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Investing with Norges Bank Investment Management’s Nicolai Tangen

2022/7/1
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Katie Koch
领导全球顶级资产管理公司,推动多样性和女性经济赋权
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Nicolai Tangen
领导世界最大主权财富基金,应对经济挑战和地缘政治冲突。
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Katie Koch: 本对话的核心围绕着挪威银行投资管理公司(NBIM)及其首席执行官Nicolai Tangen的投资策略、职业生涯以及对市场和经济的展望。NBIM是全球最大的主权财富基金,管理着约1.3万亿美元的资产,相当于全球公共股票市场的1.5%。Koch强调了NBIM肩负的保障挪威当前和未来几代人财务福祉的重大责任,以及Tangen对未来十年投资环境将更加严峻的预测,这将使主动管理策略更具优势。 Nicolai Tangen: Tangen回顾了NBIM的历史,它始于1969年挪威发现石油,旨在保护石油财富,并为子孙后代保存。他阐述了NBIM的投资策略,包括主动管理、负向筛选(排除不良公司)、逆向投资和长期投资。他强调了透明度的重要性,并介绍了他创建的播客“In Good Company”,用于采访NBIM投资公司的CEO,以提高透明度。Tangen认为,未来十年投资环境将更加困难,因为利率较低、股价较高、通货膨胀高涨,以及全球化逆转和地缘政治摩擦加剧。他建议年轻投资者要有耐心,关注逆向投资和市场份额增长型公司。他还讨论了在充满挑战的宏观环境中,优质公司将更有优势,因为它们能够更好地应对挑战并获得市场份额。关于对中国的投资,Tangen表示NBIM不直接投资中国,而是投资于中国公司,并对这些公司进行个案评估。他认为,NBIM现有的四类资产(股票、债券、房地产和可再生能源基础设施)已经足够,目前没有增加其他资产类别的计划。最后,Tangen分享了他对终身学习的热情,以及他如何通过各种方式(例如,在挪威国防学院接受审讯员培训)来提升自己,并将其应用于工作和生活中。 Nicolai Tangen: 我详细阐述了挪威银行投资管理公司(NBIM)的历史使命,以及我们如何通过负责任的投资策略来实现这一使命。我强调了主动管理的重要性,以及我们在负向筛选、逆向投资和长期投资方面的策略。我还谈到了我们对透明度的承诺,以及我们如何通过“In Good Company”播客与利益相关者进行沟通。此外,我还分享了我对未来十年投资环境将更加严峻的看法,并对年轻投资者提出了建议。最后,我谈到了我个人对终身学习的热情,以及我如何将这些知识应用于我的工作和生活中,包括我在挪威国防学院接受的审讯员培训,以及我如何将这些技能应用于与CEO的沟通和团队管理中。我还谈到了我们对多元化的承诺,以及我们如何通过招聘来自不同背景的人才来提高团队的创造力和决策能力。最后,我谈到了我和我的妻子对慈善事业的承诺,以及我们对教育事业的关注。

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What is the mission of Norges Bank Investment Management?

The mission is to secure the financial well-being of current and future Norwegians by managing the sovereign wealth fund, which was established to safeguard Norway's oil wealth for future generations.

How large is the Norges Bank Investment Management fund?

The fund has grown from an initial deposit of $250 million to over $1.3 trillion, making it the largest single investor in the world.

Why did Nicolai Tangen decide to take the helm of Norges Bank Investment Management?

He was inspired by the combination of asset management, organizational development, and contributing to his country's well-being, which aligned with his interests and recent studies in social psychology.

What are Nicolai Tangen's key priorities for managing the fund?

His priorities include improving communication and transparency, focusing on people development, and enhancing performance through negative selection, contrarian investing, and long-term strategies.

Why did Nicolai Tangen start the podcast 'In Good Company'?

He aimed to increase transparency by allowing the Norwegian public and others to hear directly from CEOs of companies in which the fund is invested, showcasing what they own and how these companies operate.

What does Nicolai Tangen expect for the investing environment over the next decade?

He anticipates a more challenging environment with lower returns due to high stock prices, low interest rates, and rising inflation, making it harder to generate profits.

How does Nicolai Tangen view active management in the context of managing a large asset base?

He believes in active ownership and management, using tools like voting and expectation documents to influence company behavior, and running part of the portfolio actively to generate returns.

What advice does Nicolai Tangen have for emerging investors in the current environment?

He advises patience, focusing on contrarian strategies, and investing in market share gainers, as the easy money of the past may not be as accessible in the future.

What role does intellectual curiosity play in Nicolai Tangen's life?

He views learning as the key to happiness and personal growth, having pursued studies in various fields like social psychology, art history, and cooking, which he believes enrich life and improve decision-making.

How does Nicolai Tangen approach recruitment and team development at Norges Bank Investment Management?

He emphasizes putting the individual at the center, ensuring they are in the right role, setting goals, motivating, and trusting them to perform, avoiding micromanagement to foster creativity and happiness.

Shownotes Transcript

How is the leader of the world’s largest sovereign wealth fund navigating slowing economic growth, rising inflation and geopolitical conflicts? In Exchanges at Goldman Sachs: Great Investors, we speak with the world’s most respected investors about their investing strategies, career trajectories and their outlook on markets and the economy. In the latest episode, Nicolai Tangen, Chief Executive Officer of Norges Bank Investment Management, talks with Goldman Sachs’ Katie Koch, Chief Investment Officer of Public Equity in the Asset Management Division, about the fund’s mission, why he expects the investing environment to be more difficult and living life as a “perpetual student.”