Last Looks: Hypnotic & Sleepover
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movies and gonna talk about them here on the show by the way i don't get all the talk about the barbie heimer like i get it in a general sense but i feel like we don't have that much to talk about that we're so excited or weird out about how to watch these movies we have such an allegiance to both things here is a clip i want to play for you of tom cruise being asked this question on a

for his own movie. Which movie he was going to see first. Everyone's buying tickets for their own movies. I know we want to save movie theaters, but truly, it's gone out of hand. Listen to Tom Cruise have a little bit of a meltdown. Are you going to watch Barbie or Oppenheimer first? Oh, yeah. No. If you had to choose one, because there's a bit of a debate. No, what's great is you're going to see both on the weekend. I think it's like...

I haven't quite decided. It'll probably be Oppenheimer first and then Barbie, I think. I think it's like you want... Oppenheimer's going to be on a Friday. Do you know what I mean? And then you can go...

I'll probably see it in the afternoon. You want that packed audience. And then I want to see Barbie right afterwards with a packed audience. So Friday is like, you know, I used to plan my days where you start out early in the morning and you go to movies all day. And I like doing that, you know, and I'd go from one cinema to the next and I'm going to do that. So I'm going to see them both.

post-opening day. I think that's good advice. I feel like in that clip, Tom Cruise was trying to say, oh, I want to see Oppenheimer first because it's going to bum me out and then Barbie's going to lift me up. But I feel like he caught himself in the middle of that and then tried to basically say he was going to watch one with his right eye and one with his left eye simultaneously. Anyway,

I don't mean to take any shots on the great cinema choices that we have, even though we are on strike right now. That's right, writers, actors, we are on strike. And we may have some changes to the show, but nothing that you probably will notice. So I probably shouldn't even have mentioned it. But if we are talking about changes, there's a big one that just happened. It has nothing to do with anything I just talked about. Um...

Stitcher Premium is gone. It's done. And it's a shock to me as much as it probably is to you. A lot of people have been asking, well, what do I do? I will pay for your back catalog. And I'm just going to say, we don't know what we're going to do yet. What we are planning on doing is opening up

a lot more episodes that are available right now. We're still going to do our Matinee Mondays, and we want you to voice what episodes you want to hear in those Matinee Mondays. We're not going to pull out the entire catalog just yet. We have to figure out a plan. We were caught, and now we're going to figure it out. I don't know what we're going to do, but when I do, I will tell you what the plan is. Now,

Enough about that. Besides talking about hypnotic and sleepover, we also are going to go deep because Jason, June and I, we took a weekend together. We didn't go on tour. We didn't do anything, but we all went deep.

Up to see Joni Mitchell in her first ticketed event in over 20 years. It was magical. Jason and I will talk about that amazing weekend. And we're going to talk about next week's movie. Plus, we have an exclusive bonus scene, which we will play at the end of the episode. But first things first, a big shout out to Andy Jacob for that amazing theme song. Thank you, Andy. We love you.

If you have a last looks theme song, send it to how did this get made at earwolf.com. But keep them short. 15, 20 seconds. Live in that world. Brevity. Soul of wit. Anyway, just a heads up. We are going on tour. New Jersey, I'm looking at you. We added that date late. We're going to be in Red Bank, New Jersey. Tell your friends. Tell your family. We might even have a very special guest. If what I'm working on comes through, oh boy.

you're not gonna want to miss it we also have a special guest on our first night in boston and i'm going to say this person is a how did this get made all-star so every night is a great night limited tickets are available i think that we're almost at 97 at every theater so so close to selling out but there are still just a few seats left every

everywhere. But New Jersey, I'm looking at you. Red Bank, get the word out. Tell your friends. Come on, people. You're down at the Jersey Shore. Come go see how did this get made. They're a bunch of good kids. Anyway, let's get into it. During our last two episodes, we talked at length about hypnotic and sleepover. We had questions, and we might have even missed a few things. Here's your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. Hit the theme!

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Corrections and omissions. Our bad. Wow. I love this name. Thank you, Brash Menagerie, for that great tune. First up, let's talk about hypnotic. We're not going to be so scattered that I'll just go back and forth between hypnotic and sleepover questions. That would be confusing. We're going to...

Focus first on the Ben Affleck, Robert Rodriguez film, Hypnotic, a film that according to discord user bubble alchemist should have had the tagline. You actually really like this movie.

I guess. I like it. Anyway, thank you, Bubble Alchemist, for that alt tagline. Let's go to the Discord. GT75 writes, as a banker, the robbery scene was driving me nuts. Safe deposit boxes require two keys to open. There's a guard key, which the bank employees have and use with all deposit boxes. And then there is a customer key for each box that only the customer has when the box gets rented out. Stealing a manager's keys would have been useless for Benefleck.

short of breaking into the client's home to steal the customer key. There would be no way for that teller to steal the box. I know it's a construct, but it is one that could not have taken place at all. Well, I guess what you're saying is, GT75, the memory writers, the construct builders, were shitty writers. They didn't do their research. They didn't do their Nolan-esque research into how a bank works. And I guess on top of that, businessmen,

Ben Affleck is dumb enough to just go along with it. Anyway, Chunk Style, that's Mitch Kappa, writes, since the construct starts out with Ben Affleck thinking they're in Austin, then they flee to Mexico. Does that mean in reality they had to drive around in circles in a golf cart for four hours? And did the hypnotics give Affleck and Braga some sort of privacy when they hooked up? Or did the hypnotics watch like pervs from that balcony? Oh, niche.

You know that everyone was watching that hookup. I mean, it's gross. I mean, they're hypnotics. That's how they get off. You know, they get off by watching. That is like their only fans. Setting up a construct and watching people fuck is hypnotics only fans. It's a part of the movie that they really wanted to get in there, but they ran out of time. I'm so sorry. Sean McBee writes, the inherent flaw with the entire movie is that what the division wants is

is for Ben Affleck to figure out who Lev Delrain is. So the division constructs a scenario in which they tell him that William Fichtner is Lev Delrain. Then, rather than looking for the actual location of his daughter, he spends his time in the scenario looking for William Fichtner. Furthermore, if they don't want him to realize that he's a hypnotic, why introduce a concept of hypnotics in the scenario at all? Why not...

I didn't even think about that. Why not have a straightforward mystery for him to solve around figuring out Lev Del Reyne, which totally sounds like a normal and real name that a human person would have without any of the division hypnotic stuff. Yes, you're right. Why not just say, here is a clue that we have. It's a picture of a missing girl. It says Lev Del Reyne. What does that mean? God, this movie is dumb. Anyway, let's go to the phone's

Mike from San Diego. Hey, Paul, June and Jason. Love everything you do. This is Mike from San Diego, originally El Segundo. There's an obvious connection that nobody talked about, about hypnotic and your first quarantine movie bloodshot. They're basically the same movie. Both protagonists are under a simulation by an evil corporation to do their bidding.

You know, Vin is trying to... He thinks he's trying to find the person who killed his wife, but really he's bumping off Guy Pearce's competition, and then Affleck, you know, trying to find his hidden daughter. Anyway, thought it was a great connection or a mission that was no one brought up. Thanks. Love everything you do. Bye. You are exactly right. You know, look...

I love Vin Diesel and I think Vin Diesel did a great job. There's been a lot of movies that have similar plots, but if you asked me to describe the movie Bloodshot, I would not have remembered it at all. You brought it all back to me. Wow.

Look at that. Look at that. Drafting off Bloodshot. I remember Bloodshot was like the first movie that came out straight to VOD during COVID and everyone bought it. Everyone was like, yeah, baby, Bloodshot. And you're like, oh, okay. It could have. It could have been something. That and Wonder Woman 84 really, really were blows to the system. It was like, oh, okay.

I get access to this stuff, but it's not good. It's not good. Anyway, so many great hypnotic corrections and omissions, but coming up after the break, we've got more questions, more comments, more concerns about sleepovers. Stick around.

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Alright, welcome back. We've left hypnotic in the past. Time to delve into corrections and omissions for the movie Sleepover. A movie that according to Discord user Anna Smithsonian could have had the tagline of "Sleepover: Not Police Approved."

Okay. If you all remember, police approved. That was the dating site that the girls were on where they had to police approve dating site. Anyway, thank you, Anna Smithsonian, for that alt tagline. Let's go to the Discord. Danimal, what do you got?

So many of the cringy moments from the film were talked about in this episode, but there was one I noticed that went unmentioned. When the girls arrive at the high school dance, one of the teachers gets on stage and makes this announcement. Almost time for the big dance contest, and remember, anything goes. So just pretend that Mrs. Withers and I aren't here.

What is with the creepy teachers in this town? You're right. I didn't even think about that. That's so bizarre. That's like Milk Money Bazaar. Remember what happened in Milk Money at that end dance with Terrence Stamp and Melanie Griffith?

These kids, no wonder Footloose came out. They need to control these kids. Dancing is evil. Dennis C. Abrams writes, Oh, our hosts. Very formal, Dennis. Our hosts talked about the barefootness and the skateboarding, but not the barefoot downhill high-speed skateboarding. How could she have stopped or slowed down that skateboard without losing all the skin on her feet?

Dennis Abrams, you are so right. That's our diehard moment. That's why we get connected to that character, because her feet are all torn up. We, you know what? We all want a sleepover, but we all know that you'll do anything to get it. And one of the things you'll do is rip off the bottom soles of your feet. Also, maybe she's just super fucking calloused. Maybe she just wears too tight shoes. Maybe...

She wasn't affected at all. And that's a whole other movie. Anyway, Dr. Guts, 1003 writes, perhaps this was included in Paul's timeline and not just mentioned in the episode. But from the moment Jane Lynch leaves the house for the night, it is pitch black outside. The movie takes place in June. There should still be some sunlight until 9, 930. Well, Dr. Guts, I think you're wrong. I think you're wrong because Jane

That may just be where you live, not like just in general, 9, 930. I don't think it's as not, not bright out here in LA at 9, 930. Somebody fact check that, not me.

All right, let's go to the phones. First up, Juliana from New York. Hi, Paul. This is Juliana from New York, but I also traveled all the way to New Orleans to see your show, The Hard Target Show. Loved it. I had a question because Sleepover is one of my favorite movies. I watched it when I was a kid. I think I was around eight when it came out, and I thought if you would have asked me then, I would have told you it was a perfect movie. I rewatched it before the show, and I was like,

Obviously, I realized it was not. It was very corny. But I did have a couple questions. First of all, what is plush? I mean, I never heard that term in the 2000s. And also, I only associate that with mattresses. So I thought that was odd. And second of all, did no one else think it was creepy that the fact that he just showed up in the treehouse? First of all, how did he get up there? Because that thing, like, collapsed.

Well, Juliana, I don't know. I mean, plush, the way that I've heard it referred to, could be like thick. But if I look online...

Plush also means, and this is the slang term, smart, comfortable, expensive. All right. So that feels more, more in line, right? So plush could also be like hot, awesome, fat, cool, dope, slick, ill, neat, good, soft and fluffy, stuffed animal or stuffed toy, or just a nice way of saying a larger person. So there you go. Uh,

That's what they say. I like plush as being expensive. I feel like that feels like in the tone of the film. All right. Wow. So many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one that is the best.

And boy, oh boy, two different movies. Two different things I have to think about. So many great ones. But you know what? I think the winner is simple. I think the winner is easy for me to pick. And that is, of course, going to be Sean McBee. Sean McBee, this theme is for you. You win. You win. You win nothing. But you're still cool. The reason why Sean won...

is because he brought up the smartest point. If you're trying to make somebody forget that they are hypnotic, don't remind them they're hypnotic. Anyway, thank you, John Wenzel, for that theme. Thank you to Sean McBee for that observation. And now...

I'm going to tell you something to do. Because if you want to get in on this, if you want to get a theme like that made for you, well, just go to our Discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm or call me at 619-Paul-Ask. That's 619-Paul-Ask, not Paul-Ass. That is a private line that I'm using a lot more now because of the strike. You can submit alt taglines, chime in with your own thoughts, whatever you want to do. Discord and 619-Paul-Ask. Coming up, Jason and I will chat about having the time of day

of our lives seeing Joni Mitchell. Plus, I will reveal next week's movie. And at the very end of the show, I'm going to share an exclusive deleted scene from our hypnotic episode. So stick around.

All right, welcome back. Just a reminder, every single week we are releasing an old episode from the vault. There is no vault anymore or no access to the vault anymore. So now it's up to you to help us pick what you want to hear on Matinee Monday. Head to our Discord, tell us on social, whatever. We're going to give you...

The best of the best. But last week, we had a replay of one of my favorite episodes, Teen Witch, with special guest Deanna Chang. So keep on checking out those replays every Monday. Now, you probably heard us mention in the sleepover episode that we saw Joni Mitchell right before the movie, and it kind of affected us while watching it. So Jason and I sat down to chat about this amazing concert and a lot more. Tom McWaters, play us into Just Chat.

We're going to have ourselves a conversation. Just chat. No quarantine or vaccination. Just chat. Paul and Jason, a couple of cats. Just chat. Just chat. Just chat. Shoo-bee-doo-boo-boo.

Jason, it's been a few weeks. And here we are. Here we are once again. We haven't talked about this on the show, but you and I experienced a night unlike any other recently. I don't even know. Here's what I'll say. I would love to talk about this. To talk about it without June is going to infuriate you. I know. I know. We should do a Last Looks episode.

about the fact that we saw, we went to Seattle and we saw Joni Mitchell play live at the Gorge Amphitheater, which was stunning. It is...

Unbelievable. The venue is unbelievable. It is like a concert venue on the edge of the Grand Canyon. It's fucking absolutely gobsmackingly, disgustingly gorgeous. Oh, man alive. It was stunning. I was really just basking in the glow. And for people who don't know, this is the first...

Ticketed Joni Mitchell concert in over 20 years, right? Joni Mitchell had an aneurysm in, I think, 2016 or 2015 and was in decline and then has kind of, through rehabilitation, kind of been coming out of it. And Brandi Carlile, the artist Brandi Carlile, has really been kind of, I feel like...

you know, engaging in these jam days, these jam sessions where a lot of, you know, cool people go over to Joni's house and they all just play music together. And then Joni joins in. And so... And I think a lot of people probably saw about a year ago, maybe two years ago, the Newport Jazz Festival. This was the first kind of public outing of Joni Mitchell in a long time. She came out on stage with this grouping of people and performed with Brandi Carlile. And it was...

Awesome. People lost their minds. It was incredible. It was a surprise appearance. That was the other thing. It was a surprise appearance. And, you know, like you said, Joni hadn't been seen in years. Right.

And that in and of itself was this huge thing. And so then they announced they were going to do this concert. And it was the same setup, a jam. And it was, you know, Brandi Carlile was kind of facilitating it along with a lot of the people in her band. And then also... By the way, I left...

a Brandi Carlile fan. Like I went in going, Oh, I know her and she's, I like her. She's fine. Like not fine, but I didn't have an opinion solidly. I just like, Oh yeah, I know that some songs and that's great. But I left on,

A massive fan. Oh, yeah. I went to the night prior. You guys weren't there the night prior. The night before the Joni concert at the Gorge was a Brandi Carlile concert. Just Brandi Carlile and her band, as well as some of the special guests that joined for the Joni concert as well, joined Brandi on Friday night. Was Annie Lennox there on Friday night? Annie Lennox was there.

Annie Lennox. Wow. Annie Lennox. Wow. What control of that instrument. Annie Lennox came in both nights and just demolished. She was so good. Demolished in a way that, look, everyone is singing. Everyone is up on this. It was, again, one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. I am pretty positive that you'll all be able to see it because I believe Cameron Crowe. Yes.

captured it. There was, I counted seven at least cameras on it and I saw Cameron Crowe there. Okay. I saw four drones like capturing it. Now, how were your seats? Oh, they were good. I was in like the front center kind of, you know. So good. We were a little bit on the side, but down low there, it was great. But Annie Lennox. It was, Annie Lennox, because the other thing that was cool was

And I shouldn't have told you. That was the mistake I made. On Friday night, Brandi Carlile brought out both Annie Lennox and Sarah McLachlan, both of whom sang their own songs with Brandi's band, which was also great.

But on Saturday night, I wish I hadn't told you that Annie Lennox and Sarah McLachlan had played the night before because they would have then been surprises to you on Saturday night because it was so fun when they just showed up. But Annie Lennox singing Ladies of the Canyon and then Sarah McLachlan playing piano and singing Blue was just incredible. First of all, can I just say one thing about Sarah McLachlan? How does she look younger? Stunning.

Then she looked in 1992. Stunning. Marry me, Sarah McLachlan. Wow. I was like, her tendrils were stealing the show. Those little whispers. The first night she came out, because again, totally a surprise, unannounced. Right.

came bounding from side stage barefoot and just came out and sang Sarah McLachlan songs. Like, it was great. But she sang blue beautifully. I mean, just, I mean, everybody just got up there. And I will say this, and you are much more of a connoisseur of music. I enjoyed what I saw at the Newport Jazz Festival. It was amazing. But,

I will say the difference between Joni Mitchell at Newport and what we saw on Saturday at the Gorge was night and day. I feel like I was blown away by it before. She was being a rascal. She was telling stories. She was telling stories about Bob Dylan and Van Morrison. She was doing jokes. She had Prince stories. Oh, Wendy and Lisa were both there.

and they told great stories about being in Prince's band. And I loved the story that Prince hired Wendy and Lisa because when he heard them play, they sounded like Joni Mitchell. And he loved Joni. In a way, they were telling stories about how important Joni was to Prince. And that was cool. The fact that she told the story about Prince coming over to her house...

sitting at her piano and starting to play a song. And Joni's like, what's that? And he's like, it's a case of you. And she's like, oh, yeah. Like, she had the energy of the most rascally grandma that you've ever had. To the point where sometimes I was a little bit nervous. Like, is she going to say something that she shouldn't be saying? But she was fully in control. Mischief. Fully funny. Mischief. And that's the difference. And her voice was...

She's saying like because, you know, her voice is not as good as it has been in years. It's changed. You know, it's her voice changed. Absolutely. Her voice changed just in general from the high alto that she had during the folk days. She even changed it through drinking and smoking purposefully. She always wanted to sound like.

have a deeper voice. So even when you go from, you know, like Ladies of the Canyon to Hegira or Don Juan's Reckless Daughter, that's two different voices. Never mind then Turbulent Indigo and the albums later into the 80s and 90s, even different voices. People were mad at me because I...

made them play Twisted on the way to the venue, which is like when she's doing like, the way Twisted sounds, it almost is like the theme for that Fran Drescher show, The Nanny. Yeah, it has like a little ba-da-da-da-da, ba-da-da-da-da-da, ba-da-da-da-da-da. My analyst told me

And it's great. It's a great song. Yeah. But you realize, like,

how much she has done and different ways that she is saying her voice this weekend sounded so much stronger than it did at Newport. So much so because, you know, you've got people, there's so much, uh, the band, the, the duo Lucius was there, the two singers, Lucius. And a lot of times if you watched Brandy or Lucius or other people were doubling Joni's voice, we're not doubling it subtly doubling it to, you know, to, to, to fill out, um, uh,

where Joni was missing pieces or was joining, and she would kind of come in and out. But then Joni just solo sang Summertime, and it was incredible. She sang a number of songs on her own and just was, it was devastating. As somebody who does live events like yourself, I'm always impressed by...

How people put together a live show. And this is a live show that has a lot of question marks to it because obviously they're going to tape it. They want to do it right because the Newport Jazz Festival, I think, was a surprise appearance. They weren't really prepared for it, even though they were releasing an album for it. And I feel like Cameron Crowe set her up for such success. Totally. Because the way that it was built and structured was if...

Joni was at 60%. It would still be 100% concert. You know, like there was an energy to it that she didn't even need to be there because everything around it was built to be this other thing. It wasn't maudlin, it wasn't sad, it was fun, it was happy, it was light. But what I got out of watching that, and Brandi Carlile, great emcee throughout the whole thing, like adjusting mics throughout the entire festival, but...

was that Joni at points were pushing off people. Almost like the idea of like, "Oh, let's help you stand." "Got it. I got it. I got it." And...

And so much so that you can almost see certain people like, oh, wow, we weren't expecting you to jump in as much as you were. Oh, yeah. She's no bullshit, man. Like, Joni is no bullshit and was like, was back to that. Yeah. Like you said, that rascally no bullshit vibe and was like there to like have a great time. And she looked like I kept being like, she's having so much fun.

Yes. You can see how much fun she's having. Even when she wasn't singing, when the artist Solis, who sang and played guitar, just Joni watching Solis was incredible. We've mentioned a number of people, but there was even more. Blake Mills, I think, Unsung Hero of the Night. Oh.

Oh, yeah. Playing Joni's guitar. Marcus Mumford on percussion. Matt Chamberlain, like one of my all time favorite drummers in the whole world. Matt Chamberlain. Unbelievable. When he showed up at Brandi Carlile's set on Friday, I was like, shit, that's Matt Chamberlain. Incredibly, incredibly, incredible band. I needed you nearby because I...

I spent the rest of the night Googling everybody up there. Oh, yeah. I'll tell you the one person I walked away with with a real love for, and I even texted you about this, but the whole night is...

It's a Joni concert where people are leading the way, kind of doing covers, their own versions of it. Sometimes she's joining in. Sometimes she's watching. She's also very active throughout the entire thing. But the one thing about this night is while it is a jam, everything that they're covering is primarily Joni songs or songs that Joni wants to do. Like Love Potion No. 9 or Young at Heart. Joni doing Young at Heart really wrecked me.

Oh, it was amazing. Now we get to about mid show and Annie Lennox has performed, right? Who just brought down the house. And then,

We throw to a man named Rick. A man named Rick who was an ageless man who, if you told me he was just out of college or just going into a retirement home, I would say... Why not? Why not? And Joni was like, I don't want Rick to do one of my numbers. He's an emerging artist, and I want him to do one of his own numbers. And it was...

And I was like, ooh, I wonder what this is going to be. And he killed it. He killed it with his song. But it was, it's like, you know, what if your one song, you know, he's like a, he's, I guess like one of the, he's one of, he's a friend of Joni's. He plays it all. Cause they do these jams at Joni's house. Like, I don't know, a couple of times a year or monthly or something like that. I'm not sure how often, but.

And he's a mainstay of those things. And for him to though, come out and he's not a, it's not a name that you would know. He's not a recognizable artist. Um, Rick Whitfield is his name. He's got, he's got two albums on Spotify. One is a Christmas album. Uh,

And one is, you know, another album he released a while ago. But imagine like your smokehouse. Yeah, exactly. Imagine you're used to playing the smokehouse, which is like a steakhouse restaurant here in L.A. And then you are playing for twenty twenty seven thousand people at the gorge. Your original song. Your own song. Meanwhile, every every song, Big Yellow Taxi. Yeah. You know, Sex Kills. Like all these songs are being played and everyone is so in and it's like.

Hey, we're going to do an original. And it's so clearly like Joni's want because she loves this guy. Oh, yeah. And I loved, I just loved that. I loved it. I loved that vibe because I think at the end of the night, what I really took away from that event was anyone can.

could have been there. Everyone probably wanted to be there. But because they kept it to people like Wendy and Lisa and this crew, this world that she's created, they really captured the spirit of the jam. So, like, there's another version of this where you just rotate in another famous person, another famous person, another famous person. But they kept...

they really kept the core. I think truly the only two people that were outsiders of that entire group were Sarah McLachlan and Annie Lennox. Totally. And I was so glad that this was, it wasn't, okay. And that's such a good point. And just to piggyback on it, I'm so glad this didn't feel like a tribute to Joni Mitchell. Exactly. Like here we all are, we're all going to sing Joni Mitchell songs in front of her. It was, no, this is a Joni Mitchell concert, but,

But everybody who's on stage, the band, are also going to be showcased. Yes. And yes, Annie Lennox and Sarah McLachlan sang their own interpretations of Joanie songs. But Brandi Carlile didn't even sing her own Joanie song. And a lot of this grew out of, this is a bunch of years ago, maybe five or six years ago, Brandi Carlile performed All of Blue as a concert.

All of Joni Mitchell's Blue is a concert. And so I saw Brandi Carlile here at the Palladium, I don't know, in 2018 or 2019 probably, and she played a couple of songs from Blue, and it was incredible. And I was like, whoa, this is next level. You know that, side note, you know that Brandi Carlile is incredible.

Incredible. I love it because now that you're a new fan, I really I really love Brandi Carlile. She's done all this Joni stuff. She has also been singing with and is actively trying to get Soundgarden to go on tour with her as their lead singer. The remaining members of Soundgarden.

She's played live with them, I think once or twice. She's played with all of the band, but just like a couple of songs, I think at a festival, at something like that. I'm not sure if I have all these details right, so forgive me if I'm getting something wrong, but I know that she wants to front some version of Soundgarden, which I think would be incredible. That would be fantastic. I think what I really appreciate sometimes too, and you know, I think that

There was such a period of time that I grew up where bands were too cool to kind of communicate with the audience a little bit. I've seen more of it lately. And I really feel like she put on a show that really brought you in. And in a way, like she described the show. I love this. I think about this a lot. She was like, tonight you're going to see...

You know, when you shake a snow globe and you see the snow falling down around a house and you look in the windows and you wonder, like, what's going on in those windows? Like, that's what you're going to see. Like, we're creating that. And I feel like that was the vibe. It felt so homey and small. Like, there are certain people on that stage that are just friends of Joni. One guy who I think might be her boyfriend. Another older woman who just seems to be a friend. They're not singing. They're not doing anything. They're just around. They have pictures of her dogs on stage. It was just...

It was really, really cool. And it was so good that when I said to June, you know, she's actually playing in Germany in October. June's like, I think we should go. I would go. I mean, it would be amazing. Um,

Yeah. But it was, it really was a special night. I love that it's like, it's not just we're honoring this person or like I said, a tribute. Yeah, it wasn't maudlin. No, it felt very alive. It felt very exciting and vibrant and alive. And it felt like from a place of what I liked about Brandi Carlile in this regard and in also kind of the Soundgarden thing is,

I love, to your point, it's not, she's not so cool as to not be a vocal fan of things. Yes. And that's what I love. You know, like she is out there championing all of these other artists, you know, and that's what's, and giving everybody their due and making sure everybody gets showcased and everybody, like there's just something very, there's a generosity to it that feels really impressive. And I think that's the case for a lot of music

musicians and bands. Now, I don't think it's as competitive or as like, fuck them, it's us, kind of the vibes of the older generations of rock acts and stuff. No, yeah, there's something really, really amazing about

We're there because we're fans and they're there because they're fans. It felt like if you YouTube, there's a great video of Joni playing Coyote, one of my favorite songs off of my absolute favorite album of all time, Hijera.

I think it's in Roger McGuinn's house from The Birds. He's there. She's playing it in front of Bob Dylan, who's just kind of like nervously watching her. And it's like it reminded me of what I know of those Laurel Canyon days when everybody from Zappa to the Monkees to Joni to Crosby, Stills, Nash, all of those people.

you know, Peter Tork, they would all be, you know, the mamas and the papas. They would, they all lived in the Canyon and they would all go to each other's houses and jam. And that feels, and, and the, the video I'm talking about on YouTube feels like that. And that's what Saturday night felt like. Well, let's end this last looks by kind of highlighting some things. If you are engaged by this, I know there's a great documentary about the Laurel Canyon gang.

Music scene, right? It is, yes. But there's two of them. The one that I think is, that I like more is a two-parter and it documents that whole scene and it's really very good. The other one that I don't like as much is the Jacob Dillon one from The Wallflowers. Yes. And he assembles like... The Godzilla soundtrack. Yeah. He assembles like Beck and a lot of contemporary artists.

to talk about, and there is a lot of talking about the Laurel Canyon scene and how impactful and important it was to the musicians of that generation. And so you see it's a little bit more modern people interpreting that stuff and talking about how important and impactful it was for them. That was a little less interesting to me. The one I loved is the other one that I think is called...

Is it called just Laurel Canyon? It might just be called Laurel Canyon. I can't remember. I'm looking at it right now. Oh, good. Yeah, and this one's called Laurel Canyon. The official trailer is on YouTube. It's made by Madman Films, which seems about right. Yeah, it's fantastic. That one, I really loved that movie. There's also, if you want to, go down the rabbit hole of live Joanie performances, there's

She put out a release that is the entirety of the Isle of Wight concert that is 1970 and is fantastic. And the one that I really love is Shadows and Light is what it is. Shadows and Light. And that has like Jocko and Pat Metheny. And it's a fucking the band is incredible. It's late. I think it's.

or 1980. I can't remember what year, but it's an absolute murderer's row in terms of the band. And it's a great show. And it's, I think almost all of it is, um, is on YouTube and, and that's really incredible. Um, as,

As well as there are just there's a treasure trove on YouTube of like Joni Mitchell live on the Dick Cavett show. Joni Mitchell live on this show. And it's you are you can chart the progress of Joni from Canadian television in the late 60s.

all the way through to like now, you know, because people have put up YouTube videos, have already been putting up YouTube videos from Saturday night. It's, it is amazing. And you can also, speaking of like YouTube videos, you were talking about Brandi Carlile and Soundgarden. Oh yeah. There's plenty of, you have her doing Black Hole Sun, uh,

You know, you have her searching with my good eye closed. You know, there are things. And she has said in Rolling Stone, like you said, she wants to be Soundgarden's new singer. Yeah, I love that. What would you recommend to me as somebody who is now getting into Brandi Carlile? Like, where should I go? Or do you have any recommendations for me? You know, I would just... I mean, just... She doesn't have... Like, you can just...

Dig in. You know what I mean? Obviously, the last couple of albums have been hugely impactful, but I think Brandi Carla has been making great music forever. So I think just roam around and find stuff. I love that. Now, she was a part of Highway Women, and this is like- High Women. High Women.

High Women. High Women is, no, it makes sense because it's a play on the Highwaymen. Highwaymen, got it. Which is, you know, Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard, which was the outlaws. Basically all the outlaw guys did the Highwaymen. So this is an answer to that. It's Maren Morris's.

Amanda Schreier. Amanda Schreier, Brandy, and some of us. Natalie Hemby. Okay, that's who I'm forgetting. And they're great. That is the bummer that I'm sad I missed. They played on Sunday night at the Gorge. And I admit, that was the one night I couldn't make, so I was disappointed. But I've never seen the High Women, but I think I've seen them play. I've seen videos of them, and it's great. Their harmonies are fantastic.

Well, I love this. This is a little...

Entry point in. And of course, like we said, the Newport album is coming out that was just recently remastered. And if you are at all interested, the Joni Mitchell archive is incredibly active right now. They've been remastering, reissuing. They're putting out box sets of stuff. The Joni Mitchell archive is absolutely worth checking out if you want Joni stuff. If you're obsessed with Joni Mitchell. All right. Well, then that's a little table setting.

for everybody to go on the journey that we are in our house are deeply in right now, listening to a lot of this stuff and kind of trying to get back to that amazing feeling of that night. So a different last looks for you. Oh, can I say one last thing? Please. Don't be discouraged by the fact that Joni Mitchell's music isn't on Spotify. Yes, absolutely.

She pulled it off when Neil Young pulled his stuff off and a bunch of other people did. And it's not gone back on yet. But you can still find it. You can still support Joni by going to other places. By the way, it's on Apple. It's on Apple Music. All the other streamers, you'll still find it anywhere. You can stream this music. Don't be discouraged by the fact that it's not on Spotify. What I will say, though... Yeah.

What you will find on Spotify are amazing covers, like Bonnie Raitt covers. And she is truly probably one of the most covered artists of all time. And there are so many songs that their most iconic version is someone else's version, like Woodstock. A lot of people don't know that Crosby, Stills and Nash, Woodstock is a Joni Mitchell song.

Wow. Look at that. You see? And I'll go one further. Not only did Joni Mitchell write Woodstock and Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young performed it, but Joni Mitchell wasn't at Woodstock because she had to stay in New York to film the Dick Cavett show the next day. And so she missed Woodstock. So the song Woodstock is written out of like FOMO.

Like the, she wrote Woodstock because of everything. Everybody was telling her about it and she felt so jealous or upset that she hadn't been there. She wrote the song, the definitive song about Woodstock having not been there. She's the best. Come on. Oh boy. Oh boy. All right. Uh, we'll check in with you next time. Goodbye.

All right. Thank you, Jason. Now that we got hypnotic and sleepover out of the way, let's talk about next week's movie. We are going from the end of middle school to the end of the world. That's right. Next week, we are watching Absolution starring Mario Lopez, Jamie Presley, and Richard Grieco. Here is a short breakdown of the plot. Most of Earth has been destroyed by an asteroid, but a small military colony called New America has a managed technology

to survive in the Arctic. By the way, I did not know that from the actual movie. When a soldier goes missing at the colony, authorities send an undercover agent to investigate. There are no reviews for this movie on Rotten Tomatoes, so instead we turn to Letterboxd, where user Fred Coleman writes, this movie is full metal dog shit.

All right, let's take a listen to the trailer. An alien invasion. Brian K. Murphy. That's me. Andy Quintana. It's my duty to welcome you to Foreman Military Academy, New American College. A futuristic army. Only one man can save the human race. Mario Lopez. I obey any and all orders you command. Jamie Presley. I've been here all night, and I haven't been ravaged once. What?

Absolution. All right, we are now at the end of this episode. But before we go, check out this bonus scene from our hypnotic show where we talk more about the actors in The Division.

If I'm in the division too, because the division is essentially a repertoire group of actors. Like it's just a group of actors acting. It's Patty LuPone. It's Kevin Kline. And I found it shocking that there's only been one child because actors as a whole are very horny people. They're always having sex with each other. And so...

Only two hypnotics ever had a baby? Well, here's something I want to talk to you about. It's against the law? Well, here's what I'll say. I want to talk to two of these points. First of all, it does... Guys, I'm having a great time. I really was like, this movie's so dumb. And I'm like, oh, man.

I love it. I was looking, I was watching the movie and one of my notes I wrote down early was, where are all the fucking people? Like, this must be a COVID movie because there are no background. Like, very, very, very empty scenes. And then I was like, oh, 36, 37.

36 Hypnotics, they can't fill all the scenes. Except for Mexico City. Well, then they put all of them into that one. Because he's moving from elevator to thing. They got to get basketball. They're driving around town. Mexico, they all could just run in. Yes. Okay, so all I'm saying is that

That is the reason why there's not that many people. I think it is against the law in the hypnotic world. Now, but I want to ask the audience. Do you think it's against the law for the red blazers to have sex with each other? Yes, to produce. To produce, so they can have sex for pleasure. But if you say, what they do say, what they do say is that. I also love that you said produce and not reproduce. Produce.

We produce a lot of great stuff. You guys construct. You guys can fuck, but you better not produce. But but. Oh, I'm not a Ralph's. I'm going to Gelson's for its produce. I just want to also speak to June's point.

I really want to say to you, June, what an honor it would be to be the bank teller because you're working on your craft. Your job in real life is to go up to the CEO, the prime minister. You have to be like, I need my instrument oiled. You want to be getting these small parts. I am the bank manager. I am the hot woman. I am the bank manager.

Yeah. Temperature hot woman. And to me, what a great honor to play all these roles. What better way to learn? And maybe that back lot is their training grounds for new hypnotics. What you're absolutely right about is to be at the division is basically like going to Juilliard. It's getting a MFA. Michael Shannon was a hypnotic.

And it's so interesting because actually these hypnotics have probably, well, I don't really know. I can't speak for them, obviously, but not a lot of interest in acting and performing. And so that's what I'm saying. That's what's so fascinating about watching their work is that they, their whole job is to get into other people's minds, not to like embody others. Yeah.

I thought. Yes. Oh, no, you're right. No, they need to embody. Now they do because of circumstance. Right, but I think their thing is to make people in the world do their bidding. Do their bidding. It's like when Tom Cruise puts on the mask in Mission Impossible. I think that's true, yeah. Yeah, it's like he's hypnotic, but he's got to use a fucking mask. They don't need to wear a mask. But you know what Tom Cruise doesn't do when he's about to go on a mission? What? He doesn't say to Ving Rhames and Simon Pegg, places, everybody. What?

He fucking knows what he's up to. He's not about... I'm sure. Thank you, thank you, two minutes. Thank you, two. Thank you, two. I'm pretty positive. I'm pretty positive somebody clapped their hands together and said, it's showtime. Yeah.

All right, that's it for our show. Please remember to rate and review. It helps. And if you listen on Apple Podcasts, make sure you are following us. You can visit us on social media at HDTGM. A big thank you to our producers, Scott Sani and Molly Reynolds, our movie-picking producer, Avril Halle, our engineer, Casey Holford, and Jess Cisneros, who makes those amazing social media videos. All right, thank you so much, and we will see you next week for Absolution.

Thank you.