's very important to understand this. You could circulate a bill of exchange as money. In other words, I'll give you X amount of units of barley for Y amount of units of oats or whatever. But you would have these circulating notes of exchange. That's debt-free money.

Right there. That's debt-free money. Or you could have a promissory note on a loan. I will repay you 60 goats by such and such a time if you loan me 50 goats today.

And those notes could be circulated and exchanged as money. So you had both systems in place. What eventually happened, particularly in Babylonia, was they discovered that the circulating debt notes, the loan notes that were exchanged as currency, soon began to drive out the good notes.

and more and more debt was accumulated, and as more and more debt is accumulated, people leave and abandon their farms or their property that is the collateral behind the note. Wow, they did the same in America during the... Bingo, yes. Bubble, yeah. Bingo! And as a result of this...

More and more people were foreclosed out of their income, and as people were driven out of their income, the economy begins to crash, and nobody's happy. Okay? So in ancient Babylonia, what you had was every 50 years...

you had what was called the breaking of the tablets. Ah, the Jubilee? The Jubilee, exactly. Where the king would break or erase all circulating debt. So in other words...

pay off all of those debts now and quit using that money as circulation, but the system would start all over again. That was the problem. So you had these debt jubilees every now and then when the debt simply was driving the economy into a point of no return. The other part of the solution, which was tried on occasion with some success, was to get rid of the idea of debt as a circulating medium of exchange.

Now, what that means is that you have to basically have a law which allows you to circulate a medium of exchange that is recognized as legal tender in the payment of any debt, especially taxes. Hmm.

The problem with that kind of money is that it works so long as you don't overuse it. If you overuse it, what happens? You inflate the currency and make it worthless, and the economy grinds to a halt again. Okay? This is the problem.

In America, if you go back in American history and look at the original colonies before the American Revolution, this was the kind of money they used. Specie money, if you look at colonial script, let's say you're dealing with a...

a note of money from the state or Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Well, the note will tell you this is redeemable at, this is representative and redeemable for X amount of shillings at the Massachusetts Commonwealth treasury. So in other words, the note specifies an amount of money that you can turn the note in for and get a certain amount of coins from

or specie money that is the real money that the node is based on. Now, the reason the colonies are doing this, Al, is that it allows them to create a circulating medium denominated in monetary values they're familiar with. And the specie, what happens to it? The specie is the hard money that's used to buy the goods and services and manufacturers from England.

This is a very, very important point. When you are dealing with debt-free money that is a circulating note like this, chances are you're dealing with an economy that is export-driven, and therefore the circulating medium becomes a paper note based upon a unit of value of coins. Right.

And the coins are the hard money, and they're going overseas because that's the form of currency a foreign merchant is going to accept. So what happens during the Revolutionary War in this country is that the specie, of course, dries up.

As do the exports and imports, because, of course, England is blockading the colonies. And the only thing that they have for money to sustain the war effort are these circulating paper notes. So they print a gob of them.

and mandate them in the several colonies as legal currency. Is this the first fiat attempt? It is a debt-free fiat currency, yes. And it's literally financing the Revolutionary War. The problem at the end, and by the way, let's remember, every single colony is a sovereign entity. Hmm.

So in other words, they're all doing this on an individual basis. Okay? This is why there is a constitutional crisis after the war, because there are so many of these notes out there that there's no way that any of these state governments can redeem all the species that those notes represent.

Did they pull a new jubilee? No, they didn't. How did they? They didn't even think of that. What they did was they pulled the Constitutional Convention at Philadelphia and gave us our current Constitution. In other words, the Constitution was an attempt to service the debt that the colonies had rung up during the Revolutionary War.

And most of the debates during the Constitutional Convention, if you dig and scratch, have something to do with money. And most of the anti-federalist opposition to the Constitution, if you dig and scratch long enough, has to deal with money. Interesting. And incidentally, if you look at the American Constitution, it says that the only form of constitutional money is what? Congress money.

shall have the power to make, listen carefully to the words, to make and coin money and to regulate the value thereof.

Now, what that means is that they're thinking of the value of circulating paper notes in terms of their value as specie, as coin, as bullion, denominated in, at that point, the Spanish milled dollar, which was a widely circulating coin in North America. So that's what they're thinking. Hmm.

This is a fascinating part of history. What they don't have, Al, is the Babylonian conception of a jubilee. No. In fact, that disappeared from history with the fall of Babylonia and really doesn't get reintroduced to history until the 20th century when archaeologists discover that that's what the Babylonians were doing.

I mean, in my country, they don't have collective jubilee, but they kind of have a version of that principle individually.

It's kind of you declare bankruptcy. Yeah, it's a bankruptcy. And your personal economy is restarted. Right. It's restarted. Debt-free. Yeah. They have bankruptcy laws here in this country as well. So there is the idea of an individual jubilee, but this is a far different thing than you have in Babylonia, where you have an absolute…

Total eradication. Systemic one. Systemic, systemic. And of course, a modern day banker would be absolutely appalled at the notion. They are appalled even by the individual ones. Yes, exactly. Exactly. But that just tells you where the weight is landing, right? Well, yeah. The problem with every human system of money is that they require very careful balancing and exercise.

And you can err on either side with too many notes of circulating debt. In other words, a highly financialized economy, such as we see in this country today, with very little production to back it up.

Oh, yeah. Not only that, but it's not even fiat anymore. It's the petrodollar, which is soon dunked by the bricks. Oh, yeah. It's quickly dying the death of the dinosaurs that they think are behind fossil fuels. But the other side of the coin is that debt-free fiat money can be overused as well.

Now, debt-free fiat money is an interesting way of financing things. You know, Nazi Germany financed most of its war effort during World War II using that kind of money. But the problem was at the end… And China, I think, has a similar…

So, yeah, we've been trying these models for a long time, and nobody seems to have the wisdom to recognize that you cannot overuse any system. You cannot, literally, you cannot overprint or overfinancialize because it always, always drives these systems into collapse. And every time that if you're going back to the foundation of cycles and Edward Dewey,

Every time that governments do this, what they're really attempting to do is reverse and change the trend line of the cycle that they're in. This is always the problem.

Right. Meanwhile, we are stuck in this system, this debt system with no jubilee, which is now, what's this fancy word for the new, where you can spend as much money as you want? What's it called? It's a way to- It's called insanity, Al. That's a medical term. Yeah, well, that pretty well sums up the pathology of what we're dealing with.

I'll find a term as we speak. It's going to come to me. But let's move on into your chapters here. So, the next one is called Money, Monotheism, Monarchies and Militaries. A. The state of evidence and the need for speculation. B. The medium of exchange and bullion and order on state warehouses. C. How the conspiracy worked. And D.

the parallel to the aftermaths of the cosmic war and World War II. Okay, yeah, I got you. Let's look at the fundamental problem of money. And we're seeing echoes of this right now in this country, where you have had several American states, beginning with Texas, but now it's expanded to Utah, Tennessee. Other states are considering this.

where they have established a state bullion depository where people can deposit their bullion. Now, they're trying to do this in order to restore a currency that has some collateral or backing. Okay? So I can remember Al as a boy spending what were called silver certificates. It was a form of the American dollar.

where the treasury seal on the dollar was blue, not green. And the actual paper note said silver certificate. And at the bottom of the note, it said this is payable to the bearer on demand, $1 in silver. Okay? So you could literally take these silver certificates to your local bank

Give them that piece of paper and get a silver dollar in return. In other words, it was... So they are like paper, what do you call it in English? Slip-off paper? Yeah, they were an actual piece of... Just like our current Federal Reserve dollar is a paper note, right? Banknote, yeah. It's a banknote. But the silver certificate is not a note bearing debt. Right.

In fact, it's not a note at all. That's what it was called. It was called a silver certificate. It was a certificate of deposit is what it was. So it's not an IOU. It's not an IOU. It's a surplus. It's a surplus. It has collateralized backing, number one. And the other thing that it has is it has convertibility. In other words, it is a note of deposit. Okay.

So in looking at the current situation, Al, in this country with the state depositories starting up their own bullion depositories, what none of them are talking about is, number one, are they going to issue certificates of deposit for bullion deposited in their state?

bullion depositories? Well, of course they are. So the second question is, are those certificates of deposit in turn going to be recognized as being able to function as money? Are those certificates of deposit going to be recognized as legal tender for the payment of debts? All right. So the point I'm drawing here is that debt-free money at some point is

has to represent something that it is convertible into. It has to have something backing it. This is where you run into problems, because backing does not necessarily have to be bullion.

No, and a symbol reflecting the actual resources in society. Right. I was just getting to this. The Kennedy notes that everybody refers to, when John Kennedy in June of 1963 authorized the printing by the American Treasury of $4 billion of United States notes,

Well, I can remember Al spending some of those Kennedy bills as a kid. And again, if you had that piece of paper at the top, it would say United States note. All right. Now, notice right away, you're not talking about a Federal Reserve note and you're not talking about a silver certificate.

This is a United States note, and the seal, the treasury seal on the front of the note was a red seal, not a green Federal Reserve seal and not a blue silver certificate seal. It was red. What that meant was that this was a treasury note that was printed on, quite literally, the full faith and credit of the United States government,

meaning that the backing behind the note was the actual productivity of the country itself. It was not bullion in any form. It was simply the productivity of the country. And this is what the ancients did with their credit notes. It was a, those kinds of notes were,

In the final analysis were notes drawn on the surplus production, as one author that I cite in the book calls it, the surplus production of the state warehouse. In other words, it's a note circulating that represents a small fraction of the country's gross domestic product. That's what it represents. Yeah. So that's yet another form of money.

Right, right. The advantage the ancients had, of course, was that in addition to this had surplus economy, they also had the jubilees and the insight into cycles. Right. It was all connected for them. Right. We lost that. Yeah. And by the way, the term I forgot was MMT, modern monetary theory. Right. It's the excuse they used to just make fiat on steroids. Right.

Right. But OK, so the next chapter is called. Actually, we should say something about in this chapter. I suppose we should also say something about the aftermath of the cosmic war and World War Two. I guess you have said something about it already. You did it in the beginning. I guess that's what you're getting at with this title.

Well, now I'm lost. I'm not drawing it. Well, it's called also the globalist agenda on money, monarchies, monotheism, and militaries. It's the parallel to the aftermath of the cosmic war. So you're seeing a theme reintroduce itself. Well, yes. The theme basically is that empires throughout history...

have always resorted to monetized debt as their system of money because they come to require and to literally depend for their existence on the creation and sustaining of massive military machines. And those machines, those military machines at some point

exceed the capacity, the productive capacity of the empire. So you stimulate that capacity by issuing debt, and it becomes a vicious circle of

Because the more debt you issue, the more the empire has to go and conquer in order to pay off the debt that it's trying to sustain. Right. It needs to integrate new resources into its closed system. Right. And in ancient times, this manifests itself as empires trying to conquer territory that will produce the gold and silver that will pay the troops that, you know, and it becomes a vicious circle. This is exactly that.

the position that the United States is in now. But today we have even more meta ways to do the exact same thing. Oh, yes, of course. They had to grab land back then. We can now, we can do it two ways. We can expand in cosmos, like the moon, we can mine the moon and stuff like that. Right, sure. And the other thing we can do is as a meta layer, for example, the digital age, right? Right.

tech companies they are creating something out of thin air that's not getting new land but it's getting new domains of production let me let me illustrate your point here about space by pointing out something I've pointed out many many times in interviews we have been watching in in the last 10 to 15 years we've been watching the meme of space and asteroid mining

Being pushed, you know, there's all those resources up there on those asteroids. All we have to do is go out and grab them. Okay. Now the question is, why do we need to go out and grab all those resources on those asteroids? Well, I'll tell you why.

During the financial meltdown, and I write about this in Babylon's Banksters and again in Financial Vipers Venice, what set off the financial crisis? It was the over-financialization of the economy, the creation of massive amounts of paper,

and financial instruments, and those financial instruments were bundled into tranches of financial instruments, which in turn were re-bundled into more and more tranches, and all this stuff gets traded as derivatives.

Folks, to really get this point he's stressing now, you should watch the movie. I think it's called The Big Short. Have you seen that? I haven't seen it, but yeah. Great movie. It really illustrates how that works. Yeah, the principle is there. And by financializing all of these derivatives, they drove up, Al, the amount of derivatives in the world's financial system. Right now,

The latest estimates that I saw were between $14 and $17 quadrillion. Wow. How many trillions is one quadrillion? One quadrillion is $1,000 trillion. Wow. We screwed. $14 quadrillion. Folks, that is several times the entire gross domestic product of the planet. Wow.

So, in other words, they have so put the entire planet in such a financial bind, the only way to write off all of that bad paper is to go out and find an asset that can cancel it out. And lo and behold, when you dig around the articles talking about all these asteroids, guess what? They just happen to come in.

at a value of between, oh, about $14 to $17 quadrillion. Now, before we get done with this lesson, let's remember something. If you're going to collateralize all that debt, you don't necessarily have to go out there and actually mine the asteroid. You can pretend to do so and say that you've done so.

In other words, you might decide to reconcile the fraudulent system with more fraud. Now, I don't think that if they try that solution, that it ultimately will work. Because sooner or later, someone is going to take their little note to the bank and ask it to be redeemed. Right.

So they have to, at some point, go out and grab those asteroids and mine them. Or they can just let everything come crashing down as long as they have milked it as much as possible. Or that could be too. But the other problem with going out and mining those asteroids is Spain. Okay. Spain? Spain. Okay. Let's remember what happened to Spain. Money at that time was what? Well, it was bullion.

So what does Spain do? Spain goes to the New World, literally suctions out every last bit of gold and puts it all on their galleons and brings all that gold back to Madrid. And Philip II builds himself a nice palace and a beautiful city. And what does the gold do? It drives up prices. It inflates the currency.

It drives prices in Spain off the charts. So what happens to manufacturing?

It leaves Spain and goes to the Netherlands. Okay? So what does Spain end up with? Spain ends up with a lot of gold and inflated currency, a workforce that's out of work, and a manufacturing base that's fled overseas to cheaper markets. Reminds me of current USA. Exactly. That's my point. So in other words, if they go out and mine those asteroids, Al...

That happens all over again. But the problem is there's no cheaper market for anything to flee to. So, yeah, it's a financial mess. But what about creating new financial Klondikes like when computers, internet, the cyber world, the virtual world? Remember, much of the economy today, the biggest players are

It's not primary resources they're handling. It's this second layer of digital reality. It's a financialized economy. And my suspicion now is that all of this crypto, virtual, digital stuff is yet another layer of make-believe piled on top of every other layer of make-believe.

Especially NFTs and crypto. Well, here's the problem. Let's just take the digital currency world for a moment. Right now, we have all of these claims that this is going to be a safe and secure method of financial clearing and exchange, and it'll take central banks out of the picture, and everybody will have their own little private Bitcoin wallet and what have you, blah, blah, blah.

And right now, Al, we're dealing in the United States with banks that have been hacked to death. Now, they used to say, they're not saying it anymore, but they used to say, I remember when this digital cryptocurrency fad got started, they used to say, well, you can't hack this stuff. So you're entirely secure, blah, blah, blah. Well, of course, now,

The stories have come out that these digital currencies have been hacked and people have lost money. But my problem isn't even that. My problem is what happens when your financial clearing system and what you're trading, little blips on a computer screen, quite literally, gets hit with electromagnetic pulse. So how do you trade then? So we're back to square one. You've got to have...

In any financial system, at the very core and as an unavoidable part of any financial system, you have to have a physical medium of exchange that protects the person's anonymity.

and secures the exchange process itself. In other words, you either have to have a coin in your hand or a paper bill in your wallet. I mean, it could be a fish like they've used in some... Of course! A medium of exchange could be, you know, little Indian wampum beads. That's what they used, you know, prior to the Dutchman showing up. So it could be anything, but it has to be a physical token.

that is traded for something else. It has to be physical. And even though a blip on a computer screen is a little quantum particle of information, the problem with that little blip is it's all too easy to get rid of. Or doctor. That's the other part. Yeah.

No, I mean, the worst scenario is the CBCD. I mean, that's slavery. That's modern slavery. Of course it is. Yes, absolutely. It's double. A fiat in itself is a prison. That's like the ultimate down to the individual prison. Next chapter is called Alchemy Upsets the Applecart.

Econo-physics, economics, astrology and astrophysics, Ellen Hodgson Brown. And finally, the implications of engineerability, the ancient alchemical connection. Okay, there's a lot of talk about alchemy in these titles. I guess you have to go into that now.

Well, alchemy is the idea. The basic idea is that you transmute base metals into gold. You can take tin or lead and turn it into gold. That's what most people think of when they think of alchemy. If you look at alchemy and what it actually says, transmutation is something that simply falls out of a much more important principle of

And that is the idea that transmutation itself is the fundamental driver of the cosmos. Yes.

And I have spent enormous... Yeah, we call it evolution, don't we? Well, yeah, we call it by many names. I don't like evolution because that's a theory that has its own special little problems as far as I'm concerned. Wallace rather than Darwin, but go on. Well, yeah, if you can imagine for a moment

And I'm getting into my metaphor of the medium, because I don't think people really grab on the relationship between it and what I've said about alchemy. But the ancient alchemical view is coming out of its cosmology, it's coming out of its metaphysics, all right? If you can imagine the entirety of the world

as being an infinitely extended in every direction pie, like an apple pie. Okay? If you can imagine that, then there's two financial systems, there's two systems of energy that fall out of it. And it's back to this idea of a closed versus an open system.

The closed system is going to view that pie and the slices of the pie as being fractions of the pie. So the pie represents the number one, and your little slice of it represents a fraction or a decimal. And the more players of the game that you have, the smaller the slices of the pie get.

This is actually the Bitcoin system you're describing. Yeah, exactly. This is the Bitcoin system. This is why these digital currencies are not the panacea that everybody tells you that they are. Bingo. Now, if you can imagine that pie as not a closed system,

but rather where each slice of the pie is its own entity. In other words, you have an infinite number of slices, each with their own whole value. Then you're dealing with an open system. Ah, okay. Then I have to take back my statement. The first you described is every crypto coin out there. The second you described is what is called Bitcoin. That's the difference between Bitcoin and crypto. Yeah. So this is very interesting. Go on.

Well, my point here is in the second model, what you have is a transmutation of information. Yes. And that transmutation of information has added information to the system. And once the information is added, here comes your Bitcoin analogy, the information is never lost. It's holographic, German. It's a holographic system of information. Wow. And therefore...

What alchemy is telling you is that the creative process of the world perpetually drives more and more information into the system. The more subdivision of that initial pie that you make, the more information you're adding to the system.

So the apple cart, it's upsetting. That's the limited system, the closed scarcity. Right, right. The model, in other words, is producing information and by its very nature must produce information. So in other words, it cannot, in a certain sense, ever lose information and therefore the system cannot be destroyed. Right.

Now, this is the cosmology, effectively, that they're working with. And by the time we get to Thrice Great Hermetica, what is very interesting to see is the connection between that viewpoint and the great Baroque composers. Because in their music theory texts, they are borrowing whole cloth

not only terms from Christian theology, but they're borrowing terms for their music theory from alchemy to express what it is they're attempting to do in the creation of their music. So in other words, their music has an intention. I mean, this is particularly the case in J.S. Bach.

Their music has a particularly, not just Christian component, but there is an even wider cosmological component that's embedded within it. And this is, you know, this is the cosmology that gets abandoned.

by the 19th century with the whole romantic movement in music and the arts. But you're dealing with something very, very different. This is why that Baroque era music is constantly in motion.

Yeah, because it's a universal principle. It can be expressed in economy, in physics, in music, and what have you. In physics, in music, in literature, yeah, what have you. I call it the analogical principle, because if you look at this system in terms of the very simple topological calculus that I've used in some of my books to express it,

You're looking at a system that is driven by analogical thinking, by constant recontextualizations of information, by constant permutation of patterns over and over and over and over to create more... Connected patterns. Yes, precisely, connected patterns. So when you have a financial system like this, you, by the nature of the case, are always on a...

an overall upward trend line. And if you look at... Abundance is the word. Yes, if you look at trend lines of economic statistics, this is overall what you will find. You will find those dramatic, drastic downturns, always.

But just look at the American stock market or any stock market. Over a prolonged period of time, it is always going up. You're always reaping some sort of benefit. And that should tell us that ultimately, ultimately, we are not in a universe that they close system in spite of the attempts of bankers to make it so. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it's true on every level. Imagine the paradise we could be living in if we got rid of the debt system. Well, if we could get rid of these parasites, yeah, and that's all they are. Name me one good thing that Klaus Schwab has produced. Has he painted a picture? Has he written a symphony? Has he produced an automobile? What does this man do?

Nothing. I guess that's what you're referring to in the next title. It's called the monsters in the machine. Yeah, that's what they are. Yeah, that's exactly what they are.

And the subtitles here are seven. Sacred Sites and Scalar Temples. A, The Modern Rise of Earth Grid Theories. You have a whole book on that. Yes. B, Dr. Konstantin Mayl's Paleophysical Interpretation of Ancient Temples. Yeah, he was the German author I referred to earlier, Konstantin Mayl. Right. Right, right.

And yeah, I guess that's seven of number three. Sacrifice a scale of templates. Should we just pass by that? We've done that, haven't we? Yeah, we've done that. Yeah. Yeah. So eight is templates, genomes, and banksters, or why do they all seem to marry? Ha ha!

A, ancient Rome. B, the myth of the Rothschilds' descent from Nimrod, a second look. And that one is interesting. C, human DNA and the Hermetic Code. D, the ancient context, the Rothschild-Nimrod myth in a wider context. What is the Rothschild-Nimrod myth? Let's start there. Well, there is an author that put out the, popularized the idea that the Rothschilds traced their family line. Yeah.

back to Nimrod. And like many American authors, he just throws that out there without one footnote or one reference in support of it. So I caution people, what I'm about to say is I went looking for proof of that idea. In other words, is there any evidence out there that would tend to corroborate that assertion?

And believe it or not, there is, even though the assertion itself says that the Rothschild family traces their lineage back to Nimrod. Okay, that's the assertion. So I haven't been able to prove the assertion, but I did find it very curious that when you examine the British part of the family in the 1920s,

There was a son that was birthed to some Rothschild. I forget what his name was. And they gave that son the name of Nimrod. Yeah.

And I thought, you know, okay, this is not a typical name that your typical pious Jewish family gives a male offspring, you know, because the name Nimrod, of course, in the Old Testament is not exactly the name of a Jewish hero. You know, he's the name of a bad guy, a conqueror.

So I find it very peculiar that, you know, you would have this family naming a male heir Nimrod. An heir even. An heir, precisely. You know, Nimrod, okay, are we saying that there's going to be an heir that is going to be a world conqueror? Like, you know, a man of renown like Nimrod in the Old Testament? What are we saying? There's that problem.

The other thing that I think is very interesting and that I was trying to get at in that particular part of the book is when you look at these families that have been interconnected not only with high finance, particularly in Europe, to a lesser case you find the same phenomenon, of course, in Asia.

When you look at these families that have nobility in them and are connected to high finance, you find another interesting thing. You find not only are they obsessed with marrying inside their class. I'm thinking of the recent marriage of one of the Romanovs in St. Petersburg.

You know, this particular guy, Grand Duke Mikhail something or other, Romanov, marries this Italian lady who herself is coming from a noble family. You know, so they're still doing this by and large. Yeah.

You know, there are exceptions that come along. Yeah, there are a few freakish exceptions, especially here, up here. Yeah, there are. But most of them are maintaining, I call it the usurper line, the imposter line, because the Merovingians are the real royalty of

Europe. But of course, they are wiped out. So where did they all come from? Could they be of Nimrod line? Is that the idea? What I'm getting at here is that these families are apparently concerned with preserving something. And one of the most interesting things is when you start digging around into some of the weird genetic studies that have been done, there are, interestingly enough, there are genetic studies of the Habsburgs

with almost without limit for some reason people are studying the genome of that family but you get right down to it and and these families are interconnected in so many very weird ways that there's something about their their bloodline I think that they know and I have an anecdotal story to tell and I hope we can wrap it up and and move along after this in the next book

Because I'm beginning to wear. I don't have the stamina that I used to have. Of course. But years ago, Al, I met with Jim Mars at a conference that we were both attending and speaking at. This was in Laughlin, Nevada. And he invited me up to his room for some beer and some cigars. Of course, I don't drink, but I enjoyed his cigars. Yeah.

But we're sitting there and talking, and he showed me a picture of a book that he had in his collection. And I wish that I could buttress this with having that picture still on my records. I'm telling an anecdotal story that I have referred to on a couple of occasions before, and I wish I had some proof of it.

But Jim showed me this picture of a book, and it was a green leather-bound book with gold embossing. And it was obviously a very expensive book. And on the cover of the book, the leather cover, it had a gold-embossed image of the Habsburg Imperial Crown. And the title of the book says,

had something, and I don't even remember the title, but it did have the two words Erda, glory, and Habsburg in the title. And what the book was, and Jim proceeded to tell me what the book was about, it was a book that had been published, apparently, by and for members of the Habsburg family after the end of World War I.

So this would have been Kaiser Karl I, the last Habsburg emperor. It wasn't a thick book, but apparently it was a book that somehow was tracing the family line in all of its little nooks and crannies.

Which, as you know, are considerable throughout European history because, of course, you have the Austrian branch of the family, you have the Spanish branch of the family, and so on.

But it was a book that was very rare and apparently circulated only within the Habsburg family. And he did not have a copy of the book. All he had was a picture of the cover and the title and the information that it was about the Habsburg family bloodline was something that he was told, but he could not prove.

And he and I just speculated endlessly as to what that was. But what I think we're looking at there, and we talked about this, is I said, Jim, well, that sounds like it's kind of the Habsburg version of the Venetian Golden Book, which was the book that the Republic of Venice maintained concerning all of its nobility. Yeah.

So, I think if we put all this together, what we have are indications that these families preserve a lore and tradition concerning their family history that is probably very closely held.

and intensely private. Another such royal family, I'm convinced that in Europe has a similar history and has been very... Windsor. Well,

Well, the Windsors, absolutely. Or to give them their proper name, Sachse, Coburg, and Gotha. Right. Yeah. But the other one are the Hohenzollerns. Who are they? The German royal family. Okay. The Habsburgs? No, the Hohenzollern. Kaiser Wilhelm, his family.

Oh, the Habsburgs. That's Austria, isn't it? No, the Habsburgs are Austria. The German royal family is the whole of the southern family. Right. I mixed them now. So I'm with you. Yeah. I strongly suspect that there's something going on there, given...

Everything that, you know, I've talked about the roots of Prussia and the Teutonic Knights and Emperor Frederick II and so on. There's something else going on there. And I strongly suspect, given the fact that the Hohenzollerns are so closely intermarried with the Danish royal family and so on, that, you know, there's, and therefore, you know, into the Romanovs, there's something going on here.

that is worth considering. And in addition to considering that, people should be on the look for, and I've been fascinated with following this too, is the reemergence of the symbolism associated with these royal traditions, specifically in Europe. And by this, I mean, if you look at the symbology that Vladimir Putin is surrounded with,

Whenever you see pictures of him talking from his office in the Kremlin, behind him you see this enormous Russian flag with the Romanov Imperial Eagle boldly emblazoned on it.

When you see him passing the Kremlin guards in their dress uniforms, those are 18th century uniforms, and most people don't know what they are. Those uniforms are the uniforms of the Preoprezhensky-Prikat Regiment, the Tsar's personal guard.

Yeah, but Putin isn't like... Yes, he was out of KGB, but he wasn't anti-royal or anti-communist. No, no, that's precisely the point I'm trying to make. You're witnessing something going on inside of Europe with the return of all of these royal symbols, and the whopper of them all that just to this day I am at a loss to explain.

In Germany, I don't know if you know this, Al, in Berlin, they rebuilt, and by the way, they rebuilt it by crowdfunding part of it. They rebuilt the old Staatsschloss, the old Kaiserschloss in Berlin. By crowdfunding. And I don't know if you've seen pictures of this building. It is quite literally the old state imperial palace.

And they built it on the old location it used to occupy. So if you look at this building, it was not a cheap thing to build. So it could be something deeper than just nostalgia going on here. Yeah, there's something going on. Yeah, precisely. There's something beyond nostalgia going on here. This is precisely my point. And I haven't a clue as to what it is.

I have lots of speculative scenarios. But part of it, I think, is it's tapping into this worldwide movement or need to get back to cultural tradition. In other words, we're watching, I think, manifestations of the bankruptcy, the cultural bankruptcy of

of Mr. Technocrat and people like Bail Gates or Der Hochklaus von Blochschwab, as I like to call him, were watching their whole dream of a technocratic future kind of coming unraveled.

I don't think ultimately that's the way that the real powers that be want to move. And I think there are little signs that they're making the play to tap into this vast populist cultural...

That's the problem. The signs are divergent. We see signs of both going on. Maybe there's a war, actually, a battle behind the scenes. Well, that could very well be, too. At this stage, Al, we're all reading tea leaves, and none of the models that anybody has are particularly...

are particularly good for prediction because most of the models have some serious flaws. But there is something going on. And to me, the symbolism here is...

is the Germans spending all that money to rebuild a monument of their imperial past that, you know, the Soviets tore down and built this... You think the smackdown on this network in Germany could have something to do with it? Because Germany, the inept, incompetent fools in charge of Germany now, as we discussed last time, are shooting their own economy in the foot. Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with it. Yes, I do. Mm-hmm.

For a while, Schultz I can't understand. For that matter, I couldn't understand Merkel because this shooting in the foot... I mean, he makes Merkel seem like... Well, he makes Merkel seem... Yeah, he makes Merkel seem like she was sane. But, you know, most of this gutting of the German economy and...

institutions, including their military, began under her, not Scholz. Scholz is just kind of the icing on the cake. Yeah, but the ultimate surrender is to be on board with the terror against themselves. Right. The Nord Stream pipeline. I mean, that's... Oh, yeah. Talk about masochism. Well, you know, again, I...

Sooner or later, Al, this is the other thing that I think we have to reconcile ourselves to. Sooner or later. I just cannot, as an American, and I look at what this country is doing...

around the world, I wonder that we have any allies left at all. Yeah. Allies. I mean, they're bribed or threatened. That's how they're keeping them in line. Well, you know, to me, it's a matter of time before Europe bolts. And it's going to be one of the three major European powers that'll start the process. It'll either be France, Italy, or Germany. Yeah.

Yeah, but it presupposes a populism rising to power because their handlers are in power right now in Europe. Oh, yeah, I know the handlers are in power right now. But again, I don't see how the technocrats can sustain this game.

over the long haul. I just do not see it happening. Actually, the tragedy in Israel seems to be fueling the dissent between Europe and America right now. It's the first sign of a crack in that unipolar. Well, precisely. The American attitude is Israel can do no wrong. And I absolutely abhor

what was done to all those Israelis. To me, it was barbaric. But by the same token, of course it was barbaric. But by the same token, telling 2 million people that they've got to pick up and move because we're coming in. And carpet bombing. And carpet bombing. Again, this is just barbarism. Echoes of...

The Second World War. Well, yeah, it's echoes. Yeah, it's echoes of not just the Second World War. It's echoes of Ashurbanipal, you know. What's that? Ashurbanipal. It's echoes of Assyria, you know. Ah, ancient. Right, right. Yeah, the ancient Syrian king. Right. You know, it's more like echoes of that guy. But it's just mind-boggling.

So, yeah. We will not have to face the facts. We will not get around to Vipers of Venice today. Let's just end it on this book, because we have one more chapter to go. Although we've covered most of this, but there's more to say. The last chapter is called The Bankster's Real Business.

The pattern of war, scarcity, suppression. We've talked about this. A, the historical patterns of suppression. B, the physics, the financial alchemy, and the banksters. Right. We've covered this before, actually. Yeah.

But long story short, the bank has suppressed zero-point energy systems primarily because it's a simple proliferation. That worst-case scenario is, as you always like to say, planet-busting. Bingo! And so they needed a way to control and track everyone before it could see the light of day.

And which is actually where we are now. Right. Meanwhile, they needed to keep the old and dirty energy floating by all means. Of course. Because it's in the financial sector. We have to look. Right, right. But the fact that they're losing the madman MBS, whatever his name is, if he really goes full bricks, the dollar is over.

Well, I think you're seeing signs of it being over already. But I see other signs, man. So I think Catherine Fitz is on the money when she says that their ultimate desire is to reintroduce the feudal system and slavery. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely it is. Question is just, can they do it gradually or do they need a hard reset?

I think they ultimately are going to need a hard one. And I'm also with Catherine Fitz. I don't see anything that they're going to try ultimately being able to work.

No, notwithstanding that there are parts in the elite who is earning on the current system where the plebs actually can produce and make something for themselves. Let's call them real capitalists. There are still small power pockets in play that will not earn on the... Well, this is why I stressed earlier the idea that you have this worldwide...

trend and and it's i think it's being mislabeled populism uh what i really think it is this is a reassertion of people wanting their traditional culture and being able to have it and live in it and express it without fear of reprisal or recrimination or whatever that's right that's right i i think i think this is what you're seeing and it's

It's occurring as kind of a shock to Mr. Globalone because Mr. Globalone hasn't one cultural bone in his body. You know, it's all process and technocracy for him. The idea that Beethoven might have something to do with it just doesn't enter their thinking. Yeah.

I can't blame her for that. Well, I'm not a big Beethoven fan either, but you know what I'm saying. But transhumanism, eugenics, all that stuff is represented in their culture. There is a left-wing version of this populism, which is about regaining control of the labor market. Oh, yes, absolutely there is. And control what they have achieved of, I don't know what we call it, welfare state. Well,

Well, just look at this country and what's happening in this country politically, because you have two wealthy outsiders that are both running for president.

that represent this left and right-wing populism, and that's Robert Kennedy Jr. and Donald Trump. And, you know, as far as I'm concerned, these two guys just represent the kind of politics that I remember as a boy. You know, they're not radicals at all. No.

They're representing a cultural phenomenon that the people in the swamp no longer represent and never will. And Vivek represents a third counter. Sure, yes, he does. He represents the classical free market lovers, the libertarians, those who won't earn on a new slavery. Well, I think Vivek Ramaswamy represents something else. And it's not well...

appreciated yet. But I think it's going to be. If you look at the culture of American politics right now, it's very, very similar in some ways, but not completely, to what has been

in Europe, and until very recently in history inside of Russia. And that is that the political class, the political leadership class, is quite simply sclerotic. It's old. We're looking at a gerontocracy. Even Robert Kennedy is now getting up there in years. Donald Trump is on his way to being in his 80s.

And sooner or later, the younger generation has to take over. And that's what I think Vivek Ramaswamy actually represents.

He's representing that up-and-coming generation that is tired of looking at all these old geezers on top of Lenin's tomb, waving at them as the people go goose-stepping by, and they want something different. They want a legitimate, honest-to-goodness, real change in the leadership. I mean, my God, Al, look at the people running the American Senate right now.

Yeah. Mitch McConnell can't talk any more plainly than Joe Biden. And Chuck Schumer has been around in Congress since the Waco fiasco under the Clinton administration. People are just sick and tired of these people. Yeah. And I am fine. Feinstein, you know, Dianne Feinstein had to be wheeled into Congress and told how to vote.

So, in other words, we don't even have representatives anymore in some cases because someone else is telling them how to vote. Pelosi. Yeah. Pelosi. Yeah, but look, yes, many neocons are old, but they have new versions too, like Blinken, Nikki Haley. Oh, please. Ha ha ha.

They are inept, but they are still on the scene.

This is a signal that the old staged, televised, stick with our list of questions that we gave you type of debates are no longer going to hash it in American politics. I think the same thing, we're getting signs that the same thing is going to bust loose eventually in France. I think there are definite indicators that it busted loose long ago in Italy, but

And the same thing in the Netherlands. So this, I think, is a global trend. We're not going to be able to put this back into the neat and tidy box that Mr. Global only wants to put us back into. That's the problem. No, absolutely. But these are political waves happening on top of the economy. If you want to know the future for real, we have to study where the economy goes. We started with...

with talking about the Bilderberger Group, which today I think is better represented by WEF. Yes, I agree. It seems to me that the real financial war which WEF is involved in, that there are different players in the American power bases. Some are on board with the WEF. Yes. Some seems to be working against them. And that is interesting.

Yeah, there is a segment, and this is what I was trying to get at, with some of the American states and their bullion depositories, their constitutional money resolutions, and in some states,

just outright passage of state nullification laws in anticipation of federal overreach. And if you don't know what nullification laws are, this is the idea that really underpinned the Confederacy.

because nullification comes out of certain ideas that James Madison promulgated in the Federalist Papers. Certainly the Southern statesman John C. Calhoun talked about this idea a great deal. But this idea that basically if the federal government

either passes a law requiring the states to do certain things to surrender their sovereignty, or in the case of some laws, doesn't act to enforce them, that the state has to step in and do so. And this is exactly what you see Governor Abbott in Texas doing when he's using state authorities to shut down the border.

because basically he just came right out and signed a declaration as the governor that since the federal government is no longer controlling the border, we're facing an invasion. And that's the word he used in his declaration. And we're going to have to deal with it at the state level. So what you're seeing, what I'm getting at, what you're seeing in this country is you're seeing pushback from the states to the federal government.

And if the current trends continue as they are, then this is a phenomenon that's only going to increase. In other words, the country is headed for a crack up if the current trends continue. So buckle in, folks. We're in for kind of a bumpy ride.

Indeed we are. Indeed we are. As history has shown, it's always been. Yep. Should we say a little more about this and wrap it up? Oh, sure. Yeah. I mean, it can't get much worse, can it? It has to be better. Well, this country, well, there's only two courses forward. Either they try to solve the problem by going into a full, open, outright tyranny, which they're trying to do, and it's already failing. Mm-hmm.

But even if they succeed in putting that into place, it will unravel much faster, I think, than did the old Soviet Union or Nazi Germany, or as is the case now, communist China unraveling. Or it will result in the crack up of the country. And the Russians are already... Medvedev just...

published a thing in Russia today where he says it looks to him like the US is heading towards civil war. Well, it's interesting that Medvedev would say this because, number one, he's not stupid. Okay. And secondly, he's the deputy chairman of the Russian Federation's National Security Council. So in other words, to me, this sounds like they're doing an analysis as the Russians would do

of what's the future trend for this and that country that we've got to deal with on the world stage. And to me, this is Russia saying it looks to us and our analysis like the USA is headed for some sort of crack-up. Yeah, one way or the other. And I honestly, we're at the point now that

that the two political parties, at least in their ideological public commitments, cannot talk to each other.

We have a radically woke left running things in this country, and the rest of us, and I'm proud to number myself among them, do not want to go down that route and will not do so. My analysis is different. To me, it looks as if the two parties, you are stuck in the left-right economy deliberately because it's all about... Well, yeah, look.

Don't get me wrong, Al. I am not saying I agree with the binary left-right dichotomy. I am not saying that I think that in Swampington, D.C., there are two real political parties. Right, right, right, right, right.

There is only a uniparty. Corporatism. Yeah. And that party is interested in themselves. But I'm talking about the culture. Okay. You're right. I do not want to live in the culture that the Democratic Party and its leadership wants to produce in this country. I do not. Right.

I do not want to pay for abortions on demand through the full term of a pregnancy. I do not. I do not want to have my tax dollars going to support infanticide and child sacrifice. I do not, because that's what it is. Right. I do not want to live in that country. And that's where most Americans feel. That's why you see...

I don't know. I think of it, Al, as a kind of messianic support of Trump because I don't view him that way. I'm not a Trump can do no wrong guy. I'm not. I think people have latched on to him because he's the symbol of

of that rejection of what this country has become under this foul, corrupt, evil government in Swampington, D.C. I'm an anti-federalist, and I've said this all along.

Had I been alive during the time of the 1787 Philadelphia Convention, I would have been one of those like Patrick Henry, loudly screaming at every opportunity that this so-called Constitution is a recipe for oligarchy. Mm-hmm.

And that's what it has become. Yeah. University studies confirm it. Yep. And people are waking up to that much thanks to... Oh, you have to just look at the numbers behind Trump's poll numbers. Those numbers are really... They are not reflective so much, in my opinion, of support of Trump as they are, number one, of the rejection of the system...

And for them right now, Biden represents the system. It's not rejection of Biden. It's rejection of the system. And number two, it's rejection of this constant inability of the people that run this country to represent or be responsive to any of the needs of the people. My God.

We just had the president, and I'm putting that in quotation marks, of this country go all the way to Hawaii, where he made comparisons to the disaster that some of them just lived through to a kitchen fire that he had and the fact that he lost his cat and nearly lost his Corvette.

This is not just a senile, demented man. This is an evil man talking. Yeah, the elites are out of touch. They can't relate. They don't relate. They don't want to relate. Even when they try. Even when they try. Before they could fake it. Before they could fake it. They could be a George Herbert Walker Bush and pretend to be grandpa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't have anybody that's capable of that anymore.

And on top of this, he said, well, you'll get a $700 one-time payment from the government. While the illegals coming across the border in this country are pulling down in excess of $2,000 a month. Right. Now, tell me how this system is going to appeal to any American. It's not viable. It's not viable. Of course not. Something's got to give.

Something will give. And I guarantee you that it will either issue in the sheeple going back to their sheep pens and led like slaughters, lambs to the slaughter, and it will issue in a tyranny and that tyranny cannot in itself last or it's going to crack up.

But if America falls, we're all screwed. And what worries me is that you were referencing how there actually are huge protests around the world, which it is, all over the world. Yes. But it's not reported. Yes. And it's been going on now for at least 10 years. Absolutely. It's thematically not reported because the press is co-opted. But the problem is if Americans, like if they now take down Bobby and Don...

I don't see Americans getting out on the street and actually fighting. I don't see... You have no history for this. It looks as if you accept everything over there. And if you don't fight... Well, yeah. There are talk show hosts in this country that refer to the American sheeple. And yes, that's the bulk of the population. I'll tell you my reading on the situation is this.

What Trump and Kennedy represent is not simply a hatred of the system. It is a last-ditch effort by people who are fed up with the way that things are going to address a correction of the system from within the rules that the system itself has laid down. It's a last-ditch attempt. Mm-hmm.

In other words, we're in the glasnost and perestroika phase of the American empire. The path forward is either a Stalin-esque regime or a crack-up. And I rather suspect that depending on how this next election goes, the signs are already here, I can assure you.

Because I listen to a lot of things, Al, in this country at a local and state and regional level. I do not listen to the national news. And I can assure you that at the local and regional level, people are not only mad, they are saying things that five years ago they never would. And I include myself in that. Are saying things they never would have said five years ago. Yeah.

Ever. Not as a matter of public record. They can kill some of us, but they can't kill all of us.

That's the way I feel right now. And there's a lot of people. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that we're going to go out and get in the streets. Well, if you have to. If they kill both. Yeah. It's getting to the point where people, I mean, Al, the anger coming out of Maui about the government's response.

And Biden's response is off the charts, hopping, livid, white-hot mad. I'm surprised that it is as calm as it has been. It's only going to grow. And the more they keep pulling these stunts, and I believe Maui was a stunt, a disgusting one. The more they pull this... BlackRock will take over everything. Oh, look, I'm in a state right now

that recently passed a law where the state pension funds cannot be banked with any bank promoting a political or woke agenda. I'm literally in one of those states. And there is currently a major flap going on in this state because they wanted to pull the pensions funds that were in BlackRock out of BlackRock. Mm-hmm.

So in other words, people are waking up. Now, whether or not it's going to be in time, I don't know. But the very fact that as a matter of state law,

that you have even broached the subject means that there is a revolt taking place. And it's taking place at the state level. And it will only grow. But a very small example, Al, and this, you know, I notice the little things. I notice the little things. I'm not concerned with the big trends, right?

And I'll tell you one of the most significant little things I noticed, have noticed in the last year and a half is an increase of the amount of people that I see in the grocery store line, either using cash or writing a good old fashioned paper check and presenting their identification, their driver's license and, you know, all that other stuff.

And I've even noticed an increase of store cashiers and clerks that actually know how to count my chains back to me. That's amazing. Yeah. And Al, you know, this may seem like an insignificant thing, but three years ago, I can assure you

Virtually no cashier that I ever checked out with at a grocery store would ever count my change back to me, number one, or if they attempted to do so, knew how to do it. Now it's becoming more common. I'm not saying it's as common as it was when I was a boy.

But it's coming back. And what does that tell me? That tells me more people are using cash. As long as it's allowed. Not even then. They're insisting on it. In this country, they are passing laws at the state level that

to not only ban the use of central bank digital currencies, but some of those same states are passing laws recognizing the use of bullion as legal tender and are abolishing the sales tax on it because you can't tax money. So in other words, what I'm telling you is there are practical signs out there

that are not ever being reported on the national lamestream prop attainment media. And what those signs indicate is that the revolt is underway. And in addition to that, people are taking steps at local and regional levels to undo all of the things that Mr. Globoloni is trying to put into place at national and international levels. This is not a trend that's going to stop.

It is not. No matter what happens in America, I think BRICS will win unless there's a nuclear war and we will move into a multipolar world. Oh, we're already in the multipolar world. This is the other thing that Americans and in Europe, you've got to get through.

And in fact, I think in Europe, you guys realize it much better than we do in this country. The only thing that's keeping you back from it is you've got a bunch of leadership in Europe. I mean, look at the Germans. They haven't had a good leader since Bismarck. Yeah, but the current Stooges makes Merkel look like a genius. Oh, he's an absolute... I mean, who is this clown?

I mean, he's a sausage on a stick. I mean, he's just, oh, God. You know, and then it's not much better in France. It boggles my mind.

And Britain, well, again, we've had a string of non-entities after Margaret Thatcher, and that's going back quite a ways. And you may not have agreed with her, but at least you know where she stood. I think that Britain's Trump kind of is Nigel Farage.

Well, yes, I agree. I agree. And he may now actually manage to get back into the... It was a gift. For those who don't know, they cancelled him economically, like they did with the truckers. And that has actually kick-started a campaign

Oh, yeah. Now. So that may be the only. Because there was a hope with Jeremy Corbyn. He was unrigged. And then the MI5 guy, Keith Stomer, they managed to finally get rid of Corbyn. So now there's like two cheeks of the same ass, just like in America. But Farage may be the solution there. It's refreshing to me to see what Londoners are doing with all the cameras on stoplights.

What are they doing? They're taking them down. Ah, right, right, right. You know, they're trying to put in all of this woke, environmentally protected, you know, all this crap in London, of all places. And people are simply taking them down. You know, they're waiting until after sunset or whatever and firing BB guns. You know, they're doing anything they can to...

And according to something- I thought they did the same with 5G towers. Well, look, I saw something that said that about 400,000 of these cameras have been destroyed around London. And London was one of the most surveilled cities in the world. Oh, I know it is. I know it is. And more power to them. Every time I go under one of those traffic light cameras, I flip them the finger. But anyway-

But I think it's getting to that point that people are just getting fed up. It's like Zolzhenitsyn said, when you've taken everything away from me, I have nothing left to lose. That's right. And this is what they're doing to us in the West. They are taking away everything. They're taking away our ability to have a livelihood, to have a peaceful private life. Yeah.

and attempting to tell us what shots to take and when to take them and how much we have to take. And at a certain point, when they take everything from you, you've got nothing left to lose. And a lot of people are approaching that stage when they think they've got nothing left to lose. And when that happens, people get dangerous. And God help the political elites.

Yeah, they forgot the lessons of the past. Appeasement worked much better for them. But again, it doesn't seem like they want to maintain things anymore. It looks like as if they're deliberately escalating. I'm thinking CBCDs. I'm thinking complete control over the internet and the press. I'm thinking all the neoliberal studios in the different Western regimes.

I'm thinking micromanaging and the tyranny of how they manage us. I wouldn't be surprised if people in the future are starting to flee over to BRICS countries to be free, ironically. I will tell you, there has been for about the last 10 to 15 years, there has been a quiet exodus from

people from this country to other countries. I know of one author, an old-fashioned kind of center-left liberal sociological scholar that was an author of some well-received books about 10, 15 years ago that just so could not stomach the direction that America was headed in.

that he emigrated to Mexico. Even Jesse Ventura did that. Even Jesse Ventura did that. Now, you know, and Mexico does not have a good reputation in this hemisphere of the world. But when things get so bad that the government of Mexico is much to be preferred to your own. And I understand his reasons. And by the way, this man...

traces the roots of these reasons back to the founding of the country he does not pull any punches wow uh and surprisingly the second thing he traces it to is is the southern defeat in the civil war which for me was very surprising coming from a modern yeah center-left liberal scholar um

It really was kind of shocking to see what his analysis of that whole period of American history was. But my point here is that there are people leaving this country. And I'll be blunt with you. I have entertained the thought myself. If I had the money and I... It would have to be South America for you because you refused to fly. Yeah.

Oh, I would take a boat. I wouldn't hesitate to go to your hemisphere of the world if I could get there by boat. Yeah, Portugal is very popular these days among Americans. Well, yeah. A place with some history and pretty scenery. But I know another case of an American Orthodox priest that left this country and moved his entire family to Russia.

Because again, he didn't even like the Orthodox Church over here. That's like, oh my God, that's like coming to Norway. I would rather go to Greece. The weather is just horrible and

in Russia. Well, yeah, I know, I know, I know, but I just, you know, I'm from that part of the world where we have real good winters, so Russia or Norway wouldn't bother me at all. But my point is, there are a lot of Americans that... Look at Catherine. She spends most of her time now... She's become Dutch. Yeah, she spends most of her time in Europe. And quite frankly, I don't blame her. I don't blame her. This country is...

utterly nuts. But she's a sophisticated soul. She takes pleasure in the traditional stuff in your opera, right? The art, the music. Well, I know, but that's my point. You used to have at least some of those things here. And even that's... You can't... Al, it's so bad. You can't even go to the Metropolitan Opera.

that they haven't tinkered with the libretto of this or that opera in the name of wolkery. In fact, I'll go you one further. The American composer George Gershwin composed an opera

called Porgy and Bess, and it's about black people. I know the opera, but I didn't know what it was about. Yeah, it's about black people. And I don't know the last time that there was a performance of that opera at the Met.

Because apparently it's not woke enough. You know, it's just nuttery. It's just all nuttery over here. We're more concerned about... But the whole woke thing, I think, is brilliant to split. They need to split people. Split and rule, right? Oh, that's exactly what they're doing. Yes, I agree. Right? So let's use culture because the corporations, they don't care. Yeah, let's use rainbow flag on our bombs, whatever. Because...

the bottom line for them is control and money. And the wokeness won't threaten that. If anything, they can probably monetize it. So it's a brilliant distraction. But I think the fact that what I didn't get to say earlier when we lost ourselves in politics is that the real dichotomy going on, not just in America, but it's more explicit and obvious there. It's

really all over the rest of the world, is central, centralism, authoritarianism, establishment versus populism, autonomy, decentralization. That's the real, and you find the centralist stooges in both Republicans and Democrats, and you find populism, authoritarianism,

among both Republicans and Democrats, especially among the voters, right? Yes. So they need to keep us distracted with the cultural bullshit. Yeah, absolutely. So that they can, you know, maintain. But I think even that one is cracking. I see people coming together left and right, so-called left and right. Oh, yeah. It seems to be a consensus that when we have our freedoms back, when we have our rights back, our country back, then we can go back to discussing traditional left, right issues.

Exactly. And that is, I think, happening here. More and more. More and more. Yeah. If you look, for example, at Trump's base of support, you'll find a lot of demographics in his... I'll tell you one. Communists for Trump. What about them? They exist. Look, I'm not surprised. You know, Trump...

Trump has brought in demographic groups that were once considered solidly democratic as supporters in his coalition. And I think if you look at the numbers behind Bobby Kennedy, that you're seeing a similar phenomenon, albeit on a slightly smaller scale with him as well. Yeah, but I think he has the potential because it seems to me that those who identify as the traditional right-wing

They are more open to entertaining, to cross traditional borders. It didn't used to be. Back in the Bush days, it was the opposite. But they will not have a problem voting for Bobby. No, I would agree with you. Right? Yeah, I think so. So it's harder for a so-called leftist to vote for Trump, notwithstanding all the demonization. Well, I think it's easier for people to vote for Bobby Kennedy simply because the people on the right that would be

entertaining the possibility of voting for him are people that are disappointed with Trump's handling of the planned scandemic and all of that. I really think that's where... And he had four years to take down the deep state, and it didn't happen. Right, right, right. Okay.

Yeah, I know we're in a new era now. We can't go on like five, six hours like we did in the old days. So I guess I'll try to get back with you in a couple of months then to take the next book. Yeah, that's all right. Because when I look at the index of the next book, I get almost depressed. It's so packed with information, man.

that it deserves its own show. But if you want to get Joseph's, the main book we've been talking about today, of course, it ties into the two other books we mentioned and we will cover them. But

Babylon Banksters, Joseph, do you still recommend it or is it outdated? Oh, no. I think it's a good background to understand what's going on today. No, I think all of these books still have a great deal of relevance. I really do. They're almost eerily uncanny sometimes when I wrote them and what we see going on today. They fit all the patterns. Yeah, but that book is still available. You can get it off my website, pdp.com.

Or you can get it from the publisher, which is Feral House. F-E-R-A-L.

in the United States or Amazon carries the book. Yeah, and a hot tip for the cheapskates and the real poor. If you look up, I don't know if they're still available, but if you look up old Bacho, she has hours and hours with you on just this book alone. Yeah, she does. Yeah. It's an important book. Financial Vipers and Phantoms, same thing. All my books are on my website.

And if people do order the books off my website, I get a little extra few pennies royalties, which I could use right now because I'm spending money at a hemorrhage rate researching this new book, which I hope will be another book in this finance culture, whatever you want to call it, series.

Is it Adventures Unlimited, Guy, who is your main publisher today? Actually, Financial Vipers of Venice and Babylon's Banksters were published by Farrell House. Both of them. Thrice Great Hermetica and the Janus Age was published by Adventures Unlimited. Yeah, and that book you never covered with George Ann, so for sure I'll cover that deeper with you.

But you think you can get back already in January for the Vipers? Possibly in January, but please after the Epiphany. I take the entire holiday series and then the... Yeah, the old Orthodox in you. The old Orthodox holidays. I take all that off. And it might have to actually be after...

January 10th, which is my birthday. I might be taking this day. Ah, is it now? At the end of the epiphany? At the end of the epiphany period, yeah. I'm an epiphany, yes. So the epiphany brought something great. That's good. Well, unfortunately, my birthday falls in between Joseph Stalin and Robert E. Lee. So...

I'm in semi-good company there. Like you said, astrology isn't meant on an individual level. Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Hey, there's one thing we forgot and we'll do it now. Oh. So, Joseph, before we leave, your website, let me give a shout out for your website. Ah. Let's remind people that maybe I have a lot of new listeners. Many of them have come after your time. Uh-huh. So, they may not be intimately familiar with you. Uh-huh. So, your website is still called Giza Death Star, isn't it? Yes. www.gizadeathstar.com. It's G-I-Z-A and then just add Death Star, all one word.

And the books, all my books are there on the website. You can order them right off the website. And more than that, you also have a section with bonus stuff for members, right? Yeah, I have a public blog site. I blog every week. And I also do a little podcast about 15, 20 minutes length once every week. And that's on the public site. And then there's a members area there.

which is a paywall subscription area. I do vid chats twice a month with my members, and we have a good time. We spend a lot of time. We go in depth on questions, talks, and it's kind of a freewheeling group of people. We've got everything you can think of that are members of my website, and we

We talk about whatever we want to talk about, and we talk about it more or less freely. No censorship there. But in News and Views of the Nefarium, the vid blog you do, is that a sample of what you're doing for the... I... Mercer, or is it something else? Well, News and Views has changed. It's now only audio. I used to do it on YouTube, and it was video, but YouTube...

Just censored the daylights out of me, particularly during the pandemic for, you know, calling the quote so-called science behind it quackery, which is it turns out exactly what it was. And the so-called quack scenes, I was early out of the gate saying there's no way I'm going to go along with this stuff. And again, so I just quit YouTube video. Mm hmm.

Okay, man. It was absolutely fun to go down this road with you today. We did three hours, actually. That's great. Are you exhausted?

I am tired, yeah. I don't, you know, it's funny. When I practiced Bruno, I used to, when I was in high school and college, whenever I practiced on the organ, it would be, you know, five or six hours straight. Yeah. And I just don't have the energy to do it anymore. Not even to do creative work, because that's one of the things you can do for hours and hours without getting tired. Even that is more difficult for me. You know, I make the joke now that there's...

There are certain organ pieces that if I do well enough, I feel like I've run a four-minute fugue. I mean, I can understand there's a lot of energy consumption going into it if you were playing Bach. Oh, yeah. And I've heard you play Bach. Is those files still available? I downloaded some of them. Yeah.

Well, the organ, the only two things that are on my website that I've done with Bruno, I have to pay someone to record those, and it's rather expensive. I did a little talk about how pipe organs work, and that's in the members area of the website. Then I did what I call a little talk on effect in Lerner. It's about 20 minutes long.

And you can hear me playing some things in that, but it's mostly just me talking about it. No, I had some faults, but you may have played it digitally. Oh, the harpsichord concertos? Yeah, those are in the website, but that's not me. For one thing, I can't play all the orchestral parts in those pieces myself, so it's the computer playing it.

Right. But your compositions, right? Yeah, they are my compositions. Right. Yeah. I used one of them as an intro to a show and I was editing it so much that that song became, were you a brain lice? What do you say in English? Like, I couldn't get it out of my mind.

Oh, yeah. It was playing again and again and again. I believe you. You did a Bach there. Well, yeah. I was doing experiments in those pieces. My experiment was, I despise originality for originality's sake. Right. I really do. Yeah. Those old masters learned, you know, they had the Latin expression, «Ali te fac, do otherwise».

So the way they would learn is they would take some theme by some recognized master and do something different with it. And that's actually the way my organ teacher taught me, is he would sit down, he'd start playing a Bach fugue, and then he'd say, well, he could have done this here, and he'd do something different with it.

And that's the way you learn. And in fact, that's the way that J.S. Bach learned. That's the way that Mozart learned. Haydn, you know, all these people. Brilliant, yes. A metaphor would be instead of inventing a new code system,

Take the code system that's already there and start tweaking it, start improving it, start experimenting with it, become familiar with it. Oh, yeah. Well, listen, my next music project, if I get done with it, I'm trying to relearn the 532, which is the catalog number for a particular Bach organ, Prelude and Fugue. Mm-hmm.

And it's the prelude and fugue that every organist has to learn but dreads doing so, because it's like a Chopin piano etude. It's just monstrously virtuosic and difficult to play. But it's also, if you don't listen to the right interpretation of that particular piece, you're going to miss all the coding in it.

It's a very heavily, in fact, I'll share a little secret. As I started to relearn this piece, I went back and looked at the score again. That's the first thing my old teacher told me to do. Don't play one note until you sit down and analyze the score and really have a good idea of what's going on. And most organists in this particular piece, particularly in the prelude, don't really understand what's going on.

So I play it quite a bit differently. There's one organist in Great Britain that plays it much like my old teacher used to play it. But...

I don't think even he understands what's going on in one particular section of the score, which I have just myself uncovered. And it's, again, it's a lot of code, Al, to be quite honest with you. Yeah. And I want to do a little video of this particular piece of music, and particularly that particular section talking about the code.

because one of my one of my frequent guests, I think you are probably the most frequent, but another one, he is a professional organist. He plays in church. He's Norwegian.

He, because he said to me in one of the shows, he said, because of my training in Bach, that's how I became so good in steganography, which is a code system. Oh, yes, absolutely. Yeah. That he's using. Oh, man. One of these days. You know, if you're dealing with that kind of organist, then yeah, it sounds to me like you're dealing with somebody that

recognizes all the coding going on. I did a little talk in my members area called a little talk on effect in there. And I decode a particular piece, not by Bach, but by Buxtehude, you know, Bach sort of the Bach before Bach kind of Bach's organ music mentor. But again, there's just heavy coding going on in it. And

You can listen to that. It's about 20 minutes long if you want. Yeah, but I just got the notion that one of these days...

I should get you and Petra, the other guy, on at the same time and simply discuss this phenomenon. No shows about this. Yeah, there's a lot of coding in that music. I think the reason that people don't go there or want to talk about it is that a lot of it is very explicitly Christian. But what that does is it just tells me that people are afraid to investigate the sheer genius of these people that

thought all this stuff up and then made it, you know, put it into their music and made the music coherent. And, you know, there's coding going on and hiding all over the place that, again, most people don't take the time. I mean, if you sit and listen to his oratorio, the coding in that oratorio is just off the chart.

And, you know, it's lovely, beautiful music, but you stop and look at the codes in it, and it's just off the chart. The funny thing is, this can also be done in literature. Oh, literature, absolutely. You know, the Plato code, right? Oh, yes, absolutely. Absolutely. You know, Gematria, the whole idea of Gematria in literature is coming out of this. So, you know, to me, it's just kind of fun. And then you...

But this is the principle we discussed today. Yeah, it is.

is numbers in space and that music is numbers in time. Time. That's right. That's right. So everything is pointing to a root cause. I guess it goes back to the topological metaphor. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Those rhetorical tropes are patterns and you can find them over and over again. That's it. Yeah. Okay. Brilliant analysis as always, Professor. Well, thank you, Al. Thanks for having me back. I'm

We'll do the other books that you wanted to do in some future installments. Let me know when you get the links up. Absolutely. Thank you so much for coming. Yeah, well, thanks for having me back. It was a lot of fun. Good times, good times. Take care now. All right. Yep, you too. Talk to you soon. Bye-bye. Thus far today. But this story isn't over, so we'll follow it up another time with Joseph.

Now, isn't it interesting in retrospective to hear some of our predictions that actually came true? As I read this post commentary, the whole thing has unfolded. And just like I said, they planned to switch Biden after the primaries and right before the convention. So I was on the money there.

But neither me nor Joss suggested Kamala in the discussion because back then she wasn't even taken seriously by the top echelon of Democrats. But as it turned out, they hadn't any other choice than to go for her because all the money that Biden had gathered from his bosses...

oligarchs by law cannot be transferred to a random outsider like Gavin Newsom or Gretchen Whitmore or whoever else the establishment corporate democrat they were thinking of so they were hoping for so only Kamala could legally take over because she was already on the ticket and I guess we should never underestimate the machine

How they could take a completely unelected person who was disliked, who dropped out the last round. Nobody voted for her, neither then nor now.

But maybe, maybe it was in the plans because I remember she was put, forced upon Biden by, was it the Clinton faction or was it the Obama faction? I don't remember. But she used to, you know, both her and Peter Buttigieg, Buttigieg, whatever his name is, were like perfect Manchurians.

perfect groomed candidates for their agenda which is to be a face of the machine to be a face of the deep state to be a face of the corporations and the oligarchs an empty shell a mask that just recites the slogans the culture war stuff the woke stuff whatever you want to call it

and otherwise business as usual, and is malleable to instigate or maintain wars, even if it should delve into a world war. So, as I see it, these people who have hijacked the Democrat Party are very dangerous. I mean, I have no choice. It's over for me because of their cracking down on free speech, their incredible censorship. And as Kennedy says...

Have you ever heard about anyone in history supporting censorship that were the good guys? Not only has censorship never worked, it has never achieved anything in history, although it's older than free speech, and also never has the good guys promoted it. So here we are. I am dependent on free speech. So for me, anything goes. And now that

RFK has suspended his campaign in the swing states so that he doesn't take votes from Trump. This so-called unity ticket may still make it.

So what that really means is that if you live in a swing state, he will not be a spoiler. So he will remove his name from there, but he will stay on all other states. And you can say then, yeah, what's the point of voting for him? Well, it's a huge reason to do that, because if he gets 5% or more votes,

which is very likely he's been up to 19% in the polls. Then his party, we the people, are secure for the next election. Then they have ballot access and funding and everything automatically. That's the bar nobody has managed to reach yet.

At least not in recent times. Of course, the libertarians and the greens have come closest, but for the first time, there's a possibility to break out of the duopoly, the polarity you guys are stuck in. I mean, America is just like China. The difference is China is honest about it being one party. So you have to vote for different representatives within that party.

In the US, you have the Uniparty and then you have the dissent on both sides. Now, the dissent in the Democrats are crushed. And, I mean, Bernie kowtowed and they have chased RFK out. So, after doing this coup, first they kick RFK out, then even Biden, it has become the complete tool of the wannabe totalitarians. So,

I think the best thing you can do if you don't live in a swing state, then you have the option to vote Kennedy and should do it. Let's say you live in a state which is blue and the Dems are going to win anyway, then you will contribute to future democracy if you vote Kennedy. If you live in a red state, Republicans are safe, so you can spend your vote, invest your vote smart and help get up to 5%.

Otherwise, you may want to consider voting the unity ticket. And there's even still a way Kennedy can become president. And that's if the votes are split. Actually, many projections, if not most, looks as if it's going to be very close. And if they get the same amount and doesn't reach the bar, especially if Kennedy gets 5%,

Then, I forgot the terms and the details around this, but Kennedy speaks about it. So just watch one of his recent interviews or speeches. It will be one state, one vote. And they will have to, neither Kamala nor Trump can then be the president and won't accept each other as president. It can only be Kennedy since he's the third only other option.

who's reached the threshold. And then there will be some kind of unity government with representatives from both parties, which wouldn't be that bad, especially not because there's so many people voting Democrats who have no idea. They're terrified of Trump. They believe fascism will come through him and are blind to the fact that fascism is already happening.

has already come through the corporations which are BlackRock and all those who basically run the Western world today. So yeah, it may be a long shot, but crazier things have happened in America and presidential politics. And if something like that were to happen, I think it would be very good for the country. I think this...

Civil war tendency that we discussed in the show today may be healed from letting Kennedy bring back Camelot with the help of both wings of the US Eagle. But we shouldn't underestimate the machine. They have the media, all the propaganda tools. They have the lawfare. And, you know, they can do anything with impudence because whoever is supposed to monitor the laws, they control.

So that's why they're getting away with murder. And speaking of that, we were also on the money. We were guessing that both Kennedy and Trump would be shot. Now, isn't it interesting that he... Yeah, of course, you remember Trump was shot. But what people don't know is that before that, you know, they denied Kennedy Secret Service protection all the time up to Trump got shot.

He took that for them. Even, you know, they couldn't be so brazen as continue to deny him that after that, because it would look as if they were trying to murder him. And now, since Trump survived, they could not afford any speculation about an inside job, right? So they scrambled and gave him protection. Now, Kennedy himself says it was to bleed his coffers dry.

which they've done through a million ways. So he had no choice. He could never endorse Kamala because she represents the forces that are trying to take him down through lawfare, with the ballots, and many other ways. Look into it, folks. Shanahan speaks of it. Kennedy himself mentioned some of it in his suspension speech. But yeah, like I was saying before,

the attempt on Trump. Kennedy's private security, and maybe, thank God, he actually didn't have Secret Service then, took down a would-be assassin who had dressed up, he seems more professional than in Trump's case, he had dressed up as an agent and were there to assassinate him, but they managed to thwart it before he got to pull off any trigger.

And I forgot what happened to him, but he was treated lightly by the courts. Now, if it had been an attempt on Biden or Kamala, don't you think they would have thrown the book of him? So that's just some of our predictions that proved true. So why do I even care? Well, because as America goes, so goes the rest of the world, especially Europe, because we are

There's been a coup here long ago in most countries. Most of the leaders are on board with the globalist oligarch agenda and half of people are propagandized just like yours and the rest is fighting on. But if they lose power in the US, then we have a chance to replace our leaders too.

So, you have to repeat the original American Revolution in lieu of the French who has been completely crushed. So, we're looking to you and to quote Leonard Cohen, the prophet...

It's coming to America first, the cradle of the best and the worst. It's here they got the range and the machinery for change, and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. It's here the family's broken, and it's here the lonely say that the heart has got to open in a fundamental way. Democracy is coming to the USA.

sail on sail on o mighty ship of state to the shores of need past the reefs of greed through the squalls of hate sail on sail on sail on i'm sentimental if you know what i mean i love the country but i can't stand a scene

Can I have an amen? Now.

I want to say one more thing, and that's that, so I'm not being misunderstood in the episode today, I said that the planets are not beaming us with a ray, and that's how astrology works.

What I try to say is that, because I agree with yourself that it's a physics, but what my point is, is that this cause, this causation to the movements of energy, of atmosphere, if you like, among humans, you know, the atmosphere on earth and the changing atmosphere in heaven are both following a mutual causation, a root causation to both of them, which is, yes, it is physics and it is metaphysics.

And this root cause is behind the movements of man and the movements of the gods, for that matter, which are the stars in heaven. So that's my point. They are parallel and they resonate between each other in a reciprocal interaction now and then.

This correlation, which has a deeper causation, is not a determination because as the old adage says,

The fool is ruled by the stars, but the wise man rules the stars. In other words, we have the ability to liberate ourselves from the common influences. And Kybalion describes that when the pendulum swings, as it inevitably has to, we have to jump and avoid being taken by the deluge of the forces involved.

every time it swings. So that's a symbolic way to express how the wise behave. I won't bore you too much about economic talk in this commentary. I've done it in other episodes and I'll probably do it again after our next installment. But I want to say that I do agree with Joseph about his skepticism to digital money.

is exactly the same as the one I had, which is that you cannot trust anything digital because it is dependent on computers and energy. And, you know, if everything breaks apart like an electromagnetic pulse, that's actually a very good argument.

But short of that, I think Bitcoin is the best option we have today. I'm not discounting bullion and real estate. Those are evergreens. But the third new evergreen is Bitcoin, not crypto and certainly not CBCDs, which is the antithesis of Bitcoin.

So now Joseph was skeptical to that Bitcoin can be hacked. But I think it's just that he is not aware of how the Bitcoin technology works with its blockchain, etc. Because I too thought that. I thought it was like a CIA dream. Everybody come over here with that. Actually, what I thought crypto and Bitcoin was, is what CBCD actually is.

So I educated myself on the technical aspects and I now know that it's not possible for Bitcoin, but it is possible for crypto. That's still trust based. And not only is it hackable in many cases, but it's even, you know, it's super rigable, unlike Bitcoins. And it is also conable, like we saw with the FTX bankman freed scandal, etc. OK, so that's my two cents today.

Thanks for staying with us. I've been your host Al. Thanks to your support. I leave you with this reminder from Kybalion. Everything flows out and in. Everything has its tides. All things rise and fall. Rhythm compensates. Be seeing you.

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