Last Looks: Munchies & The Dog Who Saved Christmas
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Hello to all my munchie lovers and my fellow dog perverts. I'm your host, Paul Scheer, and welcome to this very special, supersized edition of How Did This Get Made? Last Looks. You might be wondering, Paul, why is it special? Why is it supersized? Well, we took a little break over Thanksgiving, so this episode is going to address both the

of our last films, Munchies and The Dog Who Saved Christmas. And if that is not enough, now the actor strike is finally over, Jason and I can once again chat about all things TV and movies that we are currently loving. Plus, as always, I will reveal next week's movie and I will share a couple of exclusive bonus scenes from our last two episodes.

episodes. So that's why it's a special supersized edition, people. It is the season of giving, and I am giving you a big old episode. But first of all, a big shout out to Dan from Rochester. Dan, I love that theme song. That was awesome. What a great way to start off this episode. And you know what?

I don't just love Dan from Rochester. I love everybody who sends in a theme song. If you have one that you want to send for this program, the Last Looks program, send it into howdidthisgetmade at earwolf.com, but keep them short, just like Dan did. That's perfect. And now I have a very special non-announcement. Yes, because on Monday, we are going to have a big announcement, but I can't officially tell you what that is yet.

But I will tell you, if you live in Europe, you're going to want to pay attention to our social media channels on December 11th because How Did This Get Made has a very big announcement. Okay, so...

I think most of you can put that together. It might be the first time something is happening with our show and Europe. Again, I can't announce it, but I feel like I've given you plenty of context clues to put it together. Remember, Monday, December 11th. Stay tuned to our social media channels and find out more. All right, people.

I thought that was a pretty good clue. Let's get into it. During our last two episodes, we talked at length about both Munchies and the dog who saved Christmas. We had questions, and we might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set us straight. You know, fact check us, if you will. It is now time for Corrections and Omissions. Hit the theme! Boy, me, if I'm wrong.

Thank you, Anyhow Blues, for that great theme. Up first, we'll be talking about Munchies, a film that Discord user PNWPeloma, so that's PNPWPeloma, thought could have had the tagline,

weed won't help you with these munchies. Oh, I like that. That was actually really, that might be my favorite tagline that we've had since we started doing these taglines. All right, let's go to the discord. Sean McBee writes, there is a chapter on munchies in Francesco Borsetti's book, It Came From The 80s, in which the writer, director, cinematographer, and munchie designer are all interviewed. It answers a lot of the questions the gang had and brings up another. So here's what I learned. A

According to the writer, Lance Smith, Roger Corman wanted a scene where Arnold ate the dude's hash brownies, inspiring the name Munchies. Corman changed his mind about the scene, but the name stuck. I like that. Okay, that makes some sense. The writer also made himself a personal promise that if he ever got to do a creature feature, he'd have the deadhead die first just because they're such, this is a quote, annoying assholes. Wow. Wow.

coming at the deadheads. The writer also confirms that the munchies are not aliens. Okay, but does not tell us what they are. Interesting. Director Tina Hirsch made her directorial debut on this film, having previously been an editor on three of Roger Corman's movies. He knew she wanted to direct and selected her for this movie because she had been the editor on Gremlins, which we did talk about, or maybe we edited that out, but we did know that.

Hirsch also noted that on Gremlins it took five people to operate each puppet, but on Munchies they had a single person operating two puppets simultaneously and they didn't even build any elevated sets to allow room for the puppeteers. Um, no shit. We saw it. The puppetry sucked.

Uh, they also filmed an entire opening sequence showing how the munchies were created a thousand years ago in a Mayan cave, but it got cut. Wow. We need to see that deleted scene. Cinematographer Jonathan West gave answers on the budget question 1.2 million. Wow. Did a lot of that go to...

Harvey Korman? Or like, did Harvey Korman request payment twice? I don't know. I want to get to the bottom of that. Lastly, my own note from the book. I'm surprised that no one noticed that the crazy driving granny who was oddly 80-yard by a clearly much younger person doing an old lady impression was actually Ellen Dow, best known as the rapping granny from The Wedding Singer.

How do we not call out the rapping granny? There's been so many of them. And why wouldn't you use the rapping granny's voice? Anyway, then Farm Boy writes in to discuss the audience member in the episode who identified himself as a space lawyer, saying space law is actually a recognized field in law and space lawyer is apparently a real term. McGill Faculty of Law in Montreal offers a master's degree in air and space law and the University of Mississippi School of Law provides

publishes the world's only law journal devoted to space law. Meanwhile, Michelle Hanlon is a prominent example of a space lawyer. All right. Thank you, farm boy. I hope that the space lawyer did not pay you to write that. But yeah, you learn something new. That's what I love about this show. This show is like New York Times, The Daily. You're learning about things that we never even knew or possibly

or possible. And now we all know about space law, and it will now be the premise of my brand new NBC sitcom, Space Lawyer.

Matty Ice writes, for those keeping track, Frank Welker, who voiced some of the Munchies, has now been a voice part in 15 How Did This Get Made movies. Whoa, he has been in Munchies, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2, Hudson Hawk, Super Mario Brothers, The Shadow, Mortal Kombat, Virtuosity, The Island of Dr. Moreau, Space Jam, Anaconda, Godzilla, Deep Blue Sea, Transformers, Rise of the Fallen, The Backup Plan, and The Smurfs.

Pretty incredible run. Well done, Frank. I love it. Let's go to the phones. Anthony from Providence, you're on. Hey, Paul. I really enjoyed the Munchies episode. While watching the film, I thought the actor who played Dude looked really familiar, so I looked him up. Turns out the actor, John Stafford...

who's a really good character actor, also played Doc in Full Metal Jacket. So it's a small part, but it is a speaking role. And what's funny is that Munchies and Full Metal Jacket both came out in the same year, 1987, and they're the first two credits on his resume. So he literally went from dying on the battlefield in the famous sniper scene in Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket to getting killed by alien hand puppets, which I thought was just really wild. Anyway, great episode. Take it easy.

What? My mind is blown. Talk about highs and lows in one year. I love that. Wow. Imagine, you know, you're hanging out on set with Kubrick. He's like, oh, what have you been working on? Oh, just this, the munchies. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. All right. Let's hear from Carolyn in Dallas. Hi, guys. I was just listening to the munchies and you

you guys talk about how Paul's mom would say it must be jelly because jam don't shake like that. And I remembered that RuPaul actually says that multiple times on Drag Race. And I think it

I think she might even have a song called that. But I also looked it up, and apparently, It Must Be Jelly Cause Jam Don't Shake Like That is a 1942 jazz and pop song recorded by Glenn Miller and his orchestra. So that phrase has been around for a long time. It's something that people say. So Jason was wrong that

Paul's mom was saying stuff that people don't say. So anyway, love the show. And hopefully you'll come to Dallas sometime soon. Thanks so much. Bye. Yes. Thank you, Carolyn. That, I knew it.

My mom isn't that clever to come up with that on her own. And damn you, Jason. I knew it was from something, but I didn't do the research. You did. I appreciate that you did. And you know what? As a matter of fact, let's hear a little bit of that original song. The Glenn Miller original right now. Pretty damn catchy. That's a banger. And now let's hear RuPaul's song.

Yes, I am basking in the glory of being right. And by the way, you're welcome for me introducing you to some new hits. I mean, this should be going up on the charts pretty quickly. All right, let's hear it now from Andy.

Amy in Baltimore. Hi, Paul. I was at the DC show for Munchies, had an amazing time, and I have been waiting very patiently for the release of the episode so that I could call and ask you this question. So listening to How Did This Get Made brings me so much joy, but nothing delights me more than when you share the amazing stories from your childhood. So I'm

So what I would love to know is when will you be releasing your memoir and can I be first in line to get a copy? I am dying to hear your answer. Thank you so much and take care. Amy, this is a great question. As a matter of fact, May.

May is when my book is coming out. Yeah, it's called Joyful Recollections of Trauma. I'm in the midst of kind of finalizing it right now. It's not officially announced, but if you look around, you can pre-order a copy right now. So more on that soon. But May 21st, Joyful Recollections of Trauma by me, Paul Scheer. Some stories that you might have heard here on the podcast and some stories that you might

Might be surprised by. I don't know. I'm putting it together right now. We're just kind of adding some stuff back in. I like it. I'm excited for it. I hope you all like it too. But yes, May 21st, mark your calendar. You can be first in line because you asked. All right. Now, we've had so many great corrections and omissions. We are going to take a quick break before diving into your thoughts on The Dog Who Saved Christmas. But first, enjoy the short deleted scene from...

our munchies show where we learn an interesting fact about the main character's shoes. Be right back. I'm here with Mike. Mike Lindell? Not Mike Lindell. My pillow? Mike on the Discord brought up something interesting, which I think is just worthy of mentioning. Throughout the entire movie, the lead actor wears a 1985 pair of Jordan 1s, which just had their own movie in air and...

Just watched get covered in dirt and grime and mud. And at one point, he actually jumps into a body of water to help the girls. Those shoes today... Cindy. No, no, I think the cheerleader girls, the two other women. The tire girls. Go ahead, Mike. A used pair of those in that condition would go for anywhere from $1,500 to $3,000.

And if there were any left on set, those brand new shoes sell for anywhere from $30,000 to $52,000 currently online. I would never have assumed that sneaker culture and how did this get made fans would overlap in a Venn diagram at all. I not only did not notice the sneakers in this movie, even if I had, I wouldn't have known any of that. That's wild. How did this get made?

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All right, welcome back. That is enough of munchies. You know, you might be thinking, Paul, you didn't say who won. Well, you know what? I'm not going to pick a winner just from the munchies. I'm going to pick a winner that is a combined winner. Who is the best question, concern, correction and omission amongst both shows? So that's really it's a tougher, it's a tougher, I don't know.

Tougher jump to make, I guess. That's not a perfect metaphor, but I'm going to stick to it. A tougher jump to make. Anyway, let's get into corrections and omissions from The Dog Who Saved Christmas, a movie that Discord user TheChristmasMartianana?

Finks could have had the tagline, Bark, the Herald's Angels Sing. I like it. Nice. All right, let's go to the Discord. And speaking of the Christmas Martinana, she writes, Can someone please explain to me why the cat is named Chigwe? Also, if the grandma lives so far away, how is she frequently going to karaoke night with Bobo Kevin James' neighbor lady?

Oh, wow. Maybe she lived there earlier on or or maybe. Wow. That makes actually no sense. Again, we talked about this in the show. That movie was heavily improvised and no one was fact checking. No one was saying that makes no sense. It was like, let's go. Let's keep it moving. We just needed a joke about singing Hanukkah songs at karaoke, which already I feel like.

Let's not even call that much attention out to that one. GT75 says, Another weird choice for me was building the gingerbread house when the home is known to have a mouse problem. I would think the last thing they would want sitting out is a huge cookie structure that they said took two weeks to build. Surely if Zeus is just chasing the mice, he could have knocked over anything fragile. You know what? Now you're really getting in the weeds here, GT75. I appreciate a good correctional omission, but...

There are so many things wrong with that gingerbread house. I think that building one where there's a mouse problem is the least of the problems. I think you could cover that up just fine. I get it. But we're really, I mean, if you're picking at that, like you're treating this movie like it's Oppenheimer. I mean, that's, that is a real, a real underneath the carpet one. Again, a phrase no one used, underneath the carpet.

it. Jay Z 23 also has some gingerbread house thoughts. Oh, wow. Jeez. Okay. Regarding the gingerbread house, the mom said this is the only thing she, the grandma wants for Christmas. Why does the grandma want a gingerbread house and what is she going to do with it? Well, first of all,

Eat it. Second of all, it's a nice thing. It's like, don't spend money on me. Make something for me. I would love you all to put your time and energy into a beautiful gingerbread house. I like that sentiment. I think it's a big ask, honestly. And why did they have to make it? They could have probably just lied and bought one. I mean, that thing was a mess. I tried to make one from Target, a gingerbread house. It looked like a damn shame. I thought it was going to be easy. It's not easy. Gingerbread houses are hard. Just go buy one.

Let the professionals do it. Sean McBee writes, I found Adrienne Barbeau's line. That's what happens when you outlive most of your family. Absolutely chilling. Because hear me out. Barbeau is only 64 when this movie comes out. So either that line was intended for a woman 20 years older than her, or this cat lady has had a tragic fucking life that is far and away more compelling than anything else going on in this movie. And it makes me want to see her again.

Her movie. Sean, wow. Oof. That is a rough moment there. I mean, but if she is playing 20 years older, then it's kind of fine. Do you think she's playing 64? I don't know. Oof.

All right, back to the phones. We have Anna from Los Angeles. Hi, Jason, Paul, and June. The dog who saved Christmas. There was a great audience question, but I found myself yelling at my phone that she failed to mention that Michael Pfeiffer, the director of this film, also directed another How Did This Get Made play.

Classic, "The Twelve Pups of Christmas." He has a great record for this podcast, and I think we now need a spinoff podcast that watches his entire filmography, or at least the sequels to "The Dog Who Saved Christmas." Thanks, bye. - What? I did not realize that I had all the credits. I didn't see it. And even Discord user Lizard Breath mentioned this fact and added, "Since the podcast has done two of Michael Pfeiffer's Christmas movies,

Can we please do one of his murder movies next? Based on the titles alone, I vote for My Daughter's Psycho Friend or Here Kills the Bride. Oh, I am so in. We have to tell Averill about this. By the way, 12...

Pups of Christmas will be our next Matinee Monday episode. So we will tip the hat once again to this director who has provided us with so much entertainment. Next up, Emma. Hi, I'm Emma. I'm calling about the dog that saved Christmas. I was actually at the show and wanted to ask this question, but I was too anxious to do it. Is there a reason why...

When the cops are taking the white bandits away, Joey Diaz's character is not wearing handcuffs. He's just holding one of his hands in front of him, his wrists together, as if he was wearing them, but absolutely no handcuffs on him. Yeah, that's it. Oh my God, Emma, I'm looking at a still of it right now. You are 100% right. His hands are just...

over each other. What a week. Why not? You would think that even renting that outfit, you'd get cuffs. No cuffs.

That is absolutely, I want to stare at, this is a picture I want in my house. I think this should be like a Christmas picture I put over the mantle. Let's go to LJ from Rancho Cucamonga. Love that. Watching the Dogs Who Saved Christmas. And you said it was from the ABC family, 25 Days Countdown to Christmas. And when they do the exterior shot of the grove at about two, only two minutes and 55 seconds in, you see a billboard saying,

for the countdown to the 25 days of Christmas. So my question is, did they shoot this a year in advance and put that in, or was that footage filmed mere weeks or days before this film got put on TV?

Thanks. Okay, LJ, I like your thought process on this, that it was shot just days before, but ABC Family's 25 Days of Christmas is a yearly thing, so I bet you they just shot it the year before. I don't think they were just getting that, like...

top of the movie right out before. But who knows? Honestly, with a movie like this, I don't know. But yes, ABC's Family 25 Days of Christmas is a thing. I think it's going on right now, as a matter of fact. We're missing it. But if anyone can prove LJ right, let me know. All right, and now back to the Discord for one last comment from Dog Pervert Idiot, who comments, this is the hairiest character that Mario Lopez has ever played. Wow. Finally,

We got some hair on Lopez. I love it. This has been a wild week. So many great corrections and omissions, but there can only be one, one winner that really encapsulates the spirit of the show. And I have to say, you all, you brought it. You brought it to me and I felt really good, but I have to say,

The person who I am giving this to is the person who got my back, who proved me right. It took a while, but she came to help me. Carolyn from Dallas, you are our winner. That's right. And you get this amazing theme from Seth Chatfield. Hit it. Rose to the top to defeat all the others. You really honored your father and mother.

you brought it all and you went on guess what buddy you win nothing

Thank you so much for all these corrections and omissions. And if you want to submit an alt movie tagline or chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit us up at the Discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm or call us at 619-Paul-Ask. Coming up, Jason and I will chat about all the TV shows, movies, podcasts, books, and so many other things that we can finally talk about again. And I will reveal next week's movie. But first, enjoy this deleted scene from...

The Dog Who Saved Christmas, where we talk about the actors who appear in the rest of The Dog Who Saved sequels. Now, Adrienne Barbeau is in two, but this is where it gets crazy. Paris Hilton, Casper Van Dien, Catherine Oxenberg are in the sequel. What? Wait, number two? Just number two? Just number two. Lance Henriksen, Maya... What?

Lance Henry Anderson. Lance Henry Anderson. Yes. Maya, sorry, I always have a hard time pronouncing her. Maya, Maya. Maya Angelou? No. Maya Angelou? No. Maya Angelou and under everyone's seat is a book of her poetry. Poet laureate for a reason. Maya. Maya Bialik. Curtis Armstrong. Booger? Yes. Are in the Halloween series.

Great. Love it. Shelly Long comes in for Shelly Long and Michael Gross from Family Ties. Legends. For holidays. Michael Gross played my dad on NTSF. He's a lovely man. He was also in Grace and Frankie. Great. Great guy. He's been in a number. Nicole Eggert comes in for Easter. And then...

The bad guy from Karate Kid, Martin Kove, who plays Sensei John Kreese in the original Karate Kid with Johnny...

From the Karate Kid, William Zabka. Whoa. Come in for Summer. Are they their characters from the Karate Kid? I'd only assume yes. Honestly. I would believe it if this was a crossover. I have a feeling a lot of these people are doing dog work. Because I'm looking. Because William Zabka plays Apollo. I imagine that that's not a human name. But we'll see. Because I do believe we should throw the gauntlet down to ourselves. Please don't.

Please really consider what you're about to say. I'll let the audience decide. I'll let the audience decide here. I mean, I feel like they want it. I feel like over the course of some time, at Easter, we do Easter. At summer, we do summer. At Halloween, we do Halloween. And we got two more Christmases. Okay, fine. We'll do it.

This is our new Fast and Furious. I will say that I don't want to do the last one in the series that they just announced, which is the dog that saved the kids from being human trafficked. Caviezel's in it. It's a sequel to The Sound of Freedom, and it's a hard pass from me.

Welcome back, people. You know this. Every Monday, we are releasing an old episode back into the feed. We're trying to keep this whole thing going. We had the great Jack Frost with Dan Harmon on last week. We

We have now Snow Dad is better than No Dad. We have those as a How Did This Get Made ugly sweater, which you can get on Podswag. We have a Geostorm ugly sweater you can get on Podswag. They are great looking. Also, because, like I mentioned earlier, this week's Matinee Monday is going to be a replay of another canine Christmas classic, The

Yeah.

Is it this, or could it be that? A little swing of the cane, a little tip of the hat. No, it's Jason and Paul, just getting into it all. In a segment that we call Just Check.

Jason, the strike is over. And finally, we can get back to what we love doing, which is talking about things that we are watching. All the things we're obsessed with. Things that are made by giant corporations. Finally, our love is back. Now we can go from fighting these giant corporations to singing their praises. Oh, how quickly we turn. You did it again, Lucasfilm. Yeah.

Oh my God. Well, you know, I was just happy that it happened. Well, I will say like I was, I will say I was going through my like,

things to talk about list. Yeah. And cause I keep one kind of just ongoing. Yeah. And, but, but for these, you know, six, seven months, I've only been putting stuff on there that is not from these companies. So there's, I still have stuff on here to talk about that is non that was strike proof stuff to talk about. So, okay. So I, I will have a few things. Well, I like that. I think the one thing that, you know, someone said to me early on, like,

Are you so excited the strike is over? Because now that it is, you and Jason can talk about moonlighting. And you and I got to talk about it briefly when we were on tour. But my God, I'm so excited. Isn't it incredible? It's so good.

Incredible. I'm like, I'm two seasons into it. The whole of Moonlighting, if you've listened to us talk about it before, has been unavailable for streaming until just last month. It is now available on Hulu for the very first time, and it is exceptional television. Bruce Willis, Cybill Shepherd. Here's the thing, and I think this is what I was never really able to articulate, and maybe it's been because it's been gone for such a long time.

You know how Die Hard was obviously a huge movie and then people tried to ape that style of Die Hard over and over again and to varying degrees of success. Bruce Willis, what he does as an actor in this is something that people tried to ape to varying degrees of success. And because of how did this get made, I think that we often see

people doing bad Bruce Willis impressions and seeing him do it after years of not seeing it. Yeah. It's interesting because exactly what you're saying is true. This, this was such an impactful TV show culturally. Yeah. The performance was so game changing for Bruce Willis for TV. It was such an incredible performance. And as was simple shepherd, the show is incredible, but, uh,

Its absence means all you've... It's like the De La Soul albums being out of print for all these years. And in a way, now that they're finally available, people are discovering just how significant they were to all of hip-hop history because they were so meaningful at the time for so many people, but then were basically the equivalent of out of print. You know, you could not get them. They were not streaming. They weren't available. You couldn't watch...

these performances. You couldn't watch Moonlighting. And so all we've lived in is everything it inspired and all of its hacky ripoffs. And I think the other thing that I've really come to appreciate, again, I didn't know this as a child, but Sybil Shepard. Like, Sybil Shepard is awesome. And she plays him really well. And I feel like, you know, he obviously gets so much

And he's great. But it's like, I really I just didn't know her. I didn't know her. Like, I didn't even understand what she was when I was a kid. But that was this person in a way. Well, it's so interesting to me because I agree. And, you know, but to me, it was Dave and Maddie. Yes. Like it wasn't even Bruce Willis and Sybil Shepard. Like, obviously, I didn't know Bruce Willis was at the time.

But I mean, I had like a passing understanding of Sybil Shepard. She was had been in movies and on shows forever, you know, but even still, it didn't matter. They were just Dave and Maddie to me. I love you. Their chemistry is crackling. It's like it's like Rosalind Russell and Cary Grant and his girl Friday. It is like incredible screwball comedy. Case of the week. Detective stories. It's the fucking best. But I will say this.

If you have never watched the show and you have no allegiance to it, you might feel like we are overselling it if you're watching the first episode. Because the first episode is, it's a great pilot, but it's 90 minutes and it takes a beat to figure out exactly. Well, like a lot of TV at the time, it's slow. It's just slow, you know?

And it's really good, but it's but it is funny. It's like I was like I was showing it to June. It's like I think I remember this now. I remember lines from that pilot. Like I remember so many things, but it's 90. It's a 90 minute pilot for an hour long show where like like the first 20 minutes. I feel like Bruce Willis is not in it.

Uh, and you're like, no, because it's, it's the, you have to first understand the crime. Then you have to understand Maddie Hayes. And then only then do you get into who is David Addison? Yeah. It's really like, so I would say like at least give it,

Like, get through the pilot, watch an episode or two, and then you'll see what we're talking about. But if you're watching it cold, I was realizing, like, June was like, I'm into this. Yeah, I will say, and I wonder if you have any, this is an interesting question. There are very few pilot episodes, first episodes of a TV show that I think are themselves incredible. Or are themselves incredible representations of the show to come. I find most shows,

shows pilots are a little wonky, a little off. And when it does hit right, your twin peaks is your, you know, some of the other things that I think are unimpeachably fantastic arrested development are just kind of like, wow, this is incredible. Everything else you're like, okay, this is like,

65% there. They, you know, it takes a little bit. Right. The, the, the voices and the tone was there. And it's like, I think I'm reacting to is like, you get into the fun stuff. Like all the characters are there. They're clean. It's like, but then the show just moves with a pace. Like the pacing of the show is so fast and you're there in the scenes, but like the plot of the first episode is it's wild. It's, I mean, I just love it. They made television like that.

Ooh. And it's also, I will say it's a great LA show. It's a great eighties, LA styles, hairstyles, the clothing styles, just eighties. LA is very much on display. And it, that is very fun. I love it. All right. So you've been talking about some other stuff that you have been watching. That still is strike proof. Uh,

what do you got? Cause I got, well, you know, I'm trying to think of less what I'm watching more of what I'm reading and podcasts and stuff like that. Those are more like in the world of like strike proof stuff. I want to give a particular shout out, especially a, a, a, I want to shout out. I spent, we were there for our tour and then I was there seeing family. I was in Portland, Maine for a while. And over the last couple of months, I've been to Portland, Maine a bunch and have become obsessed with,

With WYAR 88.3 Yarmouth, Maine public radio station. I love this shout out. Like an old timey radio station that plays like old time music, literally old time music. And I'm absolutely captivated by this radio station and it does not stream.

And so I'm calling on our fans to like if listen, it's the it's the giving part of the year. If you've got money to give and you want to give it to a small radio station in Maine to help them get us or if you can help them figure out how to stream their radio station. I thought you were going to be basically asking for people to make you tapes and send it to you like I used to. Or that.

Or that. I will tape. I would happily receive tapes of this. I just am more like, I feel like somebody just needs to turn on a switch for these guys. It seems like a bunch of old guys running a radio station. It is so funny and I'm so obsessed with it. And then I went to stream it when I got back to LA and was heartbroken to find that it does not stream at all. Anyway, WYAR 88.3 in Yarmouth, Maine. You guys, you're killing it. First of all, I love all this. I want to talk about one thing that I,

I feel like no one has talked about and I feel crazy about it. Okay. You know, I love Calvin and Hobbes when I was a kid. Sure. Great comic. You know that Bill Waterston just released a book.

yes it's called the mysteries and i feel like i've talked to some diehard calvin and hobbs fans who have no idea it's not calvin and hobbs obviously it's actually very cool it's like this very um this weird kingdom it's like a fable like uh about this kingdom that's in despair uh the king sends out a knight to discover what what is wrong that's all i kind of say it's

And it's just, I mean, I'm just a fan of Bill Waterston. I just feel like, you know, I mean, my favorite Calvin and Hobbes, I always tell you this, is Calvin pissing on the GMC logo or the Chevy logo. Yeah, because Calvin's straight Ford F-150s all the way. I remember. I love it when Calvin pisses. Calvin every...

Don't you think there must be kids who go through those books? Don't you think there are kids who go through those books now and are like, where is he? When does he piss? It's so terrible. I think Bill Watterson tried to sue people because Calvin never pissed. But yet this idea of Calvin pissing is like...

Arguably the most iconic Calvin is the pissing Calvin. Like the one that has lasted the longest is the pissing Calvin for real. Pissing Calvin is wild. I will say that there's one thing and it's burned into my brain. It's not funny, but it, I will just, whatever. Uh,

I was in New York City and there was a fire department. And, you know, obviously they had lost firefighters during 9-11. And they had this beautiful mural. And one of the pieces of the mural was Calvin in front of a gravestone praying. And I was like, no, this is like, I've also seen the Calvin in front of a gravestone for multiple things too. It's like, I don't know, like,

It took me out of the sentiment. It was like, wait, what the fuck? Why is Calvin here? Why is Calvin at the gravestone too? Oh, that's crazy. Calvin has been misappropriated. I've seen Calvin at gravestones now multiple times too. I don't know why. It's so weird. I don't know why. It's bizarre.

I was trying to find what it's called, but there's a great book. I think there's two of them now that I think are called the annotated Calvin and Hobbes. Okay. Where it's all sorts of extra material from the production of and all sorts of, I think that's what it's called. I'm trying to look it up now, but I'm not finding it. I'll find it. It's called something else. That was back in the day when things were, I mean, look, I mean, when I was getting my comics the right way,

Oh, we're so old. It's just old men now talking about being old. I'm talking about Calvin and Hobbes, Bloom County. I'm talking about when Calvin and Bart would team up and piss on a GMC logo. Oh, man. By the way. Oh, man. I got a recommendation for you. It's probably too new for you to have seen yet, but I'm a big Scott Pilgrim fan. I love the books. Brian Lee O'Malley. Takes off.

Let's go. Scott Pilgrim takes off. Let's do it. Love it. It's so good. It's so good. It's so fun. It's a Netflix show. It's animated. It's fully done in an anime style. It's anime. I should say not animated. It's anime. They did it in Japan. They have the whole team. My buddy, Ben David Grabinski and Brian Lee O'Malley just teamed up. They got the original voices of everybody from Scott Pilgrim.

versus the world, and they put him in this thing, but it's completely unique and different. You don't need to have seen the movie. You don't need to have read the books, but yet it's not retreading. It's like, it's yet again, another meta take. It's such a smart play.

You know, I loved, I'm loving, I haven't finished it yet. I think I've watched four of them so far. I don't know how many there are, but I think I've watched four. And it is absolutely fantastic because exactly what you're saying. It takes the book and the movie, the books and the movie as a kind of starting point and just kind of, yeah.

goes in all sorts of different storytelling, just indulges in the curiosity of following these characters in other choices, interpreting them in other ways. I think it's absolutely fantastic. The one funny thing was I wanted to watch Scott Pilgrim, the movie, before I started watching the show, just because I was like, I want to just refresh myself, get back in that world. And it's so interesting how...

watching them back to back because that was 14 years ago the movie came out and everyone's voice has matured and changed so much yeah Michael Cera does not sound like Michael Cera from 2010 and yeah it's still a great performance but it's so I was like oh wow like they've grown up like Ramona doesn't sound like Ramona like even though it is Mary Elizabeth Winstead it's like everyone is back it's just sure but they've all grown they've all grown and they've changed that's why I'm all for it have you ever read the books

Oh, yeah. You're all for AI? Oh, sorry. Did I do that? Wait a minute. I heard you just say that. Love the books. Love the books. Have you by any chance read Brian Lee O'Malley's book Seconds? It's a single book. I love Seconds. Love. Like, cannot recommend enough the book Seconds by Brian Lee O'Malley. I've talked to him about that because I'm like, I just love that. It's just, it's a...

I feel like it doesn't get its due. I feel like Scott Pilgrim takes up so much oxygen. Seconds is great. Oh, it's beautiful. I think that book is fantastic. And I'll throw out a couple of other great comics recommendations if you've got a second. Yeah. Graphic novel-wise, roaming. Jillian Tamaki and Marina Tamaki.

who did that one summer, a book that I've talked about here that I think is absolutely stunning. New book from them. Incredible, beautiful, beautiful book. Beautiful story, beautiful art. Um,

Our friend Ed Brubaker has another edition of Friday has come out. His young detective story storybook that I think he is incredible that he's doing with Marcos Martin. Beautiful. Good. You've given me, you've turned me on to so many different things lately and I've really been using you as my comic book go to. So I'm, I'm every time that you start talking about this, I'm writing down stuff that I've. Oh yeah. Great. I'll say I'm really enjoying, um,

the chip Zdarsky book, Newbern that he's doing. Um, isn't that a terrific, I think that is a terrific book. It's really good. I mean, I love chip. Like chip is like chip was one of those people that I feel like I can't remember when I found him. Maybe it was like when it's Howard, the duck run or something like that. Like, or I don't know. And I was like, and now I go out of my way to make sure I like, like all my, like he's one of those guys that I always go out of my way to find. Oh yeah. Great, great stuff. Um,

Robert Kirkman and Chris Somney's book Firepower is coming to a close. Incredible story. I've really enjoyed this. And Somney's art is just like one issue after another, just masterpieces in phenomenal artists. And, and Robert is a fine writer. He's a fine. Yeah. He's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Bobby, Hollywood, Bobby Kirk's he's fine. Monica, the new Dan Clow's book. Wow. Incredible. Yeah.

And then lastly, I'll shout out, I'm reading, because I know Tom King, a fan of the show, we're a big fan of his. We read a ton of his stuff. I'm reading Gotham City year one, his year one about Gotham City, which is fantastic. Ooh, I gotta check that out. And I will say this. Yeah. We should let it be known that we are mad at Tom King for coming to one of our shows and not telling us. Oh yeah, thank you. You know what? I rescind this plug. Yeah. How dare you, Tom King? How dare you?

How dare you come to our show and not come and say hello? Come on now. How dare you? Come on now. Oh, by the way, I would like to shout this book out simply for the art of Phil Hester. I don't think it's written very well at all. Thank you. Thank you for saying it. Uh, you,

You know, the other thing, too, is I talked about this briefly on the Discord. I do have some bad news in the How Did This Get Made world, talking about our live shows. We have lost an episode. Okay. We talked very briefly about this over text. Yes. I am really mad. I'm genuinely angry because this show had what I thought was going to be a...

very real audience chant going forward, which is no retreat. And then the audience screams, no surrender. So spoiler alert, that's the episode we've lost. You will never hear. And here's the next thing. Geostorm, the next fuck the moon, the next, the next,

audience chant we lost it i mean by the way we still created the t-shirt which is a play on frazier uh like uh we did oh yeah the t-shirts are gonna still be up the t-shirt was made so for everyone who was there so you can have a t-shirt of a movie that we never do but i i do think like here's the thing and and i may have talked about this before but i'm gonna go and and bang this drum one more time just because it makes me so angry we all make mistakes

I never want to be too hard on anyone. I've made mistakes, whatever. I will say this. The person who messed up, not only messed up, lied.

Said that he'd done this before. Said he'd done it before. Never did it before. And then... You mean, that meaning recording the show. Recording the show. He's like, oh yeah, I know how to do that. Did not know. And the reason why we lost it was because he didn't do two. We always would have a backup. He didn't give us a backup. And that's, okay, that's one thing. He lied. And then, when confronted with it, not apologetic at all. Almost downright unapologetic.

like well big deal wow and that to me that is the only reason like normally i'd be like you know what mistakes happen but i'm like fuck this guy fuck this guy for uh you know just say i'm sorry just say i'm sorry i mean just like own own your fuck ups no yeah no nope we don't do that as jess says our producer just says throw him away throw the whole person away

Holy shit. What a bummer. Yeah. Are you doing a Christmas shopping by the way? I know this is like a little change of pace. Anything that, uh, you're thinking about if there's anything that I want to like specifically shout out, that's a good question. I wish I'd thought, I mean, yes, I am doing Christmas shopping, but,

And I am doing Christmas shopping inside of like board games and card games and some fun stuff. But I haven't gotten my hands on anything yet. Well, let me give you a card game that I think you might like. It's called Dutch Blitz. Oh, I've been playing Dutch Blitz for years. What? Oh, man. Yes.

Yeah. Dutch Blitz, such a fun game. Such a fun game. It's so fun. Okay, well, there you go. Dutch Blitz, a great stocking stuffer, if you will. Great. It's another one. Like Monopoly Deal, it's its own deck of cards. You play with a unique deck of cards, but that's all. You just need a deck of cards, and it's a super fast...

It's kind of like Spit or War or any of those kind of very fast-paced games that are over quick. And I will tell you, you play with my wife, June Diane Raphael, and it will make you never want to play card games again because she is so aggressive. She's so fast that it's like she is...

Like she's working on... I've never seen her move as quickly as when she plays these speed card games. It is... I literally... I have to like leave the room sometimes. I'm like, I'm done. I can't do it. It's too much. It gets me angry. It gets me angry. It gets you angry? Because she's so like...

It's it. She's so happy to beat everybody. She does over and over again. She loves the thing. I will say you're right because that the thing about Dutch Blitz is it's very fast moving and there's a lot of. Yes. As people are getting closer, you can tell when people are getting close to finishing and there is an energy that starts to happen that is chaotic.

I 100% agree. And when you're so close and someone just beats you by a second, you're like, oh, god damn it. Yeah, it really will get me. It gets me good. Oh, I'm glad. I love that game. Here, I'll shout out a comic that has...

that I've been meaning to talk about for a long time because of its recent movie adaptation, but have not been able to talk about it because of the strike, which is N.D. Stevenson's book, Nimona, which was adapted into an incredible Netflix animated movie that is fantastic. Nimona. The book is incredible, and the movie I thought was wonderful. Ooh.

Chloe Grace Moretz, Riz Ahmed are the voices, I think. And it's a great fantasy story. It's a great young people story. It's just a great story. It's beautiful. The book is one of my favorite books. And I think it's also a fantastic movie. You know, I will plug one thing that I'm in because I think it talks to something that...

Well, I'll just, I won't set it up too much. I did a documentary called A Disturbance in the Force, which is a documentary about the Star Wars holiday special, which we did hear on How Did This Get Made? Oh, yeah. And it gets into very exacting detail on literally how did it get made? It's made by Kyle Newman. Wow. Who is, you know, he's been around so much different great stuff, fanboys and other things. But

It's a really fun doc with all your favorites in it. You know, Weird Al and Pat and myself, a handful of people. But it's not just like, look at this thing. It sucks. It really is a, this is what happened. Like a deep dive into it. Oh, that's cool. I like that. And I had, I got to read some of the pages that George Lucas wrote as inspiration for his, the person who actually wrote this script. And it's,

It's so good. Oh, that's great. So yeah, you can kind of check it out. It's on streaming now. Very cool.

video on demand right oh i love that yeah that's a real fun one that's rad that's cool i will shout out a couple of things that i feel like i just think are fantastic and wish like some you know people that just to like bring attention to them right um i don't know how much were you much of a fan of the adult swim show uh metalocalypse oh yes i saw them live

Incredible. Same. I saw them live too. Love, love Metalocalypse. Love the show. Did you know that he put out a movie a couple of months ago that is so fantastic called Metalocalypse Army of the Doom Star? Uh, no. That, wow. Exactly. Okay. And it's so good and such a blast. New music, new story. It's fucking...

So good and funny and just absurd. It's Tommy Blotcha. Yeah. But this is Brendan Smalls. You know, this is a whole this is a feature movie. Great animated movie about, you know, a metal, a death metal band that controls the universe. It's kind of.

I love it. You can get it on Apple TV. You can get it all in all the different spots. I love Tommy. Tommy Blacha, one of the first people I ever was like a head writer on a show that I was working on and taught me how to hide in my office when angry people were around. I will always remember that. Oh, my God. How to hide. How to hide. So like when they couldn't yell at you.

Incredible. I will also shout out the most recent season of Starstruck came out on HBO, or on Max, rather. Oh, yeah. Rose Matafeo's incredible British rom-com series. Fantastic. I'll shout out... Did you watch Extraordinary? No. The British show in which everybody at puberty gets superpowers? No. And it's all about... Oh, it's great. It's a sitcom about a society or a world in which...

You get, everybody gets some sort of a power, you know, and it's about, of course, somebody who didn't get their power. Great. I love that. Oh, that's great. We taught, I shouted out this show before and season two just came out and I can't talk enough about it. Our beloved letter, Kenny, the spinoff show, Shore Z season two out on Hulu. Now Shore Z season two, one of the funniest seasons of television this year. Incredible.

Incredible. This is so much TV. I got to get on all this TV. By the way, if you've, this is a movie that I think a lot of people know about, but I do want to just talk about it because we didn't get a chance to plug it, but Bottoms is great. If you've not seen Bottoms, it's such a funny fucking movie. It's so unique. It's so different. I mean, speaking of Scott Pilgrim, it has like that kind of, it's a very fun, inventive, cool looking, great movie. I won't tell you any more about it than just enjoy it and enjoy

it's just put it on. You will love it. It's just, it's great. Yeah. From our friends, Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald over at the watch. I became obsessed with the British show, the gold.

which is a British crime show about a real, I did not know this case, but a real case in which in 1980, I can't remember, 80, mid 80s London, I think there's a bank robbery and the bank robbers accidentally rob a bank, not knowing they're just going to rob the vault of some millions of dollars, but instead find that there is $26 million worth in gold there.

that they didn't know about. So they steal this gold. But then what, so, and that happens in the first 15 minutes of the show. The rest of the show is all about that gold and how it makes its way in, out, like from their possession into, by through laundering and cleaning

and all of the machinations of the fences and all of the gangsters and the lawyers and all the people who touch this gold in order to get it into circulation before the police can find them. Oh,

Oh, wow. So it's all of these components, the police who are chasing them, Hugh Bonneville from Downton Abbey. And, you know, it's got great people in it. And then the gangsters who are it's it's fucking awesome. It's a great show. The gold. Oh, the gold. All right. I'm on this. This is like this is really this has been a good show.

I think this has been a good... Oh, you know the other one you'll like? The other one you'll like because you're on the road and it's short form? Yeah. Have you watched... Did you know that he's doing... Coogan is doing YouTube episodes... I don't know. Maybe it's not... I'm watching it on YouTube. Alan Partridge's Mid-Morning Matters. They're like five-minute Alan Partridge episodes that are so fucking funny. Oh, well, I was just going to plug his new book, which is about him...

taking over the lighthouse, which is based on what he does on the podcast. So basically like the premise of the book is it's so funny. His career is over. He's being canceled and he goes and buys this lighthouse out of spite. And he's trying to like build up the lighthouse and also get back his career. It's, it's, I mean, it like it,

The character continues. It's so funny. Wow. And I love it. His books make me laugh. Nomad is so funny. Oh, that's great. I didn't know he had a new book. Oh, that's cool. The new book is great. I mean, if you've not listened to the two seasons of the podcast from The Oast House, that's what it is. So I've been listening to The Oast House. Got it. And this talks about – it's like the right – Oh, that's great. I mean, it's so detailed because it's like, oh, I've been listening to him do it. Now this is a book about him doing it.

Buying the lighthouse. It's so good. It's so good. That's incredible. That's incredible. Yes. And obviously you got to listen to it on tape because it's so good. It's called Big Beacon. Big Beacon.

Big Beacon is in the book. Oh, okay. All right, great. I'll check it out. Yeah, it's so good. Oh my God, I love it so much. All right, Jason, this is great. I love getting to talk about these big corporations and what they give us and how thankful we are that they are here for us. They're great. Can I just shout out a few podcasts I've been on recently that I'd just love to throw some people towards? I was recently on Scam Goddess, had a great conversation with Lacey. I did an episode of the Doughboys recently. During October...

They were in costume as Heath Ledger, Joker, and Batman. Yes. Well, that's what I'm going to tell you. The whole episode is apparently available on YouTube, and it was fucking bananas. So go to YouTube, wherever the Doughboys are, and watch the episode. It's so fucking funny. Watch it.

for alone for Mitch in a Batman mask, trying to eat an orange. It's really next level stuff. And then also I was on Seth Morris, our friend Seth Morris and Aaron Whitehead's recent new show college town, which is just fantastic. Well, you know, I, I, um, I did this podcast, which I think you might like it's called die hard on a blank. Um,

And basically the idea is it's a movie discussion that basically is how to die hard effect this movie. Right. So like everything is like dire. So I did the, I did clear and present danger, the Tom Clancy movie, the Jack, the last Harrison Ford, Jack Ryan movie. And it's really fun. It's like, it's a super fun premise. And if you like these movies that we like, it's like, it just, I kind of looks at it through the eyes of, through the eyes of like how to die hard effect.

talk you know how it how it kind of yeah brought it in but it's it's also unique on its own way too it's not just about diehard great it's great oh nice oh that's cool all right so we are there um and uh we'll see you next time on last looks goodbye

So fun to talk to Jason. Sorry my audio quality fluctuated so much from there to here, but I recorded that when I was in Oklahoma City and I got stories to tell. Anyway, we gotta wait until July until I'll tell you that story. Anyway, people!

That was awesome. And if you submitted a brand new theme song for the show, if we haven't played it, don't worry. Jason and I still plan to listen to those songs too. We're just keeping it. It's alive. It's a fluid moment right now. Anyway, now that we've talked about munchies and the dog who saved Christmas, let's talk about next week's movie. We are going from A Christmas Robbery Scheme

to a Christmas influencer queen. That's right. Next week, we are watching the 2019 made-for-TV movie A Beauty and the Beast Christmas. You have to watch this film. It is great. Short breakdown of the plot. Social media star Ginger Holliday damages her face in a freak hair-dyeing accident and must restore her social media clout by pretending to get engaged to a bad boy influencer woman.

Bo Bradley. Yes, you heard everything I just said correctly. This movie has zero reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, so instead we will turn to Sad Dad on Letterboxd, I love Letterboxd, who says the best part of the whole thing was the commercial breaks. Take a listen to the trailer. Hi. Hi. I'm Ginger Holliday. She's the internet's trendiest Christmas princess. We are making homemade hair dye with peppermint and holly berries. But when an irritating accident occurs...

Her condition, it's going to take maybe eight weeks to heal. This bummed out beauty signs offline and her popularity plummets. Well, people still love me when they know how I look. Whoa, your face, what happened? Um, it's just an allergic reaction to some hair dye. It's not that bad.

You can stream A Beauty and the Beast Christmas for free on Hoopla or rent it on Apple TV, Amazon, YouTube, and Google Play. In addition to Hoopla, I encourage you to check out Canopy. It's another digital media service offered by your local public library that allows you to consume movies, TV, music, audiobooks, e-books, and comics for free. People, I recommend this movie. And just so you know, it is not the Disney classic Beauty and the Beast Christmas. This is a

This isn't a live action movie. Anyway, that is it for the show. Please remember to rate and review us. It helps. And if you listen on Apple Podcasts, make sure you are following us now. You can visit us on social media. Make sure that if you are in the UK, you are listening or watching or refreshing on Monday, December 11th for our big announcement. And a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds, our movie picking producer, Avril Halle, and our engineers, Casey Holford and Rich Garcia, as well as Jess Cisneros, who makes those amazing social media videos. We will see you next week for...

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