Last Looks: D&D & The King's Daughter (w/ Ike Barinholtz)
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Because it's Last Looks, Last Looks. This is the opening song. Well, after this one, Paul moves on.

What is up, my blue lipstick men and my French mermaids? I'm your host, Paul Scheer, and welcome to a very special, supersized edition of Last Looks. That's right. Today on Last Looks, we are not only going to be talking about Dungeons & Dragons, but also The King's Daughter. We're going to have special guests galore because later in the show, we're going to

We are joined by How Did This Get Made All-Star, Ike Barinholtz. We'll be here. You know him from episodes like Cellular, On the Line, and Bats. He's going to be talking about his brand new improvised comedy podcast called The Chris Chapman Do-Over, which is awesome.

hilarious. Since I've interviewed him, I've listened to two episodes and they are great. Basically, he's a shock jock who is trying to get back from being canceled. It's him, Lisa Gilroy, Neil Casey, some of the funniest people ever. And each week, very special guest stars. It's done by the same team that did Amy Poehler's improvised podcast, Dr. Sheila. So we'll get into that in a little bit. Plus, we're going to reveal next week's movie. But before all that,

A huge shout out to Quinn for that opening theme. Quinn, thank you. That was awesome. I loved it. And we want more songs. If you have a theme for Last Looks, send it to howdidthisgetmadeatearwolf.com, please. But keep them short. Brevity is the soul of wit, and we will all appreciate a 15 to 20 second song. I mean, it's just the way it goes. People.

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Uh, I'm excited. And the audio book is going to be fucking fun too. How did this get made is on the road. We're continuing being on the road for a little bit, February 3rd and 4th. We're going to be in San Diego and San Francisco. Get your tickets there. And we're going to be in Europe from March 28th to April 3rd. We're going to be in London for two nights. We're gonna be in Glasgow. We're going to be in Belfast and Dublin. And man, I got to tell you, London and Dublin, I think we're sold out and all those shows, uh, which is amazing. Uh, Belfast, I'm looking at you.

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Podcasts, so many things we'll be talking to you. Oh, by the way, I might actually include you on the audiobook. We'll get into all that. Okay, let's get into it. During our last two episodes, we talked at length about Dungeons & Dragons and The King's Daughter. We had questions, and we might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set us straight. Fact-check us, if you will. It is now time for Corrections and Omissions.

All right. Thank you, Cool Skull, for that great theme. First up, we will be talking about Dungeons & Dragons, a film that Discord user Graham S. thought should have had the tagline Dungeons & Dragons, D&D by way of Dumb and Dumber.

I like that. I like it a lot. Can I give you a pitch to improve it, Graham? Just D&D, colon, dumb and dumber. That's how I would say it. I mean, I'm stealing your joke. All right, let's go to the Discord. Grumble Bottom writes, I know poor Morgan got overworked for no pay in that D&D episode, and I thank him for his service. As a longtime player and sometime Dungeon Master, I sympathize with him. Go Morgan!

Also, how did that entire episode happen without mentioning that Richard O'Brien, Riff Raff from Rocky Horror, and Mr. Hand from Dark City was the head of the Thieves Guild? And that the Elf King was played by Tom Baker, the fourth Doctor from Doctor Who, who turned down the role of Gandalf in Lord of the Rings. Justice for Riff Raff and the fourth Doctor. Now...

Let me just nerd out on you here. Scott, our amazing producer, and I teamed up here to kind of do some research. Accounts do vary about whether or not Tom Baker was actually offered the role or simply made it to a short list. OK, we're not sure that, you know, I don't want to I don't want to slight anybody who got the part. Either way, Baker said he would have turned down the role because he wasn't willing to leave his wife forever.

for an 18-month shoot in New Zealand. So that's what he got there. Little did he know that he could have brought his wife, potentially, or, I mean, well, who knows? Again, I don't want to judge anybody. I would probably have a hard time leaving anywhere for 18 months as well. That's a long, long time. But why didn't we mention Richard O'Brien and Tom Baker? I don't know. Because it was not that on a list of the most insane things in the movie falls like in the deep 80s.

Anyway, Dungeons and Dragons write some info regarding the conversation about the dwarf's height. Although the producers were looking for someone under five feet to play a very tough dwarf, five foot four actor

Lee Ehrenberg said he told them, I got a few more inches, but a foot more talent than the other short people they were auditioning. And Ehrenberg said he compensated for his taller height by walking with a stoop and spreading his legs wide. Guess what? Didn't work. And I got to say, five foot four, and even at five foot, not really what I think of when I'm thinking about that type of a character who's

Great performance, but I don't think he fooled anyone. But the talent was all there. DrGuts1003 writes, So what exactly is Ridley getting knighted for at the end of the film? He was responsible for bringing the Red Dragons to Ismir, which created more harm than help. Then he opts not to kill Jeremy Irons, leaving that up to Thor Birch to take care of. And if we're saying he's worthy of being knighted simply for going on a journey, then the rest of the crew deserves a similar honor.

Or is this like a Chewbacca situation where only the white guys receive the honor despite the others going on the journey? Boom, slam. You know what, Dr. Guts? I 100% think they tried to copy Star Wars there and they had no reason why. There was no reason given. And maybe it was a badge of dishonor. Maybe it was a dishonorable discharge he was getting. He should have gotten a dishonorable discharge at that point. Biggie writes, as a longtime dungeon master... Oh, wow, we got a lot here. Um...

I've had many players like the snails character at my table. They steal random stuff all the time and mouth off to villains that are much higher level than the characters. All of that is fine, but often leads to hijacking the story and making it all about their characters. I wondered if the absolutely brutal killing of snails in the movie was a nod to those types of problem players. I know I killed a

problem PCs at the table in a similarly brutal fashion so they could come back as another character that might fit the table better. There weren't enough nods to the game in general to make me believe that that is true, but I really wanted Damon Wayans to come back for five minutes after Snail's death in a slightly different costume and inexplicably join the party seamlessly. That would have been really like D&D. Okay.

That's actually a pretty great idea, but I don't really have enough experience to give my take on that. I do have the experience to tell you that it wasn't Damon Wayans in the film. It was Marlon Wayans. You were close in the Wayans world. Yeah.

but not the right way. But anyway, like I said, I'm not a dungeon master. I don't know. Maybe I should call in some help here from a true dungeon master. Morgan, what do you think? Hey, Biggie, you're right not to believe it. The movie doesn't sit close enough to the source material for a deep cut like treating Snails as a problem player to be intentional. Snails didn't even hog the spotlight. As Paul pointed out, Ridley was undeniably the star of the movie, and having a star at all throws any concept of party dynamics out the window.

Jason's guess that Wayne's needed to cut shooting shorts to do Requiem for a Dream seems more likely. But yeah, the beer fest gag of "I'm Snails' brother, Dales, and I want to help you finish what my brother started, also to honor him, call me Snails,"

Boom. Thank you, Morgan. Morgan, work in the phones. We cannot get enough of Morgan. All right, and as we are working the phones...

Let's go to David from New York. - Hey, following crew, this is David here from New York. I don't know if you know this, but James Cameron almost directed this movie. Basically, the producer of the film was a really big fan of Dungeons and Dragons, and he reached out

got a hold of James Cameron. James Cameron came in for a meeting to direct a film, and the head of Wizards of the Coast, who owns Dungeons & Dragons at the time, I think they still own them, I'm not sure. Anyway, the person who was in charge, this woman, I forgot her name, decided to tell James Cameron, why should you direct Dungeons & Dragons? What can you bring to the table that will help us make a good film? Essentially,

acting like he was a nobody. So James Cameron got pissed off, decided that he didn't want to do the movie, with good reason, and the producer couldn't get anybody else, so he decided to direct the movie, which is why it's so horrible. But yeah, the guy behind some of the best films in the 20th century got told by a nobody that he didn't matter. Anyway, so I will let you go. Have a good one, guys. Thanks a bunch.

You know what? Honestly, this is a movie that probably was around forever. And I could see James Cameron actually doing a great version of this movie. According to the LA Times, Francis Ford Coppola and Rennie Harlan were also attached to direct at certain times, but deals fell through. We might even talked about that on the show. I think it's one of those

where everybody has a meeting on it. I remember a couple of years ago, everybody I knew had a meeting about doing like the M&M's movie, you know, like how they have those M&M's before, like, you know, like the funny M&M's. Like, you know, sometimes like, were you attached? Were you interested? Well, who knows? You were there, you did something. I would have loved to seen any of those people direct this film, but clearly it wasn't going to happen. These people, these producers pissed everybody

Let's hear from Jackie in Brooklyn. Jackie, what do you got? Hi, Paul. I was at the show in Philly. During the episode, you guys used the word sector, which is a great word and is the word that I wish they used in the movie. But they used the word rector.

throughout the movie to talk about the rods that they were holding, needed to find, all of that. And I guess this is really a question for Morgan, but I was curious if that is a Dungeons and Dragons term or if that is just something that they use in the movie because it's for kids and it would be easier to understand. But anyway...

But anyways, that's it. Thanks so much. Happy New Year. And I'll just give a shout out to my friends, Maria and Kevin, and their new son, Miles, that I went to the show with, who was just born on New Year's Eve. All right. Thanks so much. Bye. All right. A rod, scepter. Again, I don't know the answer. I have to throw it to my dungeon master, Morgan. Is it a rod? Is it a scepter?

Hi Jackie, good guess. Rod is in fact a classification of magic items in D&D which scepters would fall under. Iconic examples include the Rod of Rulership, Rod of Wonder, and the Immovable Rod. But the iconic item to control dragons is actually an orb of dragonkind. No idea why the movie decided to use a rod instead. They could have just made the orb on the end of the rod and called it a day. Maybe they had a leftover prop from another movie and had run out of money.

Thank you, Morgan. Setting the record straight once again. And finally, Morgan from Philly. What do you got to say? Hey, Morgan here. And I have a few corrections and omissions of my own.

Jason mentioned how Marina barely uses her magic, even when it would be super helpful. This is one of the few D&D things the movie got right, albeit perhaps unintentionally. Paul quipped about her being in her first year of wizard school, so she only knew one spell. But Paul was right on the money here. Wizards learn more spells as they level up.

Not only that, but mages in D&D can only use their spells a finite number of times. A first-level wizard before this movie was released could only cast one spell per day. Then they had to resort to using a crossbow until they got a good night's sleep. Later editions of the game gave mages weaker spells that could be cast over and over again. But to this day, stronger effects like opening portals or zapping a whole crowd with lightning are still finite resources which mages have to judiciously manage. Okay, wow.

All right. I am surprised that is accurate. Well, I guess, you know, maybe it's not great for a film. You know, it's like, oh, Schwarzenegger in this is a robot Terminator. But in this movie, he doesn't kill.

I don't agree with it. I agree with what you're saying, but I disagree with it. Anyway, so many great D&D corrections and omissions. Thank you to Morgan for jumping in here and answering all of these questions. And you know what? Morgan was such a true, a great sport this entire time. People loved him. There were so many overwhelming comments about him. And I just wanted to give Morgan a chance to

to say thank you to all of you who supported him. Hey, how did this get made fam Morgan here? It was an honor to rep my fellow Philly nerds at the show. Hearing 1800 people chanting my name on a stage I've seen Neil Gaiman speak on was one of the wildest experiences of my life. Since then, I've been telling the story to anyone who would listen as I eagerly await the episode drop. And I've also been DMing four campaigns and playing in three others.

I'm not really on social media, but friends have been showing me the lovely posts y'all made across different platforms. Seeing everyone's support has been incredibly flattering. And if you're not sick of me, some fellow audience members interviewed me for their podcast, Trip B.,

You can check that out. I've also been lurking on the HowDidThisGetMade subreddit and was considering doing an AMA there. Throw some posts up if you'd be interested in that. Thanks again to Paul, Jason, and June for letting me hold the mic and to Philly for giving me one of the best nights of my life. Thank you, Morgan. And we'll be right back after a quick few words from our sponsors.

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Welcome back. That is enough of Dungeons and Dragons. Now it is time to get into corrections and omissions from The King's Daughter, a movie that Discord user Pawn Paloma thinks could have had the tagline, The King's Daughter, my so-called mermaid. Yes, I love it. So-called life reference. I'm into it. Let's go back to the Discord. John, not Connor, writes, the gang pointed out several instances where

on how cheap and thrown together this movie seemed. One more example is that when the quartet is supposed to play the special mermaid dissecting requiem, Marie destroys their instruments to sabotage the ritual. Or so we're told. Because as soon as Marie busts in on them, we smash cut to the next scene and we never see her destroy the instruments. Clearly,

The instruments were rentals. Boom! Wonderful, I. You are 100% correct. But didn't she smash up some instruments earlier, too? Like when the king...

was listening to music. I feel like they had one set to smash and they couldn't do it again. I forgot this movie because it feels like that was recorded like last summer. Sean McBee writes, just to expand on Paul's point about Versailles being far from the water, I looked it up and it is roughly 115 miles to the nearest coastline, which is the English Channel. So here's some math.

In the absolute best circumstance, a horse can ride about 100 miles a day, though typically it's 20 to 35 miles. A solar eclipse from start to finish lasts about two and a half hours.

with totality lasting seven and a half minutes at most all this to say is that the idea of getting from versailles to the shore during the course of the eclipse is just about impossible in a car and no stretching of credulity

makes it feasible in this film. Thank you, Sean, for doing the math. I also like how much leverage you gave a horse from 25 miles a day to 100. I feel like you really are being paid by big horse. Okay, Rocket Wesker writes, the movie did give an explanation for why the heroine can breathe underwater. One of the mermaid's powers is that if one swims close enough to the mermaid, then that person is able to breathe underwater too. Yes, I think we knew that.

But this is also why Captain Jack Boring was able to escape for Psy with the mermaid through the water. If I recall correctly, the heroine also told the king about this and listed it as one of the reasons why the mermaid should be considered sentient. All right. So, but are you saying that you could force the mermaid to give you that power? Because it feels like the mermaid grants it. You just can't take it. Anyway, I don't remember that part of the movie.

or even our issue with it. So all I'm going to say is, yeah, you're right. Let's go back to the phones. We got Eric. What do you got, Eric? This is Eric. I'm a history teacher, and I wanted to say a couple of things about the king's daughter. First of all, I don't know. If you look up Louis XIV, there's a very famous painting of him. It's the one at the top of the Wikipedia page where he...

has like an outstretched arm and he's holding his step there. And Pierce Brosnan on quite a few occasions of this movie, basically like hits that pose. He does the exact same thing. And it was, I don't know, to me who like has shown the painting and my glass and all that stuff, it just looks really weird. Like,

He didn't really do any research. He just, like, looked at the picture and was like, okay, yeah, yeah, I got it. Anyways, thanks. Oh, my God. You know what, Scott, our amazing producer, he actually found that portrait and several screen grabs from the film. We'll put this on our social media here. But,

You're right. Yes. He's just straight up stealing that post. You know, some people, it starts through a physicalization. That's where the acting becomes. Some people put on a costume and they become the character. Pierce Brosnan was like, give me a scepter or a rod. Again, I don't want to get into that debate. And I'll be this guy. I mean, it clearly, this is what I have an issue with. Clearly, Louis XIV was posing for a picture. Pierce Brosnan decided that his Louis XIV would always be posing for a picture.

Oh, my God. This is amazing. You have to see his pictures. And now let's go to Andrew from New Jersey. Hi, Paul. I just listened to The King's Daughter. And I got to say, I was looking into the book, The Moon and the Sun, that it's based off of. Because I thought, oh, it's based off books. That's interesting. And then to tie things to some of your background or fandom...

The author, Vonda McIntyre, actually wrote several novelizations of Star Trek movies, including Wrath of Khan, Star Trek III, The Search for Spock, and Star Trek IV, The Voyage Home, which has been discussed on the show before. And I just thought you would think that that was interesting. Thanks so much.

Hey, I love it. I love a Star Trek novelization. I've read many Star Trek movie novelizations. As a matter of fact, I have a whole book shelf full of movie novelizations, the lost art that I wish would come back. Well, way to go. I feel like we should not be judging this movie on the book.

Right? Vonda and McIntyre shouldn't take any shrapnel from what happened here in this film. I would like to go read some of her Star Trek movie novelizations and relive all my favorite moments from Trek. Anyway, great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one winner. I have to tell you, this is hard to do, but I think I'm giving the winner out of all the calls...

Eric. That's right, Eric. You finding out that Pierce Brosnan made his entire character choice based off a painting truly is the most mind-blowing thing that I've heard on this show in quite some time. And you know what? Because of that, you are going to get an amazing song from our friend Casey Campbell. Hit it, Casey. You were the best, so pat yourself on the back.

Okay. If you want to submit an alt movie tagline or chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up the discord at discord.gg slash HDTGM or call us at 619-Paul-Ask. Coming up, Jason and I are going to be joined by Ike Barinholtz to chat about his hilarious new podcast, The Chris Chapman Do-Over, and so much more. Plus,

As always, I will reveal next week's movie. But first, get ready, because we got a bonus scene from our King's Daughter show. Take a listen. Sir, what's your name? What's your question? Jim, and my question is, who do you think did the Free Willy escape better? Willy the Killer Whale or the Mermaid?

Escaping over the wall of the grotto. Holding the guy she's carrying, Captain Jack Boring, in her arms. Well, yeah, why could she escape at that moment? Again, this is where, when I watch a movie like this, it makes me dumber. But I'm like...

Is there a reason why that was a moment where she could escape? I felt like maybe something happened with the wheel that they did. I don't know, Paul. Yeah, the wheel was a part of it. He came up on that wheel. That was spooky. Really spooky. That's when I realized, I was like, these guys look too much alike. Because I was like, who is that? Is that the boyfriend or is that the evil guy? It was also, the wheel was moving so slowly.

He had so much time to get off of it. And she has so... You watch her work out every single detail of... And he's like... And she's like... This goes on for so long. In a movie in which every scene is 15 to 30 seconds long itself. They are cutting scenes mid-sentence from people. It's so not working.

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Hey, everybody. I think you probably all have noticed this, but every Monday we re-release old episodes online in the stream. We don't have a vault right now, so that's the best way we can combat this. And we are putting some fun ones out for re-release. This week's Matinee Monday was Freejack with Sinclair and Phoebe Robinson. And next week will be the Jean-Claude Van Damme classic Street Fighter with John Gallagher.

Gemberling. So keep on checking out these replays. Okay, now it is time to welcome to the stage, the podcast, to the recording. How did this get made, All-Star?

A true Statham maniac. We're going to talk about the beekeeper. Oh, you know it. Tom McWaters, play us in as we meet Ike Barinholtz. We're going to have ourselves a conversation. Just chat. No quarantine or vaccination. Just chat. Paul and Jason, a couple of cats. Just chat. Just chat. Just chat. Shoo-bee-doo-ba.

First of all, Ike, I'm excited that you're here. We'll just jump right in and say, do you know the premise of the new Jason Statham movie, The Beekeeper? The Beekeeper, I do. He is just, he's just a simple, humble beekeeper. Former assassin. Former assassin. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry to tell you that I have read the script for Beekeeper. Whoa.

How did you get your little hands on that thing? Oh, I got my mitts on that script. I got my mitts on that script and it's a blast. There was someone in the trailer that I was like, oh man, that's a Manzoukas part. They're like, cause basically he's friends with Felicia Rashad, Jason Statham, an older woman that he takes care of her bees. And then she gets like internet phished.

And then commits suicide. And he goes off to, like, avenge her death. This was Paddy Chayefsky's last script, right? Yes. He wrote Network and then this. This was based on a Dalton Trumbo idea. I just saw today that there's some rumors going around that, like, there's apparently a twist in the movie that was based on Hunter Biden and Joe Biden. What?

And they're like, and the filmmakers are like, no, no, that is not true. No, this scene where there's an old confused man and his son with his dick out, that's not based on that. It's two different guys. But,

But so the, so there is this, uh, this thing with the beekeeper where, uh, like, you know, she's being internet fished, uh, scammed and like, they cut to like the guy doing it. And like, he's in a room of like all these people like dressed super fashionable. Like they all went to Zara and they're all on computers and he's in the center on a headpiece. And like, he gets her, you know, bank information. He's like, yeah. Oh,

Like Wolf of Wall Street? Yes. As opposed to just a massive call center in Bangalore. Yeah. I just love that it was like super, like they tried to make it like real sexy. What's going on here? Oh, yeah. No, it's going to be, I cannot wait to see it.

The reviews are great. The reviews are literally like... Oh, they're good reviews? Oh, great reviews. Because I was going to say, I can't wait to be doing How Did This Get Made live in 2045 for the beer. We'll do it. Maybe we'll do it, but it is a lot more, at least when I read it, I was like, oh, this feels a lot more like it wants to be playing in the John Wick universe.

Like, style versus like a Chev Chelios, a crank Jason Statham. From what I understand, though, it's still like really fun and super crazy, right? Well, yes. I mean, quite a lot of his...

uh assassin skills i think i'm allowed to say because having having read it are because are using explosive honey and other what b other b related things well you know js is probably still very like in mesh in the b like he's probably on set at his new movie right now being like oh so you're putting honey in your tea eh you know where that honey comes from a bloody fucking b

It comes from a bloody fucking bee. Did you know that? And you know what? Once the queen dives, the hive is lost completely. I'd like to have you come down and check out my apiary. Have you seen my apiary? Just give me one second. I'm going to put on this yellow jacket. I got it at free and easy at Highland Park. Common misconception, wasps and bees, very different.

Wasps and hornets are nasty, but bees are actually peaceful. But bad news for you, I'm not a bloody bee. We gotta do it. We gotta do it. We gotta do that. We have to do our idea of the podcast that is just the three Stathams. Yes. I'm all in. I'm all in for it. I'm loving it. The whole thing is all we want to do is get a chance to interview Jason Statham. That's the goal. Which I think is on the table. At one point, I feel like

I had heard he was interested, like he,

He was amused by our fascination by it. Oh, really? Yes. That's incredible. I hope he understands it is nothing but legit fan worship. I think he is the coolest man who's ever fucking lived. This is not like, oh, Steven Seagal. And like an Olympic diver. He just says, he's doing it all. Model doing it all. The guy, he's got the goods. I love it. I'm obsessed. And we need those. We need...

We need a movie called The Beekeeper. Like, we need this. Our culture needs it. And the extended beekeeper universe when we get there. Absolutely. EBKU? Yes. By the way, speaking of extended universes, Ike, you are now...

in an extended universe. I'm in a Marvel movie. I'm in it. I did a Marvel movie. Sorry. Sorry. Marvelous Miss Maisel movie. Oh, wait. I'm playing Steve Allen in season six. Very excited. Breaking news. I was, I think that's the crossover. That's the crossover I want. Marvel's Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. So you have, it's, it's the Marvels. You get all three of the ladies and, and then Miss Maisel's there. So,

So you got Captain Marvel shooting lasers and then Miss Maisel's like, I'm not a superhero. I'm pretty good here. But got to remember, she's also Lois Lane, isn't she? Isn't isn't isn't Brosnahan our newest Lois Lane? Is that true? OK, in in Gunn's movie, in James Gunn's movie. I know that I was working on. That might be wrong. Maybe I'm maybe you're right.

I auditioned for Superman. I haven't heard back yet. So I'm still, yeah, me too. We should check it. We should follow up on that. Yeah. I can't imagine a world where I didn't book that, but like, we'll find out. I mean, we'll see. I, uh, my audition for Superman, uh, my character was shirtless and I, and, uh, and I did that, uh, shirtless and June's like, you, you put the shirt on. And I was like, yeah, I didn't take fun take for mine. I was, uh, I did my audition. It was like Superman, but what if he's kind of dealing with a bout of acid reflux? Yeah.

Yeah. Like imagine if Superman ate a really big dinner the night before and he's just like a little bit of mild burping during the. Yeah. I did my nude. I did my nude because I assumed that the suit was CG. Yeah.

I assumed the suit was VFX and I'm like, they're going to put it on me. They're going to do, they're going to do that themselves. For the audition. They did that for the audition so they could see how you'd look in the movie. I'm like, listen, I got to, I have to show them the, the, the,

the canvas that they're going to be painting. Of course. I mean, that's, that's the whole thing. It's like, and I, you know, I do all that kind of work. And I, I, I got into an extreme regimen that I, for the audition, you know, and I gained a lot of, I gained a lot of weight. I just drank the protein powders. I didn't actually do the workout. And I found out that that made me very bloated. I just like James, the idea of James Gunn looking at a board that has like a one picture of like,

the kid from the bear, like one picture of like, um, Jacob, the Lord, Jacob, the Lord, and then just the nude man. She's just like, which way do I go? All right. All right. This is interesting. I like this, you know, look, I'm open to interesting ideas. Um, I,

I worked on this movie where one of the actors is now in Superman. But between he was working on a movie, the strike happened, and then they came back. He got Superman in between, right? Wow. Some version of it. So anyway, the movie was shut down for weeks and weeks because of the strike. And he came back to set just after.

jacked to the max. And we were like, oh, this isn't going to match the rest of the movie where you were not. Well, his one arm was jacked from holding a sign all day. I think they got to throw him in sweatshirts for the rest of the movie. Oh, that's hilarious. Oh, my God. We got to get jacked. Guys, we've got to get jacked. I talked to someone years ago. I think it was Mark Duplass. We talked about like

We don't want to go crazy, but what if like six or seven of us just shared like low doses of HGH with each other? Just a little bit. Yeah. Like the syringe comes, I shoot it, I run it over. We're sharing needles? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, hold on. We're all safe. You use an alcohol pad to clean it off, yeah.

Yeah. You clean it off. You wipe it off the, not Jason real quick. You don't just wipe off your arm. You wipe off the needle. Hello. Yeah. I shoot a little bit. I drive over to your place. Paul takes a shot. He drives it over to your place and then so on and so on. And then we'll all feel a little tiny bit. That's all I'm looking. This is going to go perfectly with my, I'm also creating a new form of ayahuasca. I'm calling a sure. And it's going to be tiny. Uh,

And it just a little dabble, do you? You know, and this is like... You just have a little bit of diarrhea for three hours. My thing is, I don't like that ayahuasca right now as it exists is for everybody. I want to do it just with my bros and I want to do guy-ahuasca. And it's just...

It's just a bros weekend where we do the sacred herb and we just go nuts, but just with the guys. That's what we need. See, I actually, the real shit is if you can get in and you can go to Korea and you can do Gangnam Style with Sai Awaska. Wow. Such a long walk. No, it's not actually. It's a short walk. It's a short, lovely walk. Yeah.

And Saga Waska is what they're doing in Korea. That's what I've heard. Oh, my God. So the extended universe I was talking about that you are in is this. I don't even know what they're even calling it, technically. But Amy Poehler. A podcast. But Amy Poehler has this world that she's creating. She's doing these, like, improvised comedy podcasts. And she started off with this one called Say More with Dr. Sheila.

And Jason and I were both on that. You were on that and you were hilarious on that. Thank you. As were you, John. And you have now spun this off and now you have your own

You have your own podcast. You're doing your own thing. That character has his own podcast. Yes. Sorry. The doctor, and I think it's actually, there's a question mark. Oh, yeah. Doctor? Sheila, because she's not really a doctor. Right. But the last one of her series, she interviews Chris Chapman, who I play, who was a former...

podcast star, I would say. Got it. Went through a little mild cancellation like we all have. Sure. Actually, Jason, you're getting canceled next week, I read.

Oh, is that right? It's going to be really weird. I'm pretty excited. A lot of animals involved. Yes. Crazy. The tracking, the tracking is looking good. Tracking's looking good. I have you in my fantasy canceled roster of actors you think are going to get canceled in the next year. But he's a guy who kind of went through that and he was, he was for the boys. He was a guy, you know what I mean? His show was for the boys.

And he's kind of coming back and he's gotten a new podcast, but it is it's contingent on him getting at least 1% female listeners. And so to do that, the podcast company has paired him up with a female co-host who's

Person named Frankie played by Lisa Gilroy, who you guys know. Who's the best. Just like such a star, I think. Huge. Just literally one of the funniest people. She plays with us in Dinosaur Bunch. She's on Jury Duty and she's on this brand new. Well, I don't even know if I can talk about that yet, but she's on a brand new cool show on FX that's going to be coming out soon. She's amazing. And then I also brought with me my old sidekick from.

My old podcast, The Professor, who's played by our friend Neil Casey, who is... Truly one of the great comedic geniuses of our time. Not an understatement. No, one of the funniest guys, and he is the professor, right? He's the professor.

Now, is this kind of like, I am, I grew up with Howard Stern. I love Howard Stern. Like, is this more Bubba the love sponge or this a little bit more like the, like, or is this more of a, what world are we living in? Joe Rogan? It's really done. I miss, uh, you know, I'm not a Howard Stern guy. I was an I miss guy my whole life. How you doing there boy? I don't know. Uh,

No, this guy is he's a little bit post a lot of those guys. This guy was influenced by some of the great dumb podcasters that we all know and love who have zero expertise and incredibly uninformed opinions based off of horrible data.

He was one of those guys. He was one of those guys who early adapted to a podcast, probably. Are you doing a lot of research for this? Are you going deep? Because I imagine, I know that you've got to play a character, you've got to improvise within this character. Are you just...

Are you like just going deep into like archives of podcasters and just taking it all in? It's basically like a member in the miniseries Chernobyl where they're like, you have to get off the roof within 37 seconds or you'll have like I've basically been on that roof for like three years now. Just like listening to every just consuming. Yeah. And they're getting dumber and dumber and their derivatives of derivatives now. And I listen to a lot of them.

So yeah, I've exposed myself to some pretty toxic stuff. Are there things that you're like on your show? Do you get excited to do a...

Because I'm assuming, do your episodes have a theme or a topic? Yes. Is each episode like, so are there things that you're like, oh, when in this, in my version, I'm going to come at this this way. Or this is a, I want to play in this space completely, whether it's vaccines or whatever, only eating meat that you've killed or whatever. Every episode has a guest that we will be interviewing. And that guest has something.

some kind of expertise, some kind of specialty. And by the way, your guests are amazing. It's like Armisen, Ashton Nicole Black, Sinclair, Ego, Busy Phillips, Alex Stanley Jr. Craig Kachowski fights. Kaki. Kaki. It's just, it was a ridiculous group of friends we got to come and play. And exactly to your point, Zooks, like,

It was really a fun opportunity for me to just kind of be like, what was the dumbest guy I know who is trying to sound smart and trying to appear to be like, you know, all knowledgeable? What would he what would his reaction be to that? And, you know, again, you have Lisa and Neil you're bouncing off of. It's totally improvised. Like, it's all totally made up. And it was it was the most fun.

It was the most fun I think I've had performing this year. Just because we never... Whenever we do... Like when I do Dinosaur with you guys, it's like it could not be more fun. But all those scenes are...

pretty short, three minutes or less. And this, to be able to sit in a studio and get to really go deep and record for 45 minutes, an hour with someone, you don't get to do that a lot when you improvise. So when Amy first brought this to me, it was like, this is a chance for us to improvise and just have fun without having to be on stage and just move fast. It was irresistible. I loved it because of that reason, the Amy show, because

you just committed to a character and you just let it go. And like, people don't have the patience for that on stage often. Like you have to be in the right mindset, right. To, to even see that. And so this is amazing. You know, that's real special. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the same. Like when St. Clair and I did the show with Amy, you know, it was literally, it felt like jumping back in time, you know, to like a point where it was just, we were doing stuff together that was just making us laugh, you know, that was really exploring and about discovery and making surprise discoveries and stuff like that. And, and in doing so finding real,

Real silly, funny stuff that was genuinely delightful that you wouldn't have found in a two minute quick improv scene or whatever, you know. So I think on a process level, this is dynamite. Yeah, it was. Thank you. It was it was just it was so much fun. And it did give you the vibe of like.

you know, improv's changed so much now, you know, you get like a, like big shows like dinosaur or whatever, but you used to have dozens of shows. And oh yeah, you find yourself in a show with someone who's like, Hey, you want to do a two person improv show tonight and we'll play the same. And you, and you never get to do that anymore. So to get that chance again was just, just so much fun. Now, Paul, I will say, Paul, you read the list of guest stars on the podcast and I don't think you read your name or my name. Let me look at your game. Let me see. Um,

So I'm just checking my notes here for questions that I had for you, Ike. And the question I have is, what the fuck, bro? Yeah, okay. No, no, no, no, no. I knew this was going to come up, boys. All right, all right. I knew this was going to come up. And basically what it was, we had a talk. We talked budget. And as you guys are very well aware of your quote for doing a guest spot on a podcast, we're talking foreclosure.

$47,000. Yeah. I mean, that's a lot. We've been in the podcast game for 13 years. And respect to you, I'm not saying you're not worth it. I'm not saying you're not worth it. Thank you for not saying that. What are you saying? I'm saying for the amount of money we were given to produce this podcast, we could not...

You sign off and being like, yeah, it is expensive. Yes. Because then we would be left with six grand. How do I cover my transportation? Right. Hair and makeup. My glam. Now, you do know that you don't need to do that. Well, OK. Again, I don't want to audio format. Yeah, it is an audio format, but we're taking stills the whole time. We're popping stills. OK. You know, there's going to be a cover. There needs to be cover art. I also, as I know you guys have heard of this, I am not my funniest if I don't look my hottest.

And that's, and that is something I feel like people don't talk about. Men don't talk about that that much. So yeah, they don't, they don't. So it was strictly budget thing. But from what I'm hearing, if we hit the numbers, we think we're going to hit season, season two. We're talking, we're talking, we get like five, 6 million bucks an episode.

In which case, I pay your quotes. I pay your family's quotes. I send, I, we've got transpo for you. We got snacks. We got the whole thing, but it just, we have to do it this way at first. I understand. I understand. So we should probably say, Paul, that we should encourage our audience to start listening at season two. Yes. Well, no, no, no, no.

The only thing is if they don't listen now, we're not going to get to a season two if we don't have your guys' fans. I see. I see. If you want to be on the show, please plug the show is what I'm saying. Or do it like this. Subscribe to the show now. Let the episodes download. Don't listen. No, no. You got to listen. You do need to listen, but turn down the volume. Okay.

listen to the whole thing. Cause they need to have the completion rate to make sure that you're listening for us for the, how did this get made boys? Then season two is where you want to start pumping up that volume. Yeah. Well, that is interesting. Um, can I tell you that I, when I first came out to LA, I just want to talk about like these guys for a second, because when I came out to LA, uh,

Tom Likas was... Oh, my God. It was before Howard Stern had kind of gone on to Sirius. So, you know, like, if you missed Stern in the morning, you wouldn't get him later. And I listened to Tom Likas, and what I always loved about Tom Likas was, like, how much he loved wine. Like, you know, he'd be talking about... He'd be telling you, in one side of his mouth, he'd be like, this is how you get your girlfriend to have a makeshift abortion. And then he'd talk about the fine wine that he had last night at dinner. And...

All right. Well, so last night I had a beautiful silver oak cabernet at Morton's. Now we're going to do titty titty Tuesday. Hawk your horn. Ladies, if a man hawks his horn at you, you have to show up your breath. Hey, Tom, can you can you give me a bong hit? And they would always like. Hey, Tom. Hey, Tom. What's up, man? I'm in Alhambra. I'm about to be arrested for murder. Can you blow me up real quick? I.

I cannot recommend James Adomian's Tom Likas impression. I made him do it for me so many times. I did a comedy bang bang episode, actually with Amy Poehler, myself, and Likas. It is one of the funniest things I have ever heard in my life. He is so disgusting with Poehler. He's like, I bet you want to have sex with this, don't you? And she's like, uh, no. He's like, I bet you do, dear. Laughter

It is one of the hard... I've never laughed so hard during a show I was on. I have sent that clip to so many people. It is, yeah. Because who the fuck does Tom Likas? Oh, yeah. Well, that's, I mean, that's the...

brilliance of a Dolman. Who's doing a Huell Houser? I mean, maybe it should be, like, Laika should come on your show. I feel like that's what we're kind of, maybe tease that as a... 1-800-1-900- blow me up, Tom.

I don't know if you remember, this may be, I may be talking way inside baseball, but you know, when, uh, Aspen comedy festival, that was a thing that like would happen that HBO would put on people will come, they would do their shows, get all these great comedy shows, uh, from all over the country, primarily LA, Chicago, New York. And, they would do their shows there. And Tom Likas, uh,

was always set up in the lobby of the main hotel of the Aspen Comedy Festival doing that show. Like, you know, so he was, you know, he's wearing a big dark sunglasses all in black. And I just remember like just walking by him. I didn't know who this guy was. Uh,

but to just know that he somehow weaseled his way into that festival, just to be in the lobby, loud-ass lobby, and he wasn't even getting people. He was just doing his show. It was sort of like, I'm here. I'm also at the comedy festival. Give it up. Give it up.

Oh my God. He was, he was great. Great guy. Podcast is the Chris Chapman do over. It's available wherever you get your podcasts episodes come out weekly through March 14th. And if you've not even, if you don't even know what we're talking about with, with Amy's podcast,

Same war with Dr. Sheila. You could listen to that as well. They it all goes together. It's they really are. These are great, funny shows with hilariously funny people. I mean, this when I knew that you, Neil and Lisa were doing a show together like this is this is it downloading it. Oh, and that it's characters I love that it's like that it's you know, that it is a sketch type improv type characters. I love that. And thanks again for taking down these libtards, man.

Let me tell you something, man. Yeah, man. Thanks for serving these guys. You know what I am? I realized a long time ago, I'm a shepherd, not a sheeple. Yeah.

And I don't play their game. They're going to play my game. So smart. I can promise you it's the dumbest way to spend like 40 minutes on a Saturday. Are you going for a stupid hike? Are you going to fold some dumb laundry? Are you going to go for an idiotic bike ride? About to get on a subway, you moron. I got to tell you, our audience, they love you. They're in. They're downloading. They're listening. It's going to be great.

It's going to be great. And season two, Jason Mantzouk is Paul Scheer on season two, first episode. Wow. This is going to be exciting. Also going to go ahead and pre-plug. How did this get made? Featuring Jason Statham, the beekeeper. We will get that live at the world turn, live at the world turn, April, 2025. Oh my God. What have we, what have we invited him? And he's like, yeah, I would, I would love to go. And we're there and we're doing our bits. And just like halfway through, he just beats the shit out of us.

Well, by the way, I would love it. I would love it. I mean, I'm going to like, I will say that we've had that experience when we invited vanilla ice on the podcast and, uh,

He didn't really understand why he was on the podcast. At least thought we were all on the same page. So understand you want to talk to me about my life and my career. Yeah, yeah. Hey, remember this fucking shit scene you were in? Oh, man. Oh, God. You guys are the greatest. Love you, boys. Thank you so much. Love you, Ike.

Well, thank you, Ike, for chatting with us. You can listen to the Chris Chapman Do-Over wherever you get your podcasts. And if you want to hear more of Ike on how did this get made, his episodes are Cellular and Bats, and those came out in September and October. So just scroll back to find them. Or just...

search cellular and bats. I think that's the way podcast engines work. Anyway, next week's movie. Now that we got the King's daughter out of the way, let's talk about what we're doing next week. That's right. We're going from a swimming mermaid in a bay to rollerblading LL Cool J. I love that rhyme. Next week, we are watching the 2002 sci-fi sports film,

Here's a short breakdown of the plot. Jonathan is the most popular player in the fastest and most extreme sport of all time, rollerball. But things go wrong for Jonathan and his teammates when they realize that rollerball's creator...

more on-court accidents for higher ratings. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a whopping 3% score on the Tomatometer. And Mark Rather of the Seattle Times writes, they should have called it Gutterball. Ooh, Mark, slam! Anyway, let's take a listen to the trailer. You think you can play? What's it gonna be? Us or them? They're going to kill you! Try to play!

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