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Rising Rates and Falling Stocks 1/13/25

2025/1/13
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Anastasia Amoroso
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Joe Terranova
知名华尔街分析师和投资策略师,现任 Virtus Investment Partners 首席市场策略师。
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Josh Brown
金融分析师和评论家,专注于金融市场趋势和经济预测。
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Rob Sechan
以其在财富管理和替代投资领域的卓越领导和创新精神而闻名的金融行业专家。
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Scott Wapner
主持《Halftime Report》,领导投资委员会讨论市场趋势和投资策略。
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Stephen Weiss
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Scott Wapner: 本期节目讨论了利率上升和股价下跌,以及牛市背景是否已经改变。我们与投资委员会讨论了这个问题,专家们详细介绍了他们最新的投资组合调整。 Josh Brown: 机构投资者大量抛售股票,主要原因是富裕的私人客户为了避免年末的税单而要求提前变现纳斯达克的收益。市场正在进行再平衡,资金从去年表现最佳的科技股流向去年表现最差的能源股等滞后板块。 Joe Terranova: 市场下跌的原因是多方面的,需要综合考虑各种因素,而不是仅仅关注债券收益率的飙升。当前市场下跌既有短期因素(税收调整),也有长期因素(利率上升)。他认为国债市场投机者大量做空,未来可能导致市场反转。当前市场环境极度动荡,不适合进行交易。 Anastasia Amoroso: 市场波动不仅与利率水平有关,更重要的是利率变化的速度和预期变化。利率快速上升会阻碍市场上涨,但市场上涨的潜力并未完全消失。除了税收因素,养老基金等机构投资者也因自身资金状况而抛售股票。当前市场回调为买入机会,尤其是一些人工智能主题股票和地区性银行。 Stephen Weiss: 他建议做空能源股和科技股。他减持比特币,是因为其仓位过大,且认为未来可以更低的价格买入。 Rob Sechan: 他买入亚马逊股票是因为其估值相对历史水平较低,且盈利增长强劲。他买入NRG和高通股票是因为其估值合理,且具有长期增长潜力。他调整投资组合策略,减少盈利增长放缓的股票,增加盈利增长强劲的股票。

Deep Dive

Key Insights

Why are stocks under pressure, particularly the Nasdaq, in the current market?

Stocks are under pressure due to the 10-year Treasury yield hitting 4.8%, its highest level since November 2023. Additionally, institutional investors like pension funds and hedge funds have been net sellers of equities, driven by changes in the Fed's rate cut path and tax-related selling by private clients to avoid significant tax bills.

What is driving the rebalancing between energy and tech stocks?

The rebalancing is driven by tax-related selling in tech, where investors are taking profits after significant gains, and shifting into energy, which was last year's worst-performing sector. Additionally, 86% of S&P 500 energy names are above their 20-day moving average, making them attractive for rebalancing.

What are the key factors influencing the market's reaction to rising interest rates?

The key factors include the rapid rise in the 10-year Treasury yield by over 100 basis points since September, inflation expectations increasing by 50 basis points, and the shift in market expectations from rate cuts to potential rate hikes. These changes have led to a reassessment of the market's bullish outlook.

Why are pension funds selling equities and buying bonds?

Pension funds are selling equities and buying bonds because they are now fully funded or overfunded due to higher bond yields. This reallocation is part of a mechanical adjustment to their portfolios, contributing to the early-year market volatility.

What is the potential impact of tariffs on the market?

Tariffs are seen as inflationary, which can lead to higher bond yields and lower stock prices. While tariffs may create jobs and increase onshore activity in the long term, they introduce short-term pain and uncertainty, prompting investors to sell stocks and seek safer alternatives like bonds.

What is the outlook for AI-related stocks given the current market conditions?

AI-related stocks are trading based on future fundamentals rather than current performance. While they have pulled back from recent highs, the long-term potential remains strong. Investors are advised to look for buying opportunities as the tax-related selling and rate volatility subside.

What are the key drivers behind the success of Bitcoin ETFs in 2024?

The success of Bitcoin ETFs in 2024 is driven by retail enthusiasm and the appeal of the ETF wrapper, which bridges the gap between cryptocurrencies and traditional finance. The category has grown to $113 billion in assets, with BlackRock's iShares Bitcoin Trust leading the way.

What are the reasons behind the recent outperformance of airline stocks?

Airline stocks like United and Delta have outperformed due to strong consumer and business travel demand, despite concerns about rising rates. Their recent results have shown resilience, leading to substantial accumulation and hitting 52-week highs.

What is the fundamental transformation happening at Shake Shack?

Shake Shack is transitioning from proving its concept to scaling its business, with a long-term target of 1,500 units, up from the original IPO target of 500. The company has reported strong Q4 revenues and margins, with adjusted EBITDA up nearly 50% year-over-year, signaling a significant transformation.

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The Investment Committee discusses rising interest rates, falling stock prices, and the market's response. Experts analyze recent portfolio shifts by institutional investors, attributing them to tax loss selling and the changing Fed rate path. The role of wealth management flows and the rebalancing of portfolios are also highlighted.
  • 10-year Treasury yield hit 4.8%, highest since November 2023
  • Institutional investors have been net sellers of equities
  • Significant tax loss selling due to large gains in tech stocks in previous years
  • Rebalancing from tech to sectors like energy is occurring

Shownotes Transcript

Scott Wapner and the Investment Committee discuss rising rates and whether the bullish backdrop has now changed. The experts detail their latest portfolio moves. Josh Brown revisits his best stocks in the market list. 

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